Michael Moore Bails Out Julian Assange, Despite Total Ignorance of His Actual Views
To the sound of the nation's collective yawn, filmmaker Michael Moore announced Tuesday that he had given $20,000 to bail out Wikileaks proprietor Julian Assange from a British jail.
Moore cited his admiration for Assange's quest for openness and transparency in government. But Assange has openly declared that his objective is precisely the opposite - he wants to make the American government so opaque that it cannot function.
Moore went on to laud the lives Assange has supposedly saved by preventing global conflict (well, not really global, since Moore only seems concerned with American misdeeds). But Wikileaks has actually made it more likely, not less, that nations will rely on military might instead of diplomacy.
In between his trademark accusations of war crimes and indictments of various American military actions, Moore managed to stammer the following about Assagne and Wikileaks:
Might WikiLeaks cause some unintended harm to diplomatic negotiations and U.S. interests around the world? Perhaps. But that's the price you pay when you and your government take us into a war based on a lie. Your punishment for misbehaving is that someone has to turn on all the lights in the room so that we can see what you're up to. You simply can't be trusted. So every cable, every email you write is now fair game. Sorry, but you brought this upon yourself. No one can hide from the truth now. No one can plot the next Big Lie if they know that they might be exposed.
And that is the best thing that WikiLeaks has done. WikiLeaks, God bless them, will save lives as a result of their actions. And any of you who join me in supporting them are committing a true act of patriotism. Period.
Oy. Either Moore doesn't understand the direct implications of Wikileaks's actions, or he does, and shares Assange's desire for the de facto destruction of America's foreign policy establishment. I'll leave that determination to the readers.
First, it is important to note that Assange does not want transparency. In fact, it's just the opposite. Assange wants to expose so much secret and sensitive information, that the American foreign policy establishment is forced to become more opaque, more insulated, and less responsive. His endgame is the total breakdown of American foreign policy.
A cursory review of Assange's own writings reveals those facts. As Wall Street Journal columnist Gordon Crovitz wrote:
In 2006, Mr. Assange wrote a pair of essays, "State and Terrorist Conspiracies" and "Conspiracy as Governance." He sees the U.S. as an authoritarian conspiracy. "To radically shift regime behavior we must think clearly and boldly for if we have learned anything, it is that regimes do not want to be changed," he writes. "Conspiracies take information about the world in which they operate," he writes, and "pass it around the conspirators and then act on the result."
His central plan is that leaks will restrict the flow of information among officials—"conspirators" in his view—making government less effective. Or, as Mr. Assange puts it, "We can marginalize a conspiracy's ability to act by decreasing total conspiratorial power until it is no longer able to understand, and hence respond effectively to its environment. . . . An authoritarian conspiracy that cannot think efficiently cannot act to preserve itself."
Berkeley blogger Aaron Bady last week posted a useful translation of these essays. He explains Mr. Assange's view this way: "While an organization structured by direct and open lines of communication will be much more vulnerable to outside penetration, the more opaque it becomes to itself (as a defense against the outside gaze), the less able it will be to 'think' as a system, to communicate with itself." Mr. Assange's idea is that with enough leaks, "the security state will then try to shrink its computational network in response, thereby making itself dumber and slower and smaller."…
Or as Mr. Assange told Time magazine last week, "It is not our goal to achieve a more transparent society; it's our goal to achieve a more just society." If leaks cause U.S. officials to "lock down internally and to balkanize," they will "cease to be as efficient as they were."
So again, Moore's standing ovation for Assange's desire for transparency is completely unmoored (forgive the pun) even from Assange's own stated objectives.
Moore declared (to some unnamed person) that "every cable, every email you write is now fair game." And that is exactly what Assange is going for. But the endgame is not openness. It's exactly the opposite. Because every internal communication is now "fair game," State officials will surely communicate less information internally.
Moore also claimed that "No one can plot the next Big Lie if they know that they might be exposed." But that's not right; folks can plot the next Big Lie all they want, they just can't keep a record of the plot. That makes the system more opaque, not transparent.
And though it won't improve transparency, the breakdown in internal communications will handicap the State Department. With enough leaks, Assange hopes, internal communication will break down entirely and the diplomatic community will be unable to function.
And what happens when diplomacy is impossible? Among other things, there will be more physical conflict where disagreements cannot be worked out peacefully (and peaceful conflict resolution is the entire purpose of diplomacy). Assange may or may not understand that fact.
As the New Republic's James Rubin wrote early this month,
By and large, the hard left in America and around the world would prefer to see the peaceful resolution of disputes rather than the use of military force. World peace, however, is a lot harder to achieve if the U.S. State Department is cut off at the knees. And that is exactly what this mass revelation of documents is going to do. The essential tool of State Department diplomacy is trust between American officials and their foreign counterparts. Unlike the Pentagon, which has military forces, or the Treasury Department, which has financial tools, the State Department functions mainly by winning the trust of foreign officials, sharing information, and persuading. Those discussions have to be confidential to be successful. Destroying confidentiality means destroying diplomacy.
And destroying diplomacy means that fewer international conflicts will be resolved diplomatically (in both senses of the term). That, in turn, means they will either be left to fester unaddressed, or will be resolved militarily.
Put aside for a moment that Wikileaks has, in all likelihood, contributed to the deaths - or at the very least, the self-exiling - of innocent civilians in Afghanistan. But don't take my word for it; the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff agrees. So direct casualties aside, it seems that a world with more military conflict is one that Moore would rather avoid. He certainly fits the "hard left" description Rubin mentions, and he spent much of his Daily Beast column bemoaning various military conflicts.
So is Moore ignorant of the obvious realities of foreign policy and of Assange's motives themselves? Or does he share Assange's belief that the American diplomatic community is part of an "authoritarian conspiracy" and his desire for a total breakdown of US foreign policy?
With his record of statements like this one, I'd say either is possible. Let us know in the comments which one you think is more likely.
*****UPDATE– By the MRC's Scott Whitlock:
Michael Moore also seriously asserted that if WikiLeaks existed in 2001, it could have prevented the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He insisted, "I ask you to imagine how much different our world would be if WikiLeaks had existed 10 years ago." [emphasis added.]
Moore then referred to the Presidential Daily Briefing [PDB] that then President Bush recieved in August of 2001: "But if that document had been leaked, how would you or I have reacted? What would Congress or the FAA have done? Was there not a greater chance that someone, somewhere would have done something if all of us knew about bin Laden's impending attack using hijacked planes?"
National Review's Jim Geraghty explained the implausibility of this charge:
[The PDB] did indeed mention hijackings. It also mentioned bin Laden encouraged an attack on LAX, that bin Laden wanted to use a hijacking to secure the release of "blind sheik" Umar Abd al-Rahman, possible surveillance of federal buildings of New York, and 70 FBI field investigations that are bin-Laden investigated and a call in to a U.S. embassy about an attack involving explosives. If you could stop the 19 hijackers based on that mix of generic accurate and inaccurate information, you’re psychic. Even the left-of-center comic strip Tom the Dancing Bug mocked politicians like Tom Daschle who claimed they could have stopped the threat if they had the chance to see the same information at the time.
I hope everybody who paid money to watch one of his documentaries feels proud right now.
Not shockingly, Moore will be a guest on Tuesday's Countdown With Keith Olbermann.
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Comments
Poor Michael..........
Submitted by NC Cop on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 4:17pm.
If facts were calories, he'd be the smartest man in the world!!!!
Michael Moore - Um mm Mum
Submitted by acaiguana on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 4:20pm.
For a fat kid he don't smell too bad.
That's my compliment for the guy.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
IMHO I feel Moore now feels
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 4:21pm.
IMHO I feel Moore now feels similarly to Assange in regards to bringing down the U.S. government. It would not surprise me if Moore is contemplating making a documentary on Assange and the secrets Assange has been exposing. Moore's in it for the money first and doesn't care who he damages in the process. Moore's motivation is simple: greed.
Your Spot on
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:21am.
in your assesment on Moore, for someone who feels people like Murdock, Gates, and others are far too wealthy and should pay alot more in Taxes but somehow always fails to inlcude himself into the mix of having to pay more than those at the bottom of the food chain then maybe all the money he plans to make off following, bailing and supporting Mr. Assuage should be donated to charities like Doctors without Borders or someother Charity that supports our Military wouldn't you say. Every F$%^ing red Cents he earns should be donated, then and only then he to should be taken down for his role playing with his dear Friend Assuage !!! How can people reap the benfits of such a Great place to live then become a turncoat, I'll never fully understand !!
Silly, silly men.
Submitted by shilohcool on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 4:27pm.
Silly, silly men.
The fact of the matter is
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 4:54pm.
The fact of the matter is that releasing these so called sensitive documents of America's dealings with friend & foe around the world are proving to be a much bigger problem with the others involved, not the United States.
Turns out all the assumed treachery & evil carried out by US against the rest of the world is either non existent or in some cases welcomed and or encouraged with open arms by our sworn enemies.
I think it's rather funny that someone spying on and exposing America's secrets is lauded by the losers, liberals, anarchists of the world as a hero, while for all intents & purposes given a pass by the current socialist administration ( regime ) in Washington.
One has to wonder if punks like Assange, Moore-on, NewsWEAK, Time, MSNBC, CBS and the other co conspiritors would be so eager to expose themselves if the secrets of Russia, China, Iran or some other piece of crap country had been stolen and leaked for all the world to see........I think not.
As much as these un-American douchebags scream bloody murder about what this country sacrifices daily in blood & treasure to keep them relatively safe while doing so, they only do so because America ( for now ) is the only truely safe place on earth to live and raise a family.
If you need proof that what I'm saying is the God's honest truth, just look at how many of those disgruntled assholes like Moore-on, Baldwin, Penn, etc. are eminating to those wonderful socialist countries they want this country to become...........NOT ONE.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Yes, we want a more "open" government, whistle blowers, etc
Submitted by krendler on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 5:15pm.
...which is why the left also celebrated Scooter Libby as a hero for his supposed "outing" of the CIA's Valerie Plame. The more information, the better, right, everybody? Thank goodness for brave people like Scotty Libby who speak truth to power. LOL.
Oh, wait. The left villified Libby, even though he wasn't the one who outed Plame.
Mikey knows
Submitted by Tjexcite on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 5:17pm.
Who Assange is and his leaning is. MM know that socialists support assange. He knows where he gets his money from and it is anti-American communist. They have more in common than any two people could. MM is a socialist.
We are not dealing with just left thinking people any more. They what to fundamentally transform the world so that there is only one side and it is theirs with no other.
Nothing But Greed
Submitted by RealVet on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 5:32pm.
$20K - pretty cheap from a corporate "fat cat" for a down payment on movie rights.
Good point
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 6:04pm.
And probably tax deductible as as business expense.
Michael Moore is the Jane
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 5:36pm.
Michael Moore is the Jane Fonda of his generation, a traitor filled with self-importance but no real knowledge of the world.
Michael Moore is the Jane
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 7:30pm.
Michael Moore is the Jane Fonda of his generationThe thought of Mikey doing the gravity-free striptease at the beginning of Barbarella just made me throw up in my mouth.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Turds of a feather flock together
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 6:03pm.
Assange and Moore are basically cut from the same cloth. It's no surprise that Moore would post bail for Assange, or even any given terrorist for that matter.
I would suggest
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 1:08am.
extruded from the same orifices.
It's only a matter of time
Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 6:11pm.
It's only a matter of time before Wikileaks releases secret documents that tick off some other country who will have a higher likelihood of taking physical action again Assange.
My enemy's enemy...
Submitted by Dan Diego on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 8:51pm.
I think Russia, China and Cuba all supported the dirt bag. If he gets anything on them he probably turns over on his source so the leak(er) can be plugged.I thought this malaka was at
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 6:18pm.
I thought this malaka was at fat camp. 20 large? That's it? Well, we can add "cheap pr1ck" to his list of accomplishments.
How does it feel to be forced to buy relevence, cheese boy?
Fat Boy Moore....
Submitted by adamsmith on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:32am.
He's supposedly one of the cheapest pigs on the planet. I think goes so far as to hiring non-union help so he can save. Personally I'd like to see him explode while eating Bar-B-Que, a big fat greezy "poke sammich" smothered in hot sauce so he gets agita before the actual explosion. When that happens the only thing I'll have to say is, "See, there is a God"......I hope someone catches it on a cel camera so I can watch it over and over on YouTube.....
I cannot understand for the
Submitted by misterbee241 on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 6:24pm.
I cannot understand for the life of me, how an unshaven, uneducated bum like Moore, who was made what he is today because of the freedom we enjoy as Americans, can hate America so much. In a real world, he'd be hanging out at the unemployment office waiting for his next check to go buy his beer or sleeping under a bridge someplace with newspapers as cover nursing a bottle of Thunderbird. Instead in the America he despises he's an influential "film maker" and multi-millionaire. Go figure.
If things keep going the way they are in this country, the people Moore professes to love (communists/socialists) will be the first to stand him up against a wall and give him a cigarette and a blindfold, because his time as a useful idiot will be over.
Michael Moore sure seems to
Submitted by Kat Outta the Bag on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 7:25pm.
Michael Moore sure seems to hate America, but it's nothing compared to my hatred of idiots like him!
Moore is NO Different than the Obama's
Submitted by Retired Geek on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 8:02pm.
Many in America are like Michelle Obama and have never been 'Proud of America' until Barack Obama was elected president.
Liberal Progressives are ashamed of America and hate the words 'American Exceptionalism' almost, but NOT quite as much as they hate the words 'Personal Responsibility'.
Another term hated, vilified, abhorred by Liberal Progressives is 'Equal Rights' for every Legal American Citizen.
Liberal Progressives feel intuitively that there can be NO Social Justice, if every legal American Citizen had the exact same 'Rights and Protections' - no more - no less.
Liberal Progressives believe that only unequal rights and unequal protections bring equality of 'Rights and Protections' to the American Citizenry.
America is Exceptional, in fact America is the most Exceptional Nation in the History of Mankind.
I have watched this video several times and it is the most uplifting Political Message I have ever seen or heard (I plan to watch it several more times).
The Video is about America's Exceptionalism.
Watch this Video and it will give you Strength, Hope and Courage to continue the War that was declared against America by the 'Hate America' Liberal Progressives and their Marxist Dictator Wannabe - Barack Obama.
This 'American Exceptionalism Video is only 11 minutes and 50 seconds long and you will watch it more than once and want everyone you care about to watch it as well.
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2010/12/bill-whittle-what-conservatives-believe.html
Just like Al Sharpton shows
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 8:15pm.
Just like Al Sharpton shows up when there's a racial controversy, so too, it's no surprise when Michael Moore shows up when there's something to embarrass or hurt the US.
showing up
Submitted by Agnostic on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 8:20pm.
and to be fair - Just like Brent Bozell shows up when there is something to censure.
Not saying I always disagree with his positions but that is when I usually hear/read about him.
Okaaaay - this was one reply
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 8:32pm.
Okaaaay - this was one reply I wasn't anticipating.
Like we needed more evidence
Submitted by Darasen on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 10:43pm.
Like we needed more evidence that Moore is an anti-american sack of crap.
Agnostic
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 11:07pm.
Not sure of your post regarding Bozell. An organization like MRC probably has a "task" assignment manager for their staff. Just to make sure, I did a quick view of the archives.
Mathew Balan.*..Most of his articles involve current notables in the news or involve issues like religion. The main theme of all of his articles is MEDIA BIAS.
Lachlan Markay...Most of his articles involve global warming,economy and current political issues with the major theme of comparing these subjects to MEDIA BIAS.
Mathew Sheffield...Most of his articles covered the activities of far left groups, whackos, and how the MSM cover these stories exposing their MEDIA BIAS.
Noel Sheppard.*..The majoriy of his articles tend to cover a wide range of subjects comparing MEDIA BIAS often with a sense of humor and mocking and exposing the idiots.
Brent Bozell...ALL of his articles are on MSM false reports, silence and MEDIA BIAS regarding THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
It seems to me, the various writers have assigned tasks but all with a common goal.EXPOSING LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS. These "task assignments" seem to be management program found among most large organizations.
Perusing, had nothing else to do since the New NB is so difficult to navigate!
Wait, so we're now back to
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 11:59pm.
Wait, so we're now back to being told that the secret memo of August 2001 should have prevented 9/11? In otherwords we're supposed to believe the "Bush Knew!" crap we were spoonfed in 2004?
I seem to remember that as soon as that myth was debunked by releasing the memo and exposing how it contained nothing of relevance, the 9/11 truthers really started to gain in traction.
Basically we went from "Bush knew!" to "Bush caused 9/11!", but are we now back to "Bush knew!" because of how the 9/11 truthers are such a joke?
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This Asshole Moore has
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:24am.
also offered up his server to aid in Assuage quest to shut down our Gov't and put our Military at risk of there own personal lives along with Millions of innocent lives abroad, OMFG !!!! Moore should be extradicted out of the coutnry and his citzenship revoked ASAP !!!
After a long stint in a
Submitted by Dan Diego on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:34am.
After a long stint in a federal pen for aiding and abetting.
"Moore then referred to the
Submitted by dirtydan64 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 12:34am.
"Moore then referred to the Presidential Daily Briefing [PDB] that then President Bush recieved in August of 2001, That states Bin Laden was going to fly hijacked planes into Buildings" Moore on Olberman tag's Bush in a photo saying this is a pic of Bush reciving this Confidential Cable then goes fishing for 4 weeks.... Really Moore you have that much inside info to know the pic you had Olberman throw up on the TV screen is directly linked to your statement above, Really you mooreon !!!Moore on Olbermann
Submitted by djwolf12 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 1:58am.
There is plenty of flesh bobbing all around in that reach-around interview. They are gonna need a whole case of vaseline.
Olbergoebbels and Fat Bastard
Submitted by adamsmith on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:36am.
I'll bet a grand the maid quits on site......
Of course Moore supports this guy.
Submitted by Phryj1 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 1:37am.
Assange is either tinfoil hat crazy and is so paranoid he sees "authoritarian conspiracy" any time the government needs to keep secrets for national security purposes, or he's willfully attempting to undermine the United States government's effectiveness in diplomatic, military, and intelligence areas. In either case, I'm sure Moore sees him as a kindred spirit with mutual goals and aspirations. You'll also notice neither Moore nor Assange seem to have any problem with the authoritarian aspects and backroom deals regarding health care reform and Cap and Tax. No surprise there, One would get the impression that they are really all about removing any barriers to the radical leftist agenda, or would it be paranoia on my part to suggest that?
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Not surprising...
Submitted by Patriot II on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:06am.
Moore is ignorant of EVERYTHING!!!
I can guarantee
Submitted by theduck6 on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:07am.
this is just because not a soul has mentioned the buffoon in a few months. He is buying relevence and PR ,even if it is bad PR.
Ironic that this beast who searches for transparency is best know for factually inaccurate crockumentaries that has a cottage industry around them listing his misrepresentations, out of context film clips and outright lies.
Hope Assange skips town and he loses his bail.