NBC Frets Over Tea Party's 'In-Your-Face Tactics' and 'The Politics of Anger'
At the top of Wednesday's NBC Today, co-host Matt Lauer declared: "In your face. The Tea Party puts its confrontational style on display during a stop on President Obama's bus tour." Later, chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd lamented how "uplifting moments" of Obama's Midwest tour were interrupted by "a bitter taste of the energy and confrontational style of the Tea Party."
Throughout Todd's report, the headline on screen read: "The Politics of Anger; Tea Party Tactics Change Race for President." Todd noted how: "For their part, the leading Republican presidential candidates are going out of their way to defend the Tea Party's in-your-face tactics." In a sound bite, The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza explained that Republicans, "want a candidate who is willing to fight President Obama on all fronts at all times. They want confrontation, not conciliation."
Todd cited recent comments from Texas Governor Rick Perry as evidence of Tea Party tactics being employed by GOP 2012 contenders: "Perry went after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, suggesting his policies bordered on treason. And Rick Perry this week questioned President Obama's lack of military experience."
Near the end of the segment, Todd made sure to point out a gaffe by Michele Bachmann, claiming that her efforts to "soften her image" had "backfired when she tried to showcase her love for Elvis Presley," noting that she wished the late rock star happy birthday on what was actually the anniversary of his death.
Here is a full transcript of the August 17 segment:
7:00AM ET TEASE:
MATT LAUER: In your face. The Tea Party puts its confrontational style on display during a stop on President Obama's bus tour. While the GOP's newest candidate Rick Perry is facing some criticism from both parties. We'll tell you why.
7:01AM ET TEASE:
SAVANNAH GUTHRIE: And Texas Governor Rick Perry's only been in the race a couple of days and already he is drawing controversy.
LAUER: Yeah, there are a lot of cameras around him and we're going to tell you about what he said during a campaign stop in Iowa this week, it's drawing some criticism from both Democrats and Republicans. And normally wishing someone happy birthday doesn't get you into trouble but that's what happened to Michelle Bachmann during one of her campaign stops. We'll get the latest on that straight ahead as well.
7:01AM ET SEGMENT:
LAUER: Let us begin this morning, though, with the presidential race. The Tea Party and a controversial statement by Texas Governor Rick Perry. NBC's political director and chief White House correspondent Chuck Todd is in Davenport, Iowa, this morning. Hi, Chuck.
CHUCK TODD: Good morning, Matt. Look, the Tea Party, it's barely two years old, but one thing we've learned on this trip in Iowa and at the start of the 2012 presidential campaign is that they are going to be the most influential part in deciding which Republican takes on President Obama next November.
[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: The Politics of Anger; Tea Party Tactics Change Race for President]
For a president not always feeling a lot of love in the polls these days, this listening tour has had its uplifting moments.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: It's my birthday.
BARACK OBAMA [HUGGING WOMAN]: Happy birthday.
TODD: But Mr. Obama has also been getting a bitter taste of the energy and confrontational style of the Tea Party.
TEA PARTY MEMBER [RYAN RHODES]: Why doesn't somebody pass a Balanced Budget Amendment? It's simple. We could pass that and nothing else.
OBAMA: It doesn't sound like you're interested in listening. It sounds like you're interested in a fight.
RHODES: You haven't listened either. You're blaming it on everyone but yourself.
TODD: For their part, the leading Republican presidential candidates are going out of their way to defend the Tea Party's in-your-face tactics.
RICK PERRY: I have heard people say, 'Now, wait a minute, you Tea Party types, y'all are angry.' We're not angry, we're indignant.
MICHELE BACHMANN: Rather than dissing the Tea Party, we should be praising the Tea Party.
TODD: Analysts believe Republicans have to appeal to the Tea Party in both substance and style.
CHRIS CILLIZZA [THE WASHINGTON POST]: The Republican primary electorate of 2011 and 2012 want a candidate who is willing to fight President Obama on all fronts at all times. They want confrontation, not conciliation.
TODD: This week, Rick Perry went after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, suggesting his policies bordered on treason.
PERRY: If this guy prints more money between now and the election, I don't know what y'all would do to him in Iowa, but we would – we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. I mean, printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous – treasonous.
TODD: So Rick Perry went after Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, suggesting his policies bordered on treason. And Rick Perry this week questioned President Obama's lack of military experience.
PERRY: The President had the opportunity to serve his country, I'm sure at some time. He made a decision that that wasn't what he wanted to do.
TODD: In an interview on CNN, Mr. Obama decided not to fight back.
BARACK OBAMA: I'll cut him some slack. He's only been at it for a few days.
TODD: While only 25% of all Americans consider themselves Tea Party supporters, they make up nearly half of all Republican primary voters. That presents a dilemma for Republican front-runner Mitt Romney. While he does not call himself a member of the Tea Party, he doesn't want to alienate them either.
MITT ROMNEY: The Tea Party has helped change the agenda in Washington. That's a good thing.
TODD: Still, Tea Party Republican Michele Bachmann has tried to soften her image somewhat. But on Tuesday it backfired when she tried to showcase her love for Elvis Presley, whose music she uses to enter and exit campaign rallies.
MICHELE BACHMANN: Before we get started, let's all say happy birthday to Elvis Presley today. Happy birthday!
TODD: Well, the problem, yesterday was Elvis' death day. Later on, Michele Bachmann's campaign, 'Hey, Elvis lives on in spirit.' No word, Matt, if she's going to start leaving tickets for Elvis at campaign rallies like a former football coach used to do for football games.
LAUER: Exactly. Chuck Todd in Iowa this morning. Chuck, thank you very much.
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Wrong Headline: NBC Frets over Tea Party's
Submitted by Lipton on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:43am.
EXISTENCE.
But when a left-wing boob
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:48am.
But when a left-wing boob fires off against Romney, well that's OK.
Do these people ever listen to themselves?
People tend to get upset when their President is a Communist.
Submitted by JLin on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:50am.
Obama and the Democrats have successfully stolen over $8 trillion of the wealth of American taxpayers directly. First through the mortgage theft then through the bailouts, slush fund givaways, and unfunded entitlement expansion. People who deny that obvious fact are liars and traitors. This whole affair has been a carefully laid plan over decades and has resulted in the greatest white collar crime in the history of the world. As they said with Watergate: "Follow the money."
Whiners!
Submitted by HelenS on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:51am.
These BO Cheerleaders are such convincing whiners and timid little pukes that I have to believe it's not an act.
They genuinely are the new castrati.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Wow...good job Chuck...
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:51am.
pulling out a gaffe about Elvis Presley.....WTF does that have to do with the insane crap Barry O is pulling while President? And WTF does it have to do with Michelle B's ability to run the country? Hell, O thinks that the goverment is responsible for provididing health care...now that is a gaffe...maybe you should report about that one.
Well, you know
Submitted by texasborngranny on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:53am.
the leader of the TEA Party said: "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face."
Oh, wait, there's no one leader of the TEA Party?
Then who said, "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face."
WHAT!!??? It was Obama?
Then we need to throw that in the face of every dimicratick, liberal, progressive 'news' person that tries to cast a negative light on the brave soul who confronted The Big 0.
Don't forget to sharpen your
Submitted by kg on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 2:38pm.
Don't forget to sharpen your elbows and keep your boot on the throat.
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Obama's version of civility and compromise
Submitted by Tiger on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:55am.
"I won".
However the MSM in your living room
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:01pm.
marginalizing and demonizing any opposing views. That's just peachy.
and "racializing"
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:23pm.
.
soros
Submitted by MOONSTRUCK on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:05pm.
funded media in action!!!!
I wonder if the LSM realize what tools they are???
But I thought this wasn't a
Submitted by shirtsbyeric on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:06pm.
But I thought this wasn't a campaign tour.
Hey, NBC, when will we hear
Submitted by NC Cop on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:19pm.
Hey, NBC, when will we hear about your concern about the "attempted murder" tactics of the left wing, in the pockets of the democrats, union thugs:
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/08/17/non-union-business-owner-shot-in-m...
"Why did a Lambertville, Michigan business owner get shot outside of his front door two nights ago? WTOL reports that John King, who owns the largest non-union electrical contracting firm in the area, got a pretty good idea why when he saw what the attacker had done to his car:"
I'm sure our one party media will be all over this.
The Politics of Fear and Intimidation
Submitted by JustAl on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:20pm.
Is what they long for. Like their Kline Fuhrer who wishes the US was as easy to rule as Communist China and has said so publicly.
anger on the left
Submitted by ohio granny on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:22pm.
The democrats, unions and the left has the lock on anger. Their whole motto is IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH ME I WILL GET IN YOUR FACE, I WILL CALL YOU TERRORISTS, RACISTS AND ANY OTHER NASTY NAME I CAN THINK OF. I will not debate you, I will not listen to you. I don't want to hear you or let anyone else hear you.
Remember Barack Obama was the one that said if they bring a knife, we will bring a gun and get in your ENEMIES' faces. That sure sounds like anger to me. I thought the political parties were supposed to be opponents not enemies. I am sure glad obama set the record straight.
We are well aware....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:25pm.
that the left hates "face-to-face" confrontation. Their "anonymous" group-tactics are so less effective when their talking points can be challenged.
Gee, the liberal MSM is in our faces 24-7,
Submitted by johnsonl on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:27pm.
slanting the news and commentary to the left, lying, editing video to sound damaging to conservatives, fomenting violence and hate, shamelessly supporting leftist causes and ignoring any news that is damaging to the left.
Tea Party - in your face? Dem Congressman - bloody the face?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:29pm.
Well, thank goodness that the Tea Party isn't suggesting really "getting into someone's face."
Once again, NBC is living out in left field.
(;~> gary
They didn't seem to mind when
Submitted by John21 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:32pm.
They didn't seem to mind when their master (Obama) was telling all of his liberal supporters to get in the face of anyone with commonsense.
Concillation?
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:34pm.
TEA PARTY MEMBER [RYAN RHODES]: Why doesn't somebody pass a Balanced Budget Amendment? It's simple. We could pass that and nothing else.
OBAMA: It doesn't sound like you're interested in listening. It sounds like you're interested in a fight.
So, Rhodes asks a legitimate question, and Obama responds not with conciliation as in "Well, we need to sit down and weigh that with other solutions," but with an allusion to fighting that essentially puts the idea off the table. And Todd wonders why people are angry?
RHODES: You haven't listened either. You're blaming it on everyone but yourself.
And that as a fact. When has Obama admitted that he made some mistakes? I don't recall any admissions, let alone apologies, though he did offer with a bit of a grin that he learned that there are no "shovel-ready projects," without acknowledging the multi-billion dollar tuition for that lesson.
CHRIS CILLIZZA [THE WASHINGTON POST]: The Republican primary electorate of 2011 and 2012 want . . . confrontation, not conciliation.
I don't recall any Democratic leaders or their outspoken electorate talking about conciliation with Republicans in 2006 or 2008.
ALLOW ME TO TRANSLATE
Submitted by KornKing on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 4:25pm.
OBAMA: sit down and shut up, moron, our smart people will handle everything
Obama is on the ropes,
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 12:43pm.
Obama is on the ropes, politically, and his acolytes in the media are doing their best to save their dear leader. I didn't hear concerns of "in your face tactics" when Romney and Bachmann were sabotaged by union thugs last week.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James Madison'I'll cut him some slack.
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 1:02pm.
'I'll cut him some slack. He's only been at it for a few days'...............said the petulant punk about Rick Perry. If I'm not mistaken, the Axe went after Perry within hours of his announcement, and the loyal and subservient BlameStreamMedia followed suit with their own versions of how to attack Perry.
Oh, and Barry.....................I think Perry's 'been at it' for a helluva lot longer than you'll ever be able to last!!! You'll go down in history as the biggest NOTHING to ever hold the office, yet the damage that you have done will take years and years to recover from..........if we can recover from it at all, in any way.
"In your face," indeed!
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 1:25pm.
According to Rasmussen, any generic Republic has a 6 point lead over Obama in the presidential race (the sixth week in a row that a generic Republican has beat Obama). No wonder the MSM is so scared they they label the political competition as "the politics of anger!" The One is getting his butt whipped, or is "whipped" to racist to say these days?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
In 2007
Submitted by phryingphish on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 1:52pm.
In 2007 the right was "civil" and didn't "attack" Obama, they played his game. And never did Obama have a legitimate "open" session with the press, or anyone. Every time he opened his mouth it was scripted. Even in the debates that a-hat of an opponent the Republicans put forth never questioned him.
Since becoming president the story hasn't changed. Nobody can ask a question that hasn't been vetted. Not the press, not his supporters, and defiantly not his opponents.
This has just been challenged and the person that did the challenging is being vilified, as normal for the MSM. But the challengers are not backing down this time. They will advance and question Obama every time they can. That is change we can all agree with.
Help me out phryingphish...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 2:43pm.
When and how did the "civility" of the right toward Obama transmogrify into the "Kenyan-born commie Muslim terrorist-loving America-hating anti-Christ" by which the President is now more commonly regarded in those circles?
Was it a sudden epiphany--instantaneous...like a clap of thunder, or was it more akin to a gathering storm of venom which gradually but inevitably enveloped his political detractors and eventually whipped them into a blind fury of unrelenting hatred?
Not terribly important. Just trying to get the historical time line squared away.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:01pm.
I don't know where you find these things you speak of.....
No one I know calls him that..
We just call him that POS in the White House.
NavyBuckeye....
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:10pm.
I found most of them right here on the illustrious threads of NB. But I'll agree that "POS in the White House" has the advantage of being succinct and to the point. :-)
Jer
Well....
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:13pm.
I referred to Bush as the Overspending Moron but Obama has him beat on all levels so POS is what I and my fellow co-workers call him....and sadly that is being to nice.
Hmmm, tough choices
Submitted by HelenS on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:13pm.
Jer, my feeling is that it was more like a steady drip, drip, drip of irritation and disappointment that led to the complete loss of any hope and an erosion of any latent respect.
Nothing as impressive as thunder or gathering storms, alas. Merely a gnat that just wouldn't let up and finally had to be swatted.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
HelenS...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:40pm.
Was it a swat delivered with the blind fury of unrelenting hatred, or rather the reluctant, even sympathetic, but necessary smushing of a dangerous pest?
Jer
Or, Option 3
Submitted by HelenS on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:46pm.
Disgust and irritation.
I don't generally feel reluctance or sympathy when smushing dangerous pests.
I see it as more of a hives or accute nausea reaction to a toxic element. A skin crawling environment I want to get out of or rid of.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
We had that same problem at
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:51pm.
We had that same problem at our house. Turned out to be the laundry detergent.
Jer
:o)
Submitted by HelenS on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:53pm.
That was good. Nicely done :o)
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
P.S.
Submitted by HelenS on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:49pm.
I don't hate the man. I find him disgusting but that doesn't generate hate in me. More like severe aversion.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
HelenS
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:57pm.
I hate the man. What's to not hate? Can anyone point to one redeeming quality in this..... this.... android?
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His trousers are nicely pressed…
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 4:05pm.
Past that, I can’t think of a thing.
- Grump :o)
P.s.: Shy, thanks for the gracious comment the other week, and apologies for not responding at that time. - G
Jer?
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:42pm.
Playing naive again? Pretending that Obama is A-okay when you know as well as us that he's tainted and corrupt from top to bottom? You continue to plop on here defending this [ NAME -- that was very quickly "transmogrified" back in early / mid- 2008 when endless facts about his present, past, and litiny of filthy associations flooded in -- GOES HERE ].
I'll have to break it down for you, since you're attempting to put some shine on this pig, yet again:
- Kenyan-born (it's literally in the realm of possibility -- with mounds of evidence raising red flags -- though I don't harp about it at this point as he hopefully has just one year to go.)
- commie (as close to a full-blown one as we've ever had in the executive branch of our government. Go down the long list again, Jer?)
- Muslim (VERY likely when you add up all of the facts of his life with regards to religion.)
- terrorist-loving (if he's the one above, which is a strong possibility, well then... and his buddies back in Chicago? Ring a bell?)
- America-hating (yes, Jer. Where were you when he said directly to yours and everyone's face that his mission was to "transform" this country? And where were you when his very own wife, Michelle, declaired that she didn't hate America anymore now that her husband president?)
- anti-Christ (see: greater chance he's a Muslim, or Atheist, and the only "church" he attended -- for over 20 years -- was an ugly one that barely resembled a house of God, and was just a radical, hate-filled, racist, America-hating -- oh, there's that one again that you're snickering about -- gathering.)
Within months of all of his vile baggage spilling out publicly back in 2008, we all commonly, and rightly, regarded him as all of these things -- and more.
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Shy, Jer is a professional---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 8:39pm.
apologist for Obama; with the occasional foray into defending Slick Willie or the Hildebeeste. Or some other liberal. Or any Democrat.
I do not recall Jer ever addressing the sorry state that this country is in, wherein he attributes any of the mess to Obama.
Even if he has, his continual fawning over, and strident defense of this obvious pos has far, far outweighed any criticism.
Jer is apparently one of those who believes that defending Obama is not the equivalent of picking a turd up by the clean end, because as a Lib-Dim, he does not see the purple-lipped one as anything other than exemplary in all he says and does.
Free country and all, but from my perspective, his views are more disgusting than sad.
MD
Unlike you Matthew, I am capable of criticizing members
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:12pm.
of my party as well as those whose ideology I tend to espouse. You, on the other hand, are simply a blind, knee-jerk, unthinking, uncritical ideologue who smears without evidence and hates gratuitously without the slightest intervention of thought or reason. Which is both disgusting and sad. Now, you and Shy can proceed with your little silly patty-cake cheap-shot games behind my back. Very courageous of you.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:25pm.
The noise and bravado coming from you in response to MD's post combined with your pin-drop silence following mine speaks volumes.
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Shy....
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:50pm.
Those are the same hallucinated buzz-words which have been brought up and broken down in the same way for the past 3+ years. Silence is the only reasonable response. You have accepted as an article of faith that this President is an evil man...a bad man. There is no conceivable counter argument or contravening fact which will turn your thinking around. So, what's the point. It would be a waste of time for the both of us.
Jer
A waste of time, indeed,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:53pm.
because you cannot provide any evidence that Obama is not an evil man with malice in his heart.
MD
You're being a twit, Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:33pm.
"There is no conceivable counter argument or contravening fact which will turn your thinking around. So, what's the point. It would be a waste of time for the both of us."
If this is all a waste of time then what's the point of you coming on here -- a public forum -- posing this question to all who will read it:
When and how did the "civility" of the right toward Obama transmogrify into the "Kenyan-born commie Muslim terrorist-loving America-hating anti-Christ"?
So, myself, along with other NB members, took time out of our busy schedules to answer your question and explain, in varying amounts of detail, when, why and how we were forced beyond the lines of "civility" to call this spade what he was. Now you're essentially telling me I just wasted my time?? What, you thought my membership was revoked?
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Shy...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:56pm.
So you took time out of your busy schedule to assert ridiculous drivel such as there are mounds of evidence suggesting Obama was born in Kenya and that he is likely a Muslim when you add up all the facts in his life with regard to religion. You wasted your time.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:22am.
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Baby steps.
He's quite likely a Muslim. I'd say 60-40, or more. I will gladly give you the very long list of factors and facts that will support my contention. I gave a somewhat-truncated list of Obama: Muslim-or-Not? to my brother, who was calling me out for "crazy talk" at just my suggestion that he might be.
Want to know what I got in response? Crickets. Never heard from him again on that issue.
As for his birthplace, that is the one thing I won't bore you and others here with, but plenty of it has been documented, and there's well enough to make almost anyone skeptical, even those who don't want to belabor the issue.
But I'll go into detail with all of the other names we call him, starting with Muslim. I can't wait.
That you continue to feign outrage, dismissing these charges as "ridiculous drivel" when all of it has been covered extensively from 2008-on, and vast amounts of links, sources, quotes, etc., have been posted to back it all up, tells me who the truly blind ideologue in the room is.
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Behind your back, Jer?---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:59pm.
In an open thread?
Very courageous of Shy and I?
Good lord if you haven't topped yourself as a world class whiner.
You have attained galactic level in that regard.
While I respect your intelligence, and certainly admire your sense of humor, it has got to be evident to you that I disagree completely with your take on politics, Democrats, and you and other liberal's tactics with that nasty race card flicking habit of yours.
In your book, the slightest amount of criticism to members of your own Party, as well as of anyone whose ideology you espouse, is supposed to earn you immunity from any criticism whatsoever, by a conservative.
Doesn't work that way.
If you side, as a lefty, with the lefties, you are going to get slammed by conservatives.
I notice that occurs with exciting regularity around here.
I also notice that while to you I am only a "knee-jerking, blind, unthinking, (uncritical?) ideologue who smears without evidence and hates gratuitously without the slightest intervention of thought or reason", that you are projecting nothing more than your opinion.
Where is your proof of those charges?
Why should you be allowed a pass on your opinion of me without you supporting same with evidence that you posit I do not provide in my posts?
You, in your staunch liberal attack mode, are disgusting to me; and your continued complaining is even more childish than sad.
MD
I don't flick race cards,
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:43pm.
I don't flick race cards, Matthew, no matter how much you insist otherwise. The practice has been repeatedly condemned by me long before you arrived here and has continued for the entire four years I've been at NB. And I have provided specific examples, but they obviously zip right over your head because they presumably interfere with your view of the stereotypical race-obsessed liberal. Your false, unsupported, naked allegations however--as much as you would hope otherwise--aren't going to intimidate me from calling things as I see them, whether it be critical of Republicans or Democrats.
How about listing the conservatives you have taken to task and the reasons for doing so. Maybe I missed them. Can you point to a single comment of mine where I have attacked the character of any Republican president or a first lady? No, you can't. Yet you are incapable of mentioning the name of a single Democrat of the past twenty years unless it's accompanied by a pejorative such as "purple lips" or POS, or Slick Willie, or Hildebeast. Your blind partisanship prevents you from engaging in any objective thought process, and induces the issuance of baseless smears to validate your misguided preconceptions.
You've posted hundreds and hundreds of comments, yet if you have included more than a couple of links--in total--I would be very surprised. Your forte` is the ad hominem attack and dispensing grammar and spelling lessons. Debating substantive issues is apparently too much of a challenge for you.
Jer
Yawn
Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:51pm.
And a big one at that.
When you're done with your Me Me Me, The Wonderful Liberal Jer On A Conservie Site soap-boxing, and you actually want to address my point-by-point reasons for why we call Obama the names we call him, and offer any counter-arguments or sources to prove he's not the things many of us are most certain he is -- or you'd like me to go more in-depth with any of it -- I'll be where I always am.
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My comment was addressed to Matthew, Shy....
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 11:58pm.
Why don't you return to your busy schedule.
Jer
Negative, Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:19am.
Your comment is addressed to the world.
You're mucking up this public thread (and have pulled me into the pig muck) with more personal you-and-another-member tripe. PM MD, if you must. And no, I won't lecture him to do the same. You're a liberal, and you're clearly glutton for punishment being a member here some 4+ years and knowing, every day, the rise you will get from us.
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Just more opinionated bullshit from you, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:55am.
nothing more.
You simply will not accept that my take on your liberalness is valid from my perspective; instead you merely go on and on about my shortcomings - as seen by you, a liberal - while elevating yourself to almost godhead level in the arena of fairness, open-mindedness, and desire to be seen as non-confrontational, i.e. never attacking unless someone else, always a conservative, starts it.
You will not accept that your defense of the piece of shit in the White House is not seen by conservatives as a noble effort, but rather the offensive act of pissing down our leg and attempting to convince us it is raining when there is not a cloud in the sky.
You will not accept, that as a liberal, at the very least you ideologically hang with those who have honed race card flicking to the point the card has been sharpened to such a fineness that it is now slicing the hands and fingers of the liberal Democrats who first perfected the practice.
It is not my intention to intimidate anyone, but to state how I feel.
Care to try and change that, Mr. Liberal Democrat?
You accuse me of blind partisanship, yet are unable to see your own. What, are you exempt from being called a partisan because you brag, eternally, about calling out a lib or a Democrat? Ain't gonna get by that easy.
Obama has purple lips, Willie was slick, and Hillary is still a beast regardless of her political preference or leanings. The woman is a nasty piece of work. QED.
My "blind partisanship prevents me from engaging in any objective thought process, and induces the issuance of baseless smears to validate my misguided preconceptions", but everyone is supposed to take your blather as the most effective guide to racial tolerance and political understanding between the current entities?
What a hoot!
What does providing links have to with me debating substantive issues?
I told you before that I post my opinions, and if you continue to bring link connections or lack thereof up as either the only way to win a point, or as a possible mortal sin on my part, then you are more of a fookin' idiot than I gave you credit for being.
Most people are not particularly great spellers, and using poor grammar is not a death knell for anyone.
Pointing out misspellings and bad grammar does, though, provide two arrows in the quiver when dealing with supercilious trolls, liberals, or shitheads who commit those types of errors.
As far as you personally throwing the race card, I can't say I have ever seen an instance of that; it is your penchant for jumping right in as an avenging force to call out anyone who has made, in YOUR opinion, a questionable racial reference or statement; that is especially annoying, because not everyone agrees with you, and not agreeing with you does NOT make either the person, or their comment, racist.
MD
MatthewDean
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:58am.
History tells that you are right. History gets distorted by libs.
Oh and also as far as race is concerned
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:00am.
the democrats are the ones who have ALWAYS been racist.
I dare to pose the question
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:14am.
here! What party?!?! in history?!?! is more racist?????????????
where are
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:22am.
you AirForce888? Oh yes you got banned. Maybe because, IMO, that the 888, meant Heil Hitler. or you were just dumb and a Lib. I dare any lib to prove that the Repub`s are racist and i also declare that i want one, just one lib, to explain the history of the DEMORATS.
Prisondog...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:46am.
There have been literally thousands of comments posted on dozens and dozens of threads on that topic [including the history and role of the Democratic party with respect to same] The entire subject has been comprehensively hashed and rehashed exhaustively. Sit tight. I'm sure you won't have to wait very long before it is delved into once again.
Jer
BTW...Here is an email I received Wednesday morning from a Republican acquaintance. Pretty funny, huh? Yes, racist remarks are not the province of one party alone.
Subject: Fw: Fw: ANNOUNCEMENT
PUBLIC SERVICE
ANNOUNCEMENT !!!
***EFFECTIVE
IMMEDIATELY***
The term
"Nigger
Rigged"is absolutely
no longer acceptable.
You will now
refer to it as a "Presidential
Solution."
Thank
You !
expalin
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:26am.
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Prisondog---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:32am.
You ok?
Looks like your computer exploded. :o)
MD
yes
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 1:35am.
lol am fixing it now.
confrontation, the hell you say...
Submitted by Rackie on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 2:25pm.
This a good old fashion showdown. A decisive moment in the history of our country between opposing parties. We are going to fix this liberal mess because the truth will win the day.
We are, as they say, ready to square off .We're going to swift kick the liberal agenda square in the balls. Repeatedly.
We will take the liberal bullshit by the horns without fear or evasiveness and stare down the danger that Obama and his ilk represent.
If anyone thinks this will be some freaking kumbaya moment, think again. That time has come and gone.
OY!
Submitted by GONAVY on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 2:27pm.
This again? What's next? Racists....Nazi's....Rednecks......Stupid......
Same old rhetoric, name calling, no facts, hide BHO's record. Where do these boobs get their paychecks? I've always thought follow the money if you want the truth.
I'd have to say that the
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:00pm.
I'd have to say that the 'politics of hope' has probably contributed immensely to the 'politics of anger'.....
translation:
Submitted by russedav on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:32pm.
what they really want in a GOP "contendah" is a bunny as dumb as he is so as not to disturb his endless vacations from reality lest he be woken up to the cold truth that we're in catastrophic, disastrous meltdown thanks to him and his incompetence, not least due to his colossal narcissist ego, with most of his time spent drooling before the mirror wetting himself in his excitement at what/who he alone sees, the 0's "emperor's new clothes" derangement.
Angry? No, we passed that a long time ago
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 3:38pm.
What we are is mad as Hell about what the people OF BOTH PARTIES we sent to Washington have done to this country.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Politico is standing by the Biden story
Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 5:36pm.
So, if several people sourced it live, then several other people verified it immediately after the fact, then the VP's spokesperson implied it's factual and neither the VP nor the House Democratic Leadership has requested a retraction, does it make a sound?
And if it does, and the President stands in front of a citizen and implicitly denies it, does that make him a liar?
"Does that make him a liar?"
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:20am.
Well, Bk, we have to revisit that old analogy, of "if it walks like a duck".
But,the reason that the House Dem Leadership and the VP haven't requested a retraction, is that the LSM will hardly breathe a whisper about this. After all, they're more concerned about 0 proclaiming his newfound love for America.
The Mimbo seems to have forgotten
Submitted by frank14 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 5:36pm.
when Hussein told his minions to "get in the face" of those who opposed their Messiah.
Perhaps the media could
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 8:09pm.
Perhaps the media could remember the 8 years of the Bush Administration when they cheered people throwing shoes as W, murder art against W, burnings in effigy of W, vile epithets against W, and the list goes on and on. Had they not done that, then their complaints now might not be falling on deaf ears.
Tea Party is lower than Muslims says a new poll
Submitted by hayate1 on Wed, 08/17/2011 - 10:45pm.
A CBS/New York Times polls show that disapproval of the Tea Party movement doubled between April 2010 and June 2011, from 18 percent to 40 percent in 14 months. Putnam and Campbell found the Tea Party "ranks lower than any of the 23 other groups we asked about -- lower than both Republicans and Democrats. It is even less popular than much maligned groups like 'atheists' and 'Muslims.' Interestingly, one group that approaches it in unpopularity is the Christian Right." Let's hope Republican politicians, and even our over-conciliatory Democratic president, sees the growing unpopularity of the Tea Party movement, and stop letting them run the country.
From Joan Walsh
"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."
Thanks, you provide comic relief on a regular schedule.
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 12:24am.
Citing CBS, the NYT and Joan Walsh of Salon doesn't do much for your tattered credibility around these parts. Unless you're trying out a new comedy act so you can appear on the Bill Maher show or Lopez's attempt at a comedy show.
Did I miss something?? Is the
Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 2:04am.
Did I miss something?? Is the TEA party 'running the country'??? I know I'm out here on an outer island of Hawaii, but I do try to keep myself informed. When did this happen?? And...........I'm glad that it happend - IF it actually DID happen!!! Last I heard, the Barama REGIME was STILL running, and RUINING, the country................
BOB thinks Liberal Union thug tactics are Okay;
Submitted by scottyusmc on Thu, 08/18/2011 - 7:24am.
but TEA Party members with the nerve to ask him a critical question are Politics of Anger... Un-Freakin-Believeable.... And the lap-dog media blindly soak it up.. Useful Idiots they are!!!