CNBC's Cramer Declares: 'Romney's Known as a Job Destroyer'
On Sunday's NBC Meet the Press, CNBC Mad Money host Jim Cramer followed Obama campaign talking points perfectly as he decried Mitt Romney's business record at Bain Capital: "Romney's known as a job destroyer, not a creator....I think Bain sticks. I think the idea that you bring in Bain...they fire a lot of people and that's how they get prosperity for the rich." [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]
At the same time, Cramer dismissed a positive forward-looking Romney ad outlining specific policy proposals: "I just don't think that this will stick." He concluded the Bain attacks against Romney were "a more resonant theme" and better "than anything that Romney's come up with."
Later during the roundtable discussion, Cramer claimed: "...when I interviewed – trying to figure out whether I'd work for Bain under Romney, came to school – I heard, 'Look, we're going to cut the fat, we're going to make these companies lean. The only way to do it is to fire as many people as possible.' And by the way, that was very chic then."
In a prior portion of the segment, Cramer took another shot a Romney, as he predicted that "if the Democrats run the table" in November, "[tax] rates are going to go up dramatically, particularly for dividends, for capital gains. And I think you can get rid of a lot of loop – the loopholes like Romney got....No more conversion of ordinary income into capital gains and rich people not having to pay that much."
While bashing Romney's wealth and time at Bain, Cramer praised President Obama for the taxpayer bailout of the auto industry: "It's about the auto industry, 15 million cars we built this year. It's a gigantic number....Ford's hiring, GM's hiring, Chrysler's hiring."
Cramer laughably argued Obama wasn't taking credit: "Obama is missing a major opportunity here, but he doesn't want to talk about bailouts.... He never takes an ounce of credit for that, Obama, not at all....Obama is missing the point. It's not Bain, it's GM and Ford."
Hitting Romney one more time, Cramer remarked: "In the meantime, Romney was against that [auto bailout]. You could've shut down the auto industry..."
Here are portions of the May 20 exchange:
10:54AM ET
DAVID GREGORY: I mean, it has to be – if it's a slam-dunk election in one way, is there more leverage? I mean, that's what you heard from the Vice President in my interview a couple weeks ago, which was like, "Hey, if we win, we're not negotiating on taxes."
JIM CRAMER: Totally true. If they win, if the Democrats run the table, then I think rates are going to go up dramatically, particularly for dividends, for capital gains. And I think you can get rid of a lot of loop – the loopholes like Romney got.
GREGORY: Yeah.
CRAMER: No more conversion of ordinary income into capital gains and rich people not having to pay that much.
(...)
GREGORY: Well, Governor Romney is looking at the totality of the problems under this first administration of President Obama. And he's got this new ad out called "Day One." I want to show a portion of it.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN [CAMPAIGN AD NARRATOR]: What would a Romney presidency be like? Day one, President Romney immediately approves the Keystone Pipeline, creating thousands of jobs that Obama blocked. President Romney introduces tax cuts and reforms that reward job creators, not punish them.
GREGORY: Jim Cramer, this is an area of strength now for Romney on the economy.
CRAMER: Right.
GREGORY: I showed that chart earlier. He's got some traction.
CRAMER: Right.
GREGORY: What does this ad say to you about their approach and its potential effectiveness?
CRAMER: Well, I think that the specifics are good. In other words, people recognize that that pipeline would have created jobs. But at the same time, Romney's known as a job destroyer, not a creator. I just don't think that this will stick. I think Bain sticks. I think the idea that you bring in Bain – which is what happened in the '80s – they fire a lot of people and that's how they get prosperity for the rich. And that is a more resonant theme, I think, than anything that Romney's come up with.
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GREGORY: Alright, but Jim, you say there's a legitimate hit here on Romney, his philos – his governing philosophy, whether he ran Bain or how he would run a federal budget.
CRAMER: Right. Well, look, when I interviewed – trying to figure out whether I'd work for Bain under Romney, came to school – I heard, "Look, we're going to cut the fat, we're going to make these companies lean. The only way to do it is to fire as many people as possible." And by the way, that was very chic then. We forget, that was the message that you heard as a young person trying to figure out where to work. Obama...
GREGORY: That's when people actually said chic.
CORY BOOKER [MAYOR, NEWARK, NJ]: Guys, but this...
CRAMER: Yeah. That's true.
GREGORY: There is that, yeah.
BOOKER: But this is what's crazy.
CRAMER: Obama is missing a major opportunity here, but he doesn't want to talk about bailouts. It's about the auto industry, 15 million cars we built this year. It's a gigantic number.
BOOKER: Yes.
CRAMER: Do you want to know who's hiring? Ford's hiring, GM's hiring, Chrysler's hiring. He never takes an ounce of credit for that, Obama, not at all. In the meantime, Romney was against that. You could've shut down the auto industry, make it so the Japanese car companies, the German car companies would be ascendant. It will be about Europe because Germany is ascendant. They can take down Europe and make our country weaker because of Europe. Obama is missing the point. It's not Bain, it's GM and Ford.
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CNBC <= NBC
Submitted by P. Aaron on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:27pm.
Let's just talk to ourselves again. It's been a while. What? 6-7 minutes? Republicans bad. Obama cool.
Now let's break for this capitalistic foray into brainwashing & we'll be right back.
Kramer is an IRA destroyer, not a wealth creator
Submitted by frank14 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:27pm.
Remember when he went on TV begging for foriveness after he was exposed as a fraud when the markets collapsed? LOL!
NBC is just in the bag for Obama, all the time
Submitted by merly1 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:41pm.
to the point of laugh-out-loud.
I like Cramer, but his claims here are just absurd.
Hey Jim...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:27pm.
...How 'bout you bring up the huuuge tax breaks extended to GM and Chrysler that hide the actual amount that the taxpayers are on the hook for...
I'm sure glad that this media campaign to slander Romney and reelect Baracko isn't orchestrated and coordinated.
Bain also invested
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:22pm.
Bain also invested with:
Clear Channel Communications
Brookstone
Domino's
Dunkin' Donuts
Staples
Toys "R" Us
Burlington
HCA
Sports Authority
The Weather Channel
Sealy
Burger King
AMC Entertainment
If you look real hard you might find that over the past couple of decades some of these companies may have done some hiring
Cramer is a snake oil salesman.
Submitted by c5then on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:30pm.
He says whatever he thinks is good for Jim Cramer. And that includes his stock "advice". Anyone who listens to him gets fleeced. I have no reason to beilive that his political advice is any better.
Bottom line: If Romney wins in November stocks go up. If Obama wins, stocks tank big time. That is from wherever they wind up after the "summer from hell".
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
A joke
Submitted by another_old_veteran on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:32pm.
Cramer comes across as a failed side show barker.
“If you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.” - Halton C. Arp
You know its bad
Submitted by Ars21689 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:03pm.
when you are a democrat and even Jon Stewart says that you are a snake oil salesman.
C5
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:16pm.
You literally took the words out of my mouth. Kramer couldnt make it as a money manager, he was a miserable failure. So he took to CNBC and will say anything he thinks the higher ups want him to say. CNBC lost its credibility with me a long time ago.
Obviously, Cramer has the appearance of having been 'bought'
Submitted by ChrisNH on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:31pm.
Cramer, no stranger to the appearance of having been 'bought,' teams up with Brick OBAMO, who is no stranger to arm-twisting.
It's blatantly obvious that either (likely both) has happened.
Yea the great Jim Cramer
Submitted by I hate marxists on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:41pm.
He tries to be to the financial network as Emeril LaGasse is to the food network.The only problem with that is Emeril knows how to be a chef and Cramer has no clue about the financial markets.
But, but, but, Cramer recommended Google!
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 12:45pm.
No mention of the 499 other companies he recomended . . . because they all tanked . . .
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And Cramer is known as a wealth destroyer.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:09pm.
.
And also, SoL, he gives every
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:28am.
And also, SoL, he gives every indication of being a meth-addled, hyper-active, ADD, mentally constipated psuedo-expert with some serious left-leaning ideas. I've seen him a number of times over the years...........and while I'm not financial wizard, he'd be one of the LAST guys that I would EVER listen to for advice!!!
I think Cramer and Leghumper Matthews would make a good pair for the next White House GLBT party - I could see them walking in together, all dressed up, holding hands, and spewing spittle all over the place!!!
No credibility after that.
Submitted by NeoKong on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:10pm.
What Obama did to GM was steal the company from it's last owners and hand it to foreign investors and the UAW all propped up with taxpayer money that may take many years to recoup.
They cancelled production of the Hummer. People lost their dealerships. People lost their pensions.
Secured investors got absolutely screwed.
It was a theft.
I think that SOME people lost
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:33am.
I think that SOME people lost their dealerships - the ones who were KNOWN to be 'Republicans', or NOT Obama supporters.
And I don't think the unions lost any pensions............only the EVIL management - NON-union types!!!
And didn't Government Motors pay back their first bail-out money with funds from their NEXT bail-out..................and when it somehow turned into a 'profit'.............it was distributed to the unions and the union workers - and NOT back to the 'taxpayers'??
And I also noticed that Afgan President Karzai thanked Boy Baraka for giving him 'taxpayer money'!!! I"m sure that Baraka didn't even blink - since he thinks the money is HIS!!!
Cramer leans left on his CNBC show, but not on MSM
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:34pm.
When Cramer is on his own investment show on CNBC, he leans left. But not when he makes an appearance on MSNBC or similar MSM network show. Then Cramer lurches to the left. He knows which side on which is bread is buttered.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Cramer is an Obamabot. He
Submitted by John21 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:38pm.
Cramer is an Obamabot.
He will never face the reality of the Obama administration. No investment that they have been part of has been successful. His failure with the various green energy scams too supports his friends and supporters are just a small part of the corruption from this administration. The Auto bailout deals that benefited the auto unions. Cash for Clunkers gift give away.
The lack of anything remotely close to leadership. The abysmal failure at this administration to even understand the business climate of basic operations as it exists today. His over taxation and over spending is appalling at best. The lack of a coherent economic policy or a path to success is a total failure of the entire DNC. The party has to know by now how incompetent this man is and they are not providing and limitations of his delusional agenda.
Bain! Bain! Bain!
Submitted by MidAmerica on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:42pm.
No matter how many times they yell Bain! it won't make the millions who have been unemployed all through the obama Presidency feel better about obama.
Strangely
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:56pm.
Strangely they never mention the majority of workers in restructured companies that were NOT laid off and lived to work for years and years where they might have been a statistic. Yes, some plants or whole companies closed--things open, close, open, close--creative destruction--to prop up with govt money just delays the inevitable. And yes, for making these determinations, people who can succeed from failure make money. Yay for them! I am not in a position to do this, but it takes nerve and skill. I've been fired---almost everyone has at some point. It's life.
It's a given that Cramer is a no credibility Obama toady.
Submitted by CT on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:48pm.
But just for the record if you haven't heard it today yet you are a smacked A$$ Cramer.
Cononel Jim Klink
Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 1:51pm.
Colonel Jim Klink is no better in the financial world than he was at Stalag 13.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Repeat after me
Submitted by OhioHistorian on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:10pm.
There is but one job destroyer, and Obama is his name.See the graph which follows, from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Note that we are still about 5 million jobs below the height of the Bush economy, which started to falter about 16 months after we got the Pelosi/Reid Congress which had a Senator named Obama as a participant.
Obama has not done what President Bush had done by 3 years after HIS program was finally adopted by Congress in 2003. He needs to do what he promised: If he can't fix it by 3 years in, he doesn't deserve to be re-elected.
http://data.bls.gov/generated_files/graphics/CES0000000001_40692_1337623...
Thomas Alva Edison
Oxymoron
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:07pm.
Leftist economist.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Kyle, no offense meant,
Submitted by BBallleaper on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:16pm.
but Jim can't even grow hair,...why would I believe him on how to grow the economy!
Cramer wasn't
Submitted by StarAZ on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 2:50pm.
Cramer wasn't raving like Howard Dean on 'roids, so this just seemed like the usual regurgitated WH talking pt to me--but now that I think of it, wouldn't he
"invest" in a lean, mean company over a bloated, stumbling one? He is some kind of Wall Street guy, right?
Cramer
Submitted by palmaceiahome on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 3:33pm.
I notice Cramer didn't get sent to a "reeducation camp" like Cory Booker did today. Good little drone on "meet the press".
Cramer
Submitted by lilium479 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 4:04pm.
Giving business advice and doesn't know why a business opens it's doors.
What a Joke!!!!
To Cramer
Submitted by lilium479 on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 4:05pm.
http://news.investors.com/editorialcartoons/cartoon.aspx?id=612056
Kramer's
Submitted by NotFondOfLibs on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 5:14pm.
Kramer is not only a jerk, but a stupid one at that. Does anyone give this guy any credibility for financial matters or anything else? That he associates with David Gregory tells me everything I need to know about him.
Doesn't care
Submitted by kiwikit on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 6:41pm.
about his ratings. . . why would anyone interested in the market ever listen to him again after he proved here he can't think logically.
Obama the destroyer
Submitted by TeddyRoos on Mon, 05/21/2012 - 9:55pm.
Democrats could stand in the middle of an F4 tornado and complain that it supposed to be cloudy next week. They're calling Romney a job destroyer while rooting for the total destruction of the country. What a bunch of maroons.
Ford
Submitted by Okieflyover on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 12:46am.
Ford did not take a bailout you putz. Obama is supposed to take credit for Ford ????? Also , not giving them a bailout would have made
Them stronger in long run.
Cramer
Submitted by rusino on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 1:52pm.
Mr Cramer should stick to making incorrect statements about Mad Monet and stay out of politics.
Cramer's statements....
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 05/22/2012 - 3:31pm.
....continually paint him as a lefty.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama