Was Fox News simply offering solid reporting on the inside baseball of the Fred Thompson campaign, or could there have been an element of payback for the candidate having blown off the Fox-sponsored debate last night in favor of appearing on NBC's "Tonight Show"?A Fox News article by chief political correspondent Carl Cameron [with AP input], Fred Thompson Campaign Makes Drastic Shift on Eve of Kickoff, paints a decidedly negative portrait of matters inside the Thompson campaign.
Most notable is this line:
Thompson appears to be losing his core of original supporters at a quickening pace.By "supporters" Fox is referring not to the broad electorate, but to campaign professionals who joined Thompson's effort early on. And it seems there has indeed been an unusually high level of turnover in staff ranks. According to the article, the latest to be let go is a former Fox News congressional correspondent, Jim Mills, personally recruited by Thompson and wife Jeri only a month ago.
The gist of the article is that Thompson's campaign strategy shifted significantly at the last moment before his entry into the race, resulting in his decision to forego the Fox debate in favor of the Leno-show announcement. Also, rather than pursuing a "new media strategy," Fox reports that the campaign decided to go with a more traditional "corporate" approach, and that this has riled a number of "Fred Heads."
I expect that as the Thompson campaign unfolds, the candidate will get "fair and balanced" treatment from Fox. But in the short run, there could be some ruffled Fox feathers for Fred to fix. Prediction: look for Fred to turn up for an extended interview, perhaps with D.C. managing editor Brit Hume, sometime soon.
—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.















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"Also, rather than pursuing
September 6, 2007 - 06:46 ET by Warner Todd HustonThis seems a missfire on Cameron's part. Fred is not doing the "normal" rollout here at all. He is heavy on TV and the internet and did not join the debates! He has not been doing your average "corporate approach" at all.
I'll also say that the debates last night are meaningless in the long run. In a week no one will even remember them, so Fred skipping them did him no lasting damage... in fact, no damage at all!
People, no one but us political wonkies are even paying attention to the races yet!!! Fred knows this and he is saving his cash until he needs it.
Lastly, to say he is in too late as many have foolishly done, is ignoring the fact that all the news -- AFTER the debate and even during it -- has ALL been about him announcing!
Anyone discounting Thompson at this point is a dunce. Heck, people, he is still to this day either second or first in every poll!
Fred is the man to beat right now, even the candidates at the debate knew it. Now, whether his actual campaign works to his advantage or not is beside the point. Right NOW he is the frontrunner without question.
People, no one but us
September 6, 2007 - 07:53 ET by motherbeltPeople, no one but us political wonkies are even paying attention to
the races yet!!! Fred knows this and he is saving his cash until he
needs it. -WTH
That is so true. And even some of us are not into this yet. I didn't watch the debate. Other than commenting on stuff here, just for the fun of discussion, I am not really into this race yet. Look at it this way: Hillary Clinton has already had 3 different strategies on this war since she announced. By next year, no one will remember.
I believe the 24/7 news thing has a lot to do with the way the election season keeps getting moved up, the way the stores start putting stuff out for the next holiday as soon as one is past (Halloween candy is in the supermarket already). They need stuff to talk about, so they start speculating about people (as with Obama) and that sort of forces everyone's hands. Clinton would never had declared so early if not for him. And the early debates give the 24 hour news cycle people and talking heads something to chew on.
I think Thompson was smart to stay out this long. It's less time that his every utterance is under scrutiny, and he has not had re-iterate and clarify every statement, nor explain why a couple of commas in today's position are different from yesterday's.
Fred's in
September 6, 2007 - 07:57 ET by VT Con ManRight on WTH, he was also the discussion point of the first ten minutes of the debate!
Historically this is the time when Presidential campaigns begin, and he has that feather in his cap as well. While the others are seen as jumping in early, to try to keep up with the Dems, who started their yacking a full year early. Hopefully they all "peaked" this Summer and will slowly slide out of favor as they droan on about socialism, I mean "progressivism".
Now its a race. I look forward to seeing which of these gentlemen deserve my vote.
Well said WTH
September 6, 2007 - 09:25 ET by BinxlyI have to agree with you as well, WTH. While I may not be voting for Thompson, I think the man is a good canidate to add to the mix. Oddly enough, not to repeat the tag line of last night, but I think McCain too *really* impressed me by planting his feet down. He's always took a stance on many things that weren't always popular, but they almost came off as suggestions or musings rather than something he was willing to put his name behind. Last night I saw the most confident McCain since 2000. The only thing I REALLY didn't like is that hes more malleable that I would like my President to be on illegal immigration. Aside from that, I think he's making steps in the right direction (no pun intedned :-P) I also hate to say it, but the guy I initially was backing when we began to hear about potential GOP canidates back in 06, Rudy, well he was awfully stuck on using his time as Mayor of New York to answer all most every question. Its not that that was the problem necessarily, but hes so much more than just that and its a shame he didn't focus on the other great things he's done. Aside from that, I thought how he answered that question of how his personal life may affect how others view him as a potential leader was a great response. He started by admitting that, yes, how someone works within their family structure *is* usually a good measuring stick of what kind of person they are, but that of all the great things hes accomplished, it would seem, that although his personal life isnt without problems, he doesn't let it define him.
All that aside I was proud of the man I'm backing and I think he did very well, especially in a debate where only one, possibly two, people were anything but completely at odds with him. I'm interested to see how Fred does though. So far, as you've said WTH, he's been very wise with keeping his funds until they are absolutely needed and approaching this in almost a candid way, it comes off, to me at least, as a guy I can relate to. He isn't here to woo us or buy our votes with stolen, swinddled money gathered by bail jumpers. Who knows, perhaps, by the primaries, I may find Thompson is the better match. I'm just waiting to hear what social stances he runs on in this race.
With all due respect.
September 6, 2007 - 09:29 ET by LCT688With all due respect for Senator McCain and all he has suffered through I think it’s going to be pretty hard for him to overcome the two fundamental flaws in his positions, namely his nearly fatal error in supporting the recent thinly veiled illegal immigrant amnesty bill, and that he seems to have jumped onto the global warming bandwagon. I just don’t see how those positions that are completely at odds with “mainstream” conservatives can be overcome, no matter how forthright he is on the conflict with the Islamic fascists.
One of Rudy's statement
September 6, 2007 - 09:49 ET by Senior ChiefOne of Rudy's statement that need to be re-emphasized was, "...you'll have three leading Democratic candidates, none of which have ever run a city, a state or a business."
Opined McCain a bit later, "I have led -- I once the commanding officer of the largest squadron in the United States Navy. I didn't manage it. I led it."
Current Republican front-runners are great leaders in their own rights, which the democracks can't compare to. Don't know of Thompson though...
So true Senior Chief.
September 6, 2007 - 10:38 ET by BinxlySo true Senior Chief. However, the media doesn't care, they care about what presidential canidate takes the best beach photo or which one is willing to slowdance with Melissa Ethridge to a KD Lang CD on the logo network. Experience is easily trumped by cheap, hollow promises. The worst part is, the people voting for the dems don't realize they are being sold down the river. Most of them are only endorsing issues for votes, not on principle. As they say tho, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. We can keep pointing out this fact, but its up to them to accept it.
Shame on FOX News.
September 6, 2007 - 08:18 ET by LCT688As much as I respect Fox News and what it has done for providing a meaningful alternative perspective to the MSM. It sounds to me however like they have become infected with the worst of the MSM diseases, a sanctimonious sense of self-importance. When Jay Leno asked Senator Thompson why he was on his show and not at the debate, he hit the nail squarely on the head and drove it home with one shot. Saying that he like Newt Gingrich’s idea of a debate with an extended discussion of the issues, more in line with the Lincoln-Douglas debates. He dismissed the current structure as designed to be more a benefit to those hosting the debate, not the candidates, full of 30 second sound bites that no one is going to remember.
You have a point there.
September 6, 2007 - 09:10 ET by Sergeant ROCKYou have a point there.
WTF FOX, your kidding
September 6, 2007 - 09:14 ET by Senior ChiefWTF FOX, your kidding right? As if those "fisrt-tier" candidates were relevant at all last night. Note that Paul was the "winner" according to the viewers. So, Thompson didn't miss a thing. As a conservative, I am looking for that true conservative candidate, which all of them came up short last night.
Thompson is/was not late in declaring his candidacy, he just didn't go with the bandwagon. But then again, my candidate is not YET on the race...
-Cheney/Rice in '08-
Ron Paul was considered the
September 6, 2007 - 10:35 ET by BinxlyRon Paul was considered the winner because, even from the origin of why he wants to leave Iraq, is because he is a strict follower of the constitution, and alot of people are sick of the polarization of politics and believe we've *lost the message.* I know most people here aren't fans of him, and I'm not trying to sway minds, but I think he won fairly and found it dissapointing that Hannity (whom I usually agree with and like) was not onlyso at odds with Ron post debate, but when it came in the 'at home poll' that Ron was winning by a huge margin, hannity dismissed it as 'redials.' Curious, I tried to vote a second time. Suprise suprise, you cannot vote twice, or so the message in response said. So, therefore, short of it being an error of my phone (but I doubt errors give the message 'your vote has been already accepted, dont forget to watch hannity and colmes!) that means Hannity was bitter and in a sense, lying. I mean I dont know 100% sure that he knew redials and revotes were not counted, but afterall, it *is* his show. I just hate it that both sides are quick to excuse and give BS reasons because neither side, especially the left, doesn't know how to take defeat with any sense of grace. That said, to avoid contraversy, I will say Conservatives are *usually* the party of honest, humble individuals, which is why it was so disheartening to hear Hannity make up such a knowingly bogus excuse.
I mean, we all have our opinions who won the debate, and, even as a fan of Paul, I think the debate was VERY close and I wouldn't say he won the debate even, but its clear that the viewers, with cell phones at least, felt Ron had won the debate. Personally I don't think they voted because he 'won' but rather because he brought up issues many Americans felt were not addressed. I mean liberals have been against the war for awhile now but the root cause is because they are simply a knee-jerk reaction to conservatives stance on an issue and they, as usual, refuse to *EVER* agree with a conservative, its considered sacrelige to them.
and forgive me, I spell usually very well, but I know I butchered that last word :-!
Oh, come on, Binxly, do you really believe that?
September 6, 2007 - 10:57 ET by RJPaul is "considered the winner" because a coterie of fans once again bombed the site after a debate? I suppose you think the polls that show him consistently at under 5% are rigged?
Paul is a sincere, but naive, isolationist who has absolutely no chance in this election. It's fine to be a fan, but at least try to remain rational about it Binxly.
No you are correct, there
September 6, 2007 - 11:14 ET by BinxlyNo you are correct, there is no error in the fact that he is shown as under 5%, but the man DOES have a large following. Just today he reached over 40,000 meetup groups across America. Not 40,000 members, but 40,000 actual, functioning groups. Again, while he may not win, he's making a point to some in America that agree with him and many of his stances. My point was that its sad that people automatically resort to the 'oh they are spamming.' as to why he wins certain polls. Again, I felt sad that people would employ such tactics so I tried to vote a second time, and it didnt work. I tried voting a second time for another canidate, again, I was met with a 'thank you but you have already voted' response.
I was sad to see Sean knowingly resort to such a weak (although valid since it has happened in some un monitored internet polls) that its just people dialing over and over. Plus, I highly doubt RP's supporters own 3+ active cell phones each :-P
I do appreciate your respect though of my support of him. I'm usually met with 'idiot.' or many other similar sentiments for simply putting my humble opinion out there. Like I said though, its still early, and I also like alot of what I hear from Fred, and if McCain can get his head out of his bum on this amnesty bill, he's looking promising too. Sad tho to see Rudy and Mitt fall short of their usual prowess in debate. Oh well, we all have off days afterall.
I'm curious, Binxly
September 6, 2007 - 11:42 ET by RJDoes it embarrass you, or otherwise bother you, that the Ron Paul coterie apparently includes a significant number of fans from the other extreme? For example, when I see WingNut praising him, I can only shake my head....
BTW, I didn't say Paul enthusiasts were spamming. They just bomb the sites, and that has nothing to do with who "won.".
aha gotcha, sorry, I
September 6, 2007 - 11:50 ET by Binxlyaha gotcha, sorry, I thought you meant bombing as in consistently calling in, my mistake.
As for your question, I mean I look at it this way, there's certain things even the most stark right wing of republicans believe that these loonies can agree on. They don't mention it because, again, as Lieberman showed, if you even SLIGHTLY agree with 'the enemy' you get thrown under the bus without a second thought. Yes, it does get annoying to see people who truely believe we should simply follow the constitution as the gospel of our nation's foundation an guidebook to governing, yet also see the crazy burn outs at the same time handing out 9-11 conspiracy fliers. Whats funny is that they must be so burnt out that they miss it when RP says although he is skeptical of government and their capacity to lie and cover it up, but that he doesn't for a single second believe that 9-11 was orchestrated by anyone but Islamic extremists. The only area he differs from most republicans on that level is the *why* factor.
Sure, they can be crazy, loonie, and downright wrong on many issues, but they got one thing right. The constitution IS the framework for how our forefathers saw the best way to govern a truely free society. If anything, i'm *glad* they are at the Ron Paul rallies, it means not only are they paying attention enough to see past the lib's BS, but they are also starting to come around to something they once long forgot, common sense. :-P
Ow, Binxly! That hurt!
September 6, 2007 - 11:55 ET by RJGive a guy warning when you're going to play mind-warp! Conspiracy theorists and common sense? Ow!
haha yea, I can only imagine
September 6, 2007 - 12:25 ET by Binxlyhaha yea, I can only imagine the mind warp that occurs in these loonies when they realize that their is no long contrived story that explains how Bush is completely at fault. Again, most conspiracy theorists do lack that important element known to most as common sense. I guess some people never grow up and continue to buy into fantasy even as adults. Oh well, if it keeps them entertained enough to 'forget' to vote for HRC, then I'm all for it! :)
I can totally respect your
September 6, 2007 - 17:33 ET by KhyrisI can totally respect your support for Ron Paul. His essay on privateering as a solution to OBL was rather ingenuitive while being well within bounds of the Constitution. I still think he's wrong about it being a "better" method, but I can definitely respect a man who isn't afraid to have new ideas and communicate them well. He's not for me as a president, but I guess unlike the Daily-KAOSians who enjoy slamming Hillary for not being nuts-enough, we don't feel it necessary to turn on our own for minor disagreements (unlike how the MSM wants to paint the Craig affair) and am more than happy to have him as a fellow conservative.
I don't recall them asking
September 6, 2007 - 09:48 ET by LilyPearlI don't recall them asking me. He hasn't lost my support. I also like Huckabee, but I like Fred too.
FOX appears to be losing
September 6, 2007 - 10:22 ET by mattmIf anyone is losing anything, it appears that FOX is losing its grip on the "fair and balanced" claim.
If I ran a news department anywhere, I would never use A.P. sources except to demonstrate their inanity.
FOX is forgetting
September 6, 2007 - 11:04 ET by LCT688FOX is forgetting it got where it is by giving the public a breath of fresh air by simply reporting the news without a lot of political spin. And when they did put forth opinion they clearly labeled it as such. Wise up you guys before you fall victim to your opinion of yourselves.
Maybe it is just me but I
September 6, 2007 - 10:44 ET by bigtimerMaybe it is just me but I have noticed quite awhile ago that Fox is not all that supportive of Thompson...seem to be more or less supportive of Giuliani IMO.
Just little things you notice over time...
...anyway...Thompson will be on Fox plenty...of that I am sure.
Campaign Carl is a laugh to me anyway...has been for years and years..I get a chuckle out of him, about like I do Fred Barnes.
As an aside I loved how Thompson has a commercial right before the debate started last night...
I roared with laughter...couldn't help it!
Debates
September 6, 2007 - 14:15 ET by pocomocoThe ‘debates’, as they are currently structured, are nothing more than beauty contest where nothing of any real substance comes out.
What is needed is a William F. Buckley style debate format. It concentrates on only one question (i.e. immigration) with each debater making an initial statement, which the other debaters can then question him/her on.
There’s no gaggle of reporters asking questions, just a moderator.
I would like to see FOX, CNN, rethink its format and make them into real debates.
I'm enough of a cynic to
September 6, 2007 - 19:57 ET by Chris NormanI'm enough of a cynic to know if the Republicans nominate a Mike Huckabee, fine man though he is, Hillary will be the next president, without too much of a problem. He would be a noble failure. I know this flies in the face of principle, but just how good will principle feel the morning we hear "President-Elect Hillary Clinton"?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Fred's Announcement
September 6, 2007 - 20:13 ET by BlondeCan be viewed here. About fifteen minutes.
Fred's own site.
Interesting days ahead. I can't wait until his "Principles" section has been totally fleshed out. So far, there's one..."Federalism". Which is probably the most important one. All else follows from this.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive