In his latest push for a health care overhaul bill, President Obama spoke to doctors in the White House Rose Garden yesterday. Painting a nice picture of the event were many media outlets that neglected to mention the White House's doctoring (forgive the pun) of the audience in an attempt at a powerful photo-op.
Doctors attending the event were instructed to show up in white lab coats to give observers the feeling that doctors stand behind the President's health care plans.
"White Coats in the Rose Garden, as Obama Rallies Doctors on Health Overhaul," read a New York Times blog post headline. "The roughly 150 doctors assembled wore white lab coats under the brilliant fall sun," the Washington Post recalled. The San Francisco Chronicle wrote, "Obama faced rows of smiling doctors, all wearing white lab coats." NBC News also noted the white coats donned by the doctors in attendance.
But none of these media outlets mentioned that the White House had to hand out lab coats to a number of the doctors in attendance who showed up in business attire. Apparently trying to drive home the image of medical professionals applauding the President, the White House would not start the press conference until all of the doctors were dressed in the "spiffy" outfits, in the President's words.
The Washington Post and the New York Times included pictures in their respective stories showing white-coated doctors listening to and conversing with the President.
According to the Associated Press, the Obama offered nothing new in his address to the doctors, so the event was clearly an opportunity to show the country that medical professionals support his plan. Many major media outlets declined to note the botched attempt to enhance the 'doctors-support-the-plan' image of the event, playing right into the White House's objectives.
Rather than cover the clear attempt by the President to use visuals to enhance the public perception of support from the industry, media outlets chose to rehash White House talking points.
UPDATE
The New York Times has revealed yet another double standard in covering political advocacy groups.
The Times was quick to condemn the Bush administration for conducting "too many photo-ops aimed at giving Mr. Bush and his fellow Republicans a short-term lift in the domestic opinion polls." But the Times didn't seem to have a problem with Obama "trying to use his platform to keep public attention on the effort."
Furthermore, the Times noted in an update to the aforementioned blog post, which appeared in print in today's paper (without the update), that Doctors for America, the group attended the Rose Garden photo-op, "appears to be working closely with Organizing for America," an extension of the Obama campaign.
Considering the Times claimed that Tea Party protests were organized by "some well-funded Astroturf outfits from the permanent lobbying class inside the Beltway," one would think they would mention this blatant connection to the White House in initially reporting the story. Handing out signs is comparable to handing out lab coats, after all.
The whole photo-op stinks of Astroturf. But apparently manufactured showings of support are all well and good, but manufactured showings of dissent are off limits.
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Photo [sh]Op
October 6, 2009 - 10:32 ET by BKeyserWhite coats to cover the brown shirts?
Just as genuine, here's Barry working on his newest health care reform pitch medium: The late night infomercial.
I'm guessing Rahm isn't thrilled with the silliness of it all...
Nice job, as usual. But
October 6, 2009 - 12:22 ET by HockeyKidNice job, as usual. But shouldn't it have that famous quote, "You'll love my nuts," somewhere on it? ;)
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Or.....
October 6, 2009 - 12:26 ET by BlondeA second panel of Vince/Obama in his mug shot(s) with the hooker.
<edit> "You'll love my nuts" is Slap Chop!
I hope he fails, too.
Of course it was staged
October 6, 2009 - 10:34 ET by BlondeMany of the NB'ers have been discussing this whole sad tale of "Health Care Reform" over on the Forums for the past six months.
In regard to this article, my friend Par for the Course posted the following, yesterday:
<Edit, the really interesting stuff is at the end of this post...it's long, but don't skip it, please>.
Interesting stuff, yes?
I hope he fails, too.
Nicely done!
October 6, 2009 - 14:30 ET by nolotrippenNicely done!
nolo...Par did it...
October 6, 2009 - 15:30 ET by BlondeI just reposted it, because I agree with you...it was brilliant.
I hope he fails, too.
I give that one
October 6, 2009 - 15:29 ET by jdlybrandTwo Thumbs UP!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
What a surprise
October 6, 2009 - 10:36 ET by DelsaHow many doctors do you know who wear their "white coats" outside their office?
NONE!
Anyone not knowing this event was staged is an idiot anyway.
GRRRRRRRRRR!! My
October 6, 2009 - 10:44 ET by samhermanmdGRRRRRRRRRR!! My profession reduced to this?!!! I saw this morning on Fox News that the staff passed out white coats for those physicians who did not have one with them. WHAT? Instead of Clinton's "blue dress", we now have Obama's "white coat" scandal.
I do not even wear a white coat inside of my office, but only in the hospital when regulations require.
I seriously wonder if any of these docs know that the Obama administration considers them all to be indentured servants?! Probably not.
The surgeon that put the
October 6, 2009 - 10:48 ET by ricklailThe surgeon that put the chest tube in each time I had a collapsed lung wear scrubs in his office and the hospital. Why not put some in scrubs to signify surgeons?
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Another Fascist photo-op
October 6, 2009 - 21:48 ET by Scout FinchFascists like to use photo imagery and manipulated images to influence a population that doesn't care to read and responds better to imagery. Forty years of dumbing down education have come to this.
How many doctors do you
October 6, 2009 - 12:55 ET by motherbeltHow many doctors do you know who wear their "white coats" outside their office?
Shoot, our family doctor doesn't even wear one IN his office. Business dress: shirt and tie.
Mine wears khakis and plaid
October 6, 2009 - 13:02 ET by QueenMumMine wears khakis and plaid shirts. He does wear an open white coat with his name on it, mostly because he's part of a group practice which insists on it and helps to identify who's who in the office.
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Disney Socks
October 6, 2009 - 13:09 ET by BlondeMy ex's neurologist wore Disney Cartoon socks. He was a brilliant doc, too.
It was funny.
I hope he fails, too.
Delsa--
October 6, 2009 - 17:31 ET by Kat Outta the BagI work for a group of 8 doctors and not only do they not wear their lab coats outside the office, they take them off when they're still in the office but not seeing patients.
Get real
October 6, 2009 - 10:37 ET by mcherrOne of the doctors in attendance who is supporting the healthcare debacle complained about the micro managing and second guessing by the insurance companies in what they pay or won't pay.
Holy moley! Hey doctor, see what the federal gummint will second guess and micro manage if this comes to pass.
What an idiot!
Yep, I heard one of these very clowns on
October 6, 2009 - 18:40 ET by general companyIngrams show today pretty much state the very same thing, when Laura asked her why so many Dr's wont see Medicare patients,
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Let's see now.....
October 6, 2009 - 10:58 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonThe white house staff identified these people in white coats as 'doctors'.
The media identified these people in white coats as 'doctors'.
Both of the groups making the identifications has a well known, and proven, history of creating false impressions, lying, and supressing facts.
I would venture to make the supposition that the PhDs were along the lines of "Doctor of nose picking, Doctor of shoelace tying, Doctor of sniveling, Doctor of....."
Well, you get the idea.
Not a single MD in the crowd that isn't wholly dependent on government largess for their survival.
http://gjresult.com
hand out lab coats
October 6, 2009 - 10:40 ET by CarlosS"She's a doctor." - Jonah
"Of what? Her first name could be Doctor. " - Sam Baldwin
Greta
October 6, 2009 - 10:49 ET by jaywlGreta on Fox had a couple of the docs on last night. I checked one, Orlowski from Washington Hospital Center. She is a Obama donor and gives a lot to a PAC supporting mostly Democrats. I think the other was Eye Candy, nervous and repeating a talking point within three sentences (over two questions). Surprise! Surprise!
BTW: when the inmates of the asylum steal white coats and badges how do you tell who's real?
Let in the Clowns
October 6, 2009 - 10:50 ET by ptson"Doctors" supporting a government take over of their businesses? People so smart they put lab coats over thrie best dress clothes on a warm day to sit outside. By definition, NOT all doctors graduated in the top half of their class.
Since you guys are here, let's take a photo
October 6, 2009 - 10:54 ET by SeftonHow many were Obama's personal physicians there to establish treatment guidelines for his Narcissistic Personality Disorder?
NPD Turkey
October 6, 2009 - 12:05 ET by slickwillie2001Funny how liberal propaganda lives on long after corrections have gone out:
New York Times: Turkey Not Fake: http://www.stinkyjournalism.org
I believe that the liberal media cranks out lies on purpose, knowing that the correction will be buried on page 26 and not go out on the wire media.
Re NPD, isn't there a drug company working on a remedy for that? Perhaps the Bamster can take part in the FDA required tests on it.
Kinda like:
October 6, 2009 - 12:13 ET by BKeyser"the jury is instructed to disregard that last comment"
Say.... isn't this whole
October 6, 2009 - 10:59 ET by MidAmericaSay.... isn't this whole staged affair the type of event that a community organizer would put on?
Acorn Employees in Doctor's Clothing
October 6, 2009 - 10:59 ET by SkipperMLMDid the press check the credentials of any of these "doctors"?
Is there a head doctor in the house?
credentials?
October 6, 2009 - 14:59 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonThe Marx brothers have been reproducing, they don't need no stinking 'credentials'!
http://gjresult.com
This reminds me of Bush's
October 6, 2009 - 11:02 ET by frankmerThis reminds me of Bush's photo-op where they placed him at such an angle that his head was added to Mt. Rushmore. Oh and then there was the flight suit photo-op and then the fake turkey....
It's called posturing folks and every President since the invention of photography has done something like this.
You mean like Scare Force One?
October 6, 2009 - 11:07 ET by BlondeAnd Obama covering up a Roman Catholic saying at his speech at Georgetown U, or the pics of Obama with a holy light around his head?
Like that?
I hope he fails, too.
"ObamaCare!" - The Musical
October 6, 2009 - 11:16 ET by Chris NormanBlonde,
Can you imagine the cat calls from the media if Bush had staged such a blatant dog and pony show? With all those matching white lab coat costumes, I half expected those doctors to break out in some kind of a musical comedy number - linking arms in a chorus line and doing some high kicks. Yeah, this was real grass roots activism...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Good one, Chris
October 6, 2009 - 11:23 ET by BlondeThe only reason they didn't have their little dance review, was because they ran out of time in rehearsals, there was one doc who just couldn't get the timing down right.
I'd like to see the Doctor's and other health care workers march on Washington, with Red Lab Coats (commie).
Wonder how many there would be?
I hope he fails, too.
Choreographer Rahm In Charge
October 6, 2009 - 11:30 ET by SeftonThe only reason they didn't have their little dance review, was because
they ran out of time in rehearsals, there was one doc who just couldn't
get the timing down right.
Imagine the hissy Rahm would've been throwing.
Hee hee
October 6, 2009 - 11:33 ET by BlondeIt gets even better, because the one doc who couldn't get the Bamster two step down correctly was Toes' own brother, Doctor Zeke.
Hmmm, wonder if Toes is going to send his brother a dead fish today?
I hope he fails, too.
Medical Mediocrity
October 6, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Chris NormanBlonde,
Sigh. Instead of wanting to be professionals - an implied individual accomplishment - I suppose there are always those who want to be medical bureaucrats - just cogs in the government machinery - where they can wallow in anonymous mediocrity. Putting them all in matching lab coats is a first step.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
By golly you're right,
October 6, 2009 - 12:30 ET by QueenMumBy golly you're right, Blonde. Here they are in rehearsal! :0
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Well maybe, but this is
October 6, 2009 - 11:10 ET by MidAmericaWell maybe, but this is the first time that the President is also just a prop for the cameras. We do not have an actual president at this time. He just plays one on TV.
This is all a very sick
October 6, 2009 - 11:13 ET by MaximusBraveheartThis is all a very sick sell out of our constitution. Let's all be government slaves... what fun!
Just plays one on TV is right! LOL. M-B
fake turkey and fake rushmore pic
October 6, 2009 - 11:23 ET by katainkentversus fake doctor support for a failing fake health care bill.
I'll take the fake turkey.
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Hmm, been here 3 years, four weeks, and have posted on 7 threads
October 6, 2009 - 11:42 ET by R D HelmBut you're not a troll, are you?
LOL.
-Dave
And even though he has been
October 6, 2009 - 13:38 ET by Scuba DudeAnd even though he has been a member for 3 years he only started posting 3 days ago? Troll on frank troll on.
The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER
frankmer, the only fake
October 6, 2009 - 12:27 ET by HockeyKidfrankmer, the only fake turkey is you.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Posturing for thee but not for me...
October 6, 2009 - 15:11 ET by HypocriteHaterHowever, when a Republican postures, the media calls him out and tries to embarass him over it. When a Democrat does it, the media says nothing and becomes complicit in the posturing. Mustn't let a good propaganda go to waste!
I was listening to Rusty Humphries last night
October 6, 2009 - 19:14 ET by general companyHe told a story about Bush in that flight jacket:
Seems Rusty was invited to a dinner in his honor by an Admiral (I forgot the name) he was introduced to several other military officers, one being the Capt of the Aircraft carrier with the infamous "Mission Accomplished" banner. First point Rusty made was the Banner was for the men and woman on the Ship, because they were heading home, because their mission had been accomplished. So, as Rusty tells it, Bush landed on the Ship and the Capt asked him what he wanted to do? Bush said, I want to talk to the troops, he proceeded to spend the next 4.5 hrs shaking hands and taking photos with the men and woman aboard the ship. When they ate dinner the President continued his conversation with the troops, after dinner the Capt told the President that his quarters have been set up for the President, but Bush wanted to continue visiting with the troops. Bush spent another 4 hrs talking meeting with and taking photos for and with the troops before retiring. The following morning Bush continued to try and meet and shake hands with everyone he could, right up to boarding his fight. The Capt estimated that out of the 6000 aboard Bush probably met with 4800. And the best our sorry assed media could do was hang that damd banner around his neck like a noose. Can anyone ever imagine Obama doing that for our men and woman in uniform? Ever!!
I didnt agree with Bush all of the time, but the more I hear from folks who worked with him on the job, the more I respect him.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Reminds me of the day care
October 6, 2009 - 19:29 ET by Dan The Man 2Reminds me of the day care President Bush and Laura Bush stopped at. There was maybe 10 min of photo ops and the Bushes stayed for hours after. these little events are not related because Bush was stupid and cowboy and evil above all else and Obama could not stop by a hospital in Germany.
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Let's see - 150 staged
October 6, 2009 - 11:14 ET by MazziLet's see - 150 staged doctors, versus more than 1000 who took their own time to rally in protest - and were completely ignored by the media. Uncommon Sense Blog
That sounds like 85% of doctors are AGAINST the healthcare plan. Also, please note - the rallying doctors paid their own way and organized themselves... if you want to assign weight to the mind-set of the participants, that has to mean something.
Anyway, using the Whitehouse's own logic, I guess it's easy to see how doctors - the people who really know about this stuff - feel. And, they don't like it.
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Good point! I wonder how
October 6, 2009 - 11:16 ET by MaximusBraveheartGood point! I wonder how many doctors at the 9/12 march!?
What was the 9/12 attendance from the most reliable final estimate? I did not hear. M-B
It depends on who you ask.
October 6, 2009 - 11:34 ET by MazziIt depends on who you ask. But clearly there were a lot more than most SRM was willing to credit. No matter how many there were, this report is pretty comprehensive, and shows that there were significantly more than many other demonstrations, and roughly twice as many as Obama's inauguration.
The author thinks that there were about 800,000 at Obama's Inauguration, and about 1.7 million at the 9/12 - but if his numbers are wrong, they are proportionately wrong. Take it for what it's worth, lol!
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
Very good Mazzi
October 6, 2009 - 19:40 ET by general companyThanks, BTW has anyone sent this to BOR
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Where'd the white coats come from?
October 6, 2009 - 11:17 ET by karelingYour tax dollars paid for them, and they probably cost as much as the $600 hammers or $2,000 toilet seats.
They may have borrowed them
October 6, 2009 - 12:50 ET by Chris NormanThey may have borrowed them from Joe Biden's "attendants".
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Reminds me
October 6, 2009 - 11:18 ET by ohiochiliof the old cigarette commercials..'9 out of 10 doctors recommend ...as the best and safest smoke!!!'
In-Doctor-inating Patients?
October 6, 2009 - 11:25 ET by sic721From I-bama's speech:
"...and I especially want to thank you for agreeing to fan out across the country and make the case about why this reform effort is so desperately needed.....And so if you're willing to speak out strongly on behalf of the things you care about and what you see each and every day as you're serving patients all across the country, I'm confident we are going to get health reform passed this year."
In-doc-trinating
October 6, 2009 - 11:28 ET by QueenMumSure. Like every hard-working doc has time to lecture their patients about Obamacare. If my doc started up with this on my next visit, I'd promptly exit the office and fill out paper work to transfer my records.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
IMO, this shows Obama's
October 6, 2009 - 11:26 ET by QueenMumIMO, this shows Obama's disrespect for the medical profession. Providing "wardrobe" for his dog-and-pony show? I'm sure some of the docs showed up because they felt it an honor to be invited. Some honor. Being told to dress the part in order for the Dear Leader to garner credibility. I wonder how many of the docs who showed up are now regretting that they accepted the invitation.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Obama will use ANYTHING
October 6, 2009 - 11:30 ET by BlondeTo further his sales pitches for his smelly deals.
Can you say Oprah in Copenhagen? I knew you could.
I had a chance to meet Bill Clinton when he was president, and even meeting an acting president couldn't overcome my personal distate for the man. So you're right....after having been used like a prop for Obama, I wonder how many of them are now having buyer's remorse. Particularly since they now most likely understand our disgust at the stage management.
I hope he fails, too.
Keep an eye out, Blonde.
October 6, 2009 - 11:39 ET by QueenMumKeep an eye out, Blonde. I'm sure Fox is already looking for a "turn coat". ;)
BTW, do you think the white coat was a racist "code" thing?
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Turn Coat
October 6, 2009 - 11:42 ET by BlondeWe shall see, QM, we shall see.
Verry punny.
Of course it was code for something. I'm not quite sure what....maybe code for "this is how stupid we think you are, America".
I hope he fails, too.
Just more fakery from the fake POTUS
October 6, 2009 - 11:39 ET by R D HelmNothing about this administration is real, except for the destruction it is rapidly carrying out on the America we know.
-Dave
Fake Docs???
October 6, 2009 - 11:48 ET by sevenWas "DR" Roxanne Mayer there from the town hall meetings? She likes docs. Is related to 2. Fake as could be.
Lou Dobbs
October 6, 2009 - 11:57 ET by onelove4891I don't know if anyone saw Lou Dobbs last night, because he was very fair about the situation and it even appeared like he was mocking the white house for handing out the coats.
Besides passing out the lab
October 6, 2009 - 12:03 ET by robert108Besides passing out the lab coats, what brought those doctors there, at that time? By omission, we are led to believe that they came spontaneously, but I suspect "community organizers" at work.
Anybody know about that?
It's my understanding
October 6, 2009 - 13:06 ET by QueenMumIt's my understanding robert, that they were chosen/invited - someone from each state.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
President Obama Mistakenly Invites Opponent
October 6, 2009 - 12:15 ET by Par for the CourseI posted this earlier on the Health Care Reform Forum:
Thanks, Par
October 6, 2009 - 12:20 ET by BlondeI'm sure you noticed I re-posted your most excellent post of yesterday regarding the four docs singled out by Obama....and their campaign contributions, above.
Nicely done. Hope you don't mind the emphasis added.
I hope he fails, too.
The photo looks like alot of
October 6, 2009 - 12:19 ET by kangarooThe photo looks like alot of pyscho therapists ready to round up the loons.
Any physician in this photo-op is a traitor to his profession
October 6, 2009 - 12:24 ET by Lord ErondNo doctor in his right mind would support this garbage
"Timothy, guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge."
Timothy 6:20
Geez, what's next from the
October 6, 2009 - 12:34 ET by HockeyKidGeez, what's next from the White House Amateur Hour, accountants in green eyeshades to approve the Obamacare spending model?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
And then when he took over the circuses,
October 6, 2009 - 12:36 ET by Irene FlickAnd thense when it came to pass He took over all the circuses, the clowns were issued their government costumes.
Where can we get a list of these idiot doctors' names? I want to make sure mine is not on the list.
TERM LIMITS FOR ALL ELECTED OFFICIALS!
And, yes, I am shouting.
You must understand that
October 6, 2009 - 13:27 ET by ConservativeRexYou must understand that these folks are absolutely obsessed with the visual. I'd say they have learned their lessons well. Look at photo-ops of say 70-75 years ago, all the children holding flowers and laughing, waving for the photographers and movie cameras as their leader passed by in a parade to show how well loved he was. All of the props were in place to add that little extra to what this leader wanted to convey to the world. Visuals do work.
So are we really surprised to see 'doctors' in white coats supporting their leaders idea of what people really want? There are tons of folks who will do just that. These, are the folks who will be after our necks when it all comes apart.
Si Vis Palem, Para Bellum
They're coming to take me
October 6, 2009 - 13:57 ET by Jack BauerThey're coming to take him away ha-ha, ho-ho, he-he. To the funny farm where... et al.
Fox News had a piece on
October 6, 2009 - 13:37 ET by Radical1979Fox News had a piece on this today. There was a doctor on who said some of those in attendance didn't realize it was a big photo op. They thought they would have the opportunity to discuss health care with Obama and that's why they came.
Also, my father was a doctor and I never remember him wearing a lab coat. That's a bunch of bull$hit. It was comical looking. Only a few doctors who work in the hospital wear those things.
Typical Obama, all vanity, no substance.
Doctors and health care reform
October 6, 2009 - 13:54 ET by orogenyFirst...It was a PHOTO OP. You do know what that means, don't you? Photo ops by their very definition are staged. D'oh!
Second...Hate to burst the "all doctors hate health care reform" bubble that y'all are living in, but the New England Journal of Medicine just puiblished a survey of 2130 physicians done by theresearchers at Mt. Sinai School of Medicine. they found that 73% of the doctors surveyes supported a public insurance option. 73% favored a combination of public and private insurance and 10% favored a single-payer government plan.
Your statistics are fake
October 6, 2009 - 13:57 ET by BlondeI'm not going to even bother to refute them here.
Six months ago we began a very reasoned discussion of the health care debate over on the Forums.....go read and learn. There are dozens of links that refute your silly statistics.
Take them elseshere, cause that dog's not going to hunt, here.
I hope he fails, too.
LOL
October 6, 2009 - 14:08 ET by orogenyYeah, I know, the commies at My. Sinai and the New England Journal are faking this stuff so that they can join the socialist overlords once capitalism falls. Or are they the Nazis who want to join the fascist overlords...I can't keep straight who's playing Goldstein this week.
http://www.npr.org/t...
Goldstein was the catch-all
October 6, 2009 - 14:10 ET by Jack BauerGoldstein was the catch-all enemy of the commie state.
Golly...
October 6, 2009 - 14:17 ET by orogenythanks for explaining that. I was using Goldstein as a metaphor for the right wing's increasingly erratic explanation as to why they hate Obama. One day he's a communist and the next day he's a fascist. Or is it the other way around?
Well a fascist takes over
October 6, 2009 - 18:05 ET by Dan The Man 2Well a fascist takes over private enterprise, sounds like Duh Vain One to me.
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orogeny: Did you consider
October 7, 2009 - 12:58 ET by QueenMumorogeny: Did you consider Blonde's suggestion re: the Forum topic on this issue? Or do you prefer to simply spew talking points without consideration for the facts? Just wondering.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
Typo
October 6, 2009 - 15:11 ET by orogenyThat should read "63% of the doctors surveyed supported a public insurance option". Total of both is 73%.
that poll
October 6, 2009 - 15:27 ET by katainkentwas a voluntary response poll. 5000 were sent out and 2130 were returned.
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A recent Investor's Business Daily series (over 1300 hand-
October 6, 2009 - 16:12 ET by traderjameswritten, mailed-in responses from doctors, not sure if they were in their white coats at the time of writing), 45% respondents said that they would leave the profession, or retire early, if the bill passes. No rhetoric, no theory, just honest responses from some folks on the front lines.
Why? That makes
October 6, 2009 - 16:18 ET by LeondeuxWhy? That makes absolutely no sense.
Leondeux, How about
October 6, 2009 - 17:39 ET by hydrodynDMLeondeux,
How about actually sitting down with a few doctors and talking to them about this before deciding that it makes "no sense".
Ivw been talking to mine
October 6, 2009 - 18:07 ET by Dan The Man 2Ivw been talking to mine and they all say Obamacare is a bad thing.
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They get paid either way,
October 7, 2009 - 12:44 ET by LeondeuxThey get paid either way, whether the patient has private or public insurance.
So what's the difference?
The difference is about 20% on the dollar!
October 7, 2009 - 12:47 ET by MightyMouth"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Link please
October 7, 2009 - 12:48 ET by LeondeuxLink please
It's an attention getting
October 7, 2009 - 13:02 ET by MightyMouthIt's an attention getting low ball. The point is with private health insurance the providers can negotiate with the Insurance companies. With Obama care they cant. How else is Obama going to get the costs down, by paying less to the providers of course!
And don't come back and say they are going to get ride of fraud and waste in public plans to cut costs. If they could do that they already would have right?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
Leondeux, OK, here's two
October 7, 2009 - 14:44 ET by hydrodynDMLeondeux,
OK, here's two things brought up to me by a friend of mine who's an MD:
1) The large increase in patents. Currently, there are days that's she's off work, days she's on call and day's she's in the office. How will all that change if the number of patients assigned to her is doubled or tripled? Given that she's got a family, I'm thinking that's a legitimate concern.
2) The hospital where she works actually getting reimbursed by the government. See, if you talk to folks in hospitals around the country, you might find out there are hospitals that haven't been reimbursed for Medicare coverage for over a year. Some doctors think that isn't going to improve with the new system.
Again - why don't you actually talk to a doctor or two about this topic instead of assuming you actually know something about a profession that I'm sure you've never worked in.
Sleepover
October 6, 2009 - 14:20 ET by sevenDocs invited to sleepover and audition for "death Panel" openings.
How many docs have no rounds to make Monday morning?
Well, the docs with few
October 6, 2009 - 16:20 ET by Radical1979Well, the docs with few skills, or lousy bedside manner, wouldn't be to busy to go to D.C. And these are the doctors who will be for Obamacare. They'll benefit because they'll be assigned patients who won't have a choice about who their doctor is.
There are losers in every profession, and obama found his group.
"But I play one on TV"
October 6, 2009 - 16:45 ET by StarAZSeriously? Real-life medical doctors agreed to this?
What Next?
October 6, 2009 - 17:29 ET by slickwillie2001The Bamster's meeting with the Plumber's Union next week should be a sight.
slick--
October 6, 2009 - 17:52 ET by Kat Outta the BagIs that some sort of wise crack?
Its more of a leak to find a
October 6, 2009 - 18:08 ET by Dan The Man 2Its more of a leak to find a drip. LOL
Know how to keep a Troll in suspense? Ill tell ya in the morning.
Plumbers for Obamacare
October 7, 2009 - 12:55 ET by QueenMumslick: I'm willing to bet our friend Joe won't be invited. Wonder what White House Wardrobe will be passing out at that meeting.
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
- P.J. O'Rourke
I am outraged!!
October 6, 2009 - 19:08 ET by DoktorFrankenImagine, someone that poses as a doctor!
Oh . . . . never mind.
Hey, propoganda beats truth every time when your truth stinks
October 6, 2009 - 19:21 ET by Thinking.ManQuite honestly I am surprised that they didnt have the Obama band on the upper arm, you know kind of like another dicator had back in the 1940's
Fifty years ago these loons
October 6, 2009 - 21:49 ET by RR GOPFifty years ago these loons running things now would have been running from the men in white coats...and Senator McCarthy.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
white coats
October 7, 2009 - 19:20 ET by cooperscopycooperscopy....It must be halloween early at the White House. The president made sure all those docs were garbed in White Coats. It's funny he didn't have them wearing latex gloves, cause I think that's what he's trying to do to us....http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/