NBC's Brian Williams Gushes Over 1950s 'Wholesomeness' of Obama Family
In an interview with President Obama's outgoing assistant Reggie Love on NBC's Rock Center Monday night, host Brian Williams fawned over the First Family: "...like a retro almost 1950s American family, that there's a – kind of a wholesomeness about them. They play board games, they play on the floor of the living room with the dog, they're not – the girls aren't allowed a lot of TV and social media." [Audio available here]
Williams opened the interview with Love by touting how the presidential body man, "famously carried the President's Sharpies and Altoids and chap stick and cell phone and children on occasion. And along the way, the two men became very close. The President has referred to Reggie as the little brother he never had." Moments later, Williams wondered: "What is it about the President and his family that you wish all Americans could see?" [View video after the jump]
In response, Love sounded like a Obama campaign ad: "I think the thing that isn't caught by all the American people, which I wish everyone could see, is that not only is he committed to, you know, being a father and being a leader every minute of the day, he never – he doesn't stop thinking about it."
Here is a full transcript of the November 28 interview:
10:48PM ET
BRIAN WILLIAMS: If you've been paying any attention at all to the President these three years, then you've seen the guy right behind him. Often mistaken for a Secret Service agent, he is Reggie Love, the body man. And that means Sherpa, confidant, portable desk, and a better than average basketball player.
BARACK OBAMA: When he's on my team, I say to Reggie, "Don't shoot."
WILLIAMS: Reggie Love played at Duke under Coach K, which may have instilled the discipline he's needed all these years at the President's side. He'll need it again now as he seeks an MBA at the Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania. Every president in the modern era has had a body man. The official title, Special Assistant to the President. Unofficially they do everything. When the President wasn't on the move somewhere, Reggie sat right outside the Oval Office and he saw it all and heard it all.
OBAMA: There are times where I'm not so calm. Reggie Love knows. My wife knows.
WILLIAMS: He famously carried the President's Sharpies and Altoids and chap stick and cell phone and children on occasion. And along the way, the two men became very close. The President has referred to Reggie as the little brother he never had. Reggie Love here with us in the studio. What are you possibly going to do to fill your time after what you're used to now, and the pace of life?
REGGIE LOVE: I don't think anything can possibly fill the void that will be left by me leaving the White House. I do think that there's still a lot of things that I haven't been able to do just because I've been so committed to the job and to the campaign. I missed a lot of Thanksgivings, a lot of Christmases. So hopefully I'll get a chance to spend more time with my family. More time with the girlfriend. And hopefully, you know, get to enjoy life a bit.
WILLIAMS: You're a very discreet person anyway. And if you're going to do this job, I've known several of the body men over the years. They sign on, I mean, it's expected you will be discreet. But broadly, what is it about the President and his family that you wish all Americans could see?
LOVE: I think the thing that isn't caught by all the American people, which I wish everyone could see, is that not only is he committed to, you know, being a father and being a leader every minute of the day, he never – he doesn't stop thinking about it.
WILLIAMS: Someone once told me the First Family is like a retro almost 1950s American family, that there's a – kind of a wholesomeness about them. They play board games, they play on the floor of the living room with the dog, they're not – the girls aren't allowed a lot of TV and social media.
LOVE: No TV during the week. I don't know how they do it. But, you know, I think – I wasn't born during the 1950s. My family and my parents were very similar to what President Obama and what Mrs. Obama are for the girls. They're there for the kids but they also work extremely hard. And they somehow manage to sort of put it all together.
WILLIAMS: Let's talk about rope lines. They're a harrowing kind of thing. There are people clamoring for the president, there's media, there's Secret Service, there's guys with guns to your right and left. And yet, there's also, if you look closely, this ballet. People give the president things from babies to books to mementos. And the stuff he can keep he quietly hands back to you. What happens to all that stuff?
LOVE: Well, it is a lot of stuff, and you're right, sometimes they're babies and sometimes they're kids that, you know, they're handing off that aren't babies that shouldn't be handed off. And you know, sometimes they're notes or they're gifts. And typically, you know, I make a log, a note of everything. And if it's a letter from a constituent, we make sure that, you know, he gets a chance to look at it or read it. And then make sure that they get a response written. Or if it's a gift, you know, it gets filed and registered and screened and processed. And then it ends up in its appropriate place. And it is like a dance a little bit, you know. You see all the agents, and you know, everyone sort of stepping with the appropriate foot, not trying to step on each other.
WILLIAMS: Did everyone just assume – am I correct in assuming everybody thought you were a Secret Service agent, who didn't know you?
LOVE: For the first – I mean, I think even now people still think that I'm Secret Service. I like to believe it's because of my stature, right?
WILLIAMS: Yes, and your demeanor, the way you carry yourself.
LOVE: But it never bothered me. I think it's good for people to think that, you know, that the President or when he was – or while he was campaigning, that he had someone sort of watching out for him.
WILLIAMS: Finally, finish this sentence for me. The amazing thing about seeing presidents up close is?
LOVE: I would say the most amazing thing is, to see their candor, to see that they're real people. They have emotions, they have feelings. They go through similar things that you go through, that your parents went through. But I think it's also amazing that they're able to handle a lot of that stuff under the pressures of, you know, intense media scrutiny. And it's a fine balance.
WILLIAMS: Well, you've gotten that balance right, according to all reports. Reggie Love, it's great to see you again.
LOVE: Thank you, I appreciate you having me here today.
WILLIAMS: Good luck as a young man entering the second half of your life.
LOVE: Oh, man, Hopefully I get more than half, I'm only 29, so.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, you'll be all right, something tells me you'll be all right.
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At least Bri-Bri is
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:17pm.
At least Bri-Bri is consistent - he ALWAYS has his official Boy Barry knee-pads on. And I'd like to know the REAL reason why Reggie LUUUUUUUUUUVVVVVVVVVV is leaving such a good job - to study in business school???
Of course it is, Killa
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:41pm.
I mean, a guy with a stellar resume as a "body man" is going to Wharton, because he's so brilliant.
Now go look up "down-low". Furthermore, "Reggie Love & (Anderson Cooper's favorite word)".
The intertubes are grand.
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Retching
Submitted by Emrys on Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:49am.
Can I vomit now? blech!
"Blondieeeee!" Yup, that Obama is a real Dagwood all right.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:21pm.
(Oops, I mean "Wookieeeee!")
Does nothing but play golf and F-up everything he touches. He does make a helluva sammich, though.
Thats friggin funny!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:57pm.
Only Dagwood worked hard, at a regular job, tried his best under a demanding boss, and had a hot wife-three things O'Bozo doesnt have! But I bet he wakes up early in the morning to avoid the last minute rush and running into the mailman! BTW-in what neighborhood does the mail come at like 8AM? Im lucky if they come at all, but then again, who needs the USPS nowadays?
Oh puhleeze...Leave it to Obama? Ear Leader Knows Best?
Submitted by drsamherman on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:23pm.
Leave it to Narcissist? My Moo(chelle) the Parasite?
Yes, every family in the 1950s used government money to take elaborate, expensive vacations when economic times were difficult and every president in the 1950s could not survive without a boot-licking media praising every action they took from yawning to defecation. Sure--and there's a bridge in New York just waiting for your down-payment.
But I thought the msm has said
Submitted by Kansasgirl on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:23pm.
there wasn't a "wholesome" 1950's, it was all a fallacy.
O's polling must be tanking. Hehe.
Just me
Submitted by KornKing on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:24pm.
I guess what I'd like to see is their asses on the way out of the White House
Williams: "Someone once told
Submitted by rwnewsnut on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:26pm.
Williams: "Someone once told me the First Family is like a retro almost 1950s American family, that there's a – kind of a wholesomeness about them."
Ah yes - when it's a liberal waxing nostalgic for the 50s it's wholesomeness, unicorns, and puppies. Don't they call conservatives who long for the 50s racists?
They always have it both ways, don't they?
Liberals are hypocrites.
Gawd! This is too much, even for Williams.
Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:31pm.
Right beside "sycophant" in the dictionary is a picture of Brian Williams. His picture is beside a few other words as well, but they are usually scribbled on bathroom stalls.
Regarding Brian, a poem from my youth comes to mind:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:43pm.
People who write on sh*thouse walls
roll their sh*t into tiny balls
people who read those words of wit
eat those tiny balls of sh*t
Brian is a good eater.
To Brian Williams---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 8:37pm.
The sh*thouse poet, when he dies,
Should have erected, to the skies,
A monument to his sordid wit,
A statue built of solid sh*t.
Arse kisser supreme, that one.
MD
I've done out-house time, Spring thaw brings on the munchies.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:04pm.
Ohh look! dat haole one, gettin away.
You Didn't Build That.
Mrs. O'bama
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:32pm.
That is the first time I ever heard that phrase.
That's what the 50's were all about, yea riiiight.
You Didn't Build That.
NBC/DNC
Submitted by Kleenex on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:33pm.
This is the same "objective journalist" who bowed to Obama in the white house. NBC has so much already invested in Obama they have no choice but to keep walking the plank. I expect much more biased and ignorant statements from Williams next year when things really get rolling. He'll need to wipe his chin.
Barrack and Michelle
Submitted by CarlosS on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:36pm.
Just like Ozzie and Harriet, and just like Ozzie, Barrack never goes to work, he just hangs around!
Carlos,
Submitted by ray johnson on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:53pm.
that's 110% dead on. Just ask Gov. Awesome.
And hung around the neighborhood,,
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:59pm.
Only Ozzie SOLVED problems-O'Bozo CAUSES them, and blames others!
Plus, the had their son
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:09pm.
Plus, the had their son Rickety playing and singing his early rock'n'roll hits to support the rest of the family. I used to watch the ending of every show so that I could hear the band - James Burton in particular, who is one of the legendary founding fathers of rock'n'roll guitar!!!
I guess I will have to watch
Submitted by Antisocial-ism on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:41pm.
I guess I will have to watch old re-runs of Leave It To Beaver to find the episode where they went on a 200 million dollar vacation to Spain on the taxpayers dime.
Has anyone here seen that one?
Last I heard, Ward was
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:10pm.
Last I heard, Ward was upstairs beating the Beaver!!!
No
Submitted by grammajane on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:41pm.
Williams, obama does not represent the 50's. I was brought up during that time and nothing he represents, resembles that era. Our preachers spoke of God and love of America, we respected the military, we did not hang out with terrorists, we knew how many states there were, we took care of special need kids, we respected the cops, and we were taught not to lie. So, williams, your slobbering represents what is going on today and has zero to do with the 50's Amen!!!
AND
Submitted by KornKing on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:58pm.
No one had to refer to the "lapdog media" as most were able to report what was happening rather than spew propaganda.
I too was brought up in the
Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:11pm.
I too was brought up in the 50's and nothing Obama does resembles that era.
When
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 6:50pm.
will this slobbering love affair end? Because I don't think I can take much more of this as our country moves closer and closer into third war territory and he divides our country between class and racial lines.
NBC's Newsmofos...
Submitted by ray johnson on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:00pm.
have been instructed to follow the Chrissy Matthews ( GE and Immelt) policy of doing whatever they can to make Obamao's presidency a success. One big way - most agree - is to have a successful reelection effort. Forget the media bias thing, because it ain't gonna change, and the dummies that watch get what they deserve.
obama's rock
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:05pm.
With obama's approval now lower than what Carters was obama only has the firm support of 80% of the Blacks and 99% of the Old Media.
Brian Williams is a joke
Submitted by harrmatees on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:13pm.
If you look closely you can see a piece of corn on Williams forehead
that he forgot to wipe off after crawling out of Obama's keister to do
the story. How can anybody believe anything this guy says?
I hope they never forget.........
Submitted by Herbster on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:24pm.
I hope the current occupants of the white house remember, as they "Play board games on the floor," that they are living in public housing.
My neighbors and I are chipping in to get Williams some new kneepads - the old ones must be worn out by now. Whar a toady!
→ Father Knows Best
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:31pm.
Can't you just see Robert Young sitting Kathy on his lap and saying "Kitten, I don't want you punished with a baby, so I'm going to make sure you can get an abortion anytime you want it, even if I don't hear about until after you've died of sepsis".
Yeah, those days are back again.
What? Ward Cleaver had a string of gay lovers?
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:43pm.
Wow, who knew?
Brian Williams is an idiot.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
C'mon Dave,
Submitted by UpNorth on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:14pm.
We all know that when Ward wasn't on Leave it to Beaver, he was off in the Caribbean, visiting Vera Baker.
Ward's neighbor bought her a get-away place on Martinique, and he'd stop by from time to time. When he wasn't hanging out in Man's Country.
Dave, check my post further
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:12pm.
Dave, check my post further up to find out what Ward was really doing.
killa,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 11:10pm.
LOL - I saw that.
It really needed a spew alert.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
The wholesomeness of the Obama family
Submitted by cocodrie on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 7:50pm.
The wholesomeness of the worst family does remind me of the 1950s. Caril Fugate and Charles Starkweather in particular come to mind.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
Ya'know, coco...........their
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:15pm.
Ya'know, coco...........their daugters aside (because I know the inherent innocence of children), the word 'wholesome' is NOT a definition that I could have EVER attributed to Boy Blunder and Mooooooooooooooochelle.............and you'd probably have to go WAY BACK into their own lives to try and make it fit!!!
Now - Barney Frank is a good example of someone who is 'holesome'!!!!
Sorry
Submitted by Bobby 89 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 8:24pm.
I see nothing wrong with this picture. Family is extremely important to us on the conservative side. The sad part is that his is not a typical family that represents those that support the president.
Bobby
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 8:33pm.
The problem isn't the family, it's the media love fest that they have with anything Obama. Why is it that they feel the need to elevate every single thing the man does, while ignoring his obvious failures? It is not the job of the media to support politicians, but that is exactly what they do with Obama, and what is objected to here.
Here, Brian. Something to read to start your "newscasts".
Submitted by Unsane on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 8:50pm.
The Holy Shahinshah's, President Wonderful's, the Lightworker's, The One's - mmmm, mmmm, mmmm - keen eye is the astrolabe of the substantive sun - His truth-discerning heart is the celestial observatory of Attributes - He is of noble lineage, of joyous countenance - of the model, most loving marriage - of right disposition - of open brow - of well-proportioned frame - of magnanimous nature - the honey-tongued teacher of the English language - of lofty genius - the inciter of thrills and tingles - of pure purpose - of enduring faith - of perfect wisdom - emitter of the most fragrant, sweetest flatulence - begirt with varied talents - wizard of all things to all people - of wide capacity -the master of warm healing - of high honor - of the most masterful, soaring oratory - of splendid courage - of his cute, boyish, wonderful smile - He who becomes Death, the destroyer of flies - with the unimpeachable reputation for integrity - of superhuman blood pressure - - of the most wholesome family - of the greatest political savvy - of right judgment - of choice counsel - of networked genome - of generosity unfeigned - the emblem of the American people - of perfectly creased pants - astonishingly ambitious, brave - of boundless forgiveness, abundant in graciousness - the most careful thinker - at peace with all-compendium of dominion - lucid, impeccably centered - the world-historical soul - of elegance unmatched by mere mortals - true American royalty - our own personal Jesus - of plenteous sincerity - multiple of single-minded warriors - of chiseled pecs - abounding in wealth - accumulator of the world's rarities - sophisticated - of pure heart - unspotted by the world - leader of the spiritual realm - elegant, articulate, Zen-like - of enduring alertness! How has He been gathered together into one place? Or how doth a single body upbear Him on the shoulders of genius?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
if obama is defeated...
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:10pm.
....we will never know if obama really could walk on water. The media has never let his feet touch the ground.
Wholesome Obama- look up " Man's Country" club Chicago
Submitted by reddog339 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:14pm.
OBama, "Man's Country" gay club Chicago-- lifetime membership for barack--- Brian Williams here's the whole some Obama and then you can figure out why he and Reggie Love are so close.
There is very little truth to the rumor
Submitted by bkeyser on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:37pm.
that Obama frequently dresses as a gay sheriff's deputy. Or that he finds soccer more erotic than basketball. I also don't believe the emo, gay pop star envy claims, or that he and his staff were frequent guests during Human Rights Campaign's Full Monty Night.
Frankly, it's not nice to make outrageous claims about one's sexual cred without at least a few photos as evidence.
bk---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:47pm.
Hysterical !!
And not likely hype, either.
MD
I'm telling ya,
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:17pm.
I'm telling ya, Keyser............you might have hit the 'big time'............but you're STILL a sick man and you STILL need help!!!
BK, You are the Roger the Shrubber, of the visible realm.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:43pm.
I have tried to find your wonderful moon bat hatching, that rare on site photo , with the Ugliest dog tagging along, no luck.. :-(
You Didn't Build That.
Ruuuuun, BK!
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:48pm.
The black helicopters just lifted off from Andrews.
Your name was the biggest hit today on AttackWatch.
Burn the hard drive!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I believe the Obama's "marriage" is a 110% total sham
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:39pm.
...just like Billy Jeff and Broom Hilda's was - and for the same reasons.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Well, not just like Bill and Hill's
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 9:50pm.
billy likes girls.
And you consider Nurse
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:19pm.
And you consider Nurse Ratchett, the motel lounge singer, the aardvark, and the tubby young piglet to be 'girls'????? At least Kennedy had a little 'taste' in women!!!
Google is your friend, Dave
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:48pm.
"down-low".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
J,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:59pm.
LOL - Yeah, been there and seen that.
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
What about his REAL brother,,
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:05pm.
Who lives in poverty in East Bunblef^ck, Africa-why doesnt he help him? Or treat HIM like a "Brother"? Just another FOS liberal!
→ Or his other brother?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:14pm.
Obama's brother, the sex criminal?
Wow, it's a good thing that
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:21pm.
Wow, it's a good thing that Barry's real name wasn't Samson............although he do pretty good as Delilah!!!
racist viewpoint?
Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:10pm.
WILLIAMS: Someone once told me the First Family is like a retro almost 1950s American family, that there's a – kind of a wholesomeness about them. They play board games, they play on the floor of the living room with the dog, they're not – the girls aren't allowed a lot of TV and social media.
Is Williams comparing the obama's to a typical White family during the fifties?
Brian Williams is the poster boy for...
Submitted by Bill Brasky on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:23pm.
... surprise... bed wetting, liberal bias "journalism". He is a punk, a poofter, and a pvssy. That is all.
I'm surprised NBC missed the USA Weekend Cover
Submitted by gopcongress on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:31pm.
I got the USA Weekend cover from last Sunday (Nov. 27). Unfortunately, I don't have a flatbed scanner, so when i tried to scan it with my all-purpose thingee I scrunched up the paper. I took a cam shot of the cover. Briefly, this cover bastardizes the Norman Rockwell iconic Thanksgiving family picture with that of the Obama clan. The only improvement over the original was the dog.
USA Weekend Cover
Iconic Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving portrait (Titled "Freedom from Want")
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You mean NOW the 50s are okay?
Submitted by CO2Maker on Tue, 11/29/2011 - 10:40pm.
Golly gee, what happened? I thought the 50s were full of oppressive, sexist materialism hidden behind a thin patina of sappy-happy sit-com families in which the very white dad in his coat and tie and the very white mom in her fun sun-dress and apron happily cooked up dinner for their very white kids, who said "golly, Mom" and "gee, Dad" as they trundled off to do their homework.
I mean, c'mon, we know that the 50s were a time of anguish, subterranean forces of inequity, oppression, and despair. No "Leave It to Beaver" bullshit. More like "Revolutionary Road" darkness and feral fear.
I really hate it when the news reporters forget where the truth is and feed us feel-good gushy mush about the evil 50s.
Nomesayin'?
Why couldnt this great
Submitted by Okieflyover on Wed, 11/30/2011 - 1:04am.
Family fly together Martha's Vineyard ???
I don't see the closeness in this couple that others do.
Until the Great Society It Was Just Families Then it Was Nuclear
Submitted by Avitar on Wed, 11/30/2011 - 1:52am.
Families are not these silly conglomeration of individuals that are refered to as "disfunctional families."
A 1950's family. Like Nikita
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 11/30/2011 - 7:18am.
A 1950's family. Like Nikita Khrushchev?
ChickaBOOMer: American Airlines Slogan 'Be Yourself. Nonstop.'
Submitted by StewartIII on Wed, 11/30/2011 - 11:48am.
American Airlines Slogan 'Be Yourself. Nonstop.' Averts Brian Williams On-Air Crash.
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2011/11/american-airlines-slogan-be-you...
Good article Kyle !!
Submitted by sbourg on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 10:40am.
Thanks for posting the Brian Wms puff-piece/infomercial that the major media seems to be perfect at. The questions by Brian Wms are perfectly designed to elicit warm-feeling responses and make Chairman Obamao look so wholesome and caring. I always wonder if Wms, or Couric, or Schieffer, etc.....write alot of the questions themselves.
Particulary interesting was Wms' closing comment : "Good luck Reggie on the 2nd half of your life".
Reggie Love is only 29.
BWms is a total and complete idiot -- but he's a useful idiot: Handsome, perfect voice and a Leftist economic-illiterate. I wonder how Leftist his 'boss' is at NBC ? Extremely, I'm sure.