Matthews Doesn't Blink as Richardson Extols Virtues of Collectivism

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Granted, it came at the very end of the forum on cancer that Lance Armstrong organized today in Iowa. But if in response to your final question a presidential candidate recites an ode to collectivism, a denunciation of individualism, and throws in the mind-boggling claim that people don't want tax cuts, don't you somehow find a moment to follow up?

Not if you're Chris Matthews.

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Here's how it went down today on MSNBC at 12:55 P.M. EDT as Matthews interviewed Bill Richardson (D-N.M.):

CHRIS MATTHEWS: We have a president who was elected a couple times and he's able to focus national attention on the war on terror, effectively, he's kept our attention, he's shifted our focus to overseas, effectively. You can argue whether it's the right proportion, but he's done so. He's galvanized the country around his personality and away from issues that you talk about. He hasn't focused on cancer, he hasn't focused on health. He hasn't focused on tax equity or any of the issues Democrats raise. Why can't you win the battle of public attention?

When Richardson hesitated before venturing an answer, Matthews suggested "you blame the media, fine."

RICHARDSON: No, no, no . . . I go to all the little living rooms in New Hampshire and Iowa. And you know what people say to me? They say they want somebody to inspire them. They want somebody that'll say: "hey, collectively we need to do things together as a country, instead of this individualism. You know the president has these wars that don't go through the budget, the tax cuts for people that don't want 'em. The American people want somebody that'll say to them, collectively we need to win these battles for universal health care, for eradicating cancer, for ending this war, for protecting pensions, for protecting the American people. The jobs that today are going overseas, the enormous strain on the American people, the middle class, simply to send their kids to college and deal with wages that haven't kept up with inflation. And so, I think there's a sense out there that if I'm elected president and I say we are going to spend this amount on cancer, and I'm gonna lead, and you have to do your part with healthier lifestyles, I think the American people will respond.

Now again, Matthews was short on time. But here was a candidate for president of the United States of America who had just offered an astonishing pitch for collectivism over individualism and made the breathtaking claim that Americans don't want tax cuts. And all Matthews did was offer a "thank you" and shake Richardson's hand.

In any case, remember Richardson's paean to collectivism if he comes under consideration for Veep and the MSM starts painting him as a "moderate" and a "centrist."

—Mark Finkelstein is a NewsBusters contributing editor and host of Right Angle. Contact him at mark@gunhill.net.


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Richardson/Democrats in a nutshell

Richardson's comments summed up:

I briefly visited those itsy, bitsy living rooms in New Hampshire and Iowa and after I brushed the dog hairs off me and kicked the wine coolers out from under my feet, I was able to sit on their bean bags and talk with the real Americans.

These people don't pay taxes so they don't want a tax cut. These informed Weekly Reader subscribers agree that only communism will solve America's problems. I, and my party, agree.

Any questions, Chrissy?

Richardson's favorite word

Richardson's favorite word seems to be "collectively".

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

...a "centrist." OK then.

...a "centrist."

OK then.

Only Liberaland is being between Marx and Lenin considered "Centrist".

The footer under Richardson

The footer under Richardson has it right...he'd be a presidential cancer.

Jedi

I was thinking that the caption should be 'These aren't the droids you're looking for... you may go about your business..'

In the history of his

In the history of his hysterically misnamed (and unwatched) "Hardball", can Matthews provide a single example where he has ever challenged a single quest spouting the leftist party line?

It never dawned on Matthews

Or Richarson, for that matter, that what the people mean by:

collectively we need to win these battles

might be that they want less partisanship and more work out of Washington?

Could someone please show me links to where it was ever easy for the middle class to send their kids to college?  I don't seem to be able to find anything.  The middle class has always struggled to do it, but did it without Washington.

On a related note, I was

On a related note, I was watching Lance Armstrong on MTP this past Sunday, and made a statement that reaffirmed my feelings for celebrities pushing agendas.  In reply to a question about him being the Cancer Czar, and waving a wand and making something happen, he said "So you have to start at prevention.  So let’s just make sure that nobody gets cancer.  So we have to control the things that give people cancer.  So if that’s the environment, if that’s tobacco, if that’s the sun, if—all these things, let’s not, let’s not let anybody get the disease."

So... we're somehow going to be able to control the sun???  This guy needs to keep doing what he does best - ride a bike and only open your yap to breathe.

The time he spent with

The time he spent with Sheryl Crow has had a negative effect on the man ...

}}---> Also related

And bicycling has been linked to head injuries.

~LYDSEXICS UNTIE!~

Ugh!

Come on, for Pete Sake!! Just say it already!

We're promising a switch from this country's over 200 year Representative Republic democracy and capitalism to Communism ...

Not yet!

Wait until he/she is worn in - then, make the declaration.

The American people want

The American people want somebody that'll say to them, collectively we need to win these battles for universal health care, for eradicating cancer, for ending this war, for protecting pensions, for protecting the American people. The jobs that today are going overseas, the enormous strain on the American people, the middle class, simply to send their kids to college and deal with wages that haven't kept up with inflation.

I'm for mom and apple pie, talk about a montage of action points.  So what's your plan there Mr. Dem, collectivize society and do away with individual initiative???  What's really rediculus when you look at his list is the Dems are at the core root of the problem facing each talking point.

Universal Health Care - Dem stealth phrase for Socialized Medicine that will lower the quality of care for seniors and essentially cut off new drug development like in other Socialized countries. Tell us, if Socialized medicine is so good why are Canadians coming here for medical treatment, like that mom with multiple births?

Cancer research has been limited by the diversion of funds for AGW research ($50 billion), pork barrel spending and other vote buying scams created by Dems.  Not to mention state funding of the dead end line of embryonic stem cell research, which could have gone to adult stem and cord stem cells producing even more additional therapies than the no results of their pet agenda.

Ending the war, by their opposition and demands for early withdrawal they have actually prolonged the conflict in Iraq and caused the deaths of thousands of Iraqis by egging on the terrorists in the hope the Dems will be successful in forcing a pull out.  Now the dolts are criticizing Maliki as ineffective when they themselves equally to blame.

Protecting Pensions, by their incessant demands to tax every form monetary transaction and increase taxation rates, they endanger the 401k plan investments of millions of Americans.  American Retirees are a large source of investment dollars in the economy.  Attacking the oil companies with feel good legislation is actually attacking the investors in those companies, namely the retirees and many institutional Pension plans like Calpers, etc.  If the economy does poorly, the retirees do poorly.

Protecting Americans, yea right, that's why you Dems supported the NYT in outting secret government operations against terrorists? You dolts were against the NSA wire taps of foreigners and people who call known terrorist associated phone #s?   Boy, with friends like you who needs enemies.

Inflation, jobs going overseas, college educations.  Again you libs just can't help yourselves making assertions that somehow the Repubs or W are at the core of some emotional feeling of distress, sounds like BDS, take two Xanax and call me in the morning.  Blaming everyone else but yourselves for life's problems is the classic sign of a drug abuser. 

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Candians have multiple

Candians have multiple births? Lord love a duck! How does that work? I have three children, but if I'd known my wife could have muliple births I would have come screaming across the border. That's right, Canadians are fleeing their country by the millions..oh wait, there's only 30 million of us. The country must be empty by now.

You know very well what I'm

You know very well what I'm talking about, the Quadruplets:  http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7008222437 Then they go back to Canada, thanks for demonstrating obtuseness, play again another time.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

Actually I didn't. I admit

Actually I didn't. I admit my error. It's just that when people attack Canada's health care system, they tend to 'cherry pick' the worst stories and ignore the overall benefit to the average guy like me.

You mean just like when

You mean just like when they cherry pick the US health care system?  I think we can both agree, no one can claim 100% perfection.  However, having said that, I acknowledge our system needs some tweaking like the reigning in on the frivolous lawsuits or the debunking this idea that health insurance is meant to pay 100% of your medical bills.  You are welcome to your system and I want to keep my system.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

dscott, i admit that neither

dscott, i admit that neither system is perfect. However I do object to the notion that Canadians are streaming across the border to escape an inferior health care system. After all we are only a country of 30 million. That's not even the population of California right? 

The inferiority is in the

The inferiority is in the time needed for expensive proceedures.  And its not cherry picking becuase there are many ripe examples.  Basically the system is underfunded and overloaded.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Dan, you don't live here do

Dan, you don't live here do you?

1. I have lived in Canada all my life and have NEVER had problem with health care. I raised three children here. In fact, in a story I told here once before, my father got a heart bypass on the day before Christmas.

2. Do you mean to tell me there are no horror stories from the medically uninsured in the US? Not a single one!  

 

No I dont live in Canada

No I dont live in Canada and dont plan to.  How long did your father wait for that bypass?  How long does it take for scheduling an MRI and under what conditions and where are they located?  What about cancers and drugs to fight it?

Its not the uninsured because they can always, as anyone can, go to a hospital and get care.  The insured just pay for it.  The point I was making is when government controls the health care they ration it and sometimes you need to wait and wait a long time.

After a while the politicians have cut the system to the bone and the taxpayers who actually pay for teh system are paying more and more for less and less just like France.  This is just normal government and is common to all goverment systems, even dictators.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Dan, I already told this

Dan, I already told this story so I will try to be brief. We took my father to Sunnybrook hospistal on Dec 22. He was complaing of chest pains. After examination, the doctor told us he would not be home for Christmas..

My youngest daughter needed an MRI..she had one of those irregular heartbeat things..whatever it's called. It didn't take long...

Maybe it's just cause I live in Toronto? 

Long? Long is a subjective

Long? Long is a subjective word.  I banged my head in Disneyworld and they took me to the hospital and did an MRI right there and then.  Being as it was the emergency room I was in there from 12AM to 6 AM.  It cost me 50 dollars total visit.  My wife has done a few MRI's the next day, the day after the Doc told her to get one.  Those were a bit more.

The point is they were "not long".  Under a socialized medicine there will be a raioning of medical care and a drop in the level of service.  Not now but eventually all government progarms are rationed due to the nature of government and how it works.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Mandrake--let me ask you

Mandrake--let me ask you something.  Why should someone else be forced to pay for your health insurance?  Since food is far more of a necessity than health insurance, should the government be responsible to buy all your groceries also?  I would seriously like to read a logical response to both of those questions.

The fact of the matter is that ALL government run health care systems are in the process of imploding regardless of whether it's in Canada, England, Germany etc. 

Here's just one article that offers the reality of government run health insurance: http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_canadian_healthcare.html

However, thinking people don't need to read articles to know that anything the government does, it does poorly at a vastly inflated cost.  This includes government run schools, highway construction/maintenance etc.

It never ceases to amaze me when people look for the government to 'give' them something when they should be working to provide it for themselves.  What's your excuse Mandrake? 

Who said anyone paid for my

Who said anyone paid for my health insurance? I was a professional engineer my whole career and payed a LOT of taxes into a system I believe in. So please don't try to tell me I haven't provided for myself!

mandrake

I've watched you go round and round here.

I think you do a great job of defending the Canadian Health Care system.  I'd suggest to my fellow NB's that we listen to you, rather than to the media on the topic.  You, after all, have the actual experience with it.

Not that I'd want it for myself, mind you, but I respect you for not only defending your government's system, but doing it nicely and without getting crazed.

Regards.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Thanks Blonde, good to hear

Thanks Blonde, good to hear a friendly voice. Sometimes this site can almost drive me crazy though :)

I'd bet, Mandrake :)

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Just as I expected--you

Just as I expected--you won't answer the questions.

No you didn't provide for yourself.  If you provided for yourself you wouldn't believe in a system that taxes its citizens exorbitantly so the government can provide subpar health insurance/health care.  Rather, a man who believes in providing for himself and his family would look to purchase his own health insurance.

The great thing about it is that socialist models for health insurance/health care--Canada, France, Germany, England are in the process of collapsing.  There aren't enough children being born in these countries to support government entitlements.  So the leeches who've been sucking off the system for years are going to be forced into market driven health care systems whether they like it or not. 

 

What on earth are you going

What on earth are you going on about? Without going into my files I would estimate that I have paid around 1/2 million in taxes in my lifetime...so PLEASE tell me how I didn't provide for my families health care.

The simple fact is you have

The simple fact is you have nocontrol over the money you paid the government to provide health care for you.  You may have paid 1/2 million dollars into the system but the system can and has changed and will again.  The only guarentee in life is what you provide for yourself.  So when your benefits are cut or you become too old for the state to justify the expense of the treatment remember this.

One thing you can rely on by relying on someone else, they will let you down.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Reminds me of a humorous

Reminds me of a humorous quip my wife said, "We best keep our wits between us when we get old, because if we don't, one kid will drop us off on a hiking trail and drive away and the other one will abscent mindly leave us in our wheelchairs some place and forget about us."

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

This is the new Dem

This is the new Dem arrogance: espousing Marxism publicly. Instead of waiting after the election to reveal their socialist agenda, they are telling us beforehand.

Yes, and the bigger problem

Yes, and the bigger problem is that a percentage of the voting public is either too dumb or ignorant to recognize it beforehand. 

My political debates with my union-fed/democrat relatives mostly consist of trying to get through their thick skulls what their political party has morphed into.  I have to laugh when I ask them how they feel about the USSR, Cuba, Red China, and hear them strongly condemn such governments ... Then I try to point out how the democrat party strives to make this country into a reflection of those ... They just don't believe it ... even when I point out all these wonderful programs the dems promise involve controlling everything in their lives, from cradle to grave, via their pay checks and loss of freedoms.  Right down to the dems drilling into these loyal followers' heads "The democrats are for the working people" ... See: Bolshevik

"Rugged

"Rugged Collectivism"

Somehow it just doesn't have the same ring... 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

"Rugged Collectivism"

 

Isn't that what the re-education camps were in Vietnam after we left?

Yeah, where they

Yeah, where they beat politically correct thinking into 'em. The beatings, the only thing that some of these training classes at work lack... 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Richardson - the Borg Queen

It's all about the collective.

Remember, with these dems...."resistance is futile".  Damn that rugged individualism, anyway.

Just waiting for the mandatory bionics to be implanted on Richardson so he truly looks like the Borg Queen.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Richardson. Borg Queen.

Richardson. Borg Queen. Implants.

Yikes, you paint an ugly picture, Blonde. :)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris / Bass

Okay you two.....Richardson is the perfect Borg queen (well, okay, maybe the perfect Borg Princess...I think Hillary is the Queen of the Collective, actually).  I didn't make him that way....he did it to himself....the man's own words did him in. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde, any way you go

Blonde, any way you go about it, Richardson would have to be an un wed mother to be. Queen or Princess.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Ewwwww, Blonde. Please, not

Ewwwww, Blonde. Please, not the queen.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

And here I thought....

.....that Richardson was the most sane of a mostly insane group of candidates.

Oh well.

Here, in New Mexico, the

Here, in New Mexico, the state is Richardson's little fiefdom, where, what he wants, he generally gets, and what the liberal legislature passes, he generally signs. I don't know just how well he'd do in a the more uncontrollable world of Washington... 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Matthews worked for Commie Carter, so what's new?

Media let hard-core Democratic partisans pretend to be journalists. I wonder how many people know that Matthews worked for Jimmy "Commie" Carter? So what do you expect?!

I would like to know

I would like to know exactly what American people told him this stuff. This is right out of la la land if you ask me. Who in their right mind dosent want a tax cut? Besides Kerry or Edwards. But they can send in their checks. They dont have to keep it.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Add "in living rooms" to

Add "in living rooms" to the empty cliched phrases politicians use, like "As I talk to people across the country..." and (insert favorite here)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris

Kiss their babies?

Pet their dogs?

Make up things they say to me? 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde, I was thinking of

Blonde, I was thinking of terms like "working people", used to describe union members (irony) and "working with my colleagues across the aisle" and - oh, well, you know the drill...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Irony Alert

"working people" = "union members".

They work the least of anyone I've ever seen for their bloated paychecks.

I'm a working person.  Aren't we all (well, except for Trust Fund Teddy & John F'ing)?

The euphemisms of democratic politics are just getting to be totally beyond stupid. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

When I hear a politician

When I hear a politician of either party (usually an tired old senator) start spouting off these hackneyed phrases and terms, I shut them off.  It's just so much nothing...

 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris

Yeah, well, except for our lovely HRC....calling for the replacement of Maliki.

I cannot believe she hasn't been roundly condemned for such a naive (can anyone say Obama?) and idiotic statement.

Does she think she's the boss of Iraq (to quote Katie's kid)?  Apparently the bimbo thinks she's the boss of the world.  Dangerous.  Truly dangerous.

These senators have such an overblown sense of self-importance...I wish someone would stick a pin in them and make them actually work for a living.

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

HRC (or Her Royal Clintoness)

HRC (or Her Royal Clintoness) is not "boss of the world" - at least - gulp - not yet - gulp, again. By the way - she'd make an excellent Queen of Hearts, like in Alice in Wonderland or the Manchurian Candidate. I love how these Senate would-be Little Napoleons spout off how they "would do this" and how they "would do that". Yeah, if only the President could snap his fingers and make it all happen - oh yeah, but with congressional oversight...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris

I am waiting until HRC, and her royal pronouncements, are ground into dust.  She is a disgusting panderer. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Blonde, I'm afraid

Blonde, I'm afraid everyone's too afraid of Her Royal Competency - to the extent that not many will criticize and expose her pronouncements, maybe until she's in office. Then, we'll be forced to find out just how competent she is...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

No way, Chris

Eventually she'll have to show up to debate on an unfriendly stage.

At which point, I'm hoping for the meltdown.  She's only the smartest woman in the room as long as she controls the room.  And if she really wants to the nomination, she's going to have to step out.

It ought to be great. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

If she plays the "helpless

If she plays the "helpless little woman" card upon criticism, that will be the end. And if the Republican candidate treats her as such, then they will get what they deserve - not that we will...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Move over, Kucinich! Make

Move over, Kucinich! Make way Gravel! There's always room for one more idiot douchebag moonbat presidential candidate in that big freak-show pop-tent known as the Democrat(ic) party...

 

Roger,In the Democratic

Roger,

In the Democratic presidential freak show, they're all vying for Head Freak - apparently, it's an honor...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Thanks for bringing me back

Thanks for bringing me back to earth, Chris.

I keep forgetting that being a liberal means standing on your head and telling the world it's upside down.

Richardson and Matthews,

Richardson and Matthews, the weakest of straw men show their true colors.

So, is Richardson a centrist?  Of course he is.  What the Bolsheviks - er, the Dimmhicrats - advocate is a massive, collectivist society that is centrally governed, an abolition of private policy and most of the basic resources and services owned and dispersed by the state.

A moderate?  Yes.  Moderately dimwitted with a Messiah complex to boot.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

By it's very

By it's very nature, Democratic policy is socialist/collectivist - it's just varies by degree from one candidate to the other. Their desire to control society and the individual from the top, down, by pushing buttons and pulling levers doesn't sound much different than communists - it just lacks "at the point of a gun" - and I can imagine situations where that has happened and may again (imminent domain, anyone?)... 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris -

Was looking for a link to a picture of this, for effect to your " ... doesn't sound much different than communists - it just lacks "at the point of a gun" , but found this instead :

A World Socialist Website's Version of the "Rescue of Elian Gonzalez" ... http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/apr2000/raid-a25.shtml

Along with the famous gun-in-his-face picture, this solidly makes your point about who these people are.

Chilling, isn't it, when

Drill,

Well, at least you tried. Thanks.

Chilling, isn't it, when the guns that are supposed to protect our liberties, are used, instead, used to deprive us of them...it's just a matter of who's giving the orders... 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Elian Gonzalez (R)

That would explain the harsh treatment.

Richardson a socialist . .

Richardson a socialist . . . Who knew? 

Matthews a fellow traveler . . . obviously.