NBC Panelist Donny Deutsch: Tim Tebow Joining NY Jets 'Will Be His Waterloo'
Responding on Tuesday to NBC Today co-host Matt Lauer wondering if Tim Tebow would be the "right fit" for the New York Jets, advertising executive Donny Deutsch predicted the faithful quarterback was doomed: "Wrong. Couldn't have made a worse move. This will be his Waterloo. New York will take him down. We are a very tough, jaded city. They're not going to buy this unconditional love."
Lauer set up the question to the show's Today's Professionals panel by describing the New York culture as antithetical to Tebow's Christian values: "Is this a fit? This is New York City. The city that never sleeps. This is Joe Namath town, that he owned as a swinging bachelor. It's the city of A-Rod and Donald Trump."
On Thursday, Lauer posed the same question to his fellow co-hosts, with Ann Curry observing: "You know, he's so clean-cut, he's so earnest. And – and this is a tough town. New York is a very tough town." Savannah Guthrie announced it would be a "culture shock."
News anchor Natalie Morales joked: "I was going to say, it's a good thing the New York press is so forgiving – not!" Guthrie chimed in: "No, are you kidding? The tabloids are saying, 'Thank you, God. There is a God.'"
Lauer noted how the reaction to the move was "very mixed" and that, "There's a lot of negative comments, a lot of negative tweets. Joe Willy Nameth, the legendary coach – I mean, quarterback of the New York Jets, said he thinks it's a bad idea...Publicity stunt."
Later, weatherman Al Roker described the Jets as having "an embarrassment of riches" with Tebow on the team. Guthrie pointed out: "But, Tebow, isn't he known for inspiring and motivating his team mates? So maybe he'll be a positive force on the team." Curry concluded: "Welcome to New York Tim Tebow. We're excited to have you....Forget about all this talk."
Here is a transcript of Deutsch's March 27 comments:
8:16AM ET
(...)
MATT LAUER: Minute left, Tim Tebow introduced to the New York press yesterday as the new backup quarterback for the New York Jets. It was a spectacle press conference. Is this a fit? This is New York City. The city that never sleeps. This is Joe Namath town, that he owned as a swinging bachelor. It's the city of A-Rod and Donald Trump. Is Tim Tebow the right fit for this...
NANCY SNYDERMAN: And Matt Lauer.
LAUER: Well, I doubt it. Is he the right fit for this city?
DONNY DEUTSCH: Wrong. Couldn't have made a worse move. This will be his Waterloo. New York will take him down. We are a very tough, jaded city. They're not going to buy this unconditional love. I wish I was advising him. He should have steered right to Jacksonville.
STAR JONES: If he is authentic, then it will be fine
LAUER: I gotta go, alright? Star, Donny, Nancy, thank you very much.
SNYDERMAN: You bet, Matt.
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"We are a very tough, jaded city."
Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 4:46pm.
My. My. My! Ain't New Yawk proud of being such a "tough, jaded city," and it's just chock full of warm hearted, loving, fair, compassionate, diverse, liberals!
Someone from New York just answer me one question. Why are you sooooooo proud of being a bunch of assholes?
What is it about people like a Tim Tebow that threatens you so?
Yawk Here!
Submitted by TC Lynch on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:06pm.
This guy isn't a NY guy. Put him on a subway that leaves Manhattan and watch this little boy cry.
But New Orleans native and
Submitted by David-Ford on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:25pm.
But New Orleans native and graduate of University of Mississippi Eli Manning is? HA!
New Orleans Native living in New Joisey Here
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 6:48pm.
Tebow will be fine. This WILL NOT BE his Waterloo, rather it will be THE JETS ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE'S WATERLOO. Remember, the J-E-T-S Just End The Season were an 8-8 ballclub last year that collapsed with 3 games remaining. The offense was terrible.
As the old saying goes so truthfully: "If you have 2 quarterbacks on your team, then you have no quarterback".
Tough, jaded city...?
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:15pm.
What is it that makes NYC so tough?
I can't decide if it's the elimination of trans-fats and salt from foods, banning of smoking in buildings or blaming other states for their gun crimes.
Maybe it's all the above?
Well, Deutsch's knowledge of
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 4:47pm.
Well, Deutsch's knowledge of sports is...well, it isn't. Tebow can handle NYC.
You're right, Bal
Submitted by NOLAgirl on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 4:48pm.
Tebow CAN handle NYC and I think that's what pisses them off. People want to see him fail because they know where his strength comes from.
I don't know about all that.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 4:54pm.
I don't know about all that. But I think New Yorkers like to exaggerate about "how tough" the city is, that NYC is "the big leagues." And sure, the criticism is heavy and not bashful for athletes, but sometimes people in the media overplay that angle.
C'mon, bal; you ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:06pm.
"know about all that" .
But, as a liberal, you are not about to criticize your peers; it's so much easier to play the part of an ingenue.
MD
Hey I'm perfectly willing to
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:30pm.
Hey I'm perfectly willing to admit that there are people out there that don't like him because he's so religious. I don't think that's an overwhelming number, though. I'd be willing to bet a good number don't like him just because they think he's hyped as a better QB than they think he really is, that he can't really hack it in the NFL.
I said nothing about being "willing to admit" ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 7:25pm.
to something; I said that as a liberal you're not about to criticize your peers.
MD
Bleh. I have and will.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:02pm.
Bleh. I have and will.
I doubt that, bal, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:10pm.
as I haven't seen an example of it in my time here at NBs.
You are pretty much knee jerk with your defense of other libs; not in your disagreement with them.
MD
Well, if I was knee-jerk in
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:18pm.
Well, if I was knee-jerk in my disagreement with them, I'd be you, wouldn't I? Look, I'm a Democrat, but I know full well that there are a lot of looney tunes and other people I disagree with on my side of the political Ping Pong table.
Nah, you could never measure up to being me, bal, as ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:27pm.
I am a conservative - I stick with what I believe to be right while keeping an open mind; and I don't show up on liberal sites trying to come across as fair minded to people who will never be swayed.
Having said that, I would wager that far more liberals have matured and become conservative than the reverse.
MD
⇒ Fewer and fewer, matthew
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:32pm.
I have a feeling if we don't get this economy back in gear shortly after the election, the age at which grownups normally experience the "Road to Damascus" experience into conservatism will have been extended much later in life.
And that, Cool, while ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:34pm.
scary, is likely very true.
MD
⇒ The Progressive Dream
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:40pm.
The Progressive Dream is to drum a voting majority into such squalor that a federal solution looks downright lovely.
Enough people lose their jobs, and we're there.
Very impressive. But I don't
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:35pm.
Very impressive.
But I don't come on here to appear fair-minded, or to sway anyone. I come for the debate and to hear the other side.
Yeah, bal, and I used to peruse Playboy magazine ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:40pm.
for the written articles. :o)
MD
~Debate? You come for *debate*?!
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:10pm.
OMO, that is rich.
You slay me.
I'm dyin', here.
OMFO, you're a friggin' comedic genius. The only thing I've ever seen you debate is which of Jon Stewart's various orifices the sun rises out of.
Your welcome.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:41pm.
Your welcome.
Point goes to---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:46pm.
Bru.
MD
Come on
Submitted by Bliggie on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:28pm.
You know good and well it has nothing to do with his football ability, the MSM,ESPN and others in entertainment and sports want to see the guy fail because of his Christian beliefs and his family's strong pro-life stance on abortion. That's it.
It's just not that simple.
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:54pm.
It's just not that simple.
Sure it is. Just as Rush was
Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:31pm.
Sure it is. Just as Rush was excoriated for expressing what everyone knew about Donovan McNabb at the time, that the media wanted him to succeed, as it is here, where the media want Tebow to fail.
I see all this talk about how "controversial" he is, when all the guy is doing is being true to himself and his faith. It;s the frigging media creating the controversy.
Yes it is
Submitted by Bliggie on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 9:01am.
Again, if he were a Muslim and/or an atheist that was "pro choice" he would loved by the MSM etc. seems pretty simple to me
I agree that it's not that simple, balboa
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 11:40am.
But I will counter those in the sports media who question his skills and his abilities.
1. Statistics can be misleading, but in Tebow's case, his QB rating is rather low for the NFL.
2. But as unorthodox as he is compared to his peers, he won ball games in the clutch, and that's all that owners and coaches care about. His outcomes llast year at Denver far surpassed his stats, and he made believers (small "b") out of a lot of experts.
Because of this, I think the experts sought to find faults in Tebow's character; they wanted to prove that somehow he's fake, and so they focused on his "Tebowing" (They rarely if ever attack non-white players for religious gestures).
They gave him the Palin Treatment and they are praying (pun intended) for his failure despite the fact that he hasn't harmed anyone; in fact, he's been most congenial toward his opponents on and off the field. And not unlike Palin, the fact that he hasn't crumpled beneath the weight of their insults serves to make them angrier.
And should he fail, they will joyously celebrate and shout "We TOLD you so."
I think that's what's at the heart of this story.
That's what makes this sports story different than most.
I believe that a lot of
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 11:54am.
I believe that a lot of people that aren't pro Tebow want to see him fail simply so that they can rag on his supporters, not because they actually don't like him. It's like the person who hates the Yankees because of their fans.
But this whole Jets thing has all kinds of other problems, like a blowhard head coach, a starting QB already in place, and a NY media that loves controversy.
And I disagree
Submitted by Bliggie on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 1:02pm.
When you say it's not that simple. The so called experts have wanted Tebow to fail since his last game at UF, the sugar bowl in NOLA where he threw for almost 600 yards. They said he would never go in the first round of the draft, he did, said he would never be a starter, he was, said he'd never make the playoffs, he did. I mean we're talking about a guy who dominated the toughest conference in college football for 3 years and all the experts said he couldnt make it in the nfl. They have been wanting him to fail since the beginning, not because he proved them wrong by winning. They have wanted to find flaws in his character since he was in
College because of his beliefs on religion and pro life stance, again if he was Muslim or atheist we wouldn't be having this conversation because there is nothing polarizing about Islam or atheism, just a southern Christian
NYC *is* "the big leagues"
Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:26pm.
Sorry to have to break the news to you Bal.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
So...there are currently NO
Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:00pm.
So...there are currently NO good devout Christians on ANY NY sports team, or throughout NY as a whole?
So what disease did Snyderman speculate Tebow might have?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:06pm.
.
Wonder
Submitted by grammajane on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:33pm.
if Tebow were a muslum or black if the "educated" jerks at nbc would be judgeing this professional and decent football player? Just asking...
Great Point!
Submitted by Bliggie on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:49pm.
But we all know that he would be hailed as a "fighter" and that he "beat the odds" if either were the case. Not to mention if either were the case these haters would probably begin the conversation by saying, "Heisman trophy winning and national champion" tim tebow, which they never seem to say anymore. They can't help, he's a Christian, and even worse, a white southerner. He is everything liberals hate.
Um, a word to the wise-esp the wiseareses from Nitwit news...
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:41pm.
The New JERSEY Jets play in, practice in, and live in,,NEW JERSEY! Away from the Sin and Sex in the City!
You're not really trying to
Submitted by balboa on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:44pm.
You're not really trying to say there's no sex or sin in New Jersey, are you?
Most of the sex is
Submitted by Free Stinker on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 6:14pm.
Most of the sex is (coincidentally) near where ever I am.
The sin is mostly down in Atlantic City.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Not like in NYC, Bal
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 8:52pm.
He can have temptations, but he wont be living in and hanging out in Midtown Manhattan-BIG difference!
Not since I left! ; )
Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:34pm.
Not since I left! ; )
Right you are, my brother. Same with Big Blue.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 5:49pm.
{Ignore that guy above me}
Tebow will be just fine.........
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 6:23pm.
It is the NY JETS as a whole that will not survive. From Ownership to management to the coaching and the players, THEY will be the ones to crack. They don't know what they are doing on or off the field.
BTW, who is Donnie Douche, and who cares what this coconut has to say about Tim Tebow?
dj
Submitted by rockyracoon on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 7:04pm.
I couldn't agree more...fellow Jersyan (sp?)
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Actually rocky
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 7:12pm.
I'm a New Orleans native living in New Joisey.
Sorry
Submitted by rockyracoon on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 8:52pm.
I overlooked your previous post above. Anyway, I moved to the pacific northwest a few years ago, after living many years in Piscataway.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
Who is Donnie Douche?
Submitted by IrateNate on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:41pm.
Isn't he the guy who played Ralph on Happy Days...?
Donny is a dunce
Submitted by Savonarola on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 6:27pm.
There are not many real New Yorkers left in the city. They all moved out years ago. C'mon Donny, you should know that. If the city didn't pay to build a new stadium, the damn Yankees would have left.
Hey Douchebag
Submitted by ricklail on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 6:46pm.
He'll suceed because the is not afraid fo hard work, unlike you. He is willing to do what it takes to make the JETS, Jets, Jets, Jets a winner. If he is asked to be a tight end, he'll do it.
He didn't go to J'ville or Miami because the didn't want to be used as a marketing tool. Granted he'd filled the seats but he is a football palyer not a side show.
Deutsch may be right. Except
Submitted by celator on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 7:40pm.
Deutsch may be right. Except that Tebow will play the part of Wellington, not Napoleon.
I would
Submitted by bobsmom on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 8:38pm.
dearly love, just once, for someone to ask one of these buttcrumbs, "Ya know, Donny (or talking head of choice), I don't exactly understand the Waterloo reference, could you explain the genesis of that phrase for me?" Just once. I'm thinking we'd be subjected to some dead air (ala Soledad while she waited for someone to regurgitate wikipedia definitions of critical race theory in her ear). I'd be willing to bet, if put on the spot, as to just what the meaning of "Waterloo" is, he'd be exhibiting a classic deer in the headlights moment.
Most of the people going to the Jet's games
Submitted by Marsh on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:01pm.
are from the suburbs and they'll like Tim Tebow just fine.
In my humble opinion,
Submitted by Chaitealover on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 9:40pm.
Tebow chose NY over Jacksonville because that's where God wants him to spread the Gospel by the way he lives his life. All those poor, sad souls who think they know it all will be exposed to the example of someone who lives a decent God-fearing life. At first they won't understand it, so they will mock him, but then as they see the true joy that comes to a person living a Christ-like life, many will realize just what they've been missing out on. Maybe some of them will be smart enough to do something about it.
Chai
Deutsch is out of his league
Submitted by zachlind on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 10:37pm.
I occasionally see Donny Deutsch on Morning Bigot but watching him criticize NFL quarterback Tim Tibow on the Today show sort of makes you wonder. What’s a short dude metro-panzie type from NY doing popping off like this on “national” television, especially about and to someone like Tim Tebow. And can you imagine, Tebow looking at Deutsch and saying boo and a puddle starts to form around his $500 loafers.
You got that right......
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 03/27/2012 - 11:15pm.
It seems as if THE ONLY people on tv that have a problem with and are mocking Tim Tobow OUTRIGHT are Donny Douche and David Zirin, that douche from The Nation pinko commie rag (and M-BS-NBC contributor). Zirin is the guy who is outraged and thinks he is speaking on behalf of ALL LGBT people. Personally, I have YET to even hear a member of the LGBT community say a word about Tim Tebow. But then again, we are talking about people on NBC and M-BS-NBC.
Mr. Deutsch
Submitted by John21 on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 7:43am.
Mr. Deutsch doesn't understand the concept of love, probably never had any, with his limited knowledge and abrasive personality that is perfectly understandable. His ego and personality would not, could not admit that there is anythin more important on the planet than Donny Deutsch.
What does Tebow's beliefs and religion have to do with...
Submitted by gruyere cheese on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 7:43am.
his ability to play a good game?
"The city that never sleeps. This is Joe Namath town, that he owned as a swinging bachelor. It's the city of A-Rod and Donald Trump."
...and this Lauer dude earns millions for making this "stupid, uneducated statement". So, basically what he is trying to imply is that you have to play the sex game to fit in NYC?
Don
Submitted by desert3030 on Wed, 03/28/2012 - 9:28am.
Those that can do, those that can't don't. This also goes for 4' 4" wannebes. They hate the religous aspect so much they are willing to destory every thing around or assoicated with the person or group.
Dunnie, ask and check it out. How many winners has he played on since he was 8 years old.
No he doesn't wear a hoodie, beat up bus drivers, smoke dope. He surely does look like everyday Joe's son. Once again Dunnie, you are in foreign turf runnning down winners, but I need to remember your are a LIB and they stand for doing less.
I apologize in advance for my language
Submitted by Seashell on Thu, 03/29/2012 - 8:44am.
"I wish I was advising him. "
Donny, Tim does not need or want to be advised by some pansy-a$$ed, metro-sexual, douche bag like you so STFU!
OK-that felt good.
Good morning Seashell
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 03/29/2012 - 8:52am.
I liked the language. Tim will be OK because he has balls, backbone and class.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Good morning Cocodrie
Submitted by Seashell on Thu, 03/29/2012 - 11:00am.
Agreed! He'll be just fine. :)