Don't look for Arianna Huffington to be sitting down to a chummy luncheon with Hillary Clinton anytime soon. Huffington has been no fan of Clinton for some time, considering her insufficiently, and inauthentically, anti-war. But on today's "Morning Joe," Huffington took her animus to another level, accusing Hillary of an ultimate Dem sin: "swiftboating" an opponent, namely Barack Obama.
HUFFINGTON POST FOUNDER ARIANNA HUFFINGTON: After the CNN debate, I think it was ridiculous the way she and her campaign attacked Obama for saying he would engage in diplomatic talks with dictators. That is sort of a classic example of swiftboating your opponent. Like the equivalent of what Republicans do anytime Democrats call for troop withdrawal and they are talking about "cutting and running" or "precipitous withdrawal" or any of the clever little phrases.
View video here.
Animosity does have its limits, though. Responding to a question from panelist Craig Crawford, Huffington stated that notwithstanding her distaste for Hillary, she would vote for her against Rudy Giuliani, snidely stammering "or any of the other candidates who don't believe in evolution." "Other" candidates who reject evolution? Rudy never has, but Arianna won't let a logical fallacy stand in the way of a swipe at those hated Republicans.
View video here.
It wasn't an entirely comfortable appearance for Arianna. Host Joe Scarborough confronted her with the op-ed appearing in yesterday's New York Times by Michael O'Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack, "A War We Just Might Win."
HUFFINGTON, disdainfully: This is really pathetic. This is just preparation for General Petraeus' visit to the Hill.SCARBOROUGH: You know Arianna, there have been pathetic defenses of this war from time to time. But these two gentlemen are from the Brookings [Institution], an organization that nobody has ever accused of being packed with neo-cons, and these two gentlemen have been harshly critical of the Bush administration from time to time throughout the war.
HUFFINGTON, sputtering: Yes, but this is one set of opinions, and needs to be put against the, um, sort of majority of opinion from experts on the ground.
How would Huffington seek to dismiss the conclusions of the New York Times' respected Baghdad bureau chief John Burns? He recently told Hugh Hewitt in an extended interview that "there's no doubt that those extra 30,000 American troops are making a difference."
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Huffington is now all of a
August 1, 2007 - 07:46 ET by Free ThinkerHuffington is now all of a sudden interested in the "majority of opinion from experts on the ground." That would be the military, Arianna. I can't wait to see if she still holds this opinion if Petreaus confirms the positive news of success in Iraq. Being invested in defeat as she is, I doubt she will.
Experts on the ground
August 1, 2007 - 08:04 ET by GalvanicI'm sure she was referrring to the reporters from the NY Times, TIME, the LA Times, and the BBC. Huffington would never acknowledge that military leaders in combat are experts on warfare.
The O'Hanlon-Pollack assessment has the Left worried that its intention to direct a drawdown beginning in the fall, regardless of the Petraeus report in September, could appear to be undermining progress on the ground, leaving their Presidential candidate stuck with a "Who Lost Iraq?" dilemma.
Not to worry, the
August 1, 2007 - 10:02 ET by dscottNot to worry, the Dems will conveniently spin the whole thing by saying it was them pressuring Bush that got him to take a new direction. "We made him do it, if it wasn't for us, Rumsfeld would still be Secretary of Defense." Don't worry they will take the credit even if they had nothing to do with it. In the end the Dems will say, see the Surge worked and so we can pull out of Iraq now. (Which appeases the ultra left whom they lied to in the first place.) We must pressure Bush with time tables so he won't dilly dally, because we have important items on our domestic agenda that should come first in any event. Nothing like a bunch of half truths to support the desired reality. You need to read 1984 again, get with the plan!
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane" Marcus Aurelius Antoninus
Well, she certainly showed
August 1, 2007 - 07:47 ET by Ruths husband BenWell, she certainly showed her mental agility here. Using an opponents own words against him constitutes "swiftboating". I think Obamalama knew when he was getting in this race that it would be tough and every single word he spoke would be scrutinized and parsed by his opponents. Well, if he didn't, he needs better advisers. Not a big Hitlery fan at all, but Obama has no complaint if she hits a slow hanging curve over the left field bleachers.
As far as the "good news from the front" stuff. The lying libs have already announced their game plan. If a report says things are going bad, well, that is the truth. If it says things are going good, well, that is a lie pushed forward by the Cheney and the black helicopter gang.
Truth is a moving target
August 1, 2007 - 08:26 ET by Tom PaineAs far as the "good news from the front" stuff. The lying libs have already announced their game plan. If a report says things are going bad, well, that is the truth. If it says things are going good, well, that is a lie pushed forward by the Cheney and the black helicopter gang.
Kind of like those crooked voting machines that were used in 2000, 2002 and 2004 that were magically fixed in time for the 2006 elections...
Definition
August 1, 2007 - 08:00 ET by Tom PaineSwiftboating – (verb)
(1) Using a person’s actual words or actions as evidence of their inconsistent or hypocritical behavior.
(2) Positive trait when it is employed against a conservative
(3) Negative trait when it is employed against a liberal. (See- Politics of Personal Destruction)
Tom Paine, Spot on. I
August 1, 2007 - 08:27 ET by USA4freedomTom Paine,
Spot on. I sat
down to write the very same thing. So by :Swiftboating you are telling the
truth??
Unbelievable, So now If someone Swiftboat’s you it’s a lie..
God I so hate the MSM.
The sad part they will repeat the lie long enough that it
will become the truth. Sound very
Gobbles like..
Remember every one: NO MORE RINO’S
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc.
Ronald Reagan- 40th Anniversary of D-Day
But wait, Tom forgot one
August 1, 2007 - 08:31 ET by LeonBut wait,
Tom forgot one important feature of swiftboating:
4) Ignore any evidence contradictory to your claims (i.e. James Rassman)
That's called "revelant
August 1, 2007 - 10:01 ET by dscottThat's called "revelant facts." Any fact that doesn't support the line of argument is not revelant...
One must go to law school or experience a hearing in action to fully appreciate the truth of this point.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane" Marcus Aurelius
See, that was the problem
August 1, 2007 - 10:06 ET by BruzillaSee, that was the problem with the Swift Boat vets. Since Kerry refused to release his records, all they had to go on was anecdotal evidence, and for every guy you could find who said Kerry was a scumbag, he could find someone who said he was great. And in the end, since Kerry kept the truth locked up, who's to say who's lying?
That's why I based my view of the situation on the most telling aspect of Kerry's service. He was someone who did everything he could to avoid service, then when faced with being drafted into the Army he opts to join the Navy (a good idea during a ground war), and gets assigned to the best possible job for someone like him (an engineering officer on a destroyer). Then out of the blue, the Navy transfers him before his PRD to the worst job in the Navy at the time. The Navy hates to transfer anyone out of their original rotation date, and usually only does so when a skipper wants to get rid of someone. SO what did Kerry do to that was so bad to get him canned off the can?
LOL! "Take it away, Leon,
August 1, 2007 - 15:25 ET by Del DolemonteLOL! "Take it away, Leon, take it away!"-Bob Wills, 1936
Rassman is a problem for you guys, because after Jean-Claude Kerry "rescued" him in 1969, the two did not maintain a relationship for over 30 years.
The fact that Rassman would suddenly come crawling out of the woodwork, after some of the Swifties who were also present when the alleged incident took place said Kerry lied about it, is laughable.
Face it, until Kerry releases ALL of his military records, the Swifties are right. What's he got to hide?
Saving our language
August 1, 2007 - 08:49 ET by bulbasaurHillary was doing a good thing, she was speaking swiftboat to power!
Who the heck is this woman,
August 1, 2007 - 08:23 ET by Senior ChiefWho the heck is this woman, and what are her credentials to give an opinion (or critic) and be infront of a camera? Just wondering...Is she an American citizen? She could be coming from a foreign country, because of her accent. Russia maybe (Arianna). Why not criticize Putin and his foreign policy.
Hey, I have an accent and I was born outside of United States, could somebody invite me please to sit next to her and have a friendly political discussion infront of a camera...or I could invite her to the Chief's Mess and have a discussion with fellow Chiefs
R/Senior Chief
Is she an American
August 1, 2007 - 08:48 ET by Tom1969caArianna Stassinopoulos was born in Athens, Greece in July 1950. She married millionaire Michael Huffington in 1986, divorcing him in 1997 (from whence she gained most of her wealth, as well as the English-sounding last name.) Source: Wikipedia
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"We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it."-- Marge Simpson
But you missed the best
August 1, 2007 - 10:15 ET by stratmanBut you missed the best part of Arianna's "love" story with Mr. Huffington. From your Wikipedia link:
And let's not forget her earlier love connection:
So, in chronological order, Arianna leaves Greece, goes to England, beds down with a man 22 years her senior and then leaves him when he won't marry her. Smart man. Unfortunately, she then comes to the US. Thanks a lot Bernard.
Arianna gets her meathooks into Huffington despite his predilection for men. Obviously the money and entry into upper social circles and rubbing shoulders with the power brokers was just too strong a pull for our poor Arianna to resist. So she got jiggy with it. When Huffington didn't win against Feinstein (and being gay and losing to her is amazing in and of itself) our poor Arianna got disillusioned with the whole bisexual republican golddigger thang and returned to her Greek socialism roots, shed the chains of the demon conservatives and embraced the Left with vim and vigor (more like piss and vinegar). Afterall, there was a lot of money to be made and attention to be whored in bashing the Right. Besides, it feels so good to project the bitterness of one's failed marriage onto a whole class of people. Isn't that what any good socialist would do?
Even without knowing any of her history, all I needed to know about Arianna is that she is the darling of Bill Maher. Nuff said.
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
Good grief! She difinitely
August 1, 2007 - 11:27 ET by Senior ChiefGood grief! She difinitely know what "swiftboated" means, for she herself applied it to her men, the way she uses the word anyway.
And forget about inviting her to the Chief's Mess. None of us has gold to dig. We're just poor, old, salty but patriotic enlisted Sailors that probably she despise.
If only the English
August 1, 2007 - 15:24 ET by stratmanIf only the English gentleman hadn't wised up to her chameleon ways, we would have been spared Arianna's contenance in America.
I'd chip in on a slow boat back to Greece for her. Anyone else?
Killing them with kindness isn't working. Time to get scrappy with the Donkeys.
of course...
August 1, 2007 - 17:06 ET by UndercoverConservativelet us not forget where the Getty's fortune comes from-Big Oil. No talk of Getty's Oil Buddies like we're supposed to believe Bush controls OPEC...:P
Like Zsa Zsa Gabor, Arianna
August 1, 2007 - 08:53 ET by motherbeltLike Zsa Zsa Gabor, Arianna Huffington is famous for being famous. In other words, a celebrity who got to be well known, by whatever means it was. Now, because everyone knows her name, she considers herself an expert on any number of subjects.
Just my opinion.
Zsa Zsa Connection
August 1, 2007 - 09:05 ET by Tom PaineLike Zsa Zsa Gabor, Arianna Huffington is famous for being famous.
Did you notice that we have never seen the two of them together. Coincidence? I think not.
Actually, Arianna reminds me
August 1, 2007 - 15:27 ET by Del DolemonteActually, Arianna reminds me more of Zsa Zsa's sister:
"New York is vhere I'd rather stay,
I get ALLERGIC smelling hay!
I just adore a penthouse view,
Dahling I love you but give me Park Avenue"
Arianna Huffington would
August 1, 2007 - 08:49 ET by motherbeltArianna Huffington would only believe the "majority of opinions from experts on the ground" if she agrees with them.
And "swiftboating"????? Oh, puhleeze! The Swift Boat veterans said that John Kerry was dishonest about his service in Viet Nam and his medals. Hillary Clinton said Barack Obama's plan to meet with enemy leaders was naive and irresponsible. Please explain how the two are similar.
This is going to be the liberals' new whine (in old skins LOL)...forget "how dare you question my patriotism!" Now any criticism will be met with "They are swiftboating me!!"
Thanks for defining the term, Arriana
August 1, 2007 - 09:06 ET by c5thenI now know that to "Swiftboat" someone means to tell the truth about them without using the feel-good terms that they would like.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic
NOT that she ever had any to begin with ...
August 1, 2007 - 09:53 ET by drillanwrbut Arianna Huffington lost all attention span from me when in the California governor's race debate she accused Arnold Schwarzenegger of condoning the abuse of women because of how he had beat up on and crammed the face of the "female" character in his (then) last movie into a toilet ... The movie? Terminator 3 ... The "female" character? The ultimate killing machine Terminator from the future that had been designed to look like a woman as she went about killing anyone of any gender in her path on her way to killing the human male and female she was targeting so that the humans of the world could ultimately be terminated ... Preaching to the choir here, but as in T-2, Arnold's Terminator character in T-3 had been sent to save the two people she was targeting ... and in turn save humanity ... But that's beside the point. He crammed her face into a toilet.
And don't get me started on Huffy-Puffy's beyond lame explanation to Sean Hannity her reasons for taking private jets all over the country and the world as she preaches how everyone else should cut back to Neanderthal life-styles in order to save the planet from GW.
thanks for reminding
August 1, 2007 - 17:07 ET by UndercoverConservativethanks for reminding everyone about this little "tidbit". The insanity of the CA governor's race was something that had to be witnessed to be believed.
New
August 1, 2007 - 10:10 ET by mytwocentsI think we should start using a new term when someone has lost an election. He/she has been "Kerried Out".
Its so simple....Arianna
August 1, 2007 - 12:03 ET by charlietexasIts so simple....Arianna just hates Bush. PERIOD.
These simple
people just hate Bush. Its been that way since 2002 when the up comming
voting season was upon us. If they don't get the White House back
and keep the other two houses it will only get worse. They are
desperate to get back all they're power.
Msss Huffington is just a typical liberal hater. Hopefully the American people will wake up and see this.
Despite Arianna's
August 1, 2007 - 12:43 ET by fitzfongDespite Arianna's suggestions to the contrary, Republicans do believe in evolution. In California, we've seen it in action...
-Gold-digging Eurotrash socialite comes to America
-Marries rich moderate Republican who gets in over his head running for Senate
-Eurotrash wife becomes media darling (Gabor catchphrase unintended) after charming them with her accent
-Turns husband gay, takes most of his money
-Starts hanging out with Al Franken becoming the conservative counterpoint to the socialist douche
-Has revelation: being a socialite in West LA circles is more rewarding if you're liberal. Full evolution is complete.
As her appearance on MSNBC illustrates, Arianna is not intelligent and she's about as deep as a bathroom sink. But she is clever...after all she knows how to seize other people's money and use it to finance her own industry of ignorance.
Anyone ever notice that when
August 1, 2007 - 12:19 ET by zfAnyone ever notice that when Dems stop attacking each other that's when they stop making sense? <g>
I Hate These Subject Lines
August 1, 2007 - 13:48 ET by entThat's easy -- Kerry was lying. Did you read Unfit For Command and follow the controversy that ensued? It wasn't one-for-one; it was more like twenty-for-one. Almost everyone who had first-hand experience with Kerry in Viet Nam said the same thing -- he was a lily-livered opportunist who would parlay minor injuries into purple hearts. Some of his medals appeared to be outright fabrications.
If his accusers are wrong, he could clear the whole thing up by releasing his military records. What is he afraid of?
In any war, most soldiers receive injuries of one kind or another but few aggressively pursue purple hearts and other awards the way that Kerry did. This is out of respect for those who came before, who really deserved them, and out of a simple sense of humility, something which Kerry utterly lacks.
They say that Kerry had his sights set on the presidency all the way back to his college days, and from everything that I've seen and read, I have no doubt that it's true.
"In any war, most soldiers
August 1, 2007 - 14:02 ET by misterbill"In any war, most soldiers receive injuries of one kind or another but few aggressively pursue purple hearts and other awards the way that Kerry did. This is out of respect for those who came before, who really deserved them, and out of a simple sense of humility, something which Kerry utterly lacks."
His behavior, IMHO, is typical of one, who early on in life, decides he wants a political career. For many, with this wish, they must, at all costs, avoid integrity, honesty and truth.
It is a shame that the 25-33% of honest politicians must serve with the rest of them. I am from Georgia. We have 4 exemplary Congressmen and two very good Senators. I believe my Senators to be honest, but they temporarily lost sight of the good of America when they joined ranks with the evil Ted Kennedy and cohorts. I am happy to report they are back on track.
Time will show if they stand up to the NAU/SPP conspiracy.
Yeah, somebody said
August 1, 2007 - 14:02 ET by drillanwrYeah, somebody said Swiftboat, and Arianna thought they meant some celebrity's yacht heading for the French Riviera ... "As long as you're heading in that direction, mind if I ride along, dahh-link?"
Oh how I wished this woman,
August 1, 2007 - 17:16 ET by bigtimerOh how I wished this woman, this opportunist would just go away...
Far far away...like say back to where she was born and expound her so-called knowledgeable leftist spewing there.
I am so tired of her...her nasal voice and her accent drives me nuts, let alone the words that come out of her yap.
And that unblinking,
August 1, 2007 - 17:30 ET by drillanwrAnd that unblinking, self-important, nose-in-the-air, condescending drone when she speaks ...
drill... ...condescending
August 1, 2007 - 17:38 ET by bigtimerdrill...
...condescending drone
Perfect description!