The White House is stepping up its attacks against the Fox News Channel, labeling it a bastion of stilted and opinionated journalism. A top administration communications official has called the Fox "opinion journalism masquerading as news," and vowed to wage a war of ideas against the network.
Speaking with Time Magazine, White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said that the administration intends to be "more aggressive rather than just sit back and defend ourselves, because they will say anything. They will take any small thing and distort it."
The White House blog has begun singling out and taking on the cable news network. Recent blog posts carry pejorative headlines such as "Fox Lies," and "even more Fox lies." Time calls Dunn the "general" of this anti-Fox campaign.
White House bloggers have focused the most attention on Fox prime time host Glenn Beck. They have derided his "disregard for the facts" and his "attempt to smear" the administration for, among other things, lobbying the Olympic Committee for the 2016 games.
Surely every president has to endure his share of intense criticism from those in the media establishment that disagree with him or his policies. So scathing critiques of the office are nothing new.
Dunn, Gibbs, and the left's anti-Fox crusaders would have Americans believe that the sort of 'opinion journalism' they are combating is somehow confined to the right; that conservatives, unlike liberals, will "take any small thing and distort it." But the left certainly has its share of network television shills.
Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, David Shuster, and Chris Matthews, among others, have all partaken in too many instances of journalistic malfeasance and pro-Obama pontificating to list here. My esteemed colleagues here at NewsBusters have documented scores of such instances.
So criticism of the president is nothing new, and it is non-partisan (that is, both sides engage in it). So why the sudden interest in countering messages from the right that can damage Obama or throw him off message?
It is apparent that the White House feels there is some new necessity in firing a shot across the bow of potential critics. The nature of Obama's agenda cannot alone account for this necessity. Though Obama's legislative proposals are certainly vast in scope and scale, every president attempts to enact changes that inevitably spur intense opposition.
It is not the novel nature of the Obama administration that is forcing the White House to ramp up its message machine. Rather, it is the size and force of the opposition that requires Obama's team to root out and attempt to discredit all potentially damaging messages from the media.
Criticism of Democratic officials is nothing new for Fox News. But Fox is giving its liberal media competition a run for its money like never before. It is absolutely destroying CNN and MSNBC in the prime time ratings.
For instance, during Monday prime time, Fox News had almost four times as many viewers than CNN, and three times as many as MSNBC. During the 5 PM slot, Glenn Beck had roughly four times as many viewers as Wolf Blitzer, and almost five times as many as Chris Matthews. At 8 PM, Bill O'Reilly had more than five times as many viewers as CNN's Campbell brown, and more than three times as many as MSNBC's Keith Olbermann.
The administration tried over the summer to doctor town hall meetings with plants in the audience and pre-screened questions. Helen Thomas, not exactly an outspoken conservative, likened this media manipulation to the Nixon administration's attempts to control the press. "What the hell do they think we are, puppets?" she asked.
Whatever the administration expects from the press, it is clear that Fox is not playing ball. The administration's extreme response to the network--its incessant attacks on Glenn Beck, and the network generally--indicate that it is concerned about the potential sway Fox and its personalities could have on public opinion. It remains to be seen whether other networks will notice the trend, articulated by Thomas, or whether they will remain on the White House bandwagon.
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Attacks on FOX NEWS
October 8, 2009 - 16:14 ET by ww thumperThe day will come when the White House nut Jobs will wish they had left Fox alone .............. When you elect a communist for your President... don't be surprised when Communisem breakes out!... WW
Gaydar
October 8, 2009 - 17:21 ET by Irene FlickWatch out for too much bravado on this issue. I bet the Venezuelan media also understimated Chavez's verbal attacks on the private radio and television stations. My gaydar tells me Obama and Chavez have some pillow talk going back and forth on how to 'work' together. Remember how awkward the hug at the banquet?
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS!
And, yes, I am shouting.
You are exactly right thumper and Irene...
October 8, 2009 - 17:41 ET by Army BratThis is exactly the kind of crap that came out of the mouth of Chavez and crew when the media there did not toe the line.
Truth is the enemy of tyranny...of tyrants. And Obama and the Bots don't like Truth one damned bit. Spread it!
We have been betrayed, lied to and lied about by the MSM for too long. Witness the election of the anti-American Marxist to the office of POTUS!
Change must come and the people are the only source for that change.
Obama is a liar and Truth is killing his Marxist agenda.
The media
October 8, 2009 - 18:01 ET by 10ksnookerIs always short sighted, never can see the divide and conquer strategy until they are cooked.
The lesson here is it's best to stick with the truth instead of trying to con people. In the Internet age the con doesn't even start.
Sems to me that if they
October 9, 2009 - 11:02 ET by Jerry MackSems to me that if they believe that Fox News is not telling the truth then they should name specific instantces. I have not seen any evidence of this bias. The two that they are out to get are Beck nad Hannity.
The real problem is they are use to having the media gush good about the Messiah.
To coin a phrase: "Bring it
October 8, 2009 - 16:15 ET by QueenMumTo coin a phrase: "Bring it on."
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
The Thought Police are out
October 8, 2009 - 16:17 ET by mattmThe Thought Police are out in force in this fascist administration.
It seems all Fox is
October 8, 2009 - 16:18 ET by BuffNBoneIt seems all Fox is attempting to do is help the administration fulfill its campaign "promise" of a more open and transparent government.
If Ms. Dunn would care to cite a few examples, it would go a long way to supporting her position.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
That's a liberal tactic:
October 8, 2009 - 17:34 ET by motherbeltThat's a liberal tactic: they spout generalities like "opinion journalism masquerading as news" and "...they will say anything. They will take any small thing and distort it."
They never, however, cite an example, because these statements are always made in a press release (so there are no opportunities for questions), or to favorable media, such as Time, where they know they will not be asked to provide specifics or examples.
Thus they sow an idea, which will be repeated by their media accomplices.
Yep, transparency
October 8, 2009 - 18:02 ET by 10ksnookerAnd openess you would think they would be proud.
I bet Axlerod told FNC's Ailes 'we will destroy you' or some such. Don't you?
Examples, exactly........
October 8, 2009 - 20:07 ET by Mike in AZOne of the most common ways of disparaging an opponent is to generalize the attack - NO SPECIFICS! Of course, the msM would never dare challenge anyone in the White House to get specific on such a charge, i.e., lying; especially when the White House is bashing its most despised enemy - FOX. I can only hope that there are enough intelligent people who regularly pay attention to what's going on, who see through this truly amateur attempt to smear the only "mainstream" media outlet that would dare to ask tough, specific questions.
Fox must be getting things
October 8, 2009 - 16:18 ET by FeynmanFanFox must be getting things right because the closer one gets to the truth, the harder the liberals will fight when it doesn't suit their purposes.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Ms. Dunn
October 8, 2009 - 16:22 ET by jacktheripperBe careful what you wish for...this is a battle you do not want to fight!
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
I agree
October 8, 2009 - 16:45 ET by onelove4891I agree, soo much for reaching across the aisles!?? Fox news has proven that they have higher ratings.
This president is proving that he hasn't got the guts to face his critics, and the mere fact that other networks haven't reported on this is a travesty in itself.
Wow
October 8, 2009 - 17:13 ET by KC MulvilleAccording to reports, Obama is willing to work with the Taliban. But he can't work with FoxNews.
They're so tough when they know that the opponent can't fight back. Let's hear Obama issue a "call 'em out" against Putin.
BHO vs Freedom of the
October 8, 2009 - 16:22 ET by d1carterBHO vs Freedom of the Press, well some of the press. They are okay with NBC...
Fox News must be doing a pretty good job if the thugs in the WH are whining.
crybabies indeed !!!
October 8, 2009 - 16:23 ET by jacktheripper"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
Really isn't the bribe
October 8, 2009 - 16:25 ET by BuffNBoneReally isn't the bribe with other peoples' money?
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
bribes
October 8, 2009 - 17:10 ET by mkjNo, actually, the quote is correct. They ARE trying to bribe us with our own money. That's where the government gets it's money - from us, the taxpayer.
I think I'm paying more
October 8, 2009 - 17:18 ET by BuffNBoneI think I'm paying more than I'm getting. At the time de Tocqueville made the statement the country had a limited dole but it didn't have the entitlement ethic it has now. There are more efficient ways than the government to give to those in need.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Of course they are concerned!
October 8, 2009 - 16:25 ET by donsalimanIf they are concerned,it is because Fox News is getting it right and so far the WH has not proved that Fox News is wrong.
It also proves that Obama is thin skinned,the nerve of being criticized by the "lower class"
So Fox news has hit a sore spot,good for them.
Yep
October 8, 2009 - 17:52 ET by 10ksnookerIt's called truth.
Can you imagine if the Bush White House did the same thing against the wee weed up liars at PSMNBC?
Got ya!
October 8, 2009 - 16:25 ET by StarAZThe minute they say tired old stuff like, "they will say anything" or "I just know what they are like," I know they don't watch. Maybe the WH could not see some flicks and review them....
Crikeys the bloody
October 8, 2009 - 16:31 ET by kangarooCrikeys the bloody crybabies, they still haven't learned a darn thing.
Don't listen to Rush! That made more people tune in.
Slam Glenn Beck, now he is on the top seller list and has a lot more listeners and viewers.
Now having a go at Fox, they are gonna wish they hadn't of done that.
As the saying goes you can't fix stupid
Love It
October 8, 2009 - 16:44 ET by richb313You got that right.!!
Don't forget Palin. Her
October 8, 2009 - 17:12 ET by mkjDon't forget Palin. Her book is a #1 best seller and it's not even been released yet. Thanks to the O government and the government run media.
Wasn't it just a week or so
October 8, 2009 - 16:44 ET by midnight cowboyWasn't it just a week or so ago that President Bozo said that we need to have a civil discouse?
Uh- huh. Seems like Ms Dunn and Mr. Grayson didn't get the memo.
And another thing...why are all the females in this administration so gosh darn ugly!
"why are all the females...ugly..."
October 8, 2009 - 16:49 ET by ww thumperBecause The BHO Administration is ugy ..........When you elect a communist for your President... don't be surprised when Communisem breakes out!... WW
Because
October 8, 2009 - 16:59 ET by Chaitealoverall the good-looking women work for Fox.
This WH only hires angry liberals.
Chai
“When all government...in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided...” Thomas Jefferson
Every time I think
October 8, 2009 - 16:53 ET by fitzfongEvery time I think "President" Alinsky, Jr. can't descend any further in showing the world what arrogant amateur douchebags he and his riff-raff administration are, another one of his low-level hacks comes out of anonymity to prove me wrong.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
nobody can hear you scream
October 8, 2009 - 16:58 ET by CatherwoodI think that woman played the lead in Killer Clowns from Outer Space. She looks just like the one in the green pajamas.
FOX news must stand out as an enemy of the WH. Just think of all the fawning networks which only promote the BO's version of things.
"I want you to get in their faces and argue with them"
October 8, 2009 - 17:03 ET by OxyCon"If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"
Those are Obama quotes.
Anyone suprised the thin skinned crybaby Obama would resort to thuggish behavior with the media? In almost every regard, he's dragging down the office he holds.
We knew BHO was a Thug
October 8, 2009 - 17:16 ET by ww thumperWe knew BHO was a Thug before he was elected.....When you elect a communist for your President... don't be surprised when Communisem breakes out!... WW
Okay, I'm gonna be the punk
October 8, 2009 - 23:23 ET by RescuedByRushOkay, I'm gonna be the punk that says it. Fix the spelling of Communism in your tag line!
Reasonably speaking, can you
October 8, 2009 - 17:04 ET by Another Dead KennedyReasonably speaking, can you really blame the White House for not bringing up the bias of some of the MSNBC programming? They're not going to openly complain that the network is saying too many nice things about them.
xoxo - Ted
Ted they are not bringing
October 8, 2009 - 17:11 ET by Dan The Man 2Ted they are not bringing up FNC, they are going to war with them. I remember President Bush just wanted to get his version of the war out and the good things happening and the SCM went ballistic. Saying nice things is ok but being the WH's bitch is a another. TheSCM is the latter.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
The way I see it, as long as
October 8, 2009 - 18:11 ET by Another Dead KennedyThe way I see it, as long as Fox continues to be the conservative based cable news station, MSNBC will cater towards liberals. Eventually people will get tired of the bickering and overall bias of the 2, and get back to wanting a truthful news outlet. Right now it's a game between MSNBC and Fox - whoever can secure more viewers wins, regardless of accuracy. In other words, they're giving people what they want...for now.
xoxo - Ted
and get back to wanting a
October 8, 2009 - 22:41 ET by Dan The Man 2and get back to wanting a truthful news outlet.
What we have here is a failure to communicate. Yes Ted use the tactic they are both liars, yep I don't buy it. What I do buy is you arenothing more than a bot.
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
ZING!!! xoxo - Ted
October 9, 2009 - 13:03 ET by Another Dead KennedyZING!!!
xoxo - Ted
Ted
October 8, 2009 - 22:56 ET by MrShyStop putting MSDNC and Fox on equal to-blame footing. You are failing and flailing. They're not. At ALL.
No network is grotesquely in the tank for an administration and one party the way MSDNC is. Add to that that CNN is a not too-distant second, and you've got a recipe for something scary as hell. But all's well and balanced out through your liberal-colored glasses.
Fox is not in either of those stratosphere's when grading corruption in journalism.
Ah, the exact response I
October 9, 2009 - 13:04 ET by Another Dead KennedyAh, the exact response I expected.
xoxo - Ted
"I want you to get in their faces and argue with them"
October 8, 2009 - 17:04 ET by OxyCon"If they bring a knife, we bring a gun"
Those are Obama quotes.
Anyone suprised the thin skinned crybaby Obama would resort to thuggish behavior with the media? In almost every regard, he's dragging down the office he holds.
He pees his pants over FOX
October 8, 2009 - 17:08 ET by Six String SpiffHe pees his pants over FOX news but Iran doesn't phase him.
You know, given the choice, I'd rather stop a homicidal maniac from becoming nuclear, but that's just one fellows opinion.
This administration has
October 8, 2009 - 17:04 ET by Six String SpiffThis administration has said more harmful and negative things to the Citizens of this country than and evil group on the planet.
They only use words and phrases like win, fight, battle, VICTORY, terrorists, criminal, NAZI, fascist, homophobic, xenophobic, punish, revenge, take back, hit them harder, defeat, get in their faces, and corrupt on their fellow citizens. NEVER a regime that is all of the aforementioned and worse.
Mr. Obama, We have enough data. Please end the experiment of what if a first grader were president.
Great tag line, Spiff
October 9, 2009 - 08:05 ET by UpNorth"Mr. Obama, We have enough data. Please end the experiment of what if a first grader were president". The folks at the WH are not only corrupt, but incompetent.
Government control of media-censorship
October 8, 2009 - 17:05 ET by mkjHmmmmmm. What are they so afraid of???? Seems like it just really po's them that FOX isn't in lockstep with the O administration and the government run media. Thank God for FOX!!!! Go, FOX. We are so hungry for news that isn't just spoon-fed pablum by the government. That's exactly why you are so successful. Please continue to fight back.
The fire is already kindled...
October 8, 2009 - 17:12 ET by SlyrrYou're too late, Anita. The independents you coveted have already seen exactly who and what you are, and your day of reckoning is coming.
The more you try to tighten your grip, the more the people will slip through your fingers.
Clean house in 2010!
i think
October 8, 2009 - 17:12 ET by ronfox news should turn up the heat
Agree 100%
October 8, 2009 - 17:15 ET by mkjAgree 100%
Before they cant
October 8, 2009 - 18:51 ET by general companyI will vote for anyone who will reverse this Admins policies, and look deep within this Admin.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
A sign of desperation?
October 8, 2009 - 17:15 ET by PrairieSkyFox News will "...say anything. They will take any small thing and distort it."
Right, Ms. Dunn...Unlike the unbiased, honest and objective reporting we all get from MSNBC and CNN...
This seems to me to be a sign of desperation from Team Obama...Fox must be getting a little to close to the nerve, for the White House to so obviously come out blasting away at them...Very, very interesting.
Way to go, Fox News...Stick to your guns, keep up the good work.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Let me get this
October 8, 2009 - 17:20 ET by ebayerLet me get this straight:
The White House thinks there's not enough of a counter argument against FNC coming from all the news magazines,major newspapers,network television,cable news,liberal blogs and Hollywood combined,so they've got to do the job themselves?
I'd be insulted if I were Kieth Olbermann,Matt Lauer,Katie Couric,Ed Shultz,Rachel Maddow,Jefferey Immelt,or any of the employees of CNN,NBC,ABC,NYT,LA Times,WaPo,Maureen Dowd,Air America,MSNBC and the Daily KOS
Ms.Dunn,remember this:
You will be giving the "OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE" response,so post facts and not spin.
Better to sit in silence and be thought a fool,then to speak and remove all doubt.
The Thought Police are in the Donut Shop
October 8, 2009 - 17:29 ET by IGC BloggerThe formerly obscure congressman from South Carolina notwithstanding, when the Left laughably calls out someone else for lying, it's a classic case of projection.
Given how this administration is working out, anyone want to give John McCain a do-over? http://ingeneralcoun...
Fox News vs Obama Administration
October 8, 2009 - 17:32 ET by poorasdirtgreatgrannyGiven the choice of believing Fox news or Obama or anyone in his administration I'll believe Fox hands down. Obama has surrounded himself with some of the slimiest people, People the likes of which I have never in 68 years run into. He will lie when the truth would be better and so will the rest of them.
However, saying that, i believe fully that if this administration can find a way to silence all conservative speach they will...I live in fear of that very thing. When that happens, for sure we are doomed to a chavez type country and it will be too late to fix anything.
ATexasGreatGranny trying to secure Liberty for my grandchildren and great grandchildren. Give me Liberty or Give me Death.
poorasdirtgreatgranny
October 8, 2009 - 17:37 ET by MrShyFirst post I've seen from you. Welcome to NB! And hear hear!!
- poorasdirtmusician/artist
poorasdirtgreatgranny...Right you are and...
October 8, 2009 - 17:39 ET by PrairieSkywelcome to NewsBusters. It's always great to welcome new folks to NB!
Glad to have you aboard!
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Welcome, greatgranny.
October 8, 2009 - 17:46 ET by QueenMumWelcome, greatgranny. You're among friends. :)
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
GreatGranny..Welcome ;)
October 8, 2009 - 18:34 ET by ww thumperMy "GreatGranny" Wife & I have 10 grandkids & 2 Great grand sons..if I knew my grandkids were so much fun..I would have had them first.................When you elect a communist for your President... don't be surprised when Communisem breakes out!... WW
Howdy greatgranny!
October 8, 2009 - 23:01 ET by RukusWelcome to NB! Kick back and have a good 'ol time, I know we all do. Good to have ya aboard! : )
Gary
If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -- Tom Paine
If this wasnt so
October 8, 2009 - 17:38 ET by SnappyIf this wasnt so frightening it would be hilarious.
The Office of the President of the United States of America is mad at Fox News? Do they realize how ridiculous that sounds, and is?
I dont think I have ever seen a bigger bunch of thin skinned crybabies in my life!!!!
This is a pattern however, make it personal. Joe the Plumber, Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck (and on a side bar Jessica Simpson for beating him out of a magazine cover.)All names of "has been" people. People whos lives have been destroyed and careers ruined, folks you never hear from anymore because of the ruthless tactics employed by the unforgiving White House machine.
Good grief, when will they learn that they cant even discredit people effectivly. They are not ready for the prime time and it shows. They are playing small town dirty politics on a world level and its showing them for the fools they are.
"Crybabies"...It's just as Chris Wallace has said...
October 8, 2009 - 17:56 ET by PrairieSky"These guys [the Obama administration], everything is personal...They are the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington."
Wallace was (and is) exactly right...Heaven forbid that ANYONE dare to find fault with or criticize "The One"...
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Oh Lordy! We got 'em on the
October 8, 2009 - 17:45 ET by ConservativeRexOh Lordy! We got 'em on the run now!! Keep the heat on them FOX, never let up!! In fact, increase the heat on them. I know you've been sitting on story's this administration would rather not have out in public, bring 'em on out! Let's shine some light on all of these crooks, every damn one of 'em!
By the way, welcome to NB Granny, from one Texan to another!
Si Vis Palem, Para Bellum
The White House
October 8, 2009 - 17:48 ET by 10ksnookerWould be better served sticking with the weee weed up pit of PMSNBC.
Truth is something all liberals cannot tolerate.
Keep flapping your lips Ms.
October 8, 2009 - 17:55 ET by jistincaseKeep flapping your lips Ms. Dung. Something really stinks on capitol hill and its not Fox News, well except for maybe Shlepp Smith.
A sneak peek ...
October 8, 2009 - 18:00 ET by QueenMumAt the upcoming Official State Run news network.
Forgive me, Lachlan. It's been a long day.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Richard Milhaus Obama..,
October 8, 2009 - 18:04 ET by Jack BauerRichard Milhaus Obama.., just listen to these creeps display a level of unhinged paranoia not seen since Nixon.
(The only difference being that the press really was out to get Nixon. )
It rises to an assault on the 1st Amendment rights of a legitimate news outlet by the legislative and executive branches.
The Obamunists really don't like any challenge to their temporary authority, do they?
Jack...I'm not sure if it's simply paranoia or...
October 8, 2009 - 18:57 ET by PrairieSkythin-skinned, petulant arrogance...The entire attitude of this administration and this president is "How dare you question/challenge us?" In my lifetime, (I'm 48) I have never seen such blatant, naked arrogance in a president and an administration. Even Nixon and Clinton weren't as bad as this crew is.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Beck is certainly hitting a
October 8, 2009 - 18:07 ET by Radical1979Beck is certainly hitting a nerve.
I really don't think they'll be able to hurt Fox News. The more they fuss about Fox the more credibility they get.
Off topic, Jay Leno has been pretty lefty and I'm getting sick of that.
Be heartened...
October 8, 2009 - 21:36 ET by Forest for the TreesLeno's ratings are dropping like a rock - and justafiably so, no matter his politcal leanings (although it really irritates me too!). His show is just not funny any more, mostly just stupid, sophmoric, irrelevant attempts at entertainment.
I will be sorry to see him go though, because I do like him better than Letterman, Stewart, Conan, Colbert, or any of the others...okay, I know that doesn't mean much considering his peers on late night TV are seriously disappointing.
"White House Defends
October 8, 2009 - 18:08 ET by ckc1227"White House Defends Attacks on Fox News: 'They Will Say Anything'"
Pot, meet kettle.
No hissing
October 8, 2009 - 18:11 ET by cajun2Anyone notice the absence of hissing? Trolls do not like this kind of story do they?
Hello greatgranny, welcome neighbor.
Yep, I noticed it! They're
October 8, 2009 - 23:35 ET by RescuedByRushYep, I noticed it! They're the ones that make reading the comments fun. But you're right, there are lots of posts that they avoid, and resultantly reveal themselves through their avoidance.
Where's those COGs when you need them?
October 8, 2009 - 18:13 ET by AmmoManTime calls Dunn the "general" of this anti-Fox campaign.
General Dunn, or just a general dunce?
Time for the WH to release those "Community Organ grinders" again... 'They'll play anything'
sooner or later
October 8, 2009 - 18:17 ET by jon_torlinAnyone get the feeling that the lines are being drawn in the sand?
Given what Rush talked about today on his show and what's been going on the last few days, it's almost like a prelude to something that will irrevocably change our lives for the worst.
-Jon
Change for the worse?
October 8, 2009 - 18:32 ET by ckc1227That happened on November 4, 2008. They're just working out the details now.
"Anyone get the feeling that the lines are being drawn in the sand?"
Well, I would hope so, because making a stand is the only way to take this country back from the looters, liberals, and deadbeats, but I don't have much faith. Sadly, I think all this momentum will be lost by the time election day rolls around in 2010, and folks will just fall back into their normal, complacent lives. I hope I'm wrong though.
Fox News
October 8, 2009 - 18:17 ET by JayceFox's total drubbing of the competition is something liberals simply can not accept, much less comprehend. The fact that all MSM media organizations are disseminating anything this administration tells them and their poll numbers continue to drop is driving the liberals crazy. The obama administration is attempting to use Fox News as a scapegoat, when the real reason is the fundamental dislike more and more Americans have for this administrations core message and beliefs. Liberals can not win in a debate of the facts. They always resort to scurrilous attacks without facing the elephant in the room.
Don't communists control the
October 8, 2009 - 18:40 ET by goldboughDon't communists control the press and speech?
We have the rebels on the run...
October 8, 2009 - 18:44 ET by nan101If we just keep our heads up, and maintain diligence and humility we shall overcome and take our government back and defend the constitution and all it stands for.
The Civil war was a bloody mess, however there is a potent and valuable lesson to be remembered. Men and women sacrificed their land, families and very lives to defend the great land we call the United States of America.
Let us not forget their sacrifice for their fellow man. This is a great country and we are all free today because their is no greater love than this that we are willing to lay down our lives for our friends.
Let's stand up and let our voices be heard. Obama you lie.
Judgement Day Nov, 2 - 2010 - Glenn Beck speaks for me!!!
SORRY!!
October 8, 2009 - 18:47 ET by nan101Sorry for the double post, the post command was slow and I hit it twice....duh, what a dork I know...
Judgement Day Nov, 2 - 2010 - Glenn Beck speaks for me!!!
I think you're mixing up
October 8, 2009 - 18:48 ET by Another Dead KennedyI think you're mixing up your wars. The Civil War the war between states, the Union vs the North.
Perhaps you're talking about the American Revolutionary War?
xoxo - Ted
~I think you're mixing up...
October 8, 2009 - 18:52 ET by choselife3xthe Union vs the North.
The North and the South....I'll get a pot of coffee going, stat!
Kossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
You know, I'm sick of your
October 8, 2009 - 18:56 ET by Another Dead KennedyYou know, I'm sick of your crap! ; )
Speaking of crap - CRAP! Union vs the South.
xoxo - Ted
~S'okay, Ted
October 8, 2009 - 19:17 ET by choselife3xWe knew what you meant. Now recite the alphabet backwards and touch your nose.
Oh crap, I said your nose...stop tha-stop..oh geez, somebody get the poor guy a bucket, I'll hold his hair back.
Kossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
Hahahaha...I'll have you
October 8, 2009 - 19:19 ET by Another Dead KennedyHahahaha...I'll have you know that reciting the alphabet backwards is one of my talents. That and all the presidents.
xoxo - Ted
Ted
October 8, 2009 - 19:29 ET by MrShy"That and all the presidents."
All the presidents... are your talents? I don't even want to know.
:)
I knew I should have added
October 8, 2009 - 19:41 ET by Another Dead KennedyI knew I should have added [reciting] all the presidents. Just keep setting myself up.
xoxo - Ted
→ Drupal
October 8, 2009 - 19:45 ET by Cool ArrowWhat you do backwards with the Presidents is your business.
~Not that there's anything wrong with that
October 8, 2009 - 19:49 ET by choselife3xKossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
~Not your fault
October 8, 2009 - 19:50 ET by choselife3xThat someone has a dirty mind.
Kossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
→ cl3x
October 8, 2009 - 20:10 ET by Cool ArrowSafe Schools Czar, Kevin Jennings, might have some words of advice for Ted.
→ Right on Drupal
October 8, 2009 - 18:52 ET by Cool ArrowEverybody knows the Civil War was when General Sherman got King Obama to sign the Magna Carta.
That's the Magnum Charter,
October 8, 2009 - 19:06 ET by Another Dead KennedyThat's the Magnum Charter, duh.
xoxo - Ted
→ Champagne Wars
October 8, 2009 - 19:14 ET by Cool ArrowAll over a bottle of bubbly?
But alas, it was a very
October 8, 2009 - 19:21 ET by Another Dead KennedyBut alas, it was a very rare, yet very fine bottle of bubbly.
xoxo - Ted
How's that hangover?
October 8, 2009 - 18:53 ET by BKeyserHow's that hangover?
Obviously not so good, and I
October 8, 2009 - 19:04 ET by Another Dead KennedyObviously not so good, and I didn't even watch Keith!
xoxo - Ted
Actually...
October 8, 2009 - 19:53 ET by nan101I am speaking about the war between the states. The corollary is about we the people...It was a war fought between brothers. We are one country divided and it is a bad thing. There were many battles fought and no ground was gained.
It was the biggest heartbreak for all involved. When people died and no difference was made.
This is a civil war in a sense, we are fighting for a right to be heard and to maintain our moral ground and not give it up to the moral relativist who say, this is good for you but not for me and we are going to teach your children that the very thing you stand against is okay.
Indoctrination is an ongoing battle against each other. In our own country my Christian voice is becoming drowned out by those who would silence me for the very fact that I don't condone their sin.
Freedom of speech is one of the rare gifts that we have, it is one of the things that this administration is fighting to silence.
That is why this story is so relevant. We have to be vigilant and be humble to be heard, yet our voices have to be so clear and that we stand together so well that they don't see any room with which to mount a viable attack.
So, no I believe we are in the battle for our very freedom that our brother wants to take away. I really don't want to seem overly dramatic however...
Thank you for reading and considering my post, I really love engaging at this site and it makes me proud to be with like minded people. There is enough dissent that this is a nice break from that.
Judgement Day Nov, 2 - 2010 - Glenn Beck speaks for me!!!
I like it
October 8, 2009 - 20:27 ET by general companyInteresting perspective, thanks
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
We have the rebels on the run...
October 8, 2009 - 18:45 ET by nan101If we just keep our heads up, and maintain diligence and humility we shall overcome and take our government back and defend the constitution and all it stands for.
The Civil war was a bloody mess, however there is a potent and valuable lesson to be remembered. Men and women sacrificed their land, families and very lives to defend the great land we call the United States of America.
Let us not forget their sacrifice for their fellow man. This is a great country and we are all free today because their is no greater love than this that we are willing to lay down our lives for our friends.
Let's stand up and let our voices be heard. Obama you lie.
Judgement Day Nov, 2 - 2010 - Glenn Beck speaks for me!!!
TERM LIMITS!!! TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED
October 8, 2009 - 18:56 ET by PoljunkOFFICIALS! I am screaming this too (every day, every time I see or hear these weasels!)
When will Americans get it! Only with term limits can we control the corruption, the damage, the power grab and nefarious legislature! This is the most racial, the most politics as usual and most corrupted WH I can think of; am I in the minority, I hope not
OK fine
October 8, 2009 - 20:30 ET by general companyBut how do we get career politicians to write the bill that will make it so?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
"Only with term limits can
October 9, 2009 - 02:12 ET by ckc1227"Only with term limits can we control the corruption, the damage, the power grab and nefarious legislature!"
Not really....it just means they'll have to screw us faster.
TERM LIMITS!!! TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED
October 8, 2009 - 18:57 ET by PoljunkOFFICIALS! I am screaming this too (every day, every time I see or hear these weasels!)
When will Americans get it! Only with term limits can we control the corruption, the damage, the power grab and nefarious legislature! This is the most racial, the most politics as usual and most corrupted WH I can think of; am I in the minority, I hope not
Poljunk
October 8, 2009 - 19:29 ET by MrShyDANG STRAIGHT !!!!!
Term
October 8, 2009 - 20:42 ET by GregETerm limits...............AND, proper representation in Congress. 700,000 constituents per Representative is asinine. Drop that by 1/4, and the House membership goes to 1740.
Check this out.
http://economics.gmu...
Shaking my head
October 8, 2009 - 19:25 ET by carolina09Even with the VRWC, and his occasional jabs at Limbaugh--Clinton didn't behave so childishly.
Aren't there any grownups at the WH? Do they really think this incessant whining is productive?
Our tax dollars are paying
October 8, 2009 - 20:36 ET by GregEOur tax dollars are paying White House bloggers.
Wish they would come here
October 8, 2009 - 21:20 ET by general companyAnd show us were we are all going wrong. Or maybe we can pay them a visit? I didnt see a place to comment? Cowards
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Mmmm mmmm mmmm
October 8, 2009 - 20:58 ET by Tugboat PhilBarack Hussein Obama
Got called a name and cried all night,
Sent a girl to do his fight.
Mmmm mmmm mmmm.
Sticks and stones will break his bones,
Since he's got no cajones.
Mmmm mmmm mmmm.
(yeah, I know the last part doesn't rhyme but it's spelled the same)
Gun Control - The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
Tugboat
October 8, 2009 - 21:06 ET by FeynmanFanIt rhymes if you pronounce bones "bo-nays"
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
"bo-nays" I'm still
October 8, 2009 - 23:41 ET by RescuedByRush"bo-nays"
I'm still laughing as I type this. Good one!
I think Fox has hit a nerve
October 8, 2009 - 21:35 ET by Cho Yi FanMy the White House is certainly sensitive about criticism especially since Fox can back that criticism up with facts. Van Jones and Acorn are just the tip of the iceberg.Does Obama really want more of his hidden agenda uncovered? I have noticed that since the White House threw down the gauntlet Fox has also been stepping up to the commentary. I cant wait to see Major Garrett at the next Obama news conference.Does the The Great One have the stones to take Major's question? I doubt it.He would rather hide behind his media thugs to get the job done? The White House has jumped on the wrong dog,my money is on Fox-who has an audience that continues to grow.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have".
Thomas Jefferson
Land Snark
October 8, 2009 - 21:38 ET by BKeyserYeah, boring, I know- but I was bored.
And at least I can also post an SNL classic.
What's Happening To Obama Is What Happened To Bush...
October 8, 2009 - 22:56 ET by The7SticksI still remember the days when Fox News did fair and balanced journalism during the second Bush administration and how the other channels like MSNBC (and to a lesser extent CNN) were always scheming to find a way to put egg on President Bush's face. Not anymore, though. They have now gone down to the level of MSNBC and CNN in pulling the same bullsh*t that they pulled on President Bush (I am a supporter of both President Bush and President Obama.) As far as I'm concerned, news broadcasters' bottom line is making a profit no matter what side of the aisle they are on. That's all they care about. They don't care about the truth, which isn't a bad thing, but they know they are going to have to be exposed. And I don't necessarily mean the commentators, but the actual reporters themselves. They seem more concerned about exposing corruption to gain ratings, and FOX is now pulling that kind of Alberto Gonzales-bashing that the left-wing networks did. You have to find the truth for yourself like I did. It's not easy, but if you can look in the right places, you'll never have to be paranoid again.
Good grief
October 8, 2009 - 23:02 ET by general companyThey seem more concerned about exposing corruption to gain ratings,
? What? If you think Fox is being less the truthful then give examples, because I think you statement is flawed.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Liberal troll 7Sticks going
October 8, 2009 - 23:03 ET by MrShyLiberal troll 7Sticks is going from thread to thread dropping his propagandizing, equivalency, "they're all bad" poops on one of the fine media/political blog sites, NewsBusters.
I'm sure he's feeling like some kind of courageous hero.
That post just sounded like
October 8, 2009 - 23:46 ET by RescuedByRushThat post just sounded like it had a little alcohol in it. So it's probably more like beer muscles than courageous heroism.
Fox never carried water for
October 8, 2009 - 23:06 ET by NL207Fox never carried water for Bush like the other nets have been for Obama, both during his campaign AND since he has taken office. Moreover, the nets were carrying Obama's water during the primaries AGAINST Hilllary, something Fox also did not engage in.
Just when...
October 9, 2009 - 02:17 ET by Forest for the Treeswe thought we were going to get a troll free night, a troll crawls out again.
They're working overtime to
October 9, 2009 - 00:12 ET by RR GOPThey're working overtime to try to figure out how to silence Fox News, Conservative talk radio and perhaps major sites like this one.
Fox News has done a lot to thwart their Socialist BS...and they don't like it. They're on a par with religious fanatics.
These are not people who are mere politicians (though some like Biden and Shrillary are probably along for the ride), but hardcore Marxists.
I don't think we realize what an a$$-kicking we're in for.
If I'm wrong, then I will be very surprised, and of course relieved.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
O my gawd moment
October 9, 2009 - 04:52 ET by kangaroointernet is underseige by the bloody whitehouse sheesh. http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2009/10/obama-wants-to-control-the-web.html
They are laying the foundations...
October 9, 2009 - 06:49 ET by jdripperSomewhere in the future they are going to pass legislation or regulations that will silence all critics of democrats and BO for ever. This is some scary stuff.
Jack
"If at age 20 you are a conservative then you have no heart. If at age 30 you are a liberal then you have no brains." Sir Winston Churchill
Apparently liberals/progressives can handle no opposition
October 9, 2009 - 06:49 ET by c5thenWith basically just one cable news channel not fawning all over this administration, they are acting like they are just sheer seconds away from a popular coup. This is the Venusuealan template being used here. Complain about certain media outlets, fight them publically and then shut them down for sedition.
The administration is looking more and more dangerous in it's childish attempts at silencing it's critics instead of engaging with them and debating their ideas on their own merrits. It's almost as if they realize that they can't win a logical civil debate and are therefore emotionalizing it and trying to shout down those with different views.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!
www.loyaltoliberty.com
I believe
October 9, 2009 - 09:23 ET by jessieHI believe Fox is more honest about the truth than the white house or the fringe media. They have no answers, so they attack the truth.
Because they are afraid of Fox
October 9, 2009 - 09:30 ET by Airforce_5_OThe White House is afraid. Very afraid. Fox has not fell in lock step with the rest of the MSM to glorify the One. They are digging into BHO's past and they are afraid the people will see what is in the Ones closet. That scares them to death.
Liberalism: The haunting feeling that someone, somewhere, can help themselves.