NBC Brings On Left-Wing Host to Slam 'Far-Right' Objections to Obama Birth Control Mandate
After finally deciding to actually cover the controversy swirling around the Obama administration's attempt to force Catholic institutions to pay for birth control in health insurance plans, NBC's Today on Tuesday brought on leftist MSNBC host Rachel Maddow to dismiss all legitimate opposition to the move as a "pretty far-right perspective" and "an extension of anti-abortion politics." [Listen to the audio or watch the video after the jump]
While co-host Matt Lauer began by wondering if President Obama had "miscalculated on the issue," he quickly seized on Maddow's supposed "logic" on the topic: "...you hear people saying President Obama could suffer because of this in the election, and yet, you use your logic there, if the majority of women in this country say that they use birth control, could this backfire on the Republican candidates who are now making it the issue?"
Maddow fretted that "millions" of women would have to pay for contraceptives "out-of-pocket" if the government did not force religious institutions to pay for the them. She then contemptuously ranted: "All of the Republican candidates...have supported legislation that could make birth control illegal, this personhood stuff."
In his final question on the issue, Lauer asked if the whole controversy would just "fizzle out." Not only did Maddow agree with such wishful thinking, but she followed with a bizarre nonsensical analogy:
Listen, if there's a bus driver opening and you're Amish, nobody's going to say you can't apply for that because you're Amish. But if you get the job and say, "Actually, I can't drive this bus, I'm Amish." People are going to say, if it's a bus driving gig, you've got to be able to drive. And if it's health insurance, it includes contraception, it's part of health care in the 21st century.
Lauer didn't bother to bring on an opponent of the administration's policy to debate Maddow.
It was not the first time NBC brought on Maddow to discuss the issue, on Sunday's Meet the Press she denounced the GOP for "waging war on contraception."
Here is a transcript of the Lauer's February 7 exchange with Maddow:
7:13AM ET
MATT LAUER: Rachel Maddow is the host of the Rachel Maddow show on MSNBC. Rachel, good morning, good to have you here.
RACHEL MADDOW: Hey, Matt. Thanks.
LAUER: Back in 2008, 27% of the people who voted identified themselves as Catholic. President Obama won in that group 54 to 45%. Has he miscalculated on the issue?
MADDOW: You know, I don't think so. I've heard a lot of people say that and I don't read it that way. I see this as large – part of a larger issue on contraception. And right now, all of the Republican candidates have taken pretty far-right perspective – perspectives on contraception, I think seeing it as an extension of anti-abortion politics. Not only do a vast majority of Catholics use birth control, but 80% of Americans think that most health insurance – all health insurance plans should be required to cover it.
LAUER: So, when you look and you hear people saying President Obama could suffer because of this in the election, and yet, you use your logic there, if the majority of women in this country say that they use birth control, could this backfire on the Republican candidates who are now making it the issue?
MADDOW: This kind of decision could mean hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American women can't get health insurance coverage for contraception. Mitt Romney further wants to eliminate all federal family planning support. So, that means that women are going to have to pay for birth control out-of-pocket under the Republicans' plans right now. And all of the Republican candidates, including Mitt Romney, have supported legislation that could make birth control illegal, this personhood stuff.
LAUER: So, is there traction to this? Is this an issue that's going to last well into the election or the campaign or is this going to be something that's going to fizzle out?
MADDOW: I think this is going to – I think this is going to fizzle out. Listen, if there's a bus driver opening and you're Amish, nobody's going to say you can't apply for that because you're Amish. But if you get the job and say, "Actually, I can't drive this bus, I'm Amish." People are going to say, if it's a bus driving gig, you've got to be able to drive. And if it's health insurance, it includes contraception, it's part of health care in the 21st century.
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This has nothing to do with the USE of a product.
Submitted by c5then on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:23pm.
It is about the use of government force to make people pay for a product that is against their regligious values and tennants. This is completely unamerican and is moving into the realm of a dictatorship.
Just like the Healthcare debate. Not about access to healthcare just about who pays for it.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Exactly
Submitted by ant on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:29pm.
I could see from this transcript they are framing it as a 'women's health' issue when this is a matter of the Fed mandating against one's faith. But it's to be expected, besides the fact that they are Dim shills, the secular media and other liberals have 0 understanding or respect for the Christian faith.
And why the hell would you bring on a known lesbian to talk about birth-control issues? I remember the leftist whining years ago that men should have no say in the abortion debate because they don't get pregnant...well, neither will Madcow, unlessTrojan has made remarkable advances in plastic products.
And the Obama Administration may have . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:58pm.
. . . grossly miscalculated on this if they took Maddow's perspective.
It is true that a lot of women used birth control, but it would be wrong to assume that they all want to force this mandate on religious institutions.
There are women who wil never consider having an abortion for themselves, but are pro-choice because they don't want to prohibit that option for others.
Similarly, there are likely many women who enjoyed birth control service from their health care provider, but are reluctant to force religious institutions to comply with Obamacare.
The majority of Americans want to see Obamacare repealed, which must've surprised Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. They may also be surprised at the sympathy the RCC gets on this one.
ON A RELATED TOPIC: Does anyone know if a Christian Scientist gets exempted from the mandate to pay a fine for not buying a health care plan?
Rachel Maddow, noted authority on birth control.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:26pm.
"Mr. Lauer, so who do you want us to get for this segment?"
Mr. Lauer: "I think the choice is clear: Ms. Maddow, of course."
Yup,
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:36pm.
if ever a natural Trojan spokesperson was born, Maddow is it.
She does remind me...
Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:44pm.
...of both the soldier and the product.
Maddow.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:53pm.
The "poster boy" for birth control!
It is becoming apparent that
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:30pm.
It is becoming apparent that this is an attempt to force all religious institutions to stop offering health insurance to their employees so as to create further crisis and further necessity for government run healthcare.
That is if they are somehow able to overcome the first amendment prohibition on this type of tyranny.
But the alternative for not providing health care . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:57pm.
. . . is a fine. This is what small businesses have been squawking about.
If the tyrant left doesn't
Submitted by MrSnuggles on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:38pm.
If the tyrant left doesn't backdown and the supreme court doesn't strike this law down, they will have no choice but to pay the fine
Not so.
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:58pm.
I believe I heard one of the Bishops state that they would not pay the fine either. Either way, there is always a choice.
Ms. Madcow and the liberals
Submitted by John21 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:37pm.
Ms. Madcow and the liberals are trying desparately to change the conversation, this is not about birth control, that could be worked out in a number of ways.
This is about government enforcing mandatory principals on a religion without justification or authority. This is about freedom of choice, that they claim is so important (as long as it is the liberals choice). This about creating state control over all aspects of the American peoples lives. They know this and are desparately trying to change the topic (as always) to say that they are in fact the agrieved party and they are just doing what is right but those metal midgits that believe are just not smart enough to understand.
This is just another step in the liberals parade to a socialist government controlled by them, ruled by them and absolute power for them. In other words like most socialist attempts a powerplay to keep the elite above the rabble.
It's not just religion.
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:56pm.
"This is about government enforcing mandatory principals on a religion without justification or authority."
It's not just religious organizations that's being affected here, it all employers. Obama's mandate, which, I believe, is Unconstitutional as he's imposing government control over "interstate commerce" (isn't that the "clause" they used to force people to purchase insurance, and for all employers to offer said insurance to their employees?) without Congressional approval or support (something that clearly violates the Constitution as only Congress has the power to "regulate commerce between the various states) is so far reaching, creates such a president for Presidential mandates over the business actions of private employers, that it will, if left unchallenged, have untold negative consequences for decades to come.
Also, the hypocrisy being displayed by the left is amazing. Just imagine the uproar by the liberals that would have happened if Bush would have "mandated" something similar to this, like forcing all employers to "include" things like coverage for hunting accidents in their insurance policy offerings. Hypocrites like Maddow would have screamed at the top of their lungs about how Unconstitutional these types of mandates are. But, hay, since it's a fellow liberal who's blatantly violating the Constitution, well, they have no problem with it whatsoever. That is, of course, until a mandate is issued that interferes with their "choice," their' right." Then it's a whole new can of worms.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Double post
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:47pm.
Opps, double post, sorry
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Eggs-akley!
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 2:00pm.
And the left frames it (as only they can) to say that women all over the Earth will stop receiving any 'health care' whatsoever and will be dying by the millions (billions?).
Randy Madcow Is Still Angry That ...
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:38pm.
She's a lesbian?
She's always hyperventilating as if there a cruise missile in her backside.
Maybe (s)he spent too much time with Olberman?
I loved this line the best:
"waging war on contraception."
So Randy... Why would you care? You're a twisted lesbian. You are a man-hater. You're a hyped-on-yourself-ass-clown. You can't get pregnant, so why do you care about your idiot sisters who can't figure out how not to?
Your smug, arrogant, and perverted lifestyle offends my religious beliefs. Yet, I tolerate your presence on the air, because all it does is drive MSNBC's rating deeper into the tank.
So can't your please respect my religious conviction, you oinker?
The Obamination... A crisis leading to a catastrophe..(please donate to MRC)
No offense . . .
Submitted by Clemenza on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:57pm.
But why is NBC soliciting teh opinion of a left wing ditch liquor who will never become pregnant. Hell, the closest facsimile she has ever had to a man was made out of polyvinyl chloride. Waht's next, Ed Schultz on sobriety??
Uhhhh,
Submitted by almostacowboy on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 2:00pm.
I think many "men" are made of silicone rubber, too. :-)
So where is 'separation of church and state' here?
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:00pm.
Maddow fretted that "millions" of women would have to pay for contraceptives "out-of-pocket" if the government did not force religious institutions to pay for the them.
...maybe the ACLU could be called in to help the Catholics?
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Good morning vrwc
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:06pm.
As we used to say, "If you can't afford a rubber you shouldn't be rubbing her".
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
'cuse me, but a lesbian commentating on human reproduction...
Submitted by vrwc13 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:42pm.
...bit of an oxymoron?
v
The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne
Freedom?
Submitted by feisty on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:59pm.
We can get very politically correct if someone in a burka gets uppity around the holidays or they want to build a mosque on Ground Zero, and we run to protect their religious freedom, or when someone refuses to stand or recite the Pledge based on religion -- it's all OK. So what's the difference between those examples and gov't forcing policies that mandate Catholics cannot be Catholic?
Abortion is the most
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:02pm.
Abortion is the most evil and racist practice ever allowed in this country. Black folks should read the historical intentions of those promoting abortion - the genocide of blacks in america. The lemmings are dragging us over the cliff with them.
May God have mercy on us.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
You are absolutely right...
Submitted by parnold45 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:32pm.
The number of African American babies aborted each week is roughly 1,500 babies. That's a week!! These figures should astound you. Does anyone honestly believe that this number exists because birth control is too expensive or too difficult to obtain? This controversy is happening despite the assurance by the Obama administration during all of the health care debates that no such controversy exists. This administration is just one long tired joke.
Having Maddow on to talk
Submitted by Soldat44 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:00pm.
Having Maddow on to talk about this HHS Mandate is like having a butcher on to talk about the abuse of cattle.
hmmm
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:03pm.
Ever wonder why libbies love abortion so much?
Ever wonder why someone like Maddow loves abortion so much?
What does she know?
Submitted by greydawg on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:12pm.
Considering how Maddow has said she does it, why should this pervert have any concern about contraception?
No liberal will understand
Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:17pm.
No liberal will understand the concept of the god side of the Constitution. Their god is Obama and the Democrats. all compressed into their imagination as intellectual superiority.
"all of the republican candidates...
Submitted by DumbCanuck on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:17pm.
...have taken pretty far-right perspective..."
...says a far-left loon.
I guess if you're as far-left, over-the-cliff, looney-tune lefty like Maddow, I guess even Owe-bummer could seem to be far-right.
This isn't about use. It's about the government telling organizations what services they must provide.
This is about framing the issue as a "women's health care" issue when that's not even close to being the truth.
It's about how liberals lie, and lie, and lie repeatedly, desparately hoping that what they say will eventually become accepted as truth. We fell for it too many times. The time is now to stand and push back. PUSH BACK and expose their ideology for what it really is.
To quote Captain Picard in 'First Contact': "The line must be drawn here! This far, and no further!"
"There... Are... Four... Lights!"
Larger issue
Submitted by GW on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 1:45pm.
"I see this as large – part of a larger issue on contraception."
No, the larger issue here is religious freedom. The government forcing the Catholic Church to pay for someone's birth control is like me making my Jewish friends pay for my BBQ sandwich.
Biased Leftists, Backslapping each other
Submitted by ChrisNH on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 2:59pm.
Today's Leftist media comprises a bunch of leftists who simply backslap each other while feigning to cover an issue objectively.
And they wonder why newspapers, weekly magazines, and network news outfits are all failing to draw readers/viewers and requisite advertisers.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 3:46pm.
Other than the fact that liberals consider pregnancy to be a disease, what has contraception have to do with health care anyway?
As I have often said...
Submitted by JLin on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 5:14pm.
Leftists view abortion as contraception. Abortion is elective surgery. Does that mean government will pay for tummy tucks now?
This is beyond theater of the absurd.
Submitted by JLin on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 5:12pm.
This is like revolutionary France on LSD.
Why would a lesbian need birth control?
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 5:51pm.
Planned Parenthood is as useful to her as a buggy whip manufacturer to Maserati.
Why Maddow?
Submitted by jimrunner on Wed, 02/08/2012 - 10:39am.
Why would Maddow be concerned with contraception? Her sexual preference absolutely precludes any possibility of pregnancy!