Appearing as a guest during the 10 a.m. hour of the July 11 “MSNBC News Live,” Chicago Tribune managing editor James Warren compared McCain adviser Phil Gramm’s recent comments on the economy’s health to those of Henry Ford during the Great Depression:
But I think in the annals of a not particularly sensitive remarks this will rank up there with a bunch of things. Somebody, a historian reminded me yesterday, the auto manufacturing pioneer Henry Ford during the Depression said something to the effect that “these really are good times, it’s just that few know it.”
Warren then went on to suggest that Gramm needs to be reminded of the current economy’s impact on average Americans:
Story Continues Below Ad ↓It might suit Mr. Gramm to sorta dress down, go on a commuter train in any major American city and see all of the folks who really are impacted by high gas prices or maybe, you know, maybe down near here, your old stomping grounds in Chicago, maybe in a South Bend, Indiana. Spend a few days as a car dealer and see what life is like these days.
While Gramm’s statement was tone deaf in an age of soundbites, comparing it to Ford’s statement during the Great Depression is ludicrous, unless you’re of the opinion that the economy right now is actually in a Great Depression-like recession, which, it’s safe to say, the data in no way support.
As NewsBusters contributor Scott Whitlock pointed out, the media have played a role in Americans thinking that the economy is worse than it actually is. With “Good Morning America” continually providing “Recession Rescue” tips and CBS declaring we are in a recession, it is easy to see why many people may think that America is already in a recession, or right on the verge of one. But the economy has yet to have even one quarter of negative growth, much less the two required for the country to be in a real recession.
What’s more, as fellow NewsBuster Nathan Burchfiel demonstrated, in the context of Gramm’s comments, he was lamenting that the media’s negativism was a large part of the mentality among Americans that we are in a recession. Indeed, as the MRC’s Business & Media Institute noted in a recent special report, print media coverage at the actual beginning of the Great Depression was more balanced and less hyperbolic than current reporting about the economy, which has been cooling, but not yet entered a recession.
The transcript of the exchange, which occurred at 10:04 a.m. during the July 11 MSNBC News Live, follows:
LESTER HOLT, host: To politics now and Decision 2008. More fallout right now for John McCain. In the very week the McCain campaign was focused on the economy and the pain voters are feeling, one of McCain’s closest associates called Americans a “nation of whiners” about the bad economy. McCain quickly distanced himself from Phil Gramm. For more on that and the other campaign headlines Jim Warren joins me. He’s managing editor for the Chicago Tribune. Jim, a lot’s been said about the statement but the follow up to that is Phil Gramm is standing by what he said. He’s clarifying it to suggest our leaders are the whiners. Does that help or hurt McCain as he tries to distance himself?
JAMES WARREN, Chicago Tribune: Yeah, no, it doesn’t help but I think McCain was very droid and very dull. There was some comment about Phil Gramm now in line to be, what, Ambassador to Belarus or something like that. If there was any notion of him as a vice presidential candidate, and there probably was, I think that’s now been dispensed with. But I think in the annals of a not particularly sensitive remarks this will rank up there with a bunch of things. Somebody, a historian reminded me yesterday, the auto manufacturing pioneer Henry Ford during the Depression said something to the effect that “these really are good times, it’s just that few know it.” And I think that’s, that will be ripe. There are fewer film buff, Lester, there are the old Preston Sturdgist Depression-era movies where guys from the good side of the tracks would dress down to see how folks who are having a hard time were doing. It might suit Mr. Gramm to sorta dress down, go on a commuter train in any major American city and see all of the folks who really are impacted by high gas prices or maybe, you know, maybe down near here, your old stomping grounds in Chicago, maybe in a South Bend, Indiana. Spend a few days as a car dealer and see what life is like these days.



















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When it comes to a
July 11, 2008 - 16:02 ET by Chris NormanWhen it comes to a Republican controversy, the media has no limits. And the libs complained that the Wright contoversy got too much coverage. How blatant can they go (I'm sure we are about to find out). Why can't just one Republican call them on this?
McNotObama '08
I really hope this
July 11, 2008 - 16:37 ET by TruthMongerI really hope this means the MSM can finally get back to Repub slander like this again - instead of (would-be-career-ruining-if-a-repub-said-it) democrat remarks like jacksons!
Good Advice
July 11, 2008 - 16:35 ET by Agrarian-Decentralist"Warren then went on to suggest that Gramm needs to be reminded of the current economy’s impact on average Americans."
Exactly.
of course - unlike the
July 11, 2008 - 16:45 ET by TruthMongerof course - unlike the DNC/MSM - Gramm already knows all about it
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>> GRAMM'S NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION
>>
>> "We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to
>> help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid
>> more riots, keep our nation safe, pro mote positive behavior, and
>> secure the blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our
>> great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain
>> and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny,
>> guilt ridden, delusional. We hold these truths to be self evident:
>> that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are
>> so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights."
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen
>> TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally
>> acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended.
>> This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone
>> -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a
>> different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and
>> probably always will be.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If
>> you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not
>> expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives
>> independently wealthy.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and
>> housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and
>> will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of
>> subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch
>> potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another
>> generation of professional couch potatoes. Get an education and go to
>> work. ...don't expect everyone else to take care of you!
>> &nb sp;
>>
>> ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That
>> would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not
>> interested in public health care.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other
>> people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone,
>> don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the
>> electric chair.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of
>> others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of
>> other citizens, don't be sur prised if the rest of us get together
>> and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to
>> a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us
>> sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard
>> times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of
>> education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself
>> useful. (AMEN!)
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an
>> American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by
>> the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance
>> of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill
>> of Rights.
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care
>> where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to
>> wherever you came from! (Lastly....)
>>
>>
>> ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's
>> history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one
>> true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any
>> religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution
>> The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and
>> if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!
>>
>>
TM did you write this?
July 11, 2008 - 21:48 ET by general companyIt is quite funny, even though I know it is pure, well we wont say that here. Either way, call me impressed
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Right, like a big-shot
July 11, 2008 - 22:09 ET by zfRight, like a big-shot major newspaper head like Warren is some freaking man of the people all of a sudden.
You mean the same Henry
July 11, 2008 - 16:50 ET by fitzfongYou mean the same Henry Ford who stimulated an industry by creating a car that his workers could afford to buy? I guess he didn't understand economics, either?
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
fitzfong.blogspot.com
Henry Ford and the Detroit Press
July 11, 2008 - 21:26 ET by WR JonasThat is all the MSM has to say? what a bunch of jackals . Scene: Henry's original garage and his first little engine putt putting away on a test stand while two reporters look on . R1-Whadda ya got here Henry? HF -An internal combustion engine. R2 Its been done before Henry. Kinda smelly and noisy isn't it ? HF,- Well it will get better , this is just the first one . R1-Well , I wouldn't put a lotta money into it Henry, (smirking) , we saw an electric motor actually drive a horseless carriage a few days ago , and it was something to see. R2 - Yeah, and it didn't stink. ( both roar with laughter) Reporters turn and leave and as they're walking away Henry Ford says , wait you don't understand . I can make enough of these so everyone will want and afford one ! R-1- A-ford one . Nice try Henry but we'll see you in the poor house, Ha Ha Ha !
earnings season
July 12, 2008 - 00:35 ET by JWFAre these buffoons aware it is earnings season again. Companies are reporting last quarters results.
So far, so of the better known companies
Alcoa - profit not as much as last year but still in the black.
Sealy - profit not as much as last year but still in the black.
Ruby Tuesday - profit not as much as last year but still in the black.
Marriott - profit not as much as last year but still in the black.
GE - profit not as much as last year but still in the black.
Fastenal - profits better than last year.
If it keeps up, and companies keep reporting in results like these, I need all my NB buddies to cheer me up and keep me from buying that gun and ending it all. Cuz this is making the Great Depression look like christmas morning under the tree.
Wait a minute, black is making money right? Someone is lying about this whole recession business I think. Maybe I will take the gun buying money and invest in some stocks instead.