Chris Matthews Reacts to JFK Mistress: Kennedy a Hero Who 'Still Arouses the Country'
Following a revealing interview with former JFK mistress Mimi Alford on Wednesday's NBC Rock Center, left-wing MSNBC host Chris Matthews, along with liberal historians Doris Kearns Goodwin and Richard Reeves, were invited on the broadcast to give a sycophantic defense of the womanizing president. [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]
Touting his new book, "Jack Kennedy: Elusive Hero," Matthews proclaimed: "The greatest heroes are often the most flawed." The Hardball host went on to gush over how Kennedy "colorized American politics....made it a technicolor movie, he made it exciting." In his characteristic fashion, Matthews concluded: "And so with it all, the total picture still arouses the country."
Host Brian Williams introduced the fawning discussion of Kennedy's legacy:
John Fitzgerald Kennedy remains a mythic figure in American public life and in the memories of so many of us. Meredith [Vieira]'s interview here tonight has just added, in a way, another chapter to that. So, what do we make of all of this? How do we square it with JFK's vaunted role in our history and our society?
While the airing of the interview had only concluded minutes before, Goodwin immediately attempted to dismiss Alford's shocking account: "People have already factored in the idea that he had other women in his life. Somehow the American people seem to have absorbed these stories over time and it hasn't changed their fundamental liking for the memory of John Kennedy."
Alford revealed details of her affair with Kennedy that certainly went beyond a general discussion of his philandering, she described a scene in which the late president encouraged her to perform oral sex on White House advisor Dave Powers.
Goodwin remarked: "We expect our husbands, our friends to have certain kinds of fidelity toward us. We expect our leaders to give us good leadership and that's a different thing....You can feel a sense of disappointment but it doesn't mean that you're judging them completely differently as a result of finding out something like this."
Reeves announced: "John F. Kennedy, and his wife too, are cultural figures who will live far beyond their years. There was a universality about their virtues, their looks. They were beautiful and we like to see ourselves reflected in them and I just don't think that's going to change."
Here is a transcript of the February 8 exchange:
9:55PM ET
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WILLIAMS: As we said at the beginning of our broadcast tonight, John Fitzgerald Kennedy remains a mythic figure in American public life and in the memories of so many of us. Meredith's interview here tonight has just added, in a way, another chapter to that. So, what do we make of all of this? How do we square it with JFK's vaunted role in our history and our society? We thought it was important to add something here and so we asked three authors to reflect on the Kennedy legacy with this in mind. Here now, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Chris Matthews and Richard Reeves, all three have researched and written books about John F. Kennedy and tonight all three weigh in on the President's legacy. Starting with Chris, whose most recent book about JFK is called "Jack Kennedy: Elusive Hero."
CHRIS MATTHEWS: I called him an elusive hero because that's what Jacqueline Kennedy, his widow, said many years later. She said, "That unforgettable elusive man." Even she couldn't quite figure out who he was.
JOHN F. KENNEDY: A nation reveals itself not only by the men it produces but also by the men it honors, the men it remembers.
MATTHEWS: The greatest heroes are often the most flawed.
DORIS KEARNS GOODWIN: People have already factored in the idea that he had other women in his life. Somehow the American people seem to have absorbed these stories over time and it hasn't changed their fundamental liking for the memory of John Kennedy.
RICHARD REEVES: John F. Kennedy, and his wife too, are cultural figures who will live far beyond their years. There was a universality about their virtues, their looks. They were beautiful and we like to see ourselves reflected in them and I just don't think that's going to change.
MATTHEWS: He broke his life up into separate pieces, separate compartments, and they were very sealed off, each from the other. He had a frightening strength of being able to read everyone else's emotions but not let them affect him. He did what he wanted to do, regardless of other people's feelings. And I think that made him strong, it also brought him into the area we're talking about here.
GOODWIN: We expect our husbands, our friends to have certain kinds of fidelity toward us. We expect our leaders to give us good leadership and that's a different thing.
KENNEDY: I believe we should go to the moon.
GOODWIN: You can feel a sense of disappointment but it doesn't mean that you're judging them completely differently as a result of finding out something like this.
RICHARD REEVES: I certainly never saw a single instance where his private life or his health affected national policy. And his health was a much more hidden secret than the womanizing was.
GOODWIN: There's the Cuban missile crisis, the decisiveness with which he dealt with that, there's the nuclear test ban treaty, there's the beginning move toward the desegregation law, there's the man on the moon, there's Peace Corps, there's the idealism of that period of time. And then you've got on top of that, a life cut short by the assassination, all of which allows to you imagine what might have been had he lived longer.
KENNEDY: The torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans.
MATTHEWS: Jack Kennedy colorized American politics. He took it from black and white and made it a technicolor movie, he made it exciting. And from that moment on every guy that's come up through high school has said, "I want to be Jack Kennedy." And so with it all, the total picture still arouses the country. The whole picture.
WILLIAMS: Our thanks to Doris Kearns Goodwin, Richard Reeves and Chris Matthews. That is our broadcast for this week. For all the good people who worked hard to bring it to you, thank you for being with us.
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Oh, please, spare us the hyperbole.
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:36pm.
"John Fitzgerald Kennedy remains a mythic figure in American public life and in the memories of so many of us."
Get real, will you? Most people alive today don't even know who JFK was. Since they were born after he died, he's just another name in the history book. All they know of JFK are two things: the Cuban Missile Crisis, and his assassination. He's no more "mythical" than Grover Cleveland.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Media and Marilyn Monroe
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:43pm.
It is annoying how high regard they hold someone screwing around with JFK also. Do they really think his wife or kids benefited from their freely chosen behaviors? Just like any excuse like "born that way." Right! And the drug use. Just fantistic you know!
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Thrill in a bubble
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:48pm.
I agree with you. Matthews lives in a bubble that formed in the Sixties, but burst for most everyone within ten years.
His adoration of the Kennedys -- especially JFK whom he always refers to as "Jack" -- deludes his perspective. That's why he made the homoerotic reference to Obama on Election Night 2008 -- because Obama was JFK-like to him.
Camelot is fading, not unlike the New Deal did, as those who were caught up in it die off.
For God's Sake, Tinglebell! Keep it in Your Pants!
Submitted by farstar99 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 7:49pm.
For God's Sake, Tinglebell! Keep it in Your Pants!
What is it with this guy and his arousal for men?
He should just come out and get it over with.
I watched the program last night, including these . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:39pm.
. . . post-interview comments from the Kennedy worshippers, and it was amusing that this revelation doesn't change their opinion of JFK one bit. They even refer to the Camelot myth and (their claim) of its impact on our lives.
But as I posted elsewhere, the "compartmentalization" of life that Matthews' attributes to JFK is actually their compartmentalization of his life. They can't let the myth get tarnished; he and Jackie were the vibrant, beautiful First Couple with two beautiful little children, and everyone wants to be like them. Separate from their myth is the reality of a randy, risk-taking President who used women purely for sexual gratification, and whose wife was apparently just a high-brow breeder of his clan.
Nothing was mentioned about JFK's flying Alford all the way to Washington to fornicate, presumably at taxpayer expense. Alford described how she would wait alone in hotel rooms while he attended some event, then screwed her afterward -- all set up by his team of facilitators. She realized years later that she was nothing more than free hooker to JFK, but he let her think she was the special one. Bill Clinton is identical to this schmuck.
Even lower scum using peoples hearts like that
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:46pm.
Very good point Galvanic: "She realized years later that she was nothing more than free hooker to JFK, but he let her think she was the special one. Bill Clinton is identical to this schmuck."
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
And Matthews even excuses the behavior . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:20pm.
. . . when he insists that "standards were different then," and points to (of all things) the TV-series Mad Men as the example, like pointing to That '70s Show as an example of standards in the '70s. All BS.
He even made reference to his belief that JFK loved his wife, but he had this 'rogue' side to his personality. Oh, really?
Matthews is ridiculous.
Note to the similarities in JFK and Clinton. Alford says that he never kissed her or told her that he loved her, and she never addressed him as anything other than "Mr. President." She was little more than a piece of Oval Office equipment.
Lewinsky recounted how Slick Willie didn't even remember her name after a couple of interludes.
In both cases, the President gave the Royal Concubine cheap gifts as gratitude. What gentlemen.
I would ask Matthews and Goodwin: "If Alford were your daughter, would you still hold JFK in high regard?" And let their daughters hear the answer.
If she was....
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:50pm.
If she was Mathews' daughter, he'd ask her to provide him with a detailed drawing of the president's lower region so he could 'enjoy' it later.
Impact?? What impact??
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:52pm.
the Camelot myth and (their claim) of its impact on our lives.
Exactly what is different than what it would have been if JFK had not been president for a time?
The Camelot myth is exactly that....a myth.
When you come right down to it, JFK is nothing more than the ultimate straw man.
so tired of the Kennedy AND Camelot
Submitted by texasborngranny on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 11:33am.
myths. "...whose wife was apparently just a high-brow breeder of his clan."
She may have been 'high-brow', but she wasn't much of a breeder.
what
Submitted by grammajane on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:44pm.
huge accomplishments did jfk complete? He was young, handsome and a swinger but, what else?
Marilyn Monroe.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:58pm.
That's all I got.
~It didn't take much to jump that fence
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:58pm.
.
Marilyn
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:04pm.
You have to appreciate Marilyn Monroe but Jackie was notable on her own merits.
I gotta go with Sick on this, Agnostic.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:43pm.
Blonds are way more fun, and MM had to be one of the sexiest babes of my generation!
~*ahem*
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:43pm.
.
On the other hand, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 10:45pm.
... I do love brunettes, redheads, and really black tresses, but especially brunettes if they are also Southern girls!
Nice tapdance there, bubba!!
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 11:28pm.
Nice tapdance there, bubba!! I swear I saw you doing the moonwalk!!!
I suppose, but I could never get beyond that weirdo accent.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:51pm.
Same with the pillbox hats.
Camelot
Submitted by Nosmo on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:47pm.
Camelot? ......More like Came-a-lot.
JFK...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 12:54am.
...definitely used his "Lance-a-lot"...
delete
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:48pm.
delete
Sorry
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 1:53pm.
I already wasn't a fan of the Kennedy Crime Family. This news won't sway me in that direction.
For Cryin Out Loud Chrissy
Submitted by sergeant stogie on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:02pm.
Just come out already
Back when I was a lib I used
Submitted by shannon76 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:01pm.
Back when I was a lib I used to have a great deal of affection for the JFK/Camelot mystique. But then I grew up and really (really) thought about it. He's overrated, wasn't that amazing a President, and he wasn't a virtuous human being.
So when I hear Chrissy and his Thrill, I understand where he's coming from, but I also think Matthews sounds so silly when he talks about how beautiful and handsome the Kennedy's were. We've got this ridiculous national debt, we're spending an obscene amount of money on entitlements we can't pay for, we're destroying our monetary currency, and this guy Matthews thinks great leadership can be described in terms of the handsomeness of our politicians.
Personally I think our culture has moved beyond this obsession with the Kennedy's and their mystique.
Isn't that how baseball
Submitted by Sude23 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 7:26pm.
Isn't that how baseball players are picked?
"The greatest heroes are often the most flawed."
Submitted by shannon76 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:07pm.
Preposterous.
The need to use hyperbole is insulting. If he'd just said 'hey, no one's perfect' or 'sometimes good men make mistakes', then fine. But Tingles' need to elevate JFK to a mythic figure is absurd.
If the saying is true, I expect Chrissy to write next about
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:17pm.
Benedict Arnold. After all, he just had one minor flaw, right Chrissy?
By his logic Obama is the
Submitted by Sude23 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 7:30pm.
By his logic Obama is the Greatest if not the most Godly like person in the entire universe.
Do you mean Bush?
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:24pm.
"The greatest heroes are often the most flawed."
So, I guess that means that George W. Bush, that bumbling, flawed, idiotic President who lied, who spied, and who cheated his way into the presidency to begin with , as we have been told for over 12 years now, is the greatest Hero of all time, Right?
By the way, Chrissy. JFK was the most "black and white" President in recent history. There was no compromising with him or his policies. You ether did what he said, pronto, or he would send our military after you. It didn't matter whether his demands were international, as in the Cuban Missile Crisis, or domestic, as in sending troops into Arkansas to enforce his school integration policies. For JFK, it was ether my way or the highway, and there's no if's, and's, or but's about it. As JFK himself said: There's always some S.O.B who doesn't get the memo, HIS memo!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
JFK, "I believe we should go to the moon"
Submitted by deadeyedan on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:17pm.
At least they managed to include the real reason Jack Kennedy got people excited. Too bad what has happened to manned space flight since (and the ones who have been so willing to embrace the Kennedy mantra are the ones who have been most responsible for its demise).
Since his time there have been two awkward, by the book and within the confines of business-as-usual attempts to have a grand return to space by two meek presidents named Bush. What's going to be required is a dramatic, bold initiative to return the way a great nation ought to, unlike that proposed by Bush look-alike Mitt Romney.
It seems he may not be particularly concerned about such life-saving medical advances such as heart pacemakers, CT-scanning devices, MRI's or advanced dialysis technique.
Can he put a measure on the growth of the digital age because of aggressive manned space flight? Does he have a grasp of the value of GPS or of the ability of near instantaneous world-wide communication? Isn't there something to being able to detect hurricanes as soon as they form and even detecting the conditions that can enable their development?
The best way out of our current economic mess is an aggressive push back into space while reminding everyone of the potential benefits and therefore the VALUE of going back to the moon.
One candidate has such a plan, I'll let you guess who it is.
GENUINE SCIENCE - neutral, not neutralized
Throw Clinton and Obama into the mix too.
Submitted by CobraMan on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:27pm.
You need to throw both Clinton and Obama into the weak attempt to return to space category as well. Both of them declared that the Moon isn't an important goal, Mars is. Both of them proposed a multi-decade "program" to "land a man on Mars," don't forget.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
And how "inspiring" they've been
Submitted by deadeyedan on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:53pm.
The "plans" by Bubba and The One were both designed to fail.
In the mid-'60's NASA's budget (while building the Saturn V moon rocket) hovered a little over five billion. Even then health care and entitlements were burdgeoning over thirty billion, making NASA's share of the combined total close to 14%.
Fast forward to 1993, NASA was at fourteen and half billion, but health care/entitlements had skyrocketed (hate to use that term here) to seven hundred seventy billion, putting NASA's share at hardly 2%.
The next year, NASA was down to fourteen billion and fraud, just fraud, in Medicare and Medicaid was sixteen billion.
In 1998 NASA, at thirteen billion was back to 14%, of something. Add what the nation spent on illicit narcotics (thirty-eight billion), law enforcement attempts at fighting narcotics (thirty-seven billion) and the amount the country spent on pornography (ten billion), and we're up to eighty-five billion and NASA was now close to 14% of that. (Congratulations.)
And that figure of eighty-five billion was prominent for another reason that year; in the days before the Microsoft breakup that was Bill Gates' personal fortune.
If what transpired between 1993 and 1998 was extrapolated to 2006, NASA's budget would have been less than both the amount we would have spent on pornography and Bill Gates' annual income.
In 2009 fraud in Medicare was sixty billion, fraud in Medicaid was another sixty billion and the fraud in the Bernie Madoff scandal was also sixty billion, coming to a total of one hundred eighty billion, a full ten times greater than NASA's eighteen billion that year.
And Hillary says there's a "vast right-wing conspiracy".
Where? How?
LIBERALISM - government of the people by the theories and for the ideologists
The Saturn 5 was built before the EPA, stomped out freedom
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:46pm.
Man ain't leaving earth orbit, for a very long time.
The Saturn 5 rocket delivered 50 tons into lunar orbit.
China with Clinton's help is no where near, any sort of booster system like that.
Personally I think we could strap a bunch of fuel tanks on the ISS and travel the inner solar system with that unit , better hurry before it "corrodes" away.
You Didn't Build That.
Two new reactors
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:57pm.
have been approved with enough time to be a political ploy until election time but with enough time before actually starting construction to squash the project after elections but before the project actually gets off the ground.
Nothing better than killing a project after loans are farmed out
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 5:24pm.
And 100,000 yards of concrete is poured.
That's when the envirokooks strike, with the help of the lefty court system, after the project starts.
What's the monthly pay out on a 6 billion pipeline that will never deliver oil. And how long can a company keep shelling out that monthly payment.
Electricity prices will skyrocket, after 13 billion of utilities cash is sunk into rebar ghost project.
I'm amazed that optimistic business men still plan and commit to projects, that will be highjacked and ripped off by ________ bureaucrats.
You Didn't Build That.
ghost projects
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 11:34am.
I believe they insure against such issues now. While most get paid what is owed for the work that is done before the injunctions kick in there are still a lot of workers counting on income that are usually hurt. The environmental lawyers get to charge their exceedingly large foundations for their 'efforts'. The insurance covers the business owners (to some degree). The average American gets the shaft. Politics and economics in the post capitalist age.
I'll tell
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:19pm.
I'll tell ya.................the LegHumper sure gets 'aroused' a lot by his lib President man-crushes. He even got so 'thrilled' about Boy Barry that he forgot that Barry was 'black'.
"Arouse?" An interesting word to use in this matter;
Submitted by KyWriter on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:21pm.
JFK was in a perpetual state of arousal. I suspect he, Slick Willy, and Barry O were or are all aroused by the screwing they delivered or are delivering to the country. Remember the basic narrative of Camelot was Lancelot banging Guinevere behind Arthur's back. The difference is that Barry is performing right in front of the entire country and the MSM is cheering him on.
I will let God judge JFK's
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:21pm.
I will let God judge JFK's behavior. We are all human and we all are sinners. However, to exhault JFK and worship him like so many on the Left do is quite pathetic.
When ever I talk to a Lefty about JFK, I point out to the fact that he was a womanizer, supposedly something that Left wingers hate, right? using women for pleasure. (But heck, the women power crowd, the radical feminists were all ready to sleep with Clinton when he was caught in his sleeping around. So much for the feminists).
JFK's foreign policy is something Left wingers of today hate. JFK was for preemptive strikes, Cuban missle crisis anyone? he was ready to bomb the heck out of Cuba and the Soviet Union BEFORE either one attacked us. During 8 years of Bush all we heard was how horrific and immoral preemptive strikes are.
JFK was all about cutting taxes, something else the Left hates.
JFK fits well with the lack of morality that is so prevelant on the Left, but much of his domestic and foreign policies are not in aligment with today's Democratic party.
Joe Kennedy and Hitler
Submitted by creative_destruction on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:59pm.
The Ole man was a raging anti-semite who admired Hitler , so did his son Joe jr. and I imagine John did to . The family was dirty, very dirty.
Steve
Plagiarizer Goodwin
Submitted by Nosmo on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:30pm.
There never would have been a 'missile crisis' if Kennedy had not flubbed the 'bay of pigs'.
By the way, let us not forget
Submitted by Liberallies on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 2:41pm.
By the way, let us not forget that Presdient JFK bought his way into the Presidency via Chicago!
The amount of cheating, dead people that voted for JFK, the amount of pay for play that went on so he could get into the White House puts to shame even the most corrupt politicians of today.
This is what Liberals adore, worship and bow down to. Shameful!
Herd control
Submitted by creative_destruction on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:54pm.
The left knows how to manipulate the human herd. They do it well ie Kennedy and Obama . That is why the media complex must be broken up to preserve or Republic.
Steve
It's Morphed
Submitted by jakesnake on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:03pm.
The Kennedy "Mystique" has morphed into the Kennedy "Mistake."
noballs
Submitted by CJohnson on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:20pm.
I suppose most Kennedy's would be a mystique, to a eunuch.
aroused
Submitted by midwest lady on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:40pm.
oh chrissy, kind of like you get aroused by o'bama. Soon "The thrill will be gone".
MATTHEWS: Jack Kennedy
Submitted by WarEagle66 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:47pm.
MATTHEWS: Jack Kennedy colorized American politics. He took it from black and white and made it a technicolor movie, he made it exciting. And from that moment on every guy that's come up through high school has said, "I want to be Jack Kennedy." And so with it all, the total picture still arouses the country. The whole picture.
NOPE....I never, ever, ever said that. I think it's amazing how stupid Matthews sounds when he basically services Kennedy on a nightly basis. Seriously, Matthews and his ilk have so dumbed down the education system in America that I would bet most kids have no idea who is JFK.
Agreed
Submitted by Galvanic on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:51pm.
I graduated from high school in 1972, and neither I nor anyone I ever met ever wanted to be like JFK.
Do you mean to say that you and the people you met...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 4:37am.
did not want to be dead and buried like JFK was? I can understand that.
I think the Leghumper
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 11:16am.
I think the Leghumper actually meant to say 'I want to DO Jack Kennedy'............................and he seems to be back into that mode with Boy Barry too.
JFK
Submitted by creative_destruction on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 3:53pm.
The Kennedy's are what I call "good" Catholics, or to use another term, they are Christians in name only. I have met many of both kinds during my life time. It is frightening, how the lib media, and the Catholic church have been able to cover the considerable sins of this family. And sadder still is that a man like Mathews would still carry this mans water for him. Just disgraceful!
Steve
Doris the plagarist? Little Chrissy? Williams? Viera?
Submitted by Herbster on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:12pm.
Kennedy was like the present occupant of the White House......all sizzle and no steak! All smoke and mirrors. A media created "Royalty." Camelot, crapalot! Look under the pillbox hat and there's nothing there. Beginning with the old man we started to see what is the classic definition of White Trash.
As for the group leading this vomitorious love in.......a study in classic liberal rewriting of history.
Ain't History Interesting?
Submitted by rammingspeed on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:37pm.
JFK was sex obsessed and that part of his life was dominant. Getting "strange" was his motivation for everything, politics and becoming president included. This was all divulged by people who knew him, but the information was suppressed as much as possible by the fawning American media. He was a degenerate. Many degenerates are highly successful in their professional lives: Judges, doctors, clergymen. You get the point. But being a charming, handsome stud boat about whom everyone wrote nice things, doesn't let him off the hook. And this has been a large part of his total legacy, which is a good thing.
And in other news... Michelle Obama is out of the whitehouse
Submitted by upcountrywater on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 5:01pm.
First lady Michelle Obama spends the next two days in North Texas....Food raming
With Berry home wondering around the house....what to do what to do.....
You Didn't Build That.
Of course things were
Submitted by kangaroo on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 5:14pm.
Of course things were different back then, there was no internet
"When you reach the end of your rope, tie a knot in it and hang on"--Thomas Jefferson
Im sure JFK gave Chrissy
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 5:37pm.
A thrill up his leg! And if anyone DARES to insult the image of Jackie boy, well, Chrissy will show them!
Kennedy a hero
Submitted by OldLeprechaun on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 6:25pm.
"Kennedy a Hero Who 'Still Arouses the Country'"
Seems like the one who gets most 'aroused' by left-wing politicians is Chrissy.
Anyone wanting an interesting read read about the Kennedys might want to locate of a copy of "Nemesis" by British author Peter Evans. A great companion book is "Greek Fire: The Story of Maria Callas and Aristotle Onassis" by Nicholas Gage. Evans' book details the relationship between the Kennedy family and Ari Onassis, while Gage's deals with the Kennedy's more tangentially, but is still a fascinating look JackieO.
It turns out that Kennedy aroused himself...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 4:31am.
a lot more than he aroused the Country...with the exception of "Tingles" Matthews, of course.
here in MA, the brain-dead voters are threatening
Submitted by agingcynic on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 9:35am.
to replace Barney Frank with Joe Kennedy III, son of a failed congressman and grandson of Bobby K, purely on the basis of his name, ZERO qualifications. The Boston Globe is already calling him a shoo-in. I call it battered voter syndrome. On the broadcast Wed. night, I notice they had a picture of Jackie a few days before she gave birth to a son who died shortly after, Patrick. She was smoking an unfiltered cigarette. Our image of these people was made up of whole cloth by the same media that lies to us now and Chrissy Tingle is emblematic of it.
Spot on
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 10:20am.
It's been almost 50 years since JFK was assassinated, and almost 45 years since his brother was killed.
Their public image was shaped both by their media managers and publicists, and a very sympathetic press that didn't report on their "private lives."
For the Kennedy worshippers like Matthews, that image is frozen in time and with each revelation of the dark side of the Kennedys, they separate the dark facts from the Camelot image in order to maintain the fantasy. Matthews claims that JFK had an ability to compartmentalize his life, but it's actually Matthews who compartmentalizes it in order to avoid a shattering of the image he clings to.
Matthews, afterall, was so inspired by the dashing JFK and his New Frontier rhetoric that he joined Kennedy's creation, the Peace Corps. In that sense, he made an investment of both time and emotions to follow JFK's vision. To accept JFK as a flawed and reckless President would be to admit that he, like so many young Americans of the period, was duped, and that all the alturism of Camelot was little more than political hype.
They are in denial, and they will remain so until the day they die.
'arouses'
Submitted by texasborngranny on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 11:29am.
He actually said, "arouses".
What an idiot.
apologies for the redundancy.
OMG! = Obama Must Go!
Permanent damage after 4 hrs. Chris
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 4:42pm.
I wonder what decades does?
I HATE those "mens" ads on TV! I would ban them! They just are not kosher.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Kennedy had much in common with Lincoln ...
Submitted by NL207 on Fri, 02/10/2012 - 4:52pm.
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.
The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.
Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both were shot in the head.
Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's secretary was named Lincoln.
Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners.
Both successors were named Johnson.
Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.
John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.
Both assassins were known by their full names.
Both names comprise fifteen letters.
Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.
Booth and Oswald were both assassinated before their trials.
And, the most recent fact noted ...
A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was in Marilyn Monroe.
No Messing with JFK!
Submitted by berlet98 on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 2:47am.
No Messing with JFK!
It’s not nice to mess with Mother Nature. In the perceptions of Democrats, it’s even less nice to mess with Dem-liberal icons such as America’s 35th and first Irish-Catholic president, John Fitzgerald Kennedy.
I wasn’t of legal voting age in 1960 and didn’t live in Chicago where such legalities didn’t much matter, so I didn’t vote for JFK although, at 18, I thought Jack Kennedy was the greatest thing to come on the scene since sliced Irish soda bread.
I maintained that immature viewpoint through Jack’s narrow election victory and until he proved he was more liberal than he was presidential, not anywhere near the mold of America’s current extreme leftist chief executive but still far from what I had anticipated of him.
As it subsequently turned out, JFK was more in Bill Clinton’s mold.
In my admittedly harshly though accurately-titled article, “JFK: Whoremaster, Pimp, Drug Pusher,” I discussed Mimi Beardsley Alford’s new book, Once Upon a Secret: My Secret Affair with JFK, which details the author’s experiences as a 19 year old Kennedy White House intern in 1962. (http://bit.ly/ygir7l)
According to Alford’s recollections, Jack was indeed a whoremaster, pimp, and drug pusher who seduced her in Jackie Kennedy’s private bedroom, carried on a lengthy affair with her, farmed her out to perform oral sex on his buddy, Dave Powers–while Jack watched–and suggested she take his prescribed drugs, which she refused to do.
Of course, fifty years later, there is little possibility of verifying Mimi Alford’s allegations and hence no hindrances on the media alleging it’s all baloney. There are no other living witnesses and, regrettably, no Monica Lewinsky blue dress dna evidence, evidence that wouldn’t deter JFK idolators, anyway.
Following the usual script, liberals are now busily attacking both Alford’s remembrances–which would be extremely difficult to fabricate–and her motives in publishing her book. . . (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=12722.)