The View's Whoopi Goldberg on Polanski: 'It Wasn't Rape-Rape'

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The View's Whoopi Goldberg yesterday offered the most outrageous and despicable defense of child rapist and Hollywood director Roman Polanski yet: "It wasn't rape-rape." That's right. Goldberg tried to claim that Polanksi drugging and having sex with a thirteen year old girl, who repeatedly uttered 'no' to the predator, does not qualify as 'actual' rape (video embedded below the fold).

Polanksi apologists have tried since he was arrested in Switzerland Sunday to excuse his actions on the grounds that he was traumatized by his horrible experiences as a Jew in Nazi-occupied Poland or that he has endured enough punishment since his conviction in 1978. But Goldberg's defense is so far the most insensitive, oafish attempt for an excuse yet (video embedded below the fold):

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I know it wasn't rape-rape... All I'm trying to get you to understand, is when we're talking about what someone did, and what they were charged with, we have to say what it actually was not what we think it was...

Initially he was charged with rape, and then he pled guilty to having sex with a minor, okay. And then he went to jail, and when they let him out, he said "you know what, this guy's going to give me a hundred years in jail, I'm not staying." And that's why he left...

What we were talking about was what he did, and that's what I wanted to clear up, and that's all I wanted to clear up. 'Cause I don't like it when we're passionate about something and we don't have all the facts...

We're a different kind of society. We see things differently. The world sees 13 year olds and 14 year olds in the rest of Europe... not everybody agrees with the way we see things...
Yes, Whoopi, let's talk about what actually happened, rather than "what we think it was". And who better to recount it than the victim herself. These are excepts from the grand jury testimony of Samantha Gailey. I warn you, her account is extremely graphic and disturbing, but it is important that we see just how horrible this event was if we are to understand the absurdity and utter crassness of Goldberg's comments.
Q: Did you take a quaalude?
A: I took part of it.
Q: Where did you get this part?
A: [Polanski] gave it to me.
[...]
Q: After he kissed you did he say anything?
A: No.
Q: Did you say anything?
A: No, besides I was just going, "No. Come on, let's go home."
Q: What was said after you indicated that you wanted to go home when you were sitting on the couch?
A: He said "I'll take you home soon."
Q: Then what happened?
A: Then he went down and he started performing cuddliness.
Q: What does that mean?
A: It means he went down on me or he placed his mouth on my vagina.
[...]
Q: What happened after that?
A: He started to have intercourse with me.
Q: What do you mean by intercourse?
A: He placed his penis in my vagina.
Q: What did you say, if anything, before he did that?
A: I was mostly just on and off saying, "No, stop." But I wasn't fighting really because I, you know, there was no one else there and I had no place to go.
Q: What did he say, if anything?
A: He didn't answer me when I said, "No."
[...]
A: I think he said something like right after I said I was not on the pill, right before he said, "Oh, I won't come inside of you then." And I just went--and he goes--and then he put me--wait. Then he lifted my legs up farther and he went in through my anus.
Q: When you say he went in your anus, what do you mean by that?
A: He put his penis in my butt.
Q: Did he say anything at that time?
A: No.
Q: Did you resist at that time?
A: A little bit, but not really because--(pause.)
Q: Because what?
A: Because I was afraid of him.

[...]
Q: Do you know what a climax is?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you know whether he had a climax?
A: Yes.
Q: And how do you know that?
A: Because I could kind of feel it and it was in my underwear. It was in my underwear. It was on my butt and stuff.
Q: When you say that, you believe that he climaxed in your anus?
A: Yes.
Is that a clear enough account of the facts, Whoopi? Does that satisfy your desire to know what "it actually was"? It was most definitely "rape-rape". It was a disgusting man drugging a young girl, and then forcing her to have sex with him even while she repeatedly said "no" and "stop". I've sat through enough college sexual assault information sessions to know that that is rape in every sense of the word.

Polanski was convicted of unlawful sex with a minor, but only because he struck a plea bargain in exchange for the dismissal of charges of rape, sodomy, molestation, and giving drugs to a minor. So if you want to know "what it actually was," it does little good to examine his conviction.

And yes, Polanski "left," as Goldberg so mildly phrased his fleeing from justice, when he realized that he could spend a long time in prison. Maybe Whoopi's right, that "not everyone agrees with the way we see things" in this country. That would certainly explain why so many are jumping to defend this convicted sexual predator and condemn those who seek his incarceration.

That others, say the French, may not agree with harsh punishment for Polanski does not change the fact that in the United States, we punish such atrocities perpetrated against children. Maybe Whoopi would be more at home in a country that does not, and that considers the drugging and forcible sexual penetration of a 13 year old girl something other than "rape-rape."

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I am afraid

I am afraid that Whoopi takes her name too seriously.

Every Time I Think The Dumb Animal Can't Get Any Dumber....

...she opens her mouth and does it again.

Any woman who watches The View is a sick disgusting dog who hates her own gender.

IT was RAPE - RAPE

The choice of words was VERY appropriate. Read the transcript and it is vaginal RAPE and then anal RAPE. So yes RAPE - RAPE it WAS you dumb celebtard!

Great post. Someone should

Great post. Someone should say it to Whoopie's face.

A Reminder

Someone needs to remind Whoopi that the President isn't BLACK-BLACK.  Her reaction would be revealing.

Today show was one sided as

Today show was one sided as I have heard. Total apologist story saying even the victim forgave him so what's the problem... Total lack of a factual presentation so one can make an objective opinion. Quality of information way worse than tabloids!

M-B

My how feminism has changed

Whoopi helped throw two women political candidates under the bus, so we no longer have to take women seriously in politics. Now we have completely redefined sex and rape. With Bill Clinton, it wasn't about lying under oath, it was just sex. With Polanski, drugging a chick, getter her drunk and playing the back nine is now considered casual sex. My how far we've come in the last 20 years!

Repugnant cow

One great thing about this Polanski business is how it exposes the truly putrid individuals that molder  in the Hollywood cesspool.  They do not realize how their knee-jerk defense of the artiste-perv makes them look.  This is a gift that has kept on giving for several days.

I wonder what she would say

I wonder what she would say if it was her daughter? 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

And I wonder what she would say

And I wonder what she would say if the perp was some other older entertainment type - like maybe Andy Williams. 

Or if the perp was Rush

Or if the perp was Rush Limbaugh, I think they'd be wishing him a painful death, but because they like the rapist, the female victim is thrown under the bus. Gotta love liberal feminism!

Same thing happened with Bill Clinton. Since the liberal feminists loved him, the women who claimed he sexually harrassed or raped them they were imediately accused of being liars and called trailer trash.

Yet these same feminists didn't have the same knee jerk criticism of the "vicitm" in the Duke Univerisity rape case. Even after she was a proven liar, the left STILL thought the white guys deserved everything they got.

Maybe The View should book Polanski's vicitm as a guest and see if she concurs she wasn't "rape-raped".

Or herself at that

Or herself at that age.

 

"Steady."  -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews

We'll never know...

...what Whoopi would say if it was her daughter who was raped by a pig like Roman Polanski because Whoopi ABORTED all (or most) of her children.  Need I say more about what kind of a human being Whoopi Goldberg is? Why anyone watches that stupid show "The View" is way beyond me. 

NAMBLA next?

What's next? Is she going to advocate for the despicable NAMBLA? Even consensual sex with an adult and a child of 13 is called rape and this was clearly not consensual. Who cares what they do in Europe, why doensn't she point out how some countries still allow girls of 13 and younger to be married off to adult men. No sense of shame in the hollow shell named Whoopie, even when the victim is a fellow female.

NAMBLA Spokesperson Whoopi Goldberg

Get them before they're eight or it's too late! - NAMBLA motto.

I could see her advocating for 'consensual' sex between adults and children. Being the same gender is not that big a leap for what she's already advocated here.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

typical whoopie

This is from the same woman who defended Michael Vick by saying that people in the south were too stupid to know that dog fighting is wrong.

She defends her fellow libs at all cost.

 

candance,

Wow, I didn't know she had said that.

What an idiot she is.

-Dave

The election of 2010 will be our last chance to save our republic. -Neal Boortz

Now, candance...are we sure

Now, candance...are we sure we're not putting just a little rhetorical flourish on Whoopie's wording?

Jer

rhetorical flourish

Here is the quote:

WHOOPIE: One of the things I haven't heard anybody say is, you know, from his background, this is not an unusual thing for where he comes from. It's like cock fighting in Puerto Rico, you know, there are certain things that are indicative to certain parts of our country.

JOY: What part of the country is this?

WHOOPIE: He's from the south. He's from the deep south, and dog fighting is - a lot - there's a lot of it.

JOY: This was for dog torturing and dog murdering, though.

WHOOPIE: Unfortunately, it's part of the thing.

JOY: Part of the fun?

WHOOPIE: I don't think it's the fun, I don't think they see it that way. You know, I mean, you're a dog lover, but for a lot of people dogs are sport. It's not - and so I just thought it was interesting cause it seemed like a light went off in his head when he realized that this was something that the entire country really didn't appreciate, didn't like.

 

First of all, Vick was born in a suburb of Virginia Beach, hardly what anyone calls the deep south. Secondly, I live in Virginia right now and have most of my family in the south, and dogs are not treated like trash. In fact most of those "hillbilly rednecks" value their dogs as much as a family member.  

Whoopie grew up in New York city. Only in that kind of world does Virginia Beach count as the deep south.

Whoopie was defending the

Whoopie was defending the indefensible.  I live in the south and have all of my life.  I abhor the thought of dog fighting for sport, and I don't know anyone who doesn't.

Still, her remarks were not quite as explicitly demeaning as you first suggested.  Contemptible, nontheless.

Jer

Woe unto Whoopi . .

As God's Word says:

 

Isaiah 5:20a Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil . . .  KJV

Hypocrisy...

The heights of liberal hypocrisy never fail to astound me. 

_________________________________________

"An armed society is a polite society" -- Robert A. Heinlein

Again Bloggers Use Language Incorrectly.

She wasn't a child. She was a teenager in other definition a minor. Stop using the wrong word just to make it seem worse. I'm not saying he is NOT guilty. Far from it. I want to see him thrown in prison because he committed a crime against a minor but really please stop saying "child rapist" because he didn't rape a child. He raped a minor/teen.

SHE WAS A CHILD. 

SHE WAS A CHILD. 

Sorry but my 13 year old,

Sorry but my 13 year old, 8th Grader, is a child.  What a moranic comment.  

 

What is a child? A child is

What is a child? A child is a human being that is not an adult. You are trying to make the crime seem more acceptable. Why are you doing that? Do you have skeletons of your own? Do you find doing this horrific act with a 13-year-old really not that bad in the first place? You can tell a lot about people depending on what they defend. 

And guys, this was INEVITABLE. After all, the NOW crowd made the case for raping of adult women during Clinton's tenure as POTUS. There's nowhere else for their ethics to go but downward, so of course they will defend raping children next. 

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Use language incorrectly?

What about rape?  Rather than say "raped a child" or "raped a teen/minor" don't you think "rape" is bad enough??

-Jon

From dictionary.com (Websters):

  1. A person between birth and puberty.

  2. A person who has not attained maturity or the age of legal majority.

Why are you soft-peddling it?  She was far from a persn capable of acting responsibly and defensively in such a position.  Your insistance of using the word "minor" indicates that she was the same level of maturity as a seventeen-year old, or older.

A thirteen year old is a child.  And as "teens" go, she was barely a teenager, by months only.  Perhaps in comparison to a four year old, one might for clarifications sake call her a teen rather than a child, but that's about the only situation where the word "child" MAY not apply.

Excellent Point

You hit the nail right on the head.

 Now we just wait for some Lefty o come on and say that "the fact that you looked it up in the dictionary indicates to me that you're stretching a bit"...

Ah, I envy their ability to hide from reality by tucking their heads up their rears. Must come with having no spine.

"In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."

-John Adams

someloudthunder

Way to focus on the important aspects of the story. 

Try this definition and see if it works for ya:

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a child as "every human being below the age of 18 years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier."[2] Biologically, a child is anyone in the developmental stage of childhood, between infancy and adulthood

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

...

So, someloudthunder, you were equally upset when liberals yelled about "our kids" being over in Iraq, right?  Rather than their being grown men and women who exercised their right to choose to join the military, right?  

 

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."
  --  GK Chesterton

That someloudthunder must

That someloudthunder must be the rocks cracking together between your ears.  If you're not defending the guy, why even bring up such a ridiculously weak point? 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Sooo in the government run

Sooo in the government run health care and the ships legislation a child is defined as 26 and younger.. You saying BO is wrong.. Shame on you I am going to report you to the Whitehouse for spreading lies on the net… Oh forgot that site is down… I wonder if the FBI has nothing to do today…

someloudthunder...Are you serious???

Thirteen is not a child? Do you have children??? (With thinking like yours, I hope not...)

FYI, thunder...The legal definition of a child is as follows:

The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child defines a child as "every human being below the age of 18 years" and biologically, a child is anyone in the developmental stage of childhood, between infancy and adulthood.

You wanna try that one again???

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

it wasn't rape-rape.......errr redundant! whoopee and the remark

but but but......13 be a ol ho in the 'hood!  ;)  Guess one rape is ok, but rape-rape....nope we dozent do dat!!   wadda maroon!!

Stooopid.

Yeah, Whoopie's a real genius. An adult man sedated a 13 year girl, pushed her onto a bed, jammed his erect penis into her anus, and ejaculated into her. Nope, doesn't sound like rape-rape to me, either.

 Guess it was no biggie when Whoppie's father did it to her. And of course that has nothing to do with why she looks like a lesbian homeless person, today.

Woopie probably doesn't

Woopie probably doesn't consider it rape-rape unless he hits her with a brick. I used to think Woopie had half a brain... but this one takes the cake!

"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"

 

definition of a child

SCHIP covers "children" who are in their 20s. When Bush was in office, liberals routinely told us that "kids" were dying in combat.

Don't move the goal post now because it embarrasses a lefty.

 

Are you nuts?

A 13-year-old is indeed a child.

thunder you are a class A

thunder you are a class A fu*king idiot.  You can not possibly be as stupid as you come across.  Then again.

Hit and run...

TROLL.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

SLT

I'm thinking of sticking my behind in your face and giving you some loud thunder of my own.

If you haven't noticed yet, people do not parse here.  He is a rapist, she was a child.  It doesn't get any worse or factual than that.

There was also commentary on

There was also commentary on the show that day that the girl's parent(s) were there and gave consent, or Polanski had consent from them.  Vile.  Even if her parents gave consent they can't give consent for someone to rape their daughter, and Polanski would know that.  Let's also not forget this was 30 years ago, I doubt even 30 years ago Europeans were raping young girls.

Legally, parents cannot give

Legally, parents cannot give consent to rape a 13-year-old and, for the sake of argument, even if they did, if the person says "No" then rape occurs regardless.

30 years ago?

I wouldn't bet on it!! especially in france!

What an utterly disgusting individual she is.

I wonder what her opinion would be if one replaced the perpetrator in this case with the name, "George Bush", and the victim with "your daughter".

The woman is

The woman is despicable.

Her statements support my contention that liberals have no moral foundation and no objective sense of right and wrong.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

Disgusting

Two points:

1) Polanski is a pedofile who raped a child...period.  Why defend the actions of this scumbag?

2) Would Whoppi be saying these things if it were her daughter?

I beleive someone asked

I beleive someone asked Whoopi about her daughter having sex at 13, and her response was that it depended on the situation.  I have to assume that situation would NOT be with a man in his 40's who drugged her and continued on despite her protests.  But since it wasn't Whoopi's daughter she's o.k. with it.

I think whoopi, Debra Winger, and some of these other defenders  of Polanski hope to be in his next movie.

BRAD90956...

 Your 2nd point is the perfect question. Think back & remember how bad Michael Dukakis looked when that raging right winger Bernard Shaw about the death penalty & would he still oppose it even if someone had raped & killed his wife Kitty. That & the Willie Horton ad about prison furloughs nuked Dukakis, thank God.

This also came up when Sotomeyor between my dad & I when the Ricci case came up when discussing her nomination. My sister was told by 3M years ago that they were making an effort to hire more minorities, they were not going to hire her. She was qualified, but was passed over for someone based on race, & this was some 25 years ago. Even my dad, who thinks he is a liberal(he does'nt understand that the hardliners & marxists have taken over in the DNC. He is too damn stubburn to reasoned with as of now), but remembered back when she was not hired & the reason. Because the next person to be hurt by these sorts of things could always be you.

 

"...How blind can you be, don't you see...

...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."  

Nightwish

....

...Waiting patiently for the unqualified condemnation from the National Organization for Women.  <<Crickets>> 

Signed, Corny McPoo 

Do Something Amazing!

Damn corny!!!~~~

you snuck in there ahead of me! GMTA...

Sorry...

Honestly, I was hoping to be proven wrong. 

Signed, Corny McPoo 

Do Something Amazing!

Sshhh... hear that?

wait...nope....nuthin. I thought I heard the one on the far right, but than again, maybe not.

Sarge

Please give warnings before the next link to a beeotch-o-rama.
;-)

They're all smiles until the four of them are questioned on camera about Polanski, I'm betting.

It should be about money

Just consider, if we change the definition of rape-rape, redefine victim, think of the money we could save from our health care. We could tell millions of victims that they were not raped-raped, "we was just having fun", we would not need psychiatrist, trauma therapist, children and womens shelters, fewer cops, no child protective services, fewer prisons, fewer probation officers. The list goes on. Just think of the money we would save on health care in the ER for these nonvictims of rape-rape. We may even save enough money to pay for abortions and illegals. Wow.

And the view's cast of

And the view's cast of characters aren't stupid-stupid, you know? Not cow-like stupid -- oh no, not like that. Why, the view's ladies are simply representative of what passes for liberal-stupidness in today's world. People who make Alice in Wonderland normal by comparison.

___________________________________ 

"mmm, mmm, mm. Barrack-Hussain-Obama." - The liberals cool-aid drinking song

There aren't words to

There aren't words to describe the depth of depravity revealed in Goldberg's statement.  Just what is "rape-rape", praytell?  If it wasn't "rape-rape", then it was just what?  Date rape?  Which would mean Goldberg condones dating between 40-something men and 13-year-old girls as well as date rape.  Drug-enabled rape? Similar implications.  She didn't say "no" forcefully enough?  Nice defense, considering the effects of drugs and alcohol.

I used to think "Whoopi" was just another clueless Hollyweirdo (anyone who names herself after a flatulence sound-effect gimmick...).  Now I understand that she's a demented, twisted, sick individual who defends the sexual victimization of children.  We see you, Caryn Elaine Johnson, and we are disgusted.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

If it wasn't "rape-rape",

If it wasn't "rape-rape", then it was just what?

Child rape. [Read that Whoops...]

how she thinks

Come on, I thought we had an idea of how she really thinks, remember, she asked John McCain if she was going to have to worry about going back INTO slavery, when there's been no record of having been a slave herself.(to point out the absurdity of her statement)

Ugh.  You know, I used to like Star Trek The Next Generation, but with her on it and knowing how she thinks, I won't be able to watch any episode beyond the first season unless it's the ones where she DIDN'T make an appearance.  That cuts it down to.....maybe 50 or less? (out of 150+ total)  Glad I didn't buy the dvd sets.

Boy, when people disappoint you, it's bad enough, but when they find a new level of being worse, that takes talent.

-Jon

But it is really not

But it is really not "slavery-slavery"

Whoopie has finally lost it...

Whatever shred of class, brains and moral sensibility she has ever had (negligible though it has been) is now obviously completely gone. 

"It wasn't Rape-Rape"? What the hell does that mean? A 44 year- old man drugs, forces sex on and sodomizes a thirteen year-old girl, and she says it wasn't rape? Is she insane? What exactly is her definition of rape? What is the matter with her? 

I don't watch The View, and never have because I can't stand the liberal BS and stupidity of the dim-witted sows on the show...It'll be interesting to see if the moronic fans of this show will finally have had enough of this crap, and voice their objection to Whoopie's insane and bizarre take on this subject...If this doesn't cause some of them to take exception to Whoopie and The View, then nothing will.  

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

Beautiful takedown, Lachlan

Liberals are demented, truly.  I simply cannot understand how that thought process works. 

Que'lle idiot!

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

I should take issue with

I should take issue with you calling libs demented. I understand your point, therefore I won't.

This demented one isn't a lib. 

WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,

My view,

While I'm not usually one to call for this, I think ABC should demand that Whoopi Goldberg apologize post-haste (even if the idiot doesn't feel the need to) or be fired. Or both.

If ABC did fire her, Whoopi

If ABC did fire her, Whoopi would have her own show on MSNBC within a short time afterwards probably to replace Ed what's-his-name.

"Father Polanski"....

More than a couple of columnists the past few days have countered the sounds of crickets and collective yawns coming from Hollyweird and the Left with this question:

Would their level of concern and rush-to-justice perhaps be a be a tad bit different if it wasn't Polanski the Producer, but Polanski the Priest?

You bet your vestments it would be, buckaroo!!

Whatta lousy bunch of hypocrites....

 

"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects... 

wow

You are Pathetic if you keep watching these "women"!!  They are sad.

iPhone loves Whoopi

and so does America. This is what America has become. There are no such things as crimes anymore, only 'mistakes'. The ACLU has even anointed itself as the de facto lobby for child molestors, going from state to state knocking down any of the Megan's Laws that it can.

I can't wait until America breaks apart. Hopefully, I'll end up in one of the good parts. 

(Keep in mind that if Polanski's victim was black, then he'd be the #1 Most Wanted and most vilified 'racist' in the land.)

Whoopdee Doo is not

Whoopdee Doo is not talented-talented, or smart-smart, or decent-decent.  She's a no-talent slime-bag idiot whose opinion is worthless.

Well now we have another

Well now we have another parade of sickos from Hollywood who are asking for clemency for Roman Polansky who had sex with a 13 year old girl. I guess in this case they want us to forgive and forget. However, when Congressman Mark Foley was exchanging emails with a former Congressional Page (who was over 18 at the time the emails were sent) there was a nonstop drumbeat of outrage from Hollywood and the mainstream media. By no means do I excuse Foley's actions, but there is no evidence that he ever actually had sex with underage boys. Isn't it amazing how the outrage volume is adjusted depending on the politics of the alleged perpetrator.

Tom Paine...Correction...Polanski...

didn't "have sex with a thirteen year-old girl"...He raped a thirteen year-old girl...By law, a thirteen year-old cannot legally consent to sex...This was not sex...It was rape...She was a child at the time, and, as if it even mattered because of her age, she said NO!

That is rape.  

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

True - That makes his

True - That makes his actions even sicker, if that is possible

No, it was "statutory rape"

No, it was "statutory rape" which means even IF the girl was begging for it, you are still convicted and you are still a criminal.  Add to the fact that alcohol or drugs were involved and you are a dirty-rapist-S.O.B.

gotta wonder about people

I wonder how the audience members felt in that studio when the fine loving folks of the View declared that rape wasn't that bad by virtue of her statement?

I would hope that someone in the audience, at least ONE person would have voiced his or her disagreement.

-Jon

Liberals are very strange

Liberals are very strange people.  They stick up for rapists (Polanski), terrorists (William Ayers), adulterers (Clinton, Edwards, JFK) but by golly, you better talk politically correct!!

values in life

It sickens me to see how liberals replace values on some things with value on others that a normal person would find appalling.  Example, a normal person would find what happened to the 13 year old appalling or worse, but a liberal uttering a statement such as that obviously does not.

I will admit that I used to have "liberal" friends, but after last week in a discussion I do not wish to repeat, I no longer will associate with these liberals and any liberals that I might meet in the future, I will have NO desire to have any kind of recourse with them.  Beyond polite conversation of course.  But association?

HELL NO.  This truly is a sickness that is evil to behold.  I'm tired of it.

-Jon

Aggravated....

 
Add to the fact that alcohol or drugs were involved and you are a dirty-rapist-S.O.B.

Many states consider alcohol/drugs to up the charge to "aggravated".... whatever they want to call it*...

*Some states don't have 'statutory rape' laws, per se. It's "criminal sexual assault/abuse of a minor" due to legalese. 

WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,

Ok, Whoppi, let's accept

Ok, Whoppi, let's accept that a male dopping up a female with drugs in order to lower her ability to resist is acceptable for you and the rest who buy into that argument.  So by your (low) standards, then it would be ok for someone to drug you when they decide they want to get their rocks off?  How about your daughter, you think that would be ok for someone to do that to her?  Or is this a race thing?  It's ok for a white girl to be taken advantage of but not a black girl?  Where's the line in the sand that says it's not ok to touch someone without their permission?  Are giving drugs the issue or not?  Maybe you think rape is acceptable under any circumstances?  We need some clarification here.  When is having sex without the permission of the other person NOT rape?  When drugs are used?  When the person is under 18?  When the person is over 18?  Does it depend on who is making the unwanted advances?  What part of rape is NOT rape?  Common Whoppi, answer the questions.

The bottom line here for Whoppi's indefensible position is apparently she believes a person who has public stature (famous film-maker) can make unwanted advances on anyone he pleases because he is famous.  Drawing this to the logical conclusion, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton and Roman Polanski could make advances on any woman and not be considered inappropriate because they are part of the liberal elite and therefore not an ordinary sleeze bag. 

What Whoppi is really advocating is the abritrary and capricious enforcement of the Law, where privilege determines guilt or innocense. That's not justice for the victim but the tyranny of the privileged.  It's no wonder that liberals never held Ted Kennedy responsible for MaryJo's death, he is so privileged the law doesn't apply to him.  Just like the current crop of corrupt liberal politicians Rangel, Schumer, Obama and the rest profiting off the system with no accountability at the expense of the country.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

I know this will get me in a lot of trouble... But whatever..

Would they be saying the same things if it happened to Obamas daughter? We know by Letterman it is ok for Palins daughter.

From what I see it is fine depending on who you are, what political party you belong to and possibly skin colour. So the next step is to condone murder because someone avoided jail for many years?

Whole thing makes me sick...... 

"1/20/2013 The end of a Error"

This shows the incredible hypocrisy of liberals/progressives

Polanski plead GUILTY to sex with a minor in his trial. But as the transcript shows it was NOT just statutory rape but actual violent rape against the girl's pleas of NO! He had drugged her so she was unable to fight back, which also shows premeditation. Then he fled the country between the trial and the sentencing. He is an amoral sociopath and a monster who thinks he is above the law!

The fact that the LA DA allowed the plea just shows their incompetence and that it took 31 years to apprehend this criminal fugitive when everybody knew where he was living also shows their apathy. It does nothing to lessen or minimize what Polanski is guilty of.

All of the Hollywood liberals who are making excuses and defending this monster show that they really don't believe in the law when it is one of their "elite club members" who is involved.

 

Throw 'da bums out!!!

no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!

www.loyaltoliberty.com

This brings back memories

Today's treatement of Roman Pulanski, by the liberal media, brings back memories of similar treatement of Bill Clinton and his infamous quip:  "You better put some ice on that lip." 

 "I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber.  Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them."  Judge Smails 

there is a terrible

place in hell for anyone that tries to justify this crap.

____________________________________________ 
The Emperor, he has no clothes

Wouldn't ya just love to slap those glasses off her nose!!!

Whoopi claims is wasn't Rape-Rape and reveals she's Dumb-Dumb...

Dumb - Dumb Whoppi has a mental disorder......liberalism

If you did this to my 13 yr old daughter, you would be dead - dead.

Hunt you down like a rabid dog, here or in Europe.  

Just Askin'

Whoopi, how old is Obama's oldest daughter?

It seems Ms. Goldberg lacks

It seems Ms. Goldberg lacks the ability to distinguish a movie script from real life. I suggest you send her the Grand Jury testimony you posted here, Lachlan. Let her try to respond to that in such a flippant manner.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."

 

—Margaret Thatcher

not rape-rape so it must have been...

...consensual-rape or agreed-rape or assenting-rape or harmonious-rape or of one mind-rape or unquestioned-rape or accidental-rape... yeah that's it accidental rape!

Like saying "it wasn't murder-murder officer, it was accidental-murder.  The gun kind of just went off in my hand!"

v

let us not forget

that this man jumped bail and fled the country and has been living as a fugitive all these years! that alone should put him in the slammer with a guy who won't rape-rape him (ok maybe just a little)

 

 

 

 

"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville

I believe the statute of

I believe the statute of limitations don't apply for fugitives from justice. The best Polansky can hope for if he is extradited back to the U.S. is a very liberal California judge. And if he doesn't get off the hook with a liberal California judge, expect the 11th circuit court of appeals to get him off the hook since it's made up of some of the most inept group of uber-liberal activists justices in the country.

Besides, the statute of

Besides, the statute of limitations only applies to how long after an act a person can be tried.  Polanski was tried, and convicted.  He fled before sentencing.

Re Statute

Further to your point, being tried and convicted is a bonus. If you are simply arrested and charged with a crime, the statute of limitations no longer applies to you should you escape jail or skip bail.

If he makes it back to the US, he will likely face new added charges for fleeing the country. That can't possibly be a freebie.

Goldberg's hypocriticalism

If memory serves me, I seem to remember Goldberg condemning the Duke Lacrosse team for a rape that never occurred and also jumping on the Al Sharpton/Tawana Brawley rape hoax bandwagon. And then never apologizing for her condemnations. I am willing to bet there are many more examples of Goldberg condemning rape and rapists which reveals her hypocricy even further.

either or

So she condemns a group of guys for something that never happened but doesn't condemn someone for a heinous crime that happened.

Got it.  Liberalism in action, that's the ticket.  I wanna grow up and be like that......ugh, that makes me sick to think about.

-Jon

It's all cool 'cause he's

It's all cool 'cause he's this ultraliberal artist and we should all sympathize with the fact he's some sort of freak that raped some girl. It's all cool, the victim should have been honored to have been raped by someone like that.

Give him a pass!  He didn't mean it.

 
LOL!  Feminazis making excuses for a guy that admitted to rape before he decided he didn't want to go to jail and escaped to Europe.  

Yeah, where ARE the girls

Yeah, where ARE the girls from N.A.G.?

I am stupider after watching the View clip

Honestly, I feel stupid after watching this clip.  Watching these abject morons try to justify leniency for a man who raped and sodomized a 13 year old has made me stupider. 

I need to try to improve myself.  I will be watching professional wrestling tonight.  The View makes pro wrestling look like Shakespeare in comparison. 

Sorry Whoopi, your comment

Sorry Whoopi, your comment is dumb-dumb.  Not smart-dumb, or dumb-smart, but dumb-dumb.

 

Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.

Ronald Reagan

rape?

I thought if you said no and the sex continued, it was considered rape?  She was a child in my book, and even if she was an adult, she still said no.

What other definition is WG using?  I guess rape-rape must mean if you're a famous person, no one has the right to say no to you, therefore it's not "real rape".

 

 

 

It's movie-rape.  Everyone

It's movie-rape.  Everyone knows that in Hollywood, the director gets what he wants. Whoopi's just being the professional that she is. Pimp, that is.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Apparently we still have to

Apparently we still have to be nice to these Libtards for some reason, so I'll refrain from further comment.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Whoolie and "Rape-Rape"

Whoopie, when you load an underage girl (or any female) up with drugs and alcohol to the point where they cannot do ANYTHING to defend themselves. THAT IS RAPE.  Quit defending this pervert.  What would you have done if it was YOUR daughter.  Give her crap for getting high? 

Whoopi isn't too smart-smart

It was rape, you pin-headed hosebag.  As a 'comedienne', you're disgusting.  And as a 'human being', you're a disgrace.  Can't you and Janeane Gabarfalo just go away already?

If she were a man...

If Whoopi had been a man there would have been 24 hour news coverage of the outcry from the "It wasn't rape-rape" comment, jokes about "it wasn't rape-rape" would go along with every mention of his name by comedians and when he died decades later his obituary would remind us of this one black spot on his life.

Good point, Mad One. Whoopi

Good point, Mad One. Whoopi and the rest of the View crew are poor representatives of the female gender. This sort of attitude only encourages bad behavior toward women.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."

—Margaret Thatcher

Hey Whoopie

 I have had enough. I am going "Serena" all over you.

I'm curious, did any of the

I'm curious, did any of the liberal weasels on the View comment on the ACORN expose' when the undercover conservative film-maker posed as a pimp and prostitute team claiming to have under age Salvadoran girls ready for use once they got a loan buy a house for a brothel and got advice how to hide their illicit business?  Whose side did they take on that one?

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.

Get a clue, Whoopie

I believe Whoopie was confused with statutory rape vs. rape. (I'm being nice, since I already know she is an idiot)

I believe it was Whoopie who, in the video, said: They had sex before (she was drugged), which automatically makes it statutory rape because she was under 18 and he was over 18. By the way, California's age of consent is 18 and has been for decades. 

Statutory rape is when a minor has sex with somebody who isn't a minor. To my knowledge, there are varying degrees. For instance, if somebody is a minor, say 17, and has sex with somebody who is 18 the penalty is less severe than if were a 30 year old with a 15 year old. Since the minor can't consent, it is rape. Even if the child was a willing party it is still considered rape since they aren't of consenting age.

Rape is unlawful intercourse. She said she didn't want to have sex with him and said she resisted. He continued. It is rape. She also happens to be 13 making him a pedophile. It is "rape-rape," Whoopie, do some research.

By the way, statutory rape in California is called unlawful intercourse: http://www.sexlaws.org/california_statutory_rape_laws 

California Penal Code Section 261.2 which says:

Where it is accomplished against a person's will by means of

force, violence, duress, menace, or fear of immediate and unlawful
bodily injury on the person or another.

She said she was afraid of him.

261.3 says:

Where a person is prevented from resisting by any intoxicating

or anesthetic substance, or any controlled substance, and this
condition was known, or reasonably should have been known by the
accused.

He drugged her.

Why is it so hard for liberals to understand that illegal is illegal?Illegal immigrants are illegal and thus should face punishment and face not being allowed in our country. Rape is illegal and perpetrators should be punished.

I guess based on

Whoopie's comment, we should let Charles Manson free; after all it really wasn't "murder-murder", and I'm confident that Polanski has forgiven him by now.

Can we put Manson in a

Can we put Manson in a halfway house next door to Whoopi?

Manson, Roman, and Goldberg

Manson, Roman, and Goldberg all in the same cell.  Then maybe she'd understand what rape-rape is all about. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Maybe Whoopi can talk Michelle into Barack

pardoning this piece of scum.  After all, he IS a liberal, Whoopi IS black, and Obama IS looking to please the left branch of his party.

"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."


G. W. F. Hegel

And I thought it was bad

And I thought it was bad when she tried to defend Michael Vick's abuse of dogs...this is beyond the pale, even for her.

I agree Kat, when she tried

I agree Kat, when she tried to make an excuse for Vick, I thought WTF???? 

I rarely agree with Whoopi, she always thinks she is so PC, when all she does it destroy her race and women's rights.

Whoopi Makes me Sick

I think everyone here needs to tell Whoopi what they think of her stupid a$$ remark.  Go here, since she is one of the Mastheads of Women On The Web (wow), what a farce that this site supports women.  As soon as you register, you are able to start posting immediately.  Post it on the topic "What Matters To You"...

http://www.wowowow.com/politics/wow-reports-what-news-matters-you-and-why-386371?page=11#comment-388026

Let Whoopi know you are as "Mad as Hell"!!!

Disgusting

I know I'm late, but if you see this... I'm surprised she didn't say something like "Well, she probly enjoyed it, ya know." Gee, what would da bits say if it was Mel Gibson! Writer and Director, one of the gentle people of Hollywood! I'm sure she would being saying "wasn't rape, rape" Right!

These woman don't shock me

These woman don't shock me any longer. Whoopi has completely lost her way in life. I wonder if she would have felt differently if it had been her daughter, niece or sister.

I agree, no shock left in me

I agree, no shock left in me either.  Between all the abortions Whoopi and Sherry have had, I don't think they are good role models for women.  How people can get through five minutes of this show amazes me. 

→ Whoopi

Doubtless, tomorrow's show will feature Whoopi's shock over Papa John Phillips.

I wouldn't doubt that. That

I wouldn't doubt that. That makes me think, why does Ms. Phillips think she needs to share her troubled past with the world?

Daisy--

At least Shepherd says what Polanski did was wrong...unlike dim bulb Goldberg.

Hey, cmon....this is no big

Hey, cmon....this is no big deal in Europe. These backward uneducated hicks in America just don't get it. Anal rape is just no big thang across the pond.

That May Be True, But When Have These Attrocities Occured?

 

I hate to break it to you, but there is no sexual predator epidemic going on in America. Regardless of a few high profile cases, such as Phil Garrido, Roman Polanski, or that 500-pound freak that raped a toddler, there is no sexual predator epidemic. Do you see what a waste of our tax dollars are going towards? This arrest of Polanski epitomizes the failure of child predator laws that are passed by morons who are too thick to even read the bill and find out what the consequences of such a bill were. Children are now in more danger than they were before these laws were passed because of the limits placed on the sex-offender to move out into the outskirts where a serious problem could occur. It is bankrupting California, and I don't want my money going towards this farce. I don't care whether Roman Polanski put his penis into a girl's vagina or her anus over thirty years ago. I only care about my money not being taken from me to pay for this farce, and if one cent is taken out of my taxes to pay for this farce, I'm getting my sombrero and moving to Canada.

 

Go.  Now.  "Beauty is

Go.  Now. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Watch out for the screen

Watch out for the screen door.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

Do you need help packing

If you do let me know, I know some people that will help you move.

I only care about my money

I only care about my money not being taken from me to pay for this
farce, and if one cent is taken out of my taxes to pay for this farce,
I'm getting my sombrero and moving to Canada.

Funny.  I was thinking the same thing about every policy Obama and his Congress have been implementing.

 

http://www.pelicanmarsh68.blogspot.com

Citizen Commentators Unite!

Whoopie...

Then I guess you are not,

Black - Black

I've often questioned

I've often questioned whether she's even female-female...

Dumb Asses!

Let Polanski go free, but make an example of Martha Stewart.

What a crazy world this is.

Tc... Bassakwards, simple

Tc...

Bassakwards, simple as that.

'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart

BT -

Agreed, birthday gal! Agreed.

 BTW, I'm only a few weeks behind you. Great minds and all that stuff...

I'm confused as to why these

I'm confused as to why these immoral celebrities get such a forum. Are they trying to make everyone else think their opinions are the norm? Whoopi and the rest of their ilk make me so literally sick to my stomach when their vile comments come out of their filthy sewers. I cannot believe she ACTUALLY believes what she is saying. I am really scared for this country and the direction it is headed.

It is far better to be three hours early than one minute late.

Yes, Yes it was Rape!

Yes, Yes it was  Rape! Just because some of you are drowning in the depths of depravity doesn't mean that the rest of us are. But then, these are the enlightened ones who believe that our fifteen year old daughters should be taken to Planned Parenthood, the abortion clinic, without our consent, for a medical procedure that is inconsistent with our beliefs. What would we do without them?

 

Hooray for moral

Hooray for moral relativism!

The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy

I read this testerday, and

I read this testerday, and had an epiphany later on... if anyone doubts that this girl was a child at the time of the attack consider this - from her testimony:

A: Then he went down and he started performing cuddliness.
Q: What does that mean?
A: It means...

WHAT does it mean? She was trying to say the "adult" word for oral sex on a female. But it came out as "cuddliness". That's so freaking sad. And so child-like.

So, Whoopi, think about THAT for a minute or two, and explain why this wasn't a "rape-rape" again?

This was a CHILD - she may have looked mature, but clearly she (as most 13 year olds are) was somewhere between a little kid and an adolescent. Any man who could take advantage of that is a sick, perverted scumball.

 

"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt

Rape-rape

This-this is part-part of the reason why-why I watch-watch "The Price is Right" instead of "The View."

Can't Figure the Left Out

For the life of me, I can not understand the way the left in this country is standing behind a confessed child rapist and asking that the US Judicial System turn a blind eye to his case. Yet, the same left are in an outright frenzy when they ask the same US Judicial System to bring charges against true American Patriots who interrogated enemies of state in order to protect us all.

Please help me understand the standard by which these irrational people make their decisions.

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