Amidst all the MSM analysis of the dust-up between Hillary and Obama over his statement at the CNN/YouTube debate that he would commit to meet with the world's worst dictators in his first year in office, I haven't noticed anyone observing the obvious: that with her statement on the subject, Hillary has made it very problematic for herself to name Obama as her VP running-mate. To see why this is true, consider the kind of ad that the Republican candidate would inevitably run if Hillary were to tap Obama for the Veep spot . . .
As images of terrorism play across the screen, a dead-serious voiceover intones: "Terrorism. It could threaten the very survival of our country. Dealing with the dictators who threaten our nation might be the most important matter confronting our next president. Hillary Clinton says Barack Obama is "naive and irresponsible" when it comes to that. What does it say about Hillary Clinton that she wants him to be a heartbeat away from the presidency?"
For that matter, Hillary's criticism so fundamentally discounts Obama's credentials to serve as president or VP that you almost have to think that her camp has concluded that under no circumstances would he be the running mate.
Let's monitor the MSM. Kudos to the first poster who finds an instance of the MSM connecting the dots . . .
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Don't worry
July 25, 2007 - 20:26 ET by Scout FinchHillary will find another "Magic Negro" on the plantation who will mind her better and speak better DNC talking points.
"He's matured over the
July 25, 2007 - 20:28 ET by Chris Norman"He's matured over the past few months..."
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Chris, I agree, that would
July 25, 2007 - 20:33 ET by Mark FinkelsteinChris, I agree, that would be the line, but the audio tape, which exists, of Hillary calling him "naive and irresponsible" would be pretty devastating.
Mark, actually that
July 25, 2007 - 20:50 ET by Chris NormanMark, actually that was supposed to be a joke. The kind of slippery line the Clintons might use. Come to think, it wasn't really a joke, was it? It's kind of funny, how these people can savage each other and by the convention, all the criticisms are supposed to be forgotten and no longer applicable. By the way, it would be devastating - if the Republican candidate's campaign is smart - and tough - enough to use it. Sometimes, I despair.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Never forget this about Obama
July 25, 2007 - 20:52 ET by Mike BrattonBarack Hussein Obama is the world's quickest study. A couple of terms in the Illinois legislature, one speech at the DNC, and a couple of years in the U.S. Senate and he's qualified to run the free world--or at least be a heartbeat away.
As soon as Hillary says so.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
Mike, I share my office
July 25, 2007 - 21:18 ET by msh1973Mike,
I share my office with a liberal hippie from the 60's, she thinks that Obama is the second coming of JFK. I asked her what qualifies him to be President...I kid you not she said it was his Harvard education. I just rolled my eyes and kept working.
Haahvaad?
July 25, 2007 - 21:29 ET by Mike BrattonHmm. Some folks are easily swayed.
Try asking her what Barack Hussein Obama believes in. Right now, that is--some things will change if Hillary gives him the high sign.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport.com
}}}----> Articulate
July 26, 2007 - 05:55 ET by Cool ArrowHillary might try smoothing things over with a few compliments like "he's clean and articulate"
It worked pretty good for Joe Biden.
Somewhere along the line,
July 26, 2007 - 10:01 ET by FishFace222Somewhere along the line, we'll hear that those words were taken out of context and were referring to Osama Obama's smoking habit and the fact that he is supporting big tobacco.
I dunno...
July 25, 2007 - 20:44 ET by dervishFormer opponents can kiss and make up if they have to. Remember that Reagan took Bush Sr. as VP in spite of his "voodoo economics" remark in the primaries. (I recognize that this is a bit different.)
But she obviously isn't inclined to play nice with him, and if he's strong in the early primaries I bet she eviscerates him. He's only going to be the Veep candidate if he goes under early.
Agreed, they can kiss and
July 25, 2007 - 20:46 ET by Mark FinkelsteinAgreed, they can kiss and make up, but her original comments will live on.
Ah yes, I sort of missed the
July 25, 2007 - 20:55 ET by dervishAh yes, I sort of missed the point. But on the other hand, Hillary could only hope for this to be the biggest thing her campaign has to live down.
I compleatly agree,
July 25, 2007 - 21:19 ET by general companyI compleatly agree, although I think Biden is going to be her choice
No, the choice is...
July 25, 2007 - 21:25 ET by PawpawNCan't you all see the writing on the wall. Her VP will be no other than the media darling himself.....BILL CLINTON!!
Bill as VP?
July 26, 2007 - 06:15 ET by ThisnThatPaw - I think you might be on to something here. Think about it -- what's to prevent her from nominating Bill as VP? And wouldn't the Dims love it? And if the Dims love it, the MSM will also roll with the idea. Then, if any Repubs point out that this is nepotism, Hillery and her gang will claim victimhood, and garner even more sympathy. Really, there's no downside to her doing this.
I disagree.
July 26, 2007 - 06:24 ET by sarcasmoI disagree. Strategically, the Democrats' downside if they tried this would be a more motivated Republican base than even Hillary alone would bring, so they won't do it, any more than the (serious/non-Kucinich) Democrats will undertake any impeachment effort. Hillary's probably courting Richardson as a VP anyway, if my guess is right considering her recent tiff with Obama combined with Richardson's experience-factor commerical (which, I must admit, is rather slick & well-done).
JMR
}}}----> The Constitution
July 26, 2007 - 06:29 ET by Cool ArrowI know the Constitution is silent about it, but can Bill be Vice President after being the President of Vice?
I believe it's possible in
July 26, 2007 - 06:38 ET by sarcasmoI believe it's possible in theory, because there'd be no consecutive terms problems if Bill were to become President (or intern-problems anymore, either! WooHoo!!!). But it's not what they're going to do or doing. Of course, if she gets elected, Bill would no-doubt have a huge advisory role as "First Man," possibly bigger than whatever bucket of spit VP she picks, but saying anything like that to you is a mistake they're simply not gonna make, IMO.
JMR
22nd Amendment
July 26, 2007 - 07:45 ET by Hero Squad22nd Amendment
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
As I would understand it, that means B. Clinton could be the VP, and could ascend to the presidency, but could not run for re-election.
*****
"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown
The DIMS flock to polls!
July 26, 2007 - 06:41 ET by PawpawNThis ticket would cause all Dims, far left, left & mid-left to flock to polls. Heck, women love him, so those that wouldn't have voted for Shillary will now vote because their beloved Billy Boy is there. He can do all the speeches, since he has the captivating voice and charm. It's the PERFECT STORM!!
}}}----> Return to Camel Lot
July 26, 2007 - 06:47 ET by Cool ArrowI think it would sell. If only for the purpose of rubbing in our faces that dumb amendment the Republicans pushed through to avoid another FDR.
Makes sense
July 26, 2007 - 09:54 ET by Prester JohnSince the black voted is locked in at 90% anyway, why not really go after the Hispanic vote?
Biden
July 26, 2007 - 09:52 ET by Prester JohnCan't keep his mouth shut.
Hillary wouldn't be able to stand that.
Obama-Hillary
July 25, 2007 - 20:52 ET by Jason AslingerMark, I would like to take you up on your Obama-Hillary challenge, but I am busy tonight adding cacti to my flower boxes !! I'm still laughing about that one.
Good work, Jason. But just
July 25, 2007 - 20:55 ET by Mark FinkelsteinGood work, Jason. But just to ensure that your home is an absolutely impregnable fortress, don't forget the wind chime ;-)
}}}----> Wind Chimes
July 25, 2007 - 21:39 ET by Cool ArrowI'm currently mass producing cactus wind chimes. All the rage with the Chris Cuomo crowd.
Hillary and Barack
July 25, 2007 - 20:56 ET by pbthinkerIf my memory serves me correctly, JFK and LBJ had some tussles and Johnson was picked anyway. I predicted, after the 2004 election, that Barack or Harold Ford would be the Dems vice presidential candidate, and I'll stand by that.
Hillary's comments about Barack would only be a problem, if she were a Republican, being a Democrat, the MSM will give her every opportunity to correct that.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Ford
July 26, 2007 - 10:35 ET by Prester JohnIs way too young. Maybe in 15 - 20 years.
This picture of her, that I
July 25, 2007 - 21:32 ET by jdhawkThis picture of her, that I saw on Drudge yesterday and now here, makes Billary out to be in her early 40s. She is in her early 60s and up close looks like an old hag.
It is extraordinary that the media would Photoshop this picture to make her look much younger and not a word is said about it.
Isn't it enough that the media is forbidden to take pictures or film her fat a$$ and humongous thighs and calves all these years?
How often does the VP come
July 25, 2007 - 21:48 ET by Conservative VoiceHow often does the VP come from the pool of people running for President but lost the primaries? I can't think of one.
I'm Telling You Now!
July 25, 2007 - 21:51 ET by PawpawNGreat Freddie and the Dreamers song-I'm Telling You Now! " Can't you all see the writing on the wall. Her VP will be no other than the media darling himself.....BILL CLINTON!!"
John Kerry picked Edwards
July 26, 2007 - 05:14 ET by Mark FinkelsteinJohn Kerry picked Edwards last time around.
Veeps
July 26, 2007 - 09:49 ET by Prester JohnGeorge H.W. Bush in 1980
LBJ in 1960(?)
Down Her Nose
July 25, 2007 - 22:15 ET by BarkerThe condescending Clinton probably looks at Obama more like her HUD Secretary than her VP. If Hillary wins the nomination, she'll choose someone like Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana to run with her.
IF
July 26, 2007 - 09:51 ET by Prester JohnBayh can stand the idea of running with her and looks at it as a way to be a Prez in waiting for 8 years a la Gore.
But then we all know how that worked out for Gore, don't we?
Hillary's thinking of a
July 25, 2007 - 22:51 ET by Andrew H.Hillary's thinking of a running mate when what she ought to have is a parole officer. Interesting world our democrat reality.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
I think Wesley Clark will
July 25, 2007 - 23:27 ET by maggieqpublicI think Wesley Clark will be Hillary’s running mate. It will be “comforting” to the American people to have a member of the armed forces on the ballot as they contemplate electing the first female American president (and during a time of war). Obama will need to win the nomination to be on the November 2008 ballot…. at least that’s what I think.
Watch for Hillary
July 26, 2007 - 07:36 ET by moabgoesboom... to appoint Martin (gotta' have more taxes) O'Malley, the current socialist governor of Maryland.
You can't possibly support the troops if you don't support the mission.
hmm
July 26, 2007 - 09:15 ET by dwillmoreOk, I usually don't care about what people wear, but is that color Peto-bismal?
Hillary and Barry
July 26, 2007 - 10:07 ET by River CityHillary will never pick Barry as her running mate. My reasoning is because he will take too much of the attention away from her. He is a rising star in is own right and she in no way wants to share the spotlight with anyone. She is ascending to what she sees as her birthright. She has work her butt off her whole professional life and put up with Bill's crap to get here and she isn't going to share it with some up and coming "Magic Negro" to prep him to be her back up or replacement. No way, no how.
The theory about Bill being a potential VP is a good one but I doubt they will do it, same sharing the spot light issue. Wesley Clark is a good one too but I think she sees herself and the strong military person in her campaign. Bill Richardson has potential as a VP pick because of his hispanic creds and previous Clinton loyalties and also because of the Southwest pull he can bring.
Wasn't George Bush Sr. running for president the same time as Reagan? Isn't that when he made his voodoo economics comment? Could be wrong. I'm sure one of you has a better memory than I do.