A columnist for the UK Guardian wants to save the Earth by thinning the ranks of humans that are a cruel blight upon it. By his account, population control is the only viable solution to the destruction of the planet.
"The worst thing you or I can so for the planet is to have children" writes the Guardian's Alex Renton, who advocated in a Sunday column an ambiguous system of system of carrots and sticks to get the developed world to stop reproducing.
Renton cannot contain his loathing of the developed world. "One less British child would permit some 30 women in sub-Saharan Africa to have a baby and still leave the planet a cleaner place," he writes. Renton adds that "a cull of Australians or Americans would be at least 60 times as productive as one of Bangladeshis."
Interesting that Renton used the word cull, which the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary defines thus: "to reduce or control the size of (as a herd) by removal (as by hunting) of especially weaker animals; also : to hunt or kill (animals) as a means of population control."
Renton's suggestion that we "cull" developed nations is quite sinister. His word choice--"a cull," instead of, say, "policies to incentivize single-child households"--should cause the reader to worry. Assuming he knows the definition of the word, he is proposing that we thin populations through coercive, potentially violent, and necessarily morally corrupt means.
Though Renton stopped short of openly proposing the forceful one-child policy of China's communist regime, he praised the policy as "the most successful governmental attempt to preserve the world’s resources so far." His solutions are, in his own words, less "draconian," and include carbon offsets for reproductive restraint.
Could children perhaps become part of an adult's personal carbon allowance? Could you offer rewards: have one child only and you may fly to Florida once a year?
Yes, how benevolent. Restrict your earth-destroying procreative tendencies, and you will be allowed to take a vacation. How generous of this theoretical super-state to permit vacations for those who stop destroying Mother Earth by restricting our natural human need to continue our species.
This absurd suggestion is at least less violent in nature, but that word "cull" continues to bother the reader who knows its definition--and what it would entail in practice.
Considering the growth rates for the US and the UK are below one--0.98 and 0.28, respectively--Renton is not actually advocating the slowing of population growth in his country, but rather the thinning of the developed world's population. He wishes to see fewer Americans and fewer Englishmen on the planet. Renton sees the prosperous human race as a blight upon the Earth that must be stopped for the good of dear Gaia.
Editor at Large
Comments Policy
only thing to say about this
October 26, 2009 - 12:22 ET by jon_torlinThere's really only one thing to say about this:
YOU FIRST!
Come on, there's not that many people in the US and UK compared to India and China. I'd like to see these jokers go over there and say the same thing, see how long they last!
-Jon
How quickly their
October 26, 2009 - 13:35 ET by notonmywatchHow quickly their "pro-choice" euphemism has given way to the true "PRO-DEATH" facts!
It is a conservative's duty to have 5+ blessingful children, to make the world a better place.
Let liberals wipe themselves out with infertility. We must fill that void! Seriously!
___________________________________________________________
Graphical conservative commentary - animations & pictures for posting on forums: http://ubama.org/chu...
Yep!
October 26, 2009 - 17:37 ET by Thinking.ManLead by example you lefturd.
Might I suggest hanging yourself on live TV?
We will await the video and then reconsider your arguments, until then shut the heck up.
Nah, that's so mean of you
October 27, 2009 - 02:12 ET by CO2MakerLet him live. Just ask him to cut his own d*ck off, an act of self-bobbitting, circumcision-to-the-max.
"The worst thing you or I
October 26, 2009 - 12:29 ET by MightyMouth"The worst thing you or I can so for the planet is to have children"
Speaking for himself, no truer words were ever written or spoken. Talk about the epitome of arrogance!
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
She's English, right?
October 26, 2009 - 12:41 ET by SlyrrIf killing English people will save the planet, why doesn't this guy throw himself off the cliffs at Dover and do us all a favor? If these enviro-wackos are so eager to kill humans, and are so terrified of a global warming apocolypse, why don't they all just drink some poisoned kool-aid or something? Why don't they lead by example and kill themselves?
Those of us who truly care about this planet and it's stewardship will stay behind and clean up the mess.
The use of the word 'cull' is no accident. Yes, it sounds like 'kill', and yes, the meaning is exactly the same. The dictionary defines it plainly: to reduce or control the size of (as a herd) by removal (as by hunting) of especially weaker animals; also : to hunt or kill (animals) as a means of population control"
I remember it being used in the radio dramatization of Star Wars, when Leia and her father were having dinner with an imperial officer to try and get information out of him.
Officer: 'Well, I'd like to visit your continent of Than and take part in the hunting.'
Sen. Organa: 'Hunting? Theres' no hunting on Aldaraan.'
Officer: 'Come, come - I have it from good sources that your wild life services will be thinning out the herds.'
Sen. Organa: 'They will only be culling out animals who are too weak to survive the winter. The forage will be scarce this season.'
Officer: 'Well... someone has to do the actual 'culling' as you call it!' (laughs)
Leia: 'And that's how you spend your holiday? Executing weak animals??'
This would be the ultimate liberal wet dream - a world government body decreeing that developed nations have to send X percentage of their population to the gas chambers. And liberal wackos being the ones who decide who are 'culled'. Anyone wanna bet that NO liberals will be 'culled', and conservatives will be required to submit to death 'for beloved mother Gaea'?
It's always the same - these liberal fools want to slaughter their enemies as brutally and mercilessly as any tyrant in history - yes, including Hitler - and disguise it with the language of compassion and tolerance. This is raw, raving insanity folks - and they're only going to get worse until they actually start killing people.
If killing English people
October 26, 2009 - 12:47 ET by Jack BauerAnd if he survives, no worries.
The British socialist National Health Service will finish him off el pronto.
ROFL!!
October 26, 2009 - 12:48 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM -- as the mighty Homer
October 26, 2009 - 13:03 ET by Jack BauerMM -- as the mighty Homer Simpson would say.. It's funny cos it's true!
Also the support of
October 27, 2009 - 01:52 ET by CO2MakerOMAs, the AMA, yogis who chant AAOM, and let's not forget MBAs (but probably not President Bush).
:-)
We're 6th in per
October 26, 2009 - 13:55 ET by danboWe're 6th in per capita CO2 from fossil fuels. Australia 7th. UK is something like 25th or so.
Is this yahoo complaining about everyone else? Like Quatar. More than twice the US per capita. Luxembourg # 5. Kazakhstan #13, Estonia #11.
Maybe they just hate English speaking countries. You missed Canada at #8. Just being helpfull.
We all need to follow the example of Mali. Last place. But what's their lives like? Lifespan?
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
Koo koo
October 26, 2009 - 12:33 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsSo I guess God . . . .
"Be fruitful and multiply."
is culpable in the destruction of His creation, Earth.
And, of course, the 'earth firsters' are smarter than God.
D
Write your Congress and Senate and tell them what YOU think!
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
Ok, 'splain this to me...
October 26, 2009 - 12:34 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonWas this column written earlier and posted posthumuously?
Or is this preaching to the 'do as I say, but don't make me follow my own garbage' type of thing?
My suggestion would be to try it first, then get back to us on the outcome.
http://gjresult.com
You expect Warmers to live
October 26, 2009 - 13:57 ET by danboYou expect Warmers to live as they preach?
You expect people like Thomas Friedman to go back to his Carbon Friendly home, after they lecture the rest of us?
Warmers are above that. They expect you to get rid of your car, stop flying and kill yourself. Not them.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
→ Lemmings
October 26, 2009 - 12:36 ET by Cool ArrowBack around 1973, National Lampoon put out an album lampooning Woodstock, the Woodchuck Festival, featuring John Belushi and Chevy Chase, among others (pre SNL).
The theme of the album was the need for humans to commit suicide rather than continue their abuse of the planet.
Today we actually have humans embracing this silly notion.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
So, if the point is that
October 26, 2009 - 12:37 ET by Blix AmericaSo, if the point is that getting rid of people would be good for the planet then we should embrace global warming and speed it along so as to hasten our ultimate demise. ….no?
http://blixamerica.blogspot.com/
Interesting example
October 26, 2009 - 12:37 ET by UndercoverConservative" Renton adds that "a cull of Australians or Americans would be at least 60 times as productive as one of Bangladeshis.""
And what's the prominent religious, social and political doctrine of Bangladesh?
http://wiki.answers....
Translation:
"A 60-1 birth ratio of Muslims to Infidels means we breed you out of existence much faster than we're doing now. We will be able to use your own satanic government systems, a.k.a. "unenforced immigration law" and "voting" to force our way of life much sooner. We can also crank out jihadis suicide bombers faster than you can build Predators, which you will fail to utilize due to the new ROE's that "public opinion" (there's that 60-1 benefit again) forced your cowardly leaders to enact."
We're being screwed..or out-screwed. :(
WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)
Idiots
October 26, 2009 - 12:38 ET by richb313Idiots, people are part of the environment. They are the most important part. Who would care what the environment was if it were not for people. Idiots.
It's rolling around in there but it's not coming through
October 26, 2009 - 14:12 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonEnvironmentalism: The compost heap of humanity.
It needs work, somebody tune it up and present it properly.
http://gjresult.com
Environmentalism: Dirt trumps life.
October 26, 2009 - 14:22 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Just Like Al Qaeda
October 26, 2009 - 12:49 ET by mattm"He wishes to see fewer Americans and fewer Englishmen on the planet."
I wish to see fewer moronic Gaia worshippers and other assorted liberal whackos on the planet - why shouldn't my wishes carry at least as much weight - I'm far less of a lunatic than this nutcase.....
Just saying
October 26, 2009 - 12:50 ET by MaytagMakes ya wonder if conspiracy theory about h1n1 vac. has some basis . Kills kids to early 20's lots of offspring gone in future? Makes ya think Clancey's Rainbow 6 is coming . Whitehouse creating panic raising threat. Just saying. Panic makes more people get shots
I read this book awhile ago,
October 27, 2009 - 06:22 ET by kangarooI read this book awhile ago, where the bad guys had the same idea and created this flu. If it didn't kill ya, it left you sterilized.
hmmm
October 26, 2009 - 13:07 ET by ginagwen7this article makes me want to have some more babies, so I can raise them with some sense and outnumber these earth-worshipping loonies
Holdren Too?
October 26, 2009 - 13:36 ET by slickwillie2001Doesn't the Bamster's ghoulish Science Czar John Holdren believe the same things, and he's in the US government?
First things first
October 26, 2009 - 13:36 ET by cajun2I need to be appointed "Cull Czar" and I am looking for support from all you posters. I already have a loooong list of names so when appointed, I can get right to work.
The lady with the sign
October 26, 2009 - 13:41 ET by jkwtradingThe lady with the sign could go first.
I am expecting more of this type of rhetoric to occur in the next 6 months..and maybe even serious thought to implement it..
as the divide becomes greater left and right, I'd expect the left to be the suggester of the culling but actually want the right (conservative) to be the ones eliminated.
The strange thing about
October 26, 2009 - 14:39 ET by radiofitz34The strange thing about this global warming /population control histeria is that actual humans are the ones proposing these drastic measures. Frankly, I have about had it with this global warming routine. I mean whose feet are we supposed to kiss and who do we have to shoot? The global warming "lovers" can go on with their delusions. Just don't expect any help from me.
Fitz
Thier logic or analytical
October 26, 2009 - 15:37 ET by jkwtradingThier logic or analytical reasoning is quite flawed... the purpose of save the planet is so humans survive. To kill humans to save a piece of ground is 180 degrees backwards.
"So I guess God . . .
October 26, 2009 - 14:41 ET by chessplayer"So I guess God . . . .
"Be fruitful and multiply."
is culpable in the destruction of His creation, Earth."
The quote does`nt say "Be fruitful and multiply until your numbers are so great the earth can no longer support you and the rest of my creation is killed off."
Just how many people do you think this planet can support,,,all living the throw-away lifestyle of the US? 100 billion? 500 billion? A trillion? Yes, lets be fruitful and multiply until all other life on this planet is killed off to make room for us. What a lovely world that would be to exist in, eh? The Guardian columnist is a jerk, but so are a lot of conservatives on this topic. There is no middle ground on this anymore. On the one extreme are libs who want to resort to culling the population. On the other extreme are conservatives who could`nt care less if our numbers grow so large the earth can`t support any other life and say thats what God wants.
I did not see him say what
October 26, 2009 - 15:10 ET by MaximusBraveheartI did not see him say what you are accusing him of: "Be fruitful and multiply until your numbers are so great the earth can
no longer support you and the rest of my creation is killed off."
He nor conservatives are being a "jerk" on this subject. I do not think the facts back up what you feel. WE are having too few kids! It is Muslims that are taking over by having huge families. Where is your complaint to them? In France fertility rate is 1.8 vs. 8.1 for Muslims. 30 times more Muslims in the UK vs. 30 yrs. ago.
EU may be an Islamic republic in our lifetime w/o a shot fired... Pass on this Fertility rate info and why Christians need to have kids too : http://www.youtube.c...
M-B
How many people can live on the earth?
October 27, 2009 - 02:04 ET by CO2MakerIf you housed everyone alive today in a 4-person, single-family dwelling (not apartment buildings), built on a 2.9 acre lot, it would occupy an area the size of Texas. Don't take my word for it, take Walter Williams'.
Population Control Nonsense
Renton is a well established
October 26, 2009 - 14:44 ET by celatorRenton is a well established member of the leftists' eugenics movement--which has been around for at least 100 years.
The thing to keep in mind about these nutjobs is that they believe the world has just the right number of them, but much too many of the rest of us.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
100 years?
October 26, 2009 - 21:39 ET by Dan DiegoDid Renton learn eugenics from his parents?
Alex Renton: "The worst
October 26, 2009 - 15:08 ET by deerjerkydaveAlex Renton: "The worst thing you or I can so for the planet is to have children."
Finally, some honesty from the green movement. Renton sums up the only logical goal of the green movement. It explains EVERYTHING they do. It is an anti-humanist movement which I do not want to be a part of.
Unfortunately it is permeating our society like a cancer. My kindergartner has "walk to school day" every week in order to save the planet from evil people, especially evil Americans. Kids who walk to school are rewarded. We still drive him to school anyway.
Agree. Government schools
October 26, 2009 - 15:15 ET by MaximusBraveheartAgree. Government schools need to be reined in on this green religious movement. Ok to be green but not like the religion they teach which is based on non-scientific lies.
AND so why doesn't her sign say shoot ME? They can all gather together in a big gala and invite their terrorist friends to have their wish granted? Will that be IED, suicide bomber or cyanide?
M-B
I have a better solution:
October 26, 2009 - 15:31 ET by ckc1227I have a better solution: cull those who push global warming, and "poof", just like that, global warming will cease to exist.
Would-Be Murderers
October 26, 2009 - 15:52 ET by justbob223These people are so blindly fanatical about their "environmentalism" and worship of Mother Earth/Gaia that they would have no qualms engaging in mass murder if they had the power. While some may laugh at them for their ignorance, stupidity, and sense of moral superiority, they are dangerous people.
The only difference between
October 26, 2009 - 19:07 ET by deerjerkydaveThe only difference between a socialist and communist is a socialist is too afraid to touch a gun and pull a trigger to achieve his ends. Instead socialists murder and enslave people through their anti-humanist policies. The ban on DDT is a crime against humanity, all to appease the green gods. Do I even have to mention abortion?
http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.442/healthissue_detail.asp
Cull those whom heat their homes with electricity.
October 26, 2009 - 17:16 ET by upcountrywaterOne more attack on coal fired power plants.
EPA Regional Recommends All 79 Mountaintop Removal Permits for Further Review
After a 14-day initial review period, the Environmental Protection
Agency’s regional offices followed the lead of EPA headquarters,
recommending that all 79 pending mountaintop removal mining valley fill
permits be remanded into a full 60-day extended review process.
Go ahead and make only one national electrical grid.... Then everyone will be without power.....at the same time.
Remember your gas fired furance.. Has an electrical control.
-50 F does not discriminate.
State controlled health care is Tort Reform. Update! music video.
Illogical
October 26, 2009 - 19:43 ET by nadadhimmiThe libtards are incapable of even following their own dictates to their natural conclusion. Yes, if they killed themselves, they would "save" the planet. They won't kill themselves, so they HATE the planet. They are cowardly, polluting, Gaia destroying pieces of human waste. Every breath they take, expelling their disgusting co2, excreteing their noxious methane gas farts, taking the very carbon of their bodies from the plants of the Earth, leads to destruction of the environment and Planet. Shame on them for not commiting suicide.
Gee Hitler has same idea
October 27, 2009 - 01:09 ET by jkwtradingGee Hitler has same idea except he only wanted to dismantle slovaks, jews and russians to save Germany..She wants to dismantle half the world to save it..
Eliminating Westerners
October 27, 2009 - 06:10 ET by Blogger Guy00001This idiotic comment isn't about population control. It's about reducing the number of Christians, Jews and Whites. Just typical liberal hatred for Western Civilization.