Reminder: 'God Hates Fags' Church Run By Democrats
Given the Westboro Baptist Church's protest at the funeral of Elizabeth Edwards, it's worth revisiting the old lefty canard that the group is "right-wing." The claim is especially popular in the liberal blogosphere, where it's made ad nauseum during any discussion of the group.
So let's review some history. Fred Phelps, the head of the "church," actually has a long history of support for Democrats. He has run as a Democrat for governor of Kansas three tiumes, mayor of Topeka twice, and for the U.S. Senator once.
Al Gore was apparently the family's favorite Democrat. Phelps himself was a Gore delegate when he ran for president in 1988. The Phelpses even held a fundraiser for Gore in their Topeka, Kansas home. Their support paid off. The Phelps family was invited to the Clinton/Gore inaugurations in 1993 and 1997.
Here are some pictures originally posted at the website of the Log Cabin Republicans (link above) more than 10 years ago of Gore and various members of the Phelps family:
Phelps's son, Fred Jr. (left) and Al Gore (center) at the fundraiser held at the Phelps's Topeka home.
Left to right: Fred Phelps Jr., Tipper Gore, Betty Phelps, Al Gore
Left to right: Phelps's son Timothy, Al Gore, Fred Phelps Jr.
This is all worth remembering in case a reporter picks up on this meme - currently confined to the nutroots - and pushes it into the mainstream.
(Hat tip: Coach Collins}
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And our trolls will be jumping in here to defend this in...
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:01pm.
...5...4...3...2...1...
Of course, Wall Street is run by dems, too, but you'll never, EVER hear that from the lying MSM.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
You're right. He's just a
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:15pm.
You're right. He's just a nice old man being treated unfairly by the mainstream media.
Er, what I meant to say is political affiliation or not, a pr**k is a pr**k.
Dead Teddy, Funny how I mention "troll," any you are the first..
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:22pm.
...person to pop up in here.
LOL - Is that a guilty conscience I am detecting?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
~They're attracted
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:25pm.
to the smell of burning rubber. And Limberger cheese. And chicken.
Be vewy, vewy quiet.....
:-D
R, Limberger cheese?
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:47pm.
Ewwwwww.
That stuff smells worse than rutabagas cooking, and that is about the most malodorous thing one will ever encounter in a kitchen outside of burned popcorn.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I hope you realize I HAD to
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:23pm.
I hope you realize I HAD to respond to your post. It was just too tempting.
Oh by the way - you know us liberals have no conscience. ; )
I know, Dead Teddy
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:31pm.
LOL - It's my animal magnetism.
:-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
And my animal instinct. ; )
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:37pm.
And my animal instinct. ; )
I know. That much is obvious.
Submitted by Tenebrous on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:45pm.
You are absolutely right. Liberals have no conscience. That's why liberals supported Margaret Sanger in her quest to rid the world of colored babies. That's why liberals loved Stalin, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, and other brutal despots who murdered millions. That's why liberals support infanticide from sea to shining sea. That's why liberals support national weakness, deny people the right to support themselves and defend themselves, and on and on.
Liberals not only have no conscience, they are scarcely able to say the word, and when they can, it is the kind of disgusted murmur like the way that a vampire speaks of crosses.
Visions and Principles blog
Thanks for the reminder, Lachlan....
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:40pm.
Such a relevant and responsible presentation. What next? A video clip of the Republican David Duke and family singing "White Supremacist Christmas"? Probably not.
Jer
Westboro Baptist Church & Al Gore---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 9:47pm.
singularly, or together, absolutely cannot be newsworthy, Jer.
They are both so passe.
Good whine.
I mean, good point.
MD
Figure it Out, Jer.
Submitted by Tenebrous on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:52pm.
Did you even see that he linked to various lefty nutcases pushing this theme? Oh, no. I guess you forgot to read that part. Did you notice that Westboro is often in the news (unlike David Duke, for example)? Did you know that David Duke changed his party allegiance after he had caused too many PR problems for the Republicans? But I forgot. Jer is interested in "relevance" (which means "Jer determines what is relevant, not reality") and "responsibility". Responsibility, of course, means only allowing liberals to determine what is news. Anything else is simply irresponsible.
I guess you porn-loving abortionists can praise Hugh Heffner and fret about responsibility in the same breath. It's all part of the mindless moralless "nuance" that all liberals possess in place of a mind.
Visions and Principles blog
Oh dear...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 1:05am.
The caretaker apparently forgot to lock the door to your cage again. Figure out what? I checked out the links--even the one to the far-right Gore-hating WND which notes that Phelps has in recent years "soured" on Gore because of his more liberal stance on homosexuality--a fact Lachlan conveniently ignores. So which lefty nutjobs are pushing what themes?
Jer
You mean the David Duke....
Submitted by ckc1227 on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 4:52am.
.....that began his political career as a Democrat?
Affirmative, ckc...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:06am.
The one and only, who apparently decided he would find a more comfortable home in the GOP. To the Republicans' credit, however, they made it clear he was unwelcome. By the same token, no one can convince me Phelps is currently welcome in the Democratic party in general or by Gore in particular. And I just don't understand the point of Lachlan's dredging this up.
Jer
I agree. Phelps and his
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 9:52am.
I agree. Phelps and his church are not the media. What does it matter which politicians or political ideology he favors? It's not as if both sides don't find him disgusting. Just a pointless entry of guilt by association, and it's not even willful association.
Since the title of this site
Submitted by NC Cop on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:31am.
Since the title of this site is "NEWSBUSTERS" I believe the point was that had the media had pictures of a prominent Republican with these Westboro nutcases, it would be splashed over every single show, paper, magazine, and website for weeks at a time.
However, because the photo is of one with them with Gore, the media's darling, we've never even seen these photos before.
Get it?
The tagline is "exposing and
Submitted by Satchmo on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 11:55am.
The tagline is "exposing and combating liberal media bias." Phelps and co. are not the media. The point was right there in the title: "Reminder: 'God Hates Fags' Church Run By Democrats". Nothing about the media. We can all hate Democrats and liberals, we can hate everything they stand for, but we can also recognize this was a lame attempt at guilt by association.
~The point
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 1:29pm.
Besides the one that resides at the top of your head, is that the media is absolutely silent about Phelps' association with the Dem party, whereas a connection with Republicans would be shouted from the rooftops every time this nastly little group made news.
Liberals constantly refer to Phelps and his gang as conservative, see for yourself.
It's a strange anomaly,
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 1:31pm.
It's a strange anomaly, having conservative Christian beliefs while campaigning as a Democrat. Maybe that's why he never won more than 15% of the vote...in the primaries.
~I thought it was
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 2:20pm.
Because of the bats which perpetually flutter about his belfry.
He doesn't have conservative Christian beliefs, he has egomaniacal control-freak beliefs.
No, you're right. He's a
Submitted by Guttermouth's Return on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 2:29pm.
No, you're right. He's a wolf cloaked in his own version of Christianity.
Wrathful Bru...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:44pm.
Even Conservapedia points out the following:
http://Phelps has since changed his opinion about Gore when he joined Bill Clinton on the 1992 presidential ticket. Phelps turned on him and claimed Gore was a conservative icon of the Democratic Party that sold out on some critical social issues. Phelps also demonstrated against Clinton and Gore during the 1997 inaugural.
Don't you agree it would have been appropriate for Lachlan to do likewise?
Phelps is a severely disturbed homophobic nut who no responsible liberal or conservative supports.
Jer
~Eh
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 12/17/2010 - 12:04pm.
The meme in the media is that these nuts are politically conservative, which is patently false. Turning on Gore doesn't outweight the fact that the guy is a life-long Dem.
If Phelps had subsequently run for office as a Repub, that would be noteworthy. He hasn't changed his political affiliation, he's just not a Bore fan anymore.
WB...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:37pm.
Have you read what Phelps has said about Democrats such as Wesley Clark, John Kerry, Pelosi and many others? It' stomach-turning. The only contemporary Democrats he has any use for--or is a "fan" of--are the few who are, or whom he thinks may be, anti-gay.
I'm sure there are still some racist KKK members who are life-long registered Democrats, too. Ask them to name their "liberal" heroes or which crop of current Dems they admire. It would be a mighty short list.
Jer
~The less I hear from that guy
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Fri, 12/17/2010 - 8:40pm.
the better I sleep at night.
The bias is in the omission, Incestmo
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:57pm.
See, there's two flavors of bias, commonly known as either cheerleading bias or burying bias.
This is an example of burying bias. It should be pretty obvious.
ps: Nice try with the "We can all hate Democrats and liberals...".
I knew someone would pick up Duke
Submitted by jarrett.edwards on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 12:53am.
I would remind the libs who like to point out David Duke that he ran as a Rrpublican but recieved almost no support from Republicans around the country and that a good number of Republicans went to LA and campaigned against him because they did not want him associated with the GOP.
Correct, jarrett... Now,
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 1:12am.
Correct, jarrett...
Now, would you care to list the Democrats who currently embrace the sick homophobia of Phelps and Westboro?
I'm surprised and disappointed that Lachlan would post this blog.
Jer
I'm neither surprised nor disappointed---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 3:02am.
that a lib or a Democrat would be upset with a blog article that showed ol' Owlgore was a putz.
MD
Well, Matthew... You may
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 4:22am.
Well, Matthew...
You may have a point. I will say this: If Gore knew of Phelps' views and still courted his support, he was worse than a putz.
Jer
Comprehension not your strong suit
Submitted by ckc1227 on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 4:59am.
He posted the blog because the current meme is that the right is the party of religion, and some on the left would be more than happy to imply that this group of scum are just another bunch of right wing bigots, when the truth is they are a bunch of left wing bigots.
Comprehension is my strong suit...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:10am.
The truth is they are just a bunch of bigots, period.
Jer
I should point out that...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Fri, 12/17/2010 - 1:08am.
...Kevin Smith is making a film supposedly inspired by and featuring a villian similar to Fred Phelps. This film's name: Red State. So, at least one apparently liberal filmmaker seeks to hang Phelps and co. around the necks of the Republican party.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Phelps is right-wing on
Submitted by redfish on Tue, 01/04/2011 - 3:15pm.
Phelps is right-wing on social issues, that is correct. What should be made clear is that he doesn't represent any real constitutency among real conservatives. He's just a circus side show that has nothing to do with mainstream politics. If the fact that he identifies as a Democrat helps prove that, then its important to let people know he's a Democrat.