Seriously? MSNBC Brings On Ray Nagin to Discuss Hurricane Preparedness
Update (17:48 EDT): Nagin was also interviewed on today's "Hardball," which was guest-hosted by Chris Jansing.
Teasing his Friday 3 p.m. ET hour show on MSNBC, anchor Martin Bashir proclaimed that he would have a special guest on to discuss incoming Hurricane Irene: "Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin joins us to explain what leaders must do to avoid the mistakes that were made six years ago." [Audio available here]
Bashir was "delighted" to have Nagin on the program and began by asking about the response of political leaders to the storm: "Is it your view, sir, that they are handling preparations for this hurricane in the best way possible?" Bashir followed up by wondering: "...with the benefit of your experience, what are the critical actions that you think need to be taken to ensure that Hurricane Irene, or any other act of mother nature, does not become Katrina, Part II?"
Thanks to Scott Whitlock for providing video after the jump
In response, Nagin lent his "experience" to others: "I wrote a book recently...and I lay out specifically what we did. I think the most critical things are right before the storm hits, to make sure that the public understands the severity, and they start to evacuate in an orderly fashion." During the segment, an image appeared on screen of the city school buses then-Mayor Nagin allowed to be flooded instead of being used for evacuations.
Bashir did eventually ask Nagin about criticism of his response to Katrina: "You, yourself, were accused of being too late in ordering that mandatory evacuation. In retrospect, and given, you know, you knew all about the circumstances in which people were living in New Orleans, do you accept that just as FEMA underperformed, you also had some failings?"
Nagin acknowledged: "Well, I would tell you this, Martin, it was a historic catastrophic event and clearly I could have done things better." But then added: "...the leader has one responsibility, but also the citizen has a responsibility to heed the warnings and act appropriately."
Here is a full transcript of the August 26 segment:
2:46PM ET TEASE:
MARTIN BASHIR: I'm Martin Bashir, coming up at the top of the hour, the latest on Hurricane Irene as tens of millions of Americans get ready to hunker down for a weekend of dangerous weather. Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin joins us to explain what leaders must do to avoid the mistakes that were made six years ago.
3:06PM ET SEGMENT:
BASHIR: It is almost six years since Hurricane Katrina wrought devastation on Louisiana, killing more than 1,800 people throughout the Gulf coast. It was a biblical catastrophe, punishing ordinary members of the public, but also exposing the region's poverty, long-standing corruption, and political ineptitude. And even when federal help did arrive, it was late and poorly coordinated.
President Bush was roundly criticized when the White House released this infamous photo of him surveying the damage from Air Force One. And when the President did eventually set foot on the ground, things only got worse as he told then-FEMA Director Michael Brown he was doing, quote, 'A heck of a job.' Within weeks, Mr. Brown was forced to resign. Another man at the very epicenter of those events was the mayor of New Orleans, Ray Nagin. Mr. Nagin has just published a book about those events, entitled, 'Katrina's Secrets.' And I'm delighted to welcome him to our broadcast this afternoon. Good afternoon, sir.
RAY NAGIN: Good afternoon, Martin. How are you?
BASHIR: Very well. You've heard Janet Napolitano, you've heard the President speaking today, you've heard mayors, governors, everybody. Is it your view, sir, that they are handling preparations for this hurricane in the best way possible?
NAGIN: You know, Martin, I think they're doing an excellent job of alerting the public, which is one of the main things you need to do. One of the problems they're having in the east coast is that they haven't experienced a storm like this in so long, so there are going to be many people who may not heed the warnings or may move to late to try and evacuate and that's when the drama will unfold.
BASHIR: Mr. Nagin to look back now for a moment at Hurricane Katrina, it was not only devastating for the people there, it also proved damaging for many of our elected officials, so with the benefit of your experience, what are the critical actions that you think need to be taken to ensure that Hurricane Irene, or any other act of mother nature, does not become Katrina, Part II?
NAGIN: Well, you know, Martin, I wrote a book recently released on Create Space, a division of Amazon, and I lay out specifically what we did. I think the most critical things are right before the storm hits, to make sure that the public understands the severity, and they start to evacuate in an orderly fashion. The worst thing that could happen is everyone to hit the interstates at the same time.
The thing that I really like that's happening right now on the east coast is that they're taking care of the senior citizens, they're taking care of the special needs, the medical patients first. And I think all of that is going to help to minimize the number of people that remain in harms way, because right before the storm is one thing, but after the storm hits, that's when the real action starts.
BASHIR: In your case, sir, nobody appeared to escape without criticism and you, yourself, were accused of being too late in ordering that mandatory evacuation. In retrospect, and given, you know, you knew all about the circumstances in which people were living in New Orleans, do you accept that just as FEMA underperformed, you also had some failings?
NAGIN: Well, I would tell you this, Martin, it was a historic catastrophic event and clearly I could have done things better.
BASHIR: You really believe that, sir?
NAGIN: Oh, absolutely. When I – now that I've had a chance to really go back and take a look, there are a number of things that I think that I could have done better. But in an evacuation situation where a catastrophic storm is approaching, the leader has one responsibility, but also the citizen has a responsibility to heed the warnings and act appropriately.
BASHIR: And finally, and briefly, sir, you've been quoted in USA Today saying that the city of New Orleans is better because of Katrina. How so?
NAGIN: Well, we've gone through quite a bit of pain and struggles, but we're rebuilding everything, the school system, our infrastructure. We've got young, better-educated people moving into the city, and where we used to concentrate poverty in our public housing projects, we now have mixed income communities. So we have gone through a lot of pain, but we are getting better.
BASHIR: Former Mayor of New Orleans Ray Nagin. I've read your book and it's an excellent read. Thank you for joining us.
NAGIN: Thank you, Martin, I appreciate that.
BASHIR: Thank you.
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What an idiot!
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:21pm.
Ray Nagin: Proof that liberals not only embrace, but elevate, failure.
pretty simple
Submitted by Patrick_in_AZ on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:43pm.
"Former New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin joins us to explain what leaders must do to avoid the mistakes that were made six years ago."
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Seems pretty simple: do the exact opposite of everything Nagin did.
Duhhh
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:21pm.
Duhhh
OMG!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:23pm.
They really went and did this??
Uh, gee, so did he show that his idea of preparedness is to ignore the plans that they had in the books(which included the use of those school busses) and make it up as they go along?
Because that's what he really did.
And that bit where he said if he could go back, he would do things differently, well, yeah, for starters, READ THE EMERGENCY PLANS, YA FREAKING MORON!!! They were laid out for precisely that situation that happened!
-Jon
The headline should have had a "spew alert"
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:23pm.
You really can't make this stuff up.
too funny
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:26pm.
nagin definitely knows how to float a bus!!!!
Can you imagine if a conservative had said
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:28pm.
NO was better off because of Katrina? How about you did the job right Nagin and you were better off because of that?
After Katrina, people who
Submitted by danbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:10pm.
After Katrina, people who weren't willing to take part in rebuilding stayed in Houston, Atlanta etc. They waited for someone else to rebuild before they started coming back. A city with one of the worst murder rates before Katrina, went a long time without a murder .
If it was better. It wasn't because of Ray.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
I have often said that a
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:55pm.
I have often said that a hurricane would do wonders for Myrtle Beach, SC. Irene missed them so it was no help
That idiot Kathleen Blanco wasn't available?
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:37pm.
There's enough empty space between her ears that she could make bank on it renting it as warehouse space.
It's kind of like Special Ed....
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:37pm.
I still can't believe he has self-styled his little rants "Psycho Talk".
Ray Nagin on hurricane preparedness reminds me of that horrid reality show "What Not to Wear".
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
the chocolate mayor speaking
Submitted by gr29az on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:41pm.
the chocolate mayor speaking out on hurricanes?
come on man. school buses maybe!
THIS IS BEYOND. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:43pm.
. . .ALL COMPREHENSION!!!
Shameless plug for his book
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:45pm.
NAGIN: Well, you know, Martin, I wrote a book recently released on Create Space, a division of Amazon, and I lay out specifically what we did.
When you get to the Amazon site, search FICTION, then DISASTER, then INCOMPETENT.
Seriously, why would anyone listen to these buffoon about hurricane preparedness.
duhhh!!
Submitted by milootoole on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:47pm.
As soon as you hear that a hurricanse gonna hit-- youse tell your citizens to climb up on the roof. They dint do that the las time. So then they gotta walk through the crappy water to get to the superdom. Also-- lif jackits.
Stay Tuned... After the
Submitted by Restless Legs on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:56pm.
Stay Tuned...
After the break, we'll be talking with Barack Obama about strategies for avoiding debt.
Blame Bush
Submitted by Tjexcite on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:52pm.
That is the only reason. To blame Bush and do it in many different ways. He used his weather machine to create Katrina and directed to NO with one hour warning. so that is why the busses where under water not full of people 100 miles away.
I laughed out loud at the headline and I am not the type
Submitted by Lipton on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:55pm.
to do that.
Nagin on Hurricane Preparedness...
Submitted by ThePickle on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:57pm.
Nagin on Hurricane Preparedness is kinda like having Teddy Kennedy do a show on Sobriety and the proper response to Auto Accidents.
Surreal.
Classic
Submitted by sergeant stogie on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:57pm.
The NOLA disaster was a perfect illustration of what happens when you have a population that is either incapable and/or unwilling to think for themselves, and leadership (using the term very loosely) such as the Nagin administration that is incapable and/or unwilling to provide it. They all sat around until they finally figured out "Hey, there's a lot of water here", then fled to the Superdome and proceeded to turn that into a model of the neighborhoods they had left. And all because of that racist GWB!
Shortly after the Katrina disaster
Submitted by packman on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:58am.
Rush Limbaugh pointed out that New Orleans & Louisiana in general had about 60 years of liberal government leadership in place before Katrina hit. In all that time, there were essentially no plans for dealing with such a disaster, even though NOLA is in the hurricane alley of the Gulf Coast and the city of New Orleans itself is....uhh....mostly below sea level!
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Nagin - Blanco. Crimes against humanity should have been filed.
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 4:59pm.
Two (out of so many) critical criminal acts by these two:
Nagin -- Emergency shelters (of last resort) were not stockpiled with food, water, medical supplies and emergency personnel.
Blanco -- Her State of LA Homeland Security Department ordered the Red Cross (FEMA's first line of humanitarian support) not to enter the City of Louisiana that first week.
Blanco controlled the ground - all that suffering we saw at the Superdome and at the Convention Center during that first week was caused by Blanco and Nagin.
Bush erred by not sensing how they has so screwed up, and not going on national TV and telling it like it was - and then by not sending in federal troops outside of the constitution. Should have just done it - when you're dealing with dangerous incompetent fools.
(;`/ gary
You may have different
Submitted by danbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:57pm.
You may have different memories. When the Dome was used as a shelter for George. It was trashed.
The state then decided not to use the dome as a shelter. Partially I think because of the experiences during George. But also if the levees broke everyone knew people in the dome would be trapped. They also knew people would go there rather than evacuate if they could. The plan was to force people to leave. Then at the last moment NO and the state changed there minds. As I was evacuating, I remember the news advising people to bring food etc as it was not a shelter, just a high point above the water if the levee broke.
We first came in the cross hairs late friday. I don't recall Nagin calling for a mandatory evacuation till Sunday morning. The winds were starting to pick up as I drove out Sunday noon. Having spent Saturday in preparation.
As fate would have it, after the storm, I spend the better part of 2 days along I-10 in Mississippi close to the state line. I saw the convoys go by. I'm a witness. And from what I heard on WWL they were being stopped in either Gonzales or Plaqemine.
I agree. Bush's fault was not realizing how screwed up Orleans and the state of Louisiana were. I agree the two biggest failures were Nagin and Blanco.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
danbo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:18pm.
What convoy are you talking about and who stopped them?
Thanks.
There were all kinds of
Submitted by danbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:17pm.
There were all kinds of convoys. Heading west toward New Orleans. Convoys of semis with escorts. Convoys of power utility trucks. Military trucks. Generators etc. I had no gas. I was in line for gas for almost 2 days. A mile+ long line. Overlooking I-10. We're almost the last exit before crossing the state line. Being at the time I was working in Louisiana. I know they hadn't all stopping in St Tammany Parish. The main goals after. Was Greater New Orleans. Orleans, Jefferson, St Bernard.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
danbo
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:22pm.
Wow. I'm still amazed by the first hand stories people tell.
Danbo --?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:05pm.
I don't know if that is a different recollection?
Read my post carefully again.
The State of LA did not want folks going into NOLA - that's is why they stated they did not want the Red Cross in there. We're speaking of after the storm here!!
Posted on the Red Cross site:
Other than the fact that the City and the State failed in their responsibility to have an efficient emergency evacuation plan in place, and failed in their responsibility to have a properly stockpiled emergency shelter of last resort (George should have taught them lessons - not caused them to shuck all responsibility !!), and other than the fact that Blanco was late in getting her National Guard deployed - and without the proper guidance - and other than the fact that she neglected to request federal military assistance (which had been offered to her), what can I say?
(;~> gary
Your Right Gary
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:20pm.
I10 Fell in the Lake, the Causeway was down, as was Hyw 11 from the East. Baton Rouge and I10 from the West was passable, but clogged. But everyone on I55 (witch was the bulk of the relief) was stopped in Ponchatoula by the State Police for the first 70 or so hours, because I was there.
If your on the East Coast and have to leave, get to know those back roads.
Boudin .. exactly
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:46pm.
My point -- is that the immense suffering which the national MSM focused on, which so outraged the American public - was that which was completely caused by the outrageous failure by Nagin and Blanc.
(;~> gary
Pretty obvious to the folks who were here.
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:50pm.
When the Mayor says something to the effect, that making the citizens ride school busses is humiliating. You know your not having a conversation with someone rooted in reality.
Most of us are pretty chapped at how the rest of the country perceives us now, since the media gave everyone we are completely inept. When in fact, these folks are about as resourceful as they get anymore.
I don't think we disagree.
Submitted by danbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:18pm.
I don't think we disagree. But different people have different memories. Different perspectives. I was working in Louisiana and living in Mississippi.
BTW not just George. But also Dennis. The other cat 5 in 2005 that had us in the cross hairs, then turned to hit Navarre. That was the dry run for everything that went wrong in Katrina.
Blanco had a lot of blame but the national guard may be one of fema's problems. Fema rules. They couldn't set up a center without national guard security. In Mississippi. Our national guard was in Iraq. And rules didn't allow someone to alter the rules. The dems made political hay to fix the problem. And made more rules. Instead of letting people do the obvious. I dred the fix. FEMAs problem is/was a chain of command obsession. (I hoped they fixed it. But doubt they have.)
In 06 I was told FEMA was going to pull the Fema trailers out of NO if another storm threatened. They got angry when I stated. It takes how long to get a trailer, then another month to get it hooked up, and another month to get the key. If you're going to get them out before a hurricane. I'm going to grab a six pack, and a lawn chair. And go watch that parade.
I haven't checked the Red Cross website yet. But I'm curious. I was working for the state of Louisiana. I was told the Red Cross wouldn't open a shelter south of I-12. Does the Red Cross say it was Louisiana? Can't be....
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
Gary Hall, about those shelters ...
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:39pm.
Nagin and Blanco were total screwups.
However, to be honest, about the Superdome thing.
There was to be NO shelter of last resort because EVERYONE was supposed to leave. PERIOD!
That is an undeniable fact.
However, at the last minute, when it became apparant that many thousands of people were not leaving, the Superdome WAS opened and people were instructed they were ON THEIR OWN, and to bring their own essentials - food, water, bedding, etc. to last for at least 3 days as none would be nor could be provided at the last minute.
No one expected the levees to break like they did and it was assumed everything would return to the normal cleanup/restoration that occurs after a hurricane.
I have explained this to people over and over who still think the Superdome was supposed to be a shelter all along. It wasn't.
That said, Nagin and Blanco were absolute disasters in their management and leadership.
What's next....Barack Obama
Submitted by Barack Must Go on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:01pm.
What's next....Barack Obama on how to create jobs?
No that’s Jennifer Granholm’s
Submitted by Reaver on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:26pm.
No that’s Jennifer Granholm’s gig. The ex-governor of Michigan has been a guest on MSNBC multiple times as well as writing a piece for Newsweek, all on job creation. Her record on the topic is comparable to Nagin’s record on disaster preparedness.
Excuse me, that would Jeffery Immelt's gig
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:19pm.
You aren't specifying what country the jobs are to be located in are you?
Jennifer's sole claim to fame.
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:29pm.
"And, in five years, you're going to be blown away". That was her State of the State address in 2005. Little did we know, she really meant it. And, history has proven, not in a good way. And, her record is comparable to Obama's record in job creation, deficit reduction and national security.
Why does Bashir
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:01pm.
always look like he's trying to sneak one out?
I said it before and I'll say it again
Submitted by RD King on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:11pm.
If Bush steered Katrina to NO is the osamaone steering Irene to New York City?
Boy I guess good ole nagin and blank sheet blanco could give the anti- freedom bloomberg and the mussie osamaone some good pointers on how to really screw things up during a big blow.
Confusion and disarray in Nawlin's?
Submitted by CO2Maker on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:25pm.
I guess Nagin pleads ...
wait
wait
NOLA contendere!
And it's a damn good thing this hurricane will hit when Bush is not president, too!
You can't make this stuff up
Submitted by Herbster on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:32pm.
Nagin the expert on preparedness in case of a hurricane hitting New Orleans............
Step 1. Move to a penthouse in a Houston hotel and watch how things turn out.
Step 2. Make sure MSNBC knows you're available to do an "Expert analysis" on preparedness in the future.
So much for Mr. Chocolate City.........BTW, they didn't invite the other genius - Blanco the Magnificent?
Now obambi has a new excuse for the bad economy.....they're already laying the groundwork in the state run media.
Governor Perdue is following Nagin's advice.
Submitted by UpNorth on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:55pm.
If your neighborhood, somewhere in North Carolina is devastated, and looters show up, make sure you don't leave your own property to help your neighbors defend their property. She issued Executive Order #62. No gun rights for you folks there in NC.
According to NC law, you can't "possess or transport any dangerous weapon or substance, off premises"., during a state of emergency.
The city of King NC was sued
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:42pm.
The city of King NC was sued for this several years ago when they did this during a snowstorm. Yes we have an Obama hind tit sucker for a governor. She ain't right bright IMO. .I can see that great bunch of gun lovers here doing the same thing over this. She does not have the right to suspend the state constitution what's less the US Constitution. Blonde may not want me to tell this but she is a grad of U of F.
Blob Beckel
Submitted by AntiMedia on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:43pm.
Thats like bringing on Blob Beckel to talk about dieting.
first response should always begin with..
Submitted by kata on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:48pm.
personal responsibility and preparedness. Yes. But we should still have LOCAL leaders who have a clue. I could give a rats tush that Obama got on the tube and encouraged everyone to "take this storm seriously" (while he himself is apparently digging at the Vineyard for now). After that first 72 hrs my confidence needs to be with the people that know my little burb the best.
"The mayor's mandatory evacuation order was issued 20 hours before the storm struck the Louisiana coast, less than half the time researchers determined would be needed to get everyone out." - Houston Chronicle Thursday, September 8, 2005. I admit I am a bit ashamed I also snorted with a bit of derision when i read the title of this article. But Katrina is pretty much a diagram of everything you should not do in an emergency and if someone doesn't learn from it then its a darn shame.
The media whirling up in
Submitted by TerryWest on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:58pm.
The media whirling up in hysteria and statements of possible historical doom are a category 5 before the hurricane even hits shore.
HLN speeded up footage of the Ocean in order to make it seem more radical, media people safe in their studios are just about hyper ventilating describing a hurricane that hasn't hit yet, . . . .a few in studio are in need of paper sacks in order to make it through this.
Is this an example how we handle an emergency? get the people all scared and in a frenzy?
I pray the hurricane passes with little damage and no deaths but Im not sure the media will see that it did.
The Nagin Doctrine.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 5:56pm.
Set on you ass an wait fo da gummint to come git you.
Den ax fo money and say it Bush's fault, yo!
Maybe they can have Jack Napolitano on to discuss how to be really feminine! They had It on Fox today as I was listening to it on XM, and I was thinking that they really need to cut back on her testosterone shots.
I couldn't determine ....
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:04pm.
... which one was black and which one was arab.
"I think the most critical
Submitted by Dan Diego on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:09pm.
"I think the most critical things are right before the storm hits, to make sure that the public understands the severity, and they start to evacuate in an orderly fashion. The worst thing that could happen is everyone to hit the interstates at the same time."
Right before the storm hits Ray tells everyone to hit the road!!! Not only grid-locked but totally exposed, what a idiot.
LOL - I didn't know Kyle Drennen was writing for the Onion now
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:34pm.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Nagin
Submitted by Rukus on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:51pm.
Dis how it done. Haul ass right afore da storm, find a nice crib ta stay at. Let da folks ride out da storm. Den come back an promise all kinds 'o bennies and get relected. Word!
Oh, and blame Boosh! Dat's portant!
how to avoid the mistakes
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:56pm.
how to avoid the mistakes that were made six years ago.
Even before the storm hits, start screaming that the president isn't doing anything and is obviously a racist!
Oh, wait! Nevermind.
Maybe next time an oil tanker
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 6:58pm.
Maybe next time an oil tanker creates a giant oil spill, they'll get pointers from the captain of the Exxon-Valdez.
oh how enchanting, a
Submitted by jkwtrading on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:21pm.
oh how enchanting, a conversation of one idiot with another idiot.
I am at home right now
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:30pm.
I am at home right now reloading for tonight. I'll be back at work around 9-10. I see so many people sitting on their fat asses doing nothing. They've been to the stores and got all kinds of junk food but I am not seeing real food. When this thing is over they are going to start whining and who will the media cover? You guessed it. People like our families have been getting ready for days. We can hold out for 2, 3 days at the most. You better believe that come tomorrow afternoon the MSM will go looking for those that have sat around and did nothing and report on what a shame it is. Just like they did in New Orleans. Can you recall them ever talking to people that were prepared in the Gulf when Katrina hit?
I'll be back posting updates in the Latest News Forum under Hurricane Irene at about 10. Right now we are getting moderate rain, no wind. Getting read to eat some of the wife's hurricane soup. The only time I get it is during a hurricane.
By the way, the buses at the local high school have been moved to higher ground so we won't be seeing them sitting under water. Not only have the grocery stores in town been doing a brisk business, the ABC store had a crowd for the first time since it was built.
My wife is pissed because the Weather Channel is talking about what is happening in NYC. The sh(* is going to hit the fan here shortly. WNCT Channel 12 has been assigned a national channel on Direct TV. Don't know the channel #. If you can find it you'll see what is going on in my backyard.
Is it that much of a storm or
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:17pm.
Is it that much of a storm or is it yall don't get very many hurricanes.
We've had our share of
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:16pm.
We've had our share of hurricanes in the 15 years I have lived here. There is a lot of hype with this one like most of the others. the local weather reader predicted on Wednesday that the storm would cross between Havelock and Newport. That put us within the eye wall. The NHC never forecast that scenario for landfall. He scared the hell out of people. i think he needs to be fired when this is over for giving his opinion instead of the forecast as put out by the NWS.
This guy says the eyewall has collapsed...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:24pm.
and he appears to some cred, to say the least.
Now of course, I'm waiting for Sam Champion's opinion, too ;)
SOL
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 9:42pm.
Sam's opinion: men = like
women = no interest
Oh, you meant the hurricane. sorry.
That sounds like our local
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:12pm.
That sounds like our local weather reader Skip Waters at WCTI Channel 12 in New Bern. Recon they know each other?
LOL, Rad...
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:52pm.
I predict Mr. Sam will take full advantage of being able to breathlessly report on Armageddon in a tight Yves Saint Laurent T-shirt.
When i got in the truck to
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:10pm.
When i got in the truck to head back to work the weather reader said that the eye had collapsed and the storm dropped to a Cat 1. He later said that the eye had reformed, storm back up to a Cat 2 and was now headed in more of NNE direction. It was due north or 360 degrees. It is now at 15 degrees compass heading. I don't have a TV here so I have to rely on the radio and the internet. The 11 PM update has not come out well because it is not 11 PM yet.
Hard to say Rick
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:35pm.
It has wobbled away, but one thing for sure, you guys just started a 24hr rain storm. Take care
Cat 1's and 2's usually
Submitted by danbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:48pm.
Cat 1's and 2's usually aren't too bad. Though they can be real rain makers. A woman drowned on an elevator during TS Allison. When I was younger I've gone out running in 1's. Don't plan on a picnic. Let's hope the eye did collapse. But keep an eye on it. Sometimes they just look like they're collapsing, but are repositioning. Collapsing and reforming in another location.
"You lie!" Rep. Joe Wilson R-(SC)
Some Others Bashir Might Want to Talk With:
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:27pm.
Kim Sung Ill on Liberty
Code Pink on military preparedness
Ahmadinejad on religious freedom
M. Gaddafi on holding elections
C. Rangel on clean government
N. Pelosi on integrity of the legislation process
B. Obama on Free Market Economics
R. Reagan on Conservatism.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:37pm.
(The former ballet dancer, not the former president.)
To add a few...
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:37pm.
...Jayson Blair on journalist ethics and original research
...Alec Baldwin on proper father:daughter phone etiquette
...Tina Brown and Joan Walsh on political neutrality in reporting
and
...Andrea Mitchell on aging gracefully
And the obvious
Submitted by Dan Diego on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:51pm.
B J Clinton on Fidelity
PopTech explaining how to
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:18pm.
PopTech explaining how to cure Palin Derangement Syndrome . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Today I solved a nagging problem.
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:32pm.
I programmed my TV so that it skips MSNBC. That way, when I surf the TV channels, I don't accidentally view MSNBC even for a split second.
Mama always said
Submitted by fenngibbon on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:32pm.
If you can't be a good example, you just have to be a horrible warning."
Rule
Submitted by Bob K on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:46pm.
number one for personal safety. Never vote Ray Nagin into office.
PMSNBC is just simply "stuck
Submitted by seanrobins on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:48pm.
PMSNBC is just simply "stuck on stupid" if they're looking to this Bozo for hurricane preparedness advice ... unless it's "don't let this happen to you!"
sean robins
Revisionist
Submitted by BMorgan53 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:51pm.
He can rewrite his "accomplishment" but its all BS according to what actually happened
How Low Can You Go...
Submitted by Aubrey on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 7:52pm.
Just when you thought it not possible, msnbc reaches new hilarious bizarre lows.
As I see it....
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:30pm.
BASHIR: Very well. You've heard Janet Napolitano, you've heard the President speaking today, you've heard mayors, governors, everybody. Is it your view, sir, that they are handling preparations for this hurricane in the best way possible?
Nagin's proper reply, as I see it: "How the eff would I know? Do you know who you're asking, Bashir? Next question, 8itch!"
BSNBC
Submitted by tincan53 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:30pm.
That's all that needs to be said... BSNBC.
Next up: Hitler and Napoleon explain how to invade Russia
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:39pm.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Busing
Submitted by CarolinaJimbo on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:42pm.
Here's an idea. Why not have an evacuation plan? You know, maybe use the school buses to evacuate the poor. That way, when the levees break, the buses aren't ruined and the poor don't have to die.
Think like a libtard
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:54pm.
How the heck can you blame Bush for that!
Hurricane Irene
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 11:31pm.
Is Bush's fault too, as was the earthquake this past week.
Hey mslsd, I gotta better idea
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:48pm.
Let him run your hurricane preparedness.
This storm is going to fizzle, and Obama will take credit, just watch!
School bus Ray Nagin
Submitted by ssquared on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:49pm.
That Martin Bashir would invite Schoolbus Ray Nagin on his show to talk about hurricane preparedness and how politicians to deal with it is breathtaking in it's stupidity and hypocracy.
I've never seen Bashir's show and this affirms the rightness of my decision.
He is a fool.
I think the media concerning Irene has been over the top
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 8:56pm.
Where was this media during Katrina? The media must hate Black folks!
New meaning to Death by Chocolate
Submitted by CT on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:04pm.
ASStoundingly stupid brought to you by MSNBC of course.
They helped
Submitted by desert3030 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:26pm.
The telepromter read : the first thing you do is move all public transportation vechiles to a flood plain location. second make plans to buy a home one thousand miles away from the coast, third, cry I didn't get any support.
And give the President the credit for creating the storm..way to go W. What he isn't in office? He created it along with Global Warning?
Want to see our fariy boy weather reader
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 10:23pm.
Direct TV is carrying the broadcast of our local station WCTI Channel 12 in New Bern. Tune to 259, 325, or 349 to see what him.
Seriously? lol
Submitted by Chicagoray40 on Fri, 08/26/2011 - 11:07pm.
This is tantamount to asking Obama how to invest an recent inheritance in the family....
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe. –Albert Einstein My Twitter
And following that segment....
Submitted by starbuckk on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 1:25am.
...is Wile E Coyote to discuss bird hunting techniques.
Michael Vick on dog training
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 1:45am.
Michael Vick on dog training techniques.
Nagan is a Very Good Source of What Not To Do.
Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 4:35am.
If they were still alive then the people who compiled the New Oleans Hurricane Plan would be a great interview. But since the plan was compiled in the sixties and never updated adults in possitions of authority then are eighty or older now.
CBS News also interviewed Ray Nagin. Here is the
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 5:55am.
VIDEO. Nagin is also publicizing his new book titled Katrina's Secrets: Storms After The Storm.
Ray Nagin is perfectly acceptable as an expert on Katrina, for as the leftist media always points out, ONLY George W. Bush was responsible for the mishandling of the Katrina disaster.
Secrets like School buses
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:40am.
Secrets like
School buses don't float and New Orleans can flood.
Why didn't Bush let him in on these things?
Ray Nagin is a useful man.
Submitted by Thalpy on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:59am.
Mayor Nagin is the face of big city affirmative action governance for our time.
yes, that is
Submitted by misterbee241 on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 10:30am.
what i would do. go to the most spectacular failure of all time, a man who cost his state and city lives and revenue by his incompetence, yes, i'd go to him for advice and comment. i would stand him up as an example of what NOT to do.