On Monday's CBS Early Show, co-host Maggie Rodriguez interviewed BET Tonight host Ed Gordon about a recently released Associated Press-Yahoo! poll which found that forty percent of white Americans and one-third of Democrats and Independents harbor negative feelings about African Americans. The segment did not include any critique of the poll or the suggestion that such a large amount of people hold these negative feelings. Instead, Rodriguez asked Gordon questions such as, "In a race as tight as this one is, do you think race could be the or a deciding factor?"
To identify the percentage of certain demographic groups who have "negative feelings" about African Americans, inferences were made about how respondents feel towards the minority group from the answers they gave to certain questions. Some of the possible answers to certain questions, however, may suggest more of a disagreement with liberal policies like Affirmative Action and welfare rather than negative feelings towards African Americans.
For example, one of the questions asked respondents to indicate how much they agree or disagree with certain statements. One of these statements said, "Most blacks who receive money from welfare programs could get along without it if they tried."
Another question asked, "Some people say that black leaders have been trying to push
too fast. Others feel that they haven't pushed fast enough. What do you think?"
Also, to subtly find negative feelings towards African Americans, the poll included a series of questions which asked respondents to "indicate how many of the following statements upset" them without asking which specific statements they were upset by. The statements from the first question of the series were, "the federal government increasing the tax on gasoline," "professional athletes getting million-dollar-plus salaries," and "large corporations polluting the environment." After this initial question, a fourth statement was added to determine if including something about African Americans, like "a black family moving next door to where you live," changed the number of statements the respondents said upset them, which would indicate negative feelings. "Black leaders asking the government for racial equality in the work place" was also added to the list of statements.
A list of all of the questions with racial implications from the poll follows:
Please indicate HOW MANY of the following upset you.
The federal government increasing the tax on gasoline
Professional athletes getting million-dollar-plus salaries
Large corporations polluting the environmentPlease indicate HOW MANY of the following upset you.
The federal government increasing the tax on gasoline
Professional athletes getting million-dollar-plus salaries
Large corporations polluting the environment
A black family moving next door to where you livePlease indicate HOW MANY of the following upset you.
The federal government increasing the tax on gasoline
Professional athletes getting million-dollar-plus salaries
Large corporations polluting the environment
Black leaders asking the government for racial equality in the work placePlease indicate HOW MANY of the following upset you.
The federal government increasing the tax on gasoline
Professional athletes getting million-dollar-plus salaries
Large corporations polluting the environment
A black person serving as president of the United StatesHow much do you like or dislike each of the following groups: Whites, Blacks, Hispanics
Does the fact that if elected, Barack Obama would be the first black president of the United States make you more likely to vote for him, less likely to vote for him, or does it not affect your vote either way?
When it comes to politics, would you say that each of the groups listed below has too much influence, just about the right amount of influence, or too little influence?
How often have you felt sympathy for blacks?
How often have you felt admiration for blacks?
How well does each of these words describe most blacks: Friendly, Determined to succeed, Law abiding, Hard-working, Intelligent at school, Smart at everyday things, Good neighbors, Dependable, Keep up their property, Violent, Boastful, Complaining, Lazy, Irresponsible
Please indicate how much you agree or disagree with the following statements:
Irish, Italians, Jewish, and other minorities overcame prejudice and worked up their way up, blacks should do the same without special favorsIt's really a matter of some people just not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder they could be just as well off as whites
Generations of slavery have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class
Over the past few years, blacks have gotten LESS than they deserve
Most blacks who receive money from welfare programs could get along without it if they tried
Government officials usually pay less attention to a requite or complaint from a black person than from a white person
Over the past few years, blacks have gotten more ECONOMICALLY than they deserve
Some people say that black leaders have been trying to push too fast. Others feel that they haven't pushed fast enough. What do you think?
How much of the racial tension that exists in the United States today do you think blacks are responsible for creating?
How much discrimination against blacks do you feel there is in the United States today, limiting their chances to get ahead?



















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Wow, talk about a scientific
September 22, 2008 - 16:40 ET by motherbeltWow, talk about a scientific approach! That's right up there with looking at ballots and assessing "the intent of the voter"!
Now, mb!!!!
September 22, 2008 - 18:00 ET by BlondeDon't go insulting my home.....Broward County (bastion of liberal nuttiness).....hanging & pregnant chad notoriety.
Okay...never mind, be my guest. Those "intent" people were idiots.
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This entire poll could have
September 22, 2008 - 16:59 ET by ElyasThis entire poll could have been summed up in one question.
1) Do you agree with all liberal ideals and policies?
A) Yes, I'm not racist.
B) No, I'm racist.
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Well done. That was a good
September 22, 2008 - 17:43 ET by zfWell done. That was a good one and gave me a good laugh!
Associated Press and Yahoo poll
September 22, 2008 - 17:01 ET by HeavyChevyWhich is then talked about by CBS to someone from BET. Seriously I'm suppose to believe that?
"9 out of 10 doctors agree that flag burning is the number one killer of liberals."
If I new there was...
September 22, 2008 - 17:30 ET by T-Bone MassI would have studied... I answered yes to all questions, how'd I do?
racist race
September 22, 2008 - 17:47 ET by CatherwoodIf Obama loses, the liberal and the msm will blame the loss on race and racists whether that is the reason for the loss or not. Blacks will used Obama's loss as a reason to loot a few cities, kill a few white guys and knock over some Asian 7-11s. I think we all know this is coming, but few are talking about it because doing so would make them appear racist.....oh, the irony.
I had a guy in an airport tell me that I was a racist because I was not going to vote for Obama. I asked him why he thought that and he pointed out that I was from Florida. That explains it.
Wow, that is very general
September 22, 2008 - 17:49 ET by zfWow, that is very general and ambigious poll methology. You just cannot draw simplistic conclusions about the attitudes of the respondents when the answers to the questions are inherently more complex than the simple "yes/no" structure of the queries.
M(r)s. Thomas,
September 22, 2008 - 19:54 ET by HillbillyKingGreat post. I posted a comment on this the other day here.
Another way to tell that this poll was "loaded" to abtain the desired result( in this case "proof" of racism effecting the Presidential election) was this wonderful piece of data;
REGION Wave 6
Northeast 19
Midwest 22
South 36
West 23
These are the areas of the USA where the participants of the poll live. Notice anything "funny"? I sure do.
If one was seeking "proof" of white racism what better place to look than the segment of the country with the most illustrious history regarding prejudice. Could that be why the South has a 50% greater representation in the poll than the other parts of the country? I think so.
Combine that fact with those "loaded" questions you so accurately noted in your post and we have the recipe for this particular poll.
The most amazing thing about this "legitimate" poll is given how hard they tried to skew the results towards their original goals, the fact that they FAILED is evident by the numbers of whites polled that harbor ZERO negative feelings towards blacks. After all their hard work, the FACTS worked against them.
I guess next time they will just have to conduct their polls at a Klan rally to obtain the "right" result. :-}
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I'm growing more than a
September 22, 2008 - 22:04 ET by ApacheI'm growing more than a little tired with the constant portrayal of the south as a bunch of racists. I had an amusing conversation with an ignorant California liberal that just seemed amazed blacks lived in my neighborhood. Seemed even amazed that blacks even lived in the south. Ironically this idiot didn't know of any blacks in his neighborhood but wanted to keep his view of himself as more "progressive" than those southern folk. Just to make his head explode with information overload, I gave him a brief history of the civil war and how the north certainly wasn't clean in the deal. The south at least has had to deal with it's race problems very openly. His version of events was written by revisionist libs. Then I told him that he needed to be more diverse, get away from lib land, and stop inhaling his own farts as if they were fine wine. Just because every dumbass hollywood movie paints everyone from the South as a ignorant racist redneck doesn't make it true. But they love to stick to that stereotype because it prevents them from doing any critical thinking. NBC sent Muslims to a Nascar event hoping they would get to video at least one dumbass who had a negative reaction to them. They didn't. But all they needed was one dumbass and they would still be pounding away at that 'southern racist' drum. At least we can still stereotype the southerners and provide that for the excuse as to why Obama will lose rather than really investigate his idiotic ideas. Let the northern media paint their picture. It will further alienate "fly over country" who won't bend to elect the media selected candidate just so we can feel all warm and fuzzy for lifting a black man into office just for the sake of lifting a black man into office. You want to see "fly over country" put a minority into office then give us Condi Rice or someone other than that pathetic empty suit. Just like when we wouldn't vote for hillary we were a bunch of woman haters but now that we have Palin it all turned upside down. We love her and the national orginization of women hates her. So much for convenient stereotypes.
Apache... I'm not sure
September 22, 2008 - 22:25 ET by Clear thinkerApache...
I'm not sure how you will take my response, but do keep an open mind while reading it.
I have lived in the south for almost 30 years now (yankee transplant), and I must disagree with somethig you said. There are a lot of racists here in the South, but it's the same in the North, East, and West. Here's the catch, the vast majority of the racists here in the South are Democrats. I'm sure there are a few republicans that are racist, but they are far and few between. However, I make a slight distinction between being a Republican and being a Conservative. In all the years I have lived in the South, I have never once ran into a racist Conservative. Never!
A few months ago I predicted right here on NB that Obama would lose the election because of racism, but it would the racists in his own party that will do him in. In fact, I have bets to that effect with a few NB regulars. My radar started to quiver when I would hang out at the store where I always get my morning cup of joe. Most of the regulars are hardcore Democrats. In all the years I have known these guys thay still have no idea about my politics. I tend to listen more than speak. One of these guys is the County chair for the Dem party, and a few of the others are what you might call his cronies. They were all mad as hell when Hillary got the boot. Why? Well, in their own words "there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a "N" for president". A couple of weeks later I heard the party chair brag that he had spoken to other county chairs at some meeting they had, and almost everyone of them said Obama will be pushed aside by McCain. Why? Becuase every one of them has promised to vote for McCain.
So if the democrat county chairs of about 16 NC counties are all saying the same racially motivated statements, or at least agreeing with them, then you can count on a whole lot more to join in. I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.
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September 22, 2008 - 22:34 ET by Cool ArrowAnd the MSM is realizing it now, even though they are not singling out the Dems yet.
But if you think about it, there are plenty of valid reasons for a Republican to vote McCain/Palin, but It's Dems who are really being accused of turning on their party because of color.
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Don't take this the wrong
September 22, 2008 - 23:08 ET by ApacheDon't take this the wrong way but I don't need to be told to keep an open mind. I've always felt that request to be a little condescending and tends to be followed with a great deal of bloviation. Not that yours was.
I was taking exception to the notion that the "poll was loaded to obtain the desired result" by focusing on the south. As you say, it's the same in the North, East, and West. Maybe the pollsters did think they were skewing it based on their own stereotypes of the south but I doubt it changed much. Now if they targeted hardcore dixicrats then that would skew the poll.
Thank you, Apache.
September 23, 2008 - 00:44 ET by HillbillyKingI appreciate you seeing the point I was makin with my post. I absolutely LOVED the fact that the "brains" out in California that were behind this "poll" thought that by overrepresenting the south in their "poll" they would obtain their desired results. HA! Sorry fellas, but ya made a mistake there. I too live in the south, well WV(but we were part of the South until 1863 :-} ), and I've found that the people here are no different than people anywhere.
I think that the misconception comes from, of course, the Civil War, and the Civil Rights movement. The South's stance on slavery in the War and the noteable events that took place in the South during the CR movement tend to jade liberal thinking.(or maybe most thinking for that matter) But the truth is much more all-encompassing. Take a look at this;
(Granted it's from Wiki, but I think it makes the point)
United States
Main article: Mass racial violence in the United States
Further information: Timeline of riots and civil unrest in Omaha, Nebraska
[edit] Nativist Period 1700's-1860
White Irish-descendant and Irish immigrant dock workers rioted against
Black dock workers. When the Black dock workers banded together to
defend their community from the approaching Whites, the White rioters
retreated and then commandeered a 6-pound cannon and shot it through
the streets of Cincinnati.
[edit] Civil War Period 1861-1865
[edit] Reconstruction Period: 1865 - 1877
[edit] Jim Crow Period: 1878 - 1914
[edit] War and Inter-War Period: 1914 - 1945
[edit] Postwar era: 1946 - 1954
[edit] Civil Rights and Black Power Movement's Period: 1955 - 1977
[edit] Modern
After Officer Jim Knight stopped 18 yr. old Tyron Lewis for speeding,
his car lurched forward causing Knight to fire his weapon, fatally
wounding the black teenager. Riots broke out and lasted for about 2
days.
Once you get to 1950 forward thru now, a large MAJORITY of race riots have taken place everywhere else in the country EXCEPT the South. IF the South was as sterotypically racist as is (wrongly) believed, shouldn't the large majority of race riots take place in the South?
I think that if one reads the entire poll questionnaire with the context in mind that; one is a liberal pollster attempting to produce a poll validating white racism in America working against Obama; then one can easily see how the questions were designed to produce the desired effect. With that same context in mind, along with the "rewritten" history that is taught in most Universities today, the skew of the sample pool towards those people living in the South is not only evident, but "logical".
As you and Clear pointed out (and from the evidence of race riots from around the country), racism exists in EVERY part of this country. However, DESPITE the pollsters best efforts, what this poll showed was that a large majority of white Americans from around the ENTIRE country held ZERO negative feeling towards black Americans.
I locked onto the overreprensentation of the South as just one piece of evidence that the poll was POORLY conducted. The posts here a NB have pointed out quite a few more.
Hegel, these folks aren't. But, in this day and age, do they have to be?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
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I wonder...
September 22, 2008 - 20:23 ET by Joe C.if they would have asked Blacks about their negative feelings about Whites, if the results would have been even higher. If so, how would they spin that? More evidence of White racism no doubt 'cuz everyone knows that Blacks hold no ill feelings toward anyone without good reason.
Conclusion from AP poll: race may have zero election effect!
September 22, 2008 - 20:46 ET by Alfred J. LemireI spent perhaps eight hours on this last night and this morning, first finding the survey on the Internet (thanks, AP). Then I read it closely, peering at every question. (One of the outfits behind the poll had run a poll in 2003 with tendentious questions and later claimed that Fox News viewers were ill-informed and Lehrer News Hour viewers were well-informed. But I then viewed both programs and read three newspapers daily and I'd have provided "wrong" answers.) So I wrote a post at Power Line, http://www.plnewsforum.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/40090/P15/
Ron Fournier and Trevor Tompson of the AP's Washington Bureau and some prof from Stanford missed the biggest question and the most important responses in the poll. The question, deliberately emphasized:
Does the fact that if elected, Barack Obama would be the first black president of the United States make you more likely to vote for him, less likely to vote for him, or does it not affect your vote either way?
The key responses lay in the "all respondents" part, which included whites, blacks, Hispanics, Other, and Mixed-Race, according to their percentage in the general population. How did "all respondents" break down? 9% were "more likely" to vote for Obama because he would be the first black--actually, he's mixed-race, so the question was flawed--President, 9% were "less likely" to vote for him for that reason, and 82%, the overwhelming majority, contended that that factor would not affect them either way.
Ron Fournier, who I think is presently Acting Head of the AP's Washington Bureau, and Trevor Tompson, who was and likely still is the AP's Director of Surveys, wrote an article on the AP-Yahoo News poll. They contended that one-third of white Democrats have negative attitudes toward blacks. The article claimed that if no white racial prejudice existed, "statistical models" showed his support would be six percentage points higher. Perhaps, but as your extensive reproduction of poll questions and statements demonstrates, one may conclude that the thrust of the questioning was to place racial concerns to the fore.
In actual practice, most voters will vote for someone despite misgivings. If something heightens a person's misgivings, the person might either switch a vote or not vote at all. And one has to question whether a shaky model can predict voting behavior effectively.
But there's another major factor. People do not vote for large groups, they vote for individuals, and voters are perfectly capable of distinguishing an individual from the mass of a group. I don't want to repeat the negative factors, but one can see that most do not describe Sen. Obama.
And there's a third: note again that the crucial poll question found an even split between more and less likely to vote for Obama because he would be the first black President. What about those voting for him because he is black? Conservative blacks who otherwise would vote for McCain-Palin would have understandable reasons for switching to Obama. But there are many, many whites who thrilled to a convention speech in 2004 I thought was banal when not dishonest. In this critic's view, the people flocking to his banner often were gullible or ignorant.
Will another survey seek to discover why people would flock to his banner? His record and his political ideas lie on the extreme left of the polity. Senator Bad understands little of economics; Senator Much Worse, Obama, understands less. But then, this writer distrusts Obama, the most extreme leftist to run for President on a major party ticket in American history.
Nor can anyone expect a survey to seek to determine how many people want to ensure that Sarah Palin does not become Vicc President because of her religious faith and why. The lies about her appall; I do not expect journalistic truth squads to exert any effort trying to answer them.
This is super-long, but the survey and the AP story appall--again. The AP gang members hunted for bias, but ignored the salient fact that voters themselves either really don't care about his race or split evenly, pro and anti. And that is the bottom line.
Outstanding
September 23, 2008 - 01:02 ET by HillbillyKingpost, both here and at Powerline, Mr. Lemire. I enjoyed reading both. Thanks.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
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