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SNL's Fred Armisen an Obama Groupie: I 'Like Him More and More,' 'I've Just Been a Fan of His'

By Kyle Drennen | May 02, 2012 | 17:15

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Talking to Meet the Press host David Gregory on the NBC Sunday show's web-based feature Press Pass, Saturday Night Live cast member and Obama impersonator Fred Armisen confessed: "I've grown to like him more and more. You know, I was always – I've just been a fan of his, if you could say that about a president. So that's the other kind of good part of it, is you know, getting to like him more and more."

By contrast, fellow cast member Jason Sudeikis told Gregory he wished he could impersonate someone more exciting than Mitt Romney: "I'd prefer that he did something scandalous or something and, you know, incredibly stupid, as opposed to just boring....I mean, he's like a butter sandwich with unsalted butter and the crust cut off."

Sudeikis's comments were prompted by Gregory wondering: "Romney here is not exactly lighting it up on the campaign trail in terms of a being an exciting figure. What does that do comedically?" Gregory then referred to Armisen having the "advantage"of playing Obama on the show.

Later in the discussion, Sudeikis admitted SNL's leftward slant: "...we're only a reflection of what's being, you know, done out there. There's no agenda, believe it or not. Can't help it with, you know, our age and where we live, you know, on the writing and cast, you know, to skew a little bit liberal but it's not like, you know, these are all human beings trying-"

Gregory helpfully added: "It is New York City, come on." Hey David, where is NBC News located again?

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Here are portions of the April 29 exchange:

DAVID GREGORY: But what about the personalities? I mean, Romney here is not exactly lighting it up on the campaign trail in terms of a being...

JASON SUDEIKIS: No.

GREGORY: ...an exciting figure. What does that do comedically?

SUDEIKIS: It, it, it – I, I think it makes it kind of...

GREGORY: Even better?

SUDEIKIS: I don't know if it does make it better. I, I'd prefer that he did something scandalous or something and, you know, incredibly stupid as opposed to just boring. Because to play boring is, is a little bit boring. I – we're trying to find, you know, things like this last week we sort of dealt with him, you know – I hate the overuse of this word – but his flip-flopping and sort of not knowing who he is. We're sort of, you know, we were narrowing in on that.

(...)

GREGORY: Fred, you have the advantage of you've been impersonating President Obama now for, for some time, since he's come into office.

FRED ARMISEN: Yeah.

GREGORY: How has this developed for you?

ARMISEN: It's nice because it's – you know, I think that as the public discovers who he is and finds out more about him, I'm doing the same thing. And that's, that's the, the kind of fun thing about it is that as all of that unfolds.

GREGORY: You – I want to show a clip, too, of, you know, capturing the hype of President Obama and then some of the reality that he had to deal with.

ARMISEN [AS BARACK OBAMA]: It's the time to look forward and acknowledge the sacrifices we're all going to have to make. But, before we do that, remember the election night? Grant Park in Chicago, nice weather, Oprah. The white guy Oprah was crying on. Good times. But enough about the past. Let's talk about the present. Remember the convention in Denver? Rocky Mountain air, yes, we can. Yes, we can. Even John Kerry was fun.

GREGORY: These are the two sides to the President, always harkening back to how much hype there was surrounding him when he got elected.

ARMISEN: Yeah, and it's also the public, too, kind of like remembering back to that really fun time. But I've also like, I've grown to like him more and more. You know, I was always – I've just been a fan of his, if you could say that about a president. So that's the other kind of good part of it, is you know, getting to like him more and more.

(...)

GREGORY: Is it going to stack up this year, do you think?

ARMISEN: You know, who knows? And also we can't – we also can't think about it too much.

SUDEIKIS: We don't think about it.

ARMISEN: Yeah. We definitely don't.

SUDEIKIS: We don't sit in a room and try to like – there's no – we're only a reflection of what's being, you know, done out there. There's no agenda, believe it or not. Can't help it with, you know, our age and where we live, you know, on the writing and cast, you know, to skew a little bit liberal but it's not like, you know, these are all human beings trying-

GREGORY: It is New York City, come on.         

SUDEIKIS: Yeah.

ARMISEN: Yeah.

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SNL?

Submitted by nolotrippen on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 5:19pm.

Same Nasty Liberals.

“It is almost impossible to distinguish a politician from a gangster.” (Will Durant, 1931)

I predicted tea parties would return. Now I'm predicting dueling will return.

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When Armisen said: "I've

Submitted by gopsteve on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 5:22pm.

When Armisen said:

"I've grown to like him more and more. You know, I was always – I've just been a fan of his,"

I am surprised Gregory didn't jump out of his seat and shout "ME TOO!"

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he was probably wearing

Submitted by Lipton on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:03pm.

a seatbelt

I'd like to thank Hollywood for renewing my interest in reading.
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"SNL's Fred Armisen an Obama

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 5:40pm.

"SNL's Fred Armisen an Obama Groupie: I 'Like Him More and More,' 'I've Just Been a Fan of His'"

...and?

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Just pointing out, bal, that given the state Obama and ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 5:51pm.

his administration have led the country to; that anyone who likes Obama 'more and more' is either blind, or is a fookin' idiot.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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I'm not overwhelmed by

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 5:54pm.

I'm not overwhelmed by Obama's time in office, either, but who cares that Fred Armisen is a fan? What does it matter, other than to give someone inevitably the opportunity to once again voice the opinion that SNL was never better than in the '70s, or to exclaim in faux shock "SNL is still on?"

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SNL's Still On?!?

Submitted by BosTarus on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:05pm.

Man, I stopped watching when Bill Murray left. Downhill ever since.

Nah, just messing, I love Armisen. Portlandia's great.

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I agree with balboa

Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:13am.

Fred Armisen is not unlike millions of Americans who are fans of Obama. So, what's the story?

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Bal

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:14pm.

Armisen: fan of Obama
Armisen: works at SNL
SNL: Part of the media
SNL: exhibits bias
Newsbusters: exposes media bias

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Now THAT, Rad, is how I should have ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:40pm.

replied to bal.

Very nice.

MD

edit to acknowledge Tempus Fugit, below, as well.

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:05pm.

You deserve a *like* button.

And if anyone cannot extrapolate from your summary, then they be dummies. MEDIA consists of a lot more than SNL.

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You forgot something

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:18pm.

Armisen has played Obama more than 30 times, and he's made fun of the president every single time.

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The portrayals of Obama

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:24pm.

have been much kinder than those of Republicans. Like Sarah Palin.

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Yes, I understand

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:35pm.

I'm sure you've watched every episode too. Any particulars, or is this just a hunch or a deep seeded bias you're running on? Talk to me.

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Never mean,

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:49pm.

Lewd or insulting. And I havent watched any of it. Thats how predictable the bias is. But go-ahead, stay a moron.

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deep-seeded?

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:49pm.

?

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Ummm,

Submitted by Denny Crane on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 4:40pm.

Must be an ACORN.

Be on the lookout for random acts of journalism from the MSM~h/t Rush

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Why don't you give me an example of something

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:01pm.

mean spirited about Obama, and I'll show you something mean about Palin.

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Who

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:06pm.

I thought this was about SNL presidential commentary and the portrayals relating from actor to actor. But...everyday citizens...? I don't see any relation between the two of them.

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Look if your gonna act like

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:10pm.

a nitwit, do try and keep up, eh

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iFight

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:13pm.

Did you take a wrong turn at DosKos or something? This website fights liberal media bias. Now, since we only have one president, and he's a liberal, it doesn't mean the website shuts down. We can still expose pro liberal bias or bias AGAINST other conservatives.

Now, if you can't handle this, feel free to leave, letting the metaphorical door hit you, hard, on the way out.

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I read that

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:17pm.

It's in the heading underneath the big Newsbusters logo. Obviously our interpretation of the comments section differs, but until I am led to believe that all comments must remain in lockstep with the site's mission statement I may just offer my opinion.

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iTroll

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:22pm.

I do believe you were the one trying to keep the topic narrowly defined in a way not relevant to the thread.

As Boudin said, try to keep up.

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If all comments here, iFight, were required to remain ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:22pm.

in lockstep with the site's mission statement - your sorry liberal butt wouldn't have lasted this long.

"Deep-seeded" ?

Too funny.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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ouch

Submitted by milootoole on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 4:03pm.

You are trying to avoid the Larry Sinclair issue. That is why you misspelled deep-seated!!!

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Yeah but to what end? You

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:29pm.

Yeah but to what end? You exposed Armisen as a fan of Obama. So? Another entertainer to check off your list?

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We're going to have a big rally

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:39pm.

Break some windows, trash some parks, throw some bricks, you know, all that stuff.

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Too late Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:45pm.

The OWS have already infiltrated NB. Didn't you notice someone just pooped all over the place?

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Rad, check the video, I'm sure that ifight,

Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:48pm.

Van Lynchmo and several other trolls got their pics taken and posted.

Be of good cheer, these are Obama supporters and the future leaders of our country,

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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UpNorth

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:58pm.

I was going to call and donate, but no one showed up to work for the phone company so, bummer...

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Yep, anyone want to take a guess,

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 9:11pm.

As to what the participation levels were, between Gov/union employees, and Privet sector, who actual pay the salaries and benefits for the Gov and a ton of union employees. Anyone think 50-1 is to high?

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I noticed a large

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 9:06pm.

part of them had stupid tattooed all over their face. BTW, any tattoo on your face says stupid. Cant wait to see these pukes when their 50, trying to explain to their teenagers why getting arrested isnt a good thing,,, again.

No mercy from this guy

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Newsbusters Explained

Submitted by TempusFugit on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:07pm.

You see bal, Newsbusters is a site about liberal media bias. Fred Armisen, a member of the media, is a fan of Obama, and also does an impression of him. Therefore, his impressions of him are influenced by his like of Obama, and an example of media bias. I remember after the Chicago Olympics fiasco Armisen did an hysterical bit about GM giving away a Chicago 2016 t-shirt with every car purchase. I thought "great! They're really tearing Obama a new one! I hope this keeps up". Well, they musta gotten a call from someone in the White House, because I don't believe they've done anything nearly as critical since then. In fact SNL, and Armisen's impression of him, are textbook examples of liberal media bias. I sure hope you understand this site better now. If you need further tutoring just let me know /snark

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What exactly is a member of the media?

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:52pm.

Is it someone employed by the media? Are all employees paid by a media corporation included in this group? Are you a member of the media if you sell a TV? What if you make a TV set? Damn, what if you watch TV? What are the qualifications?

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Are you a troll if you don't understand the concept of media?

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:27pm.

Are you a troll if you ask pointless questions?
Are you a troll if you ask stupid questions?
Are you a troll if the people here laugh at your stupidity?

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Good evening Rad

Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:36pm.

It's still trying to figure out which of those things is the hole in the ground.

 

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Sorry, I can't get my

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:47pm.

Sorry, I can't get my knickers in a twist over the fact that actors on SNL are Obama fans. It just falls in with the fact that 95% of the movie and TV industry is. In other news, water is wet and fire is hot.

Yes, it's galling, and we can whine about it, but we can't demand "balance" in an entertainment show.

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Careful

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:58pm.

Dangling those made up statistics like a shiny coin in front of my eyes won't paralyze reality.

But why not demand balance in a show you don't watch?

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I think you're reality is already paralyzed.

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:02pm.

Judging by your posts.

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Made up?

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:09pm.

As a committed leftist, I am sure you dont care

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You just have fun arguing by

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:14pm.

You just have fun arguing by yourself, there.

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For phonies such as these, super phony leaders are perfect.

Submitted by needle on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:00pm.

When hear something like this I really wish there were some way to ask someone like Fred Armisen what he thinks about Obama throwing a major human rights icon, such as Chen Cuangcheng, to the Chinese wolves for the sake of expediency, because the Chinese demanded it and an apology to boot.

These people, famous for their moral laxity in real life, write and preform their skits that routinely take cheap moral shots at all sorts of people, but in real life they simply do not comprehend what real moral courage is about, and fawn over hideously phony leaders.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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"These people, famous for

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 11:34pm.

"These people, famous for their moral laxity in real life..."

So you're familiar with Fred Armisen's morals, are you? You have the last word in what courage is?

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Hi, Bal

Submitted by needle on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 8:13am.

We're talking about actors and actresses here.

If you think that adultery in the general sense is rare in the acting business, please speak up.

I think that it is all but taken for granted.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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...which means you can just

Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 11:22am.

...which means you can just disparage any celebrity?

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I know the las thing you need

Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 11:35pm.

I know the las thing you need is me agreeing with you, but that's a good post. :-)

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Adding up media bias

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 6:49pm.

One human being at a time.

What's the tally at, yo?

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Idontcare*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:56pm.

Number of trolls at NB?....limitless

Stupidity of sto' bought trolls?......infinite vacuum

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oof

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:00pm.

Dig deep. Dig real deep until it hurts, then pull out that old stale joke from the 90s.

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Stale joke from the 90's?

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:06pm.

There were internet trolls in the 90's? Wow. You really are in an alternate reality.

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You're kidding, right?

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:08pm.

You're either really old or really young. OR really oblivious as to the existence of the inter webs in the 90s.

And the sad part is that wasn't even the joke.

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Is this your claim as an

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:15pm.

Educator? By all means get started slow poke

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If it is common sense, iFight, or intelligence that you ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:07pm.

are fighting; why, it appears that you will likely retire undefeated.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Idontknownothing*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:08pm.

Hang around, I can pull "stale" jokes all the way from the 50's.

How about this one?

Throw a brick in a pack of dogs and the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

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Neat!

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:09pm.

Did you hear the one about the Korean, the German and the American?

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Sounds

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:13pm.

Racist,,,,,

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It wasn't

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:15pm.

Not in the 50s.

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Really

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:17pm.

Seems the 50's were the dimwits kkk heydays,

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Sad

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:20pm.

It's unfortunate that to this day the KKK still uses Christianity to preach hate.

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It's even sadder

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:25pm.

that the Democratic party founded the KKK.

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Oh, poor you

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:12pm.

The KKK may have been founded and populated by democrats in early incarnations, but the one constant factor though out its existence is their use of the Bible to preach hate. I'd say it's even more unfortunate that they give Christianity a bad name than it is pathetic you think todays democrat party has anything to do with today's Klan (still rooted, let's even say deep seeded <yuck yuck yuck> deep-seated in Christianity).

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Actually, it's poor you.

Submitted by Free Stinker on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:18pm.

Wrong again. The Bible clearly tells us to Free Slaves. The Klan is ignoring Gods word in the things they do.

 

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I think I may just have found a connection

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:20pm.

between the KKK and the democrats...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URnVv56YLXY

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Nice one Rad

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:52pm.

Of course the everlasting link between the KKK and democrats, the one that they would gladly give theirs, yours, or anyone's baby over to death to save, is Planned Parenthood.

We get mildly annoyed when they attach Christianity. It's old news.

But for a really good time, remind them of the belief in eugenics, and the inferiority of minorities to whites, that the beloved margaret sanger espoused, pop some corn, and watch the fur fly. Yeee-Hawww!!!!

Then show them the damage done to the black community because of PP and their just as beloved welfare state, and watch them beam with pride.

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➚ That's it

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:59pm.

And it's the liberals' firm belief in evolution that they believe puts them in the position of masters.

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Liberal bias has history*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 11:07pm.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/rome_and_christianity.htm

Hatred for Christians is possible because Christians are passivists. Today, there is stll hatred but not with lions but through the media.

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Yup,

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 11:16pm.

And a just as corrupt education system makes the proletariat grist for the media's mill. I look around, and wonder of we'll ever get any sense of sanity back.

Those of Faith will be saved. I believe that. Not so sure America will be counted among the Faithful.

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Rad, Please warn me if Bill, wags his finger at us.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:41pm.

That is his sign he's going to lie to you MORE...even more than the sentence he just lied to you while waggin it, IN YOUR FACE.
He did it in that fresh O'bama commercial,too.
I haven't had this much Clinton anxiety, irritation since he was president...
And that WIFE of his in China, right Now.....
Two strikes, against the China Perp... hates planned parent hood, and commies.

You Didn't Build That.

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All leftist do,

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:26pm.

You use Faith to pander to the poor, then ridicule those who actually use it to help the poor.

Your not a bright guy, your going to get slapped around here pretty good, you better head back over to kos, before your self esteem evaporates

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Idontknowtruth*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:27pm.

Now that post tells us just how "educated" you are. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know the last thing they preach is hate. Check out those Muslims though, that is some hatred.

http://direland.typepad.com/direland/2005/10/shocking_new_ph.html

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Is the asterisk there so your posts can get extra attention?

Submitted by iFight on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:04pm.

I'm plenty educated, thank you. I also said nothing about Christians preaching hate. I stated it was a shame that the KKK uses Christianity as their excuse for hate.

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It's a darn shame the Democrats started the KKK

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:08pm.

.

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idontknowtruth*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:50pm.

Depends on the definition of "plenty"

This is a horse
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.pawnation.com/media/2010/04/einstein-miniatur...

This is an elephant
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WT7EsCSpyxA/TvtXrdjEpkI/AAAAAAAADGk/lI1uEXvzvQ...

And this is a house
http://larryfire.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/smallest-house-2.jpg

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You are in dire need

Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:18pm.

You are in dire need of history and english lessons. That diploma you got from the Sam Hill Institute of Trolls (S.H.I.T.) school is worthless.

 

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Good Evening, Cocodrie

Submitted by stratman on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:33pm.

My favorite post of the day. LOL! Thank you.

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Thank you coco*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:38pm.

That was the first laugh I have had all day...merci mon ami

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Good evening Strat and Caj

Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:56pm.

Couldn't resist that one. I seriously dislike egotistical morons.
What do y'all hear from Bru? Caj, I know you said she is being tortured with sleep deprivation. Do you have any more news?

 

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Hey coco*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:58pm.

On the day of La's bi cenntenial, Ms Juliette was introduced to the sunshine. Since her birth was on a very special day, I sent an official announcement that Ms Juliette is now an honorary cajun... Mother and daughter are doing fine...

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Jesus loves you so much

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 3:40pm.

He taught you the secret to cussing...acronyms.

So we're talking US history and the Protestant Christian organization, the Ku Klux Klan, who have a history of terrorizing victims by lighting fire to donkeys on said victim's front lawn.

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iFight

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 3:50pm.

No, no, no, you keep making that mistake. The KKK is a Democratic organization, not one born of Christianity. Didn't you see my link about Clinton and Byrd?

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Post attack

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 4:00pm.

Yeah, it was really, really good. I got A LOT out of it.

It still doesn't change the fact that, like the Taliban, the KKK uses the word of God to justify terror. But I should clarify my prior comments relating to the burning of materials on one's lawn at the hands of the Klan - In actuality the Klan burns a Christian cross on the lawn of the victim, not the widely accepted symbol of the democrat party - the donkey.

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Iknownothing*

Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 4:42pm.

And why did the KKK burn Christian crosses? Do you think for one minute that a real Christian would defile the most sacred symbol of Christianity? Will try to simplify for you. They can call themselves many things, ie, today the commies call themselves...American Center for Progress. The KKK were not Christians simply by their acts of cruelty. It was all about power over the people, especially those deemed inferiror. Now THAT sounds like a democrat.

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attention seeker

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:08pm.

You don't have to share your interpretation of the Bible with Klansmen, but you can't deny they hold, and have always clung to Christianity. The democrat party did not form the Klan. The first Klan were segregationists who targeted republicans.

Similarly, the Klan did not give birth to Christianity, but Christianity did give birth to the Klan.

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iFail to see reality

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:26pm.

You can dance around it all you want, but the Klan was born of DEMOCRATS, the same party that held up the passage of Civil Rights legislation as long as they possibly could.

No Christianity did NOT give birth to the Klan, it was never condoned or accepted by any sect of Christianity that I know of.

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Holy alternate reality Batman!

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:38pm.

America, Our Nation is Under Judgement from God!

"There is a race war against whites. But our people - my white brothers and sisters - will stay committed to a non-violent resolution. That resolution must consist of solidarity in white communities around the world. The hatred for our children and their future is growing and is being fueled every single day. Stay firm in your convictions. Keep loving your heritage and keep witnessing to others that there is a better way than a war torn, violent, wicked, socialist, new world order. That way is the Christian way - law and order - love of family - love of nation. These are the principles of western Christian civilization. There is a war to destroy these things. Pray that our people see the error of their ways and regain a sense of loyalty. Repent America! Be faithful my fellow believers. "

-www.kkk.com

Next, let's discuss the KKK and their position against communism (democrat party).

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You seem to be very familiar

Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:41pm.

You seem to be very familiar with the KKK. I suspect you are actually a memeber of that group.

 

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You seem to be very familiar

Submitted by Free Stinker on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:41pm.

You seem to be very familiar with the KKK. I suspect you are actually a memeber of that group.

 

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➚ iFight

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:47pm.

Allow me to address your claim.

I thing you go a little too far in claiming the Democrat Party is communist. If you'll amend it to the lesser charge of Socialism, I'll agree with you on the point.

I despise Socialism, but Communism, even more.

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So why was Robert Byrd a member of the KKK

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:52pm.

and why did Clinton defend him?

Obama claims to be Christian to, but I don't believe that either. Any churches claiming to be pro KKK?

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Thanks for the history lesson, iZippers.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:53pm.

.

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iFight, Cute with the commie connection, hahaha

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:57pm.

It was the Democrat Party that gave Blacks the poll taxes and literacy tests to keep them from voting… Republican. It was the Democrat Party that created the Ku Klux Klan as an enforcement arm to terrorize Black and White Republicans. It was the Democrat Party that repealed anti-lynching legislation, yet today their very liberals are hypersensitive any time a noose appears in public.

Way too easy,LOLz

BTW: Another Ku Klux Klan member, Sen. Robert C. Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia, personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 straight hours to keep it from passage. He was a Democrat member of the U.S. Senate till just recently.

You Didn't Build That.

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Well we all know Byrd died a Klansman

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:05pm.

Much like Newt Gingrich cheats on his wife because he cheated on his 2 previous wives.

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More strawmen?

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:11pm.

.

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iFlight's, math class.Cheats, Cheated = Lynching N burning.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:55pm.

Sorry my wife... I'm late because I Just been out lynching, ON YA AGAIN SORRY baby..

You Didn't Build That.

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Roman Crosses were around before Christian ones were.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:23pm.

Used for torturous death, of countless thousands...

Just because it looks like a Christian Cross it doesn't make it one.

The simplest and most common Christian cross is the Latin cross. It may not have come into use until the 2nd or 3rd century. The empty cross, usually favored by Protestants, reminds Christians of the resurrection, while the crucifix, with the body of Jesus on it, favored by Catholic and Orthodox churches, is a reminder of Christ's sacrifice.

Come to think of it Rome was run by Democrats...Nuthun new under da kine sun

You Didn't Build That.

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iknownothing*

Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:53pm.

You were the one who used the Christian cross as an example of Christian "influence" over the KKK. But you are once again showing your lack of knowledge and a distorted view of history. The elitist who saw themselves as superior were the ones demanding slavery continue, cruel and harsh "lynchings" for their versions of justice are the same mentality today of the elitist snobs who call themselves liberals or progessives. They have simply redefined their goals to dependency on welfare, tax payer paid abortions for the "poor", divisiveness, and class distinctions for select groups. Same thinking as the original KKK which were democrats.

Christians believe in none of those things. So your continued mistatements of history and origions of the KKK both show your ignorance and your continued insistence on inciteful and incendiary remarks. Oh wait. Sounds like you are "burning crosses" at NB.

PS: There was Christian influence in the early days of this country. Those tenets of the Church are the basis of the founders' ideas for our Constitution.

Attention seeker I am not. The only thing that gets MY attention are lying trolls. Some posters use * or other markers in the subject line for much the same reason I do. I wear bi-focals and it makes it easier to find MY posts in order to follow the debate. But feel free to insult since you have little other ammo and I will reply in kind.

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*Also makes it easier for those of us who

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:56pm.

appreciate Cajun's wisdom and perspective to find her posts.

If we could bury yours under a rock it would be lovely.

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thanks Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 5:59pm.

Good one!

*snicker*

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Correct Rad... I'll loan iFight this one, ☮ feel free iF user.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:34pm.

☮ close but not quite ☭
They all recycle maybe this ♻
libs have no humor maybe this ☹

Last but not least is this ⚐

You Didn't Build That.

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way to go upc*

Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:52pm.

That post had me rofl......

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Read a history book

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:00pm.

Yahoo! it. Your brief history of the KKK fails to even touch upon the origins. The original KKK was made up of southern segregationists up in arms over a republican party responsible for black male suffrage. They targeted blacks and the whites they felt were responsible, and it was never about republicans versus democrats.

You know this.

You also know that the 2nd incarnation of the Klan introduced the burning cross.

You know this.

You should also know that the Klan today, in its pathetic 3rd incarnation, still consider themselves a Christian organization.

One more non-fact from you and I start counting strikes.

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iFight

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:04pm.

Excuse me? You start counting strikes? Delusions of grandeur much?

Are you now saying the KKK was NOT started by Democrats, or are you throwing up a straw man? Ah, Yahoo. If that is your source for history it explains a lot little boy.

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Here's what I'm saying

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:10pm.

If the men who started the KKK considered themselves democrats, and you thereby conclude that the Democratic Party is responsible, then those same Klansmen who considered themselves Christians must lead to the same conclusion - the Christianity is responsible.

You probably don't like it laid out so nice and neat for you, so it's your turn to deflect...maybe even condescend to a level you're comfortable with because so far you're not impressing me.

Not too much at all.

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Silly boy

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:14pm.

YOU started the whole thing with an intro to a racist joke, then accused Christianity of being involved with the KKK. Christianity has far less to do with the KKK than the Democratic party does.

And I have to tell you, I'm not concerned about impressing those of lesser minds and intelligence, who get their history from Yahoo.

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Delusions of what?

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:29pm.

Racist joke? Where?

Accused Christianity with being involved with the KKK? The Klan uses Christianity, not the other way around. Show where I said otherwise.

You're so wrapped up in tying the KKK to Democrats that you haven't the slightest clue or interest in understanding that their hate comes not from a party platform but from a book titled The Bible.

This is fact, and it is not debatable. The KKK states it for themselves.

Furthermore, in 1860 the democratic party was split into 2, a northern and southern party, each with its own presidential nominee. The Constitutional Union, People's Party, and Liberty Party existed in addition to the Republican and Radical Republican parties of the decade. Again, your abbreviated understanding of history conflates all non-republican parties into democrats.

I hope you learned something today.

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I did indeed learn something

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:31pm.

You are not only a troll, an unintelligent troll at that, but you are a liar.

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Rad, speaking of strikes, ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:50pm.

  1. Troll
  2. Unintelligent
  3. Liar       

Three strikes - the fool is back in the dugout !!

MD

                                                      

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Neat

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 7:02pm.

Another strikingly intelligent response.

Facts are lies?

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You saying something is a fact

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 8:18pm.

don't make it so.

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Pay attention, nimrod, ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 8:25pm.

Liberal bullshit  fantasy story-telling yarn spinning episodic comments in typed conversation do not take the place of utilizing facts in the furtherance of your tale; except, of course, in the Land of the Trolls.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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One final thought

Submitted by iFight on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:08pm.

Find a biography of the KKK online that doesn't describe them as Protestant Christians.

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You must have me confused with someone

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:13pm.

who feels the need to obey your commands.

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Yeah, iZippers, we're just confusing with you w/ someone else.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:26pm.

Like maybe one of your previous 40-or-so identities.

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iZippers acquires rudimentary HTML skills, shows off new prowess

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:22pm.

Next up: iZippers attempts use of CSS.

Go iZippers!

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Funny that both

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:08am.

Democratic parties included this item in their platform:

Resolved, That the enactments of the State Legislatures to defeat the faithful execution of the Fugitive Slave Law, are hostile in character, subversive of the Constitution, and revolutionary in their effect.

Funny how both you and Jer seem to think Northern Democrats were free of racism. Truth is the Northerners were probably just envious of their Southern counterparts' property.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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➚ Nope

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:18pm.

Democrats are still doing the bogeyman scare. Although I recognize your success in "keeping them folk in their place" (as you and your Democrat ilk have put it), I will not congratulate you on your success.

At least Lyndon Johnson was honest about it when he said "I'll have them ni**ers voting democratic for the next 200 years!"

Carry on with your victory dance, Oh Great White Massa.

You're still disgusting.

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Your fingers may be flying over the keys, Nimrod, but ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 6:25pm.

you ain't saying jack shit.

It appears SoL was correct.

You emanate the odor of the much maligned - and speaking of shit - the pos, zippers, et al.

Liberal.

Troll.

Fool.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Coco, ifeign graduated and moved on.

Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 9:25pm.

He now attends the Sam Houston Institiute of Technology.   Same letters, so he didn't have to throw out his letter sweater or pom poms. 

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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iGomer

Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 10:51pm.

Oh, I get it. You say it's a shame that the klan uses Christianity as an excuse for hate in the same way that you propound your "education" as a means to demonstrate how big of a self-absorbed bonehead you are.

For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me.  As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.

Ian Anderson "Wind up"

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You can TALK "plenty educated" until you go down for the ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 11:21pm.

dirt nap, iFight,  but your stupid-assed foray using "deep-seeded" shows you to be a maroon, a buffoon, and a dork who harbors about as much 'education' as a spittoon.

You are merely another lib twerp, typing out a mouthy check via keyboard that you haven't the intellect to cash.

Putz.

MD

 

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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forgot something Boudin*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:21pm.

If he is one of today's educators, then we already know he has "re-written" history. You know the one, the one that was our "reality".

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Idontcarefortruth*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:16pm.

Here is my favorite

http://www.cafepress.com/+all_cajun_womens_tshirt,232915677

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No Wonder

Submitted by stratman on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:23pm.

Armisen's portrayal of Obama is a warm bucket of spit.

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I can't help but wonder if

Submitted by rockyracoon on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:44pm.

I can't help but wonder if these people are paid to say these types of things, or are they just that stupid?

 

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

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Wonder no more

Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 7:51pm.

Their both, they get paid, and their stupid

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty
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SNL's tanking ratings reflect their audience.

Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 05/02/2012 - 8:07pm.

Public Access "Senior Roundup" at 4 AM Sunday morning gets better audiences.

SNL is just tired drivel, like all of MSNBC's irrelevant talking has-beens.

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I knew Obama was no good from his first...

Submitted by jawebster1 on Thu, 05/03/2012 - 1:30pm.

"I and me". Nothing has changed since then except, if anything, he has gotten even worse.

The fact that he gave Bush's administration zero credit for helping to locate Obama in his hovel where he was "holed" up, is all anyone needs to know about his lack of character and class.

For what it is worth, you can put me down as a "non-fan" of Barack Hussein Obama who will take great personal pleasure in cancelling out Armisen's vote come November!

Jim Webster
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