NBC's 'Today' Frets Celebrations After bin Laden's Death Were 'Very Disturbing' to Children
On NBC's Today on Wednesday, co-host Matt Lauer worried about Americans celebrating the death of Osama bin Laden: "...your children are going to see, and have already seen, people in the streets celebrating about the death of someone and that's a contradictory image for them." Today contributor and psychiatrist Gail Saltz replied: "Absolutely, very disturbing for them."
The segment was on how to talk to children about the killing of bin Laden and Saltz speculated that kids may ask: "Why are people partying, being happy that anybody was killed?" She suggested those who celebrated may now regret their actions: "I think it's really important to talk about this, because what you saw was a lot of people who, in the impulse of the moment, reacted in a way that later on they may not be happy about."
Saltz further declared:
...this is a conversation really about moral development that you're going to help your child with. So do they feel right about people partying, and smiling, and looking happy? Does it look different enough from recent pictures we've seen of what went on in Egypt and so on? I think those are the kinds of – and I think it's fine for you to say, 'I don't think they should be celebrating,' if you don't.
Almost as an afterthought she briefly entertained an alternative perspective: "Or 'I think they were celebrating because of their patriotism.'"
At the end of the segment, Lauer concluded: "And always when you're having these discussions try to emphasize things like open-mindedness and-" Both Saltz and child development specialist Robyn Silverman quickly joined in the political correctness. Saltz finished Lauer's sentence: "Tolerance." Silverman agreed: "So important." Saltz then added: "And say that this man looked a certain way doesn't mean that everybody who looks that way is a bad person." Silverman chimed in: "Absolutely." Lauer agreed: "That's important."
Here is a transcript of the May 4 exchange:
8:21AM ET
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MATT LAUER: Some typical questions, this one's from our viewers. 'I talked to my girls about it, they are 8, 10, and 12. They asked me why he was killed and why they didn't just put him in jail where all bad people go.' How do you answer that question?
ROBYN SILVERMAN [CHILD DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST]: I mean, it's a tough question because we – that's what we're taught, that they should go away. But we need to help them see that while this guy was alive, people were frightened about what he could do next, no matter where he was. So the people who were in charge of the safety of our country made a decision that he couldn't be alive.
LAUER: And this kind of plays on that but takes it to the next step, Gail. We're – your children are going to see, and have already seen, people in the streets celebrating about the death of someone and that's a contradictory image for them.
DR. GAIL SALTZ [PSYCHIATRIST AND TODAY CONTRIBUTOR]: Absolutely, very disturbing for them. Why are people partying, being happy that anybody was killed? I think it's really important to talk about this, because what you saw was a lot of people who, in the impulse of the moment, reacted in a way that later on they may not be happy about.
In other words, the question of what is the difference between justice here and revenge? These are the kinds – because this is a conversation really about moral development that you're going to help your child with. So do they feel right about people partying, and smiling, and looking happy? Does it look different enough from recent pictures we've seen of what went on in Egypt and so on? I think those are the kinds of – and I think it's fine for you to say, 'I don't think they should be celebrating,' if you don't. Or 'I think they were celebrating because of their patriotism.'
LAUER: Robin, let me try this one on you, and I don't have a lot of time left. But it seems as if in the very near future we will either see a photo or not see a photo of the body of Osama bin Laden. Your children are going to be possibly exposed to that photo and it's going to be disturbing to them, they're going to have questions. How do you handle it?
SILVERMAN: You wait for them to come to you. Limit media exposure as much as you can. Keep routines similar and be available to your children as much as possible for their concerns and their questions.
LAUER: And always when you're having these discussions try to emphasize things like open-mindedness and-
SALTZ: Tolerance
LAUER: Tolerance and things like that.
SILVERMAN: So important.
SALTZ: And say that this man looked a certain way doesn't mean that everybody who looks that way is a bad person.
SILVERMAN: Absolutely.
LAUER: That's important. Gail and Robin, thank you both very much.
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So, when muslim children dance
Submitted by johnsonl on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:41pm.
in the streets as Americans are killed, does it "disturb" them? No. They are taught to hate christians and America from birth. That's muslim culture. Nice, huh?
I don't need a shrink who looks like he sits down to pee to tell me how to tell my kids that America's worst enemy was caught and killed.
They also get "sweets"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:45pm.
The Death Bunny hands them out.
Arrrh!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:29am.
Check this story out: http://news.yahoo.com/s/pew/20110505/ts_pew/40vs42doesislamencourageviol... results from Pew Does Islam Encourage Violence? Media & political brain washing does work in covering up Islam. Majority say they are no more likely to do violence than ANY other religion. Arrrh! These people still actively STONE people, cut off hands, force xeS & marriage, kill & enslave Christians, kill converts & on & on! Such unbelievable blindness & bigotry against the INNOCENT! All in the PC god name of "fairness!" Zero objectivity!
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In a poll taken prior to the recent outbreak of anti-U.S. violence in Afghanistan over a U.S. pastor’s burning of a Koran, the public remained divided over whether Islam is more likely than other religions to encourage violence among its believers, with 40% saying the Islamic religion is more likely than others to encourage violence while 42% said it is not. The national Pew Research Center survey conducted Feb. 22-March 1 found that most young people (58%) rejected the idea that Islam is more likely than other religions to promote violence while a 45%-plurality of those ages 50 and older (45%) said Islam is more likely. Political and ideological divisions were even wider: By roughly three-to-one (66% to 21%), conservative Republicans said Islam encourages violence more than other religions. Moderate and liberal Republicans were divided -- 46% said Islam is more likely to encourage violence, 47% said it is not. By more than two-to-one (61% to 29%), liberal Democrats felt that Islam is not more likely than other religions to promote violence. Conservative and moderate Democrats, by a smaller margin (48% to 31%), agreed. Fully 67% of those who agree with the Tea Party movement said Islam is more associated with violence than other religions. Among those who disagree with the Tea Party, the balance of opinion was nearly reversed -- 62% said Islam is no more likely than other religions to promote violence while 24% said it is. Among the large share of the public that offers no opinion of the Tea Party, 38% said Islam is more likely to promote violence while about the same number (41%) disagreed.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Dang what would VJ or VG day?
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:41pm.
Dang what would VJ or VG day? And are not these the same nets who give us these reality shows and teen monstrosity shows for little kids to watch?
Dan, You got that straight.
Submitted by rwesley2.0 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:03am.
Dan,
You got that straight. And these nets also think its not disturbing to push same-sex marriage and the other multitude of homosexual issues without batting an eye. They would readily push the green agenda, telling kids we're all gonna die if you don't stop using bottled water.
Some kind of concern they have there.
"Why are people partying,
Submitted by forest on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:44pm.
"Why are people partying, being happy that anybody was killed?"
Because "anybody" wasn't killed. Bin Laden was killed.
Or how about:
Submitted by Scout Finch on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:59pm.
"Because this was an evil man who planned the painful and tragic death of 3000 innocent fellow Americans!"
Are some American parents so stupid that this needs to be explained?
in a word...
Submitted by Orpheus75 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:17am.
yes
pontificating putzes
Submitted by wizardjr on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:44pm.
It rankles that people like this who suck the IQ out of a room by entering it get paid such enormous wages to mislead and misinform the public.
American kids saw people
Submitted by rbosque on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 5:50pm.
American kids saw people dropping to their deaths on 9-11, and Muslim kids danced when it happened.
Idiot.
Will Libs ever grow up?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:01pm.
No, their mental disease won't let them. What's the disease? Stupidity.
Instead of the word Liberal insert the word Stupid(s) or Stupidity and it will work in context.
For example, Will the Stupids ever grow up?
Wow!!! I think we should
Submitted by goon on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:06pm.
Wow!!! I think we should celebrate our asses off that this animal was killed. I could care less what some relevant person like Matt Lauer feels.
We must get the chitlins into therapy ASAP.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:12pm.
Dancing in the streets. NOOOOOO!!!!!.
Moonbat Cluebat: I'm sure many kids with an internet connection have already seen the photos of the killshots that Reuters released today.
By Friday, Friday, they'll all have seen it. Too bad we still have that Ritalin shortage going on.
I saw the photos, also. But
Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:19pm.
I saw the photos, also. But then I read the article. And watch out -- there's a push now to claim that bin laden was shot down in cold blood, unarmed and innocent. The Reuters' article emphasized that "there was what seemed to be a green, children's toy water pistol near the body". Know what that implies, don't you? That we had gung-ho "cowboy" out-of-control commandos shooting wildly at everything and anything.
Anything to blame America. Wonder how long it's going to take for obama's justice dept to investigate, and then shut down, Seal Team 6?
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
This n that
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:30pm.
I've heard that claim, and like many others, I say, so what? Every time that comes up we should start showing pictures of the women and children killed in the towers, on the planes, in the Kenyan embassy, and everywhere else Bin Laden spread his evil.
Radical, It is horrific,
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:19pm.
Radical,
It is horrific, much more horrific what happened on 911 than we can imagine. I was reading an article written by one of the survivors of the Towers. One of the thing that he vividly described is the headless bodies of countless of the airplane passengers that he saw. Airplane seats holding destroyed bodies, horrificly burnt and missing parts.
He also described how people on the ground heard AND FELT the splash of the bodies of individuals who rather die falling to the ground than burnt alive.
None of us can imagine the carnage, not one of us that the 911 attacks caused.
why doesn't NBC do a round table of what these horrific scenes seen by 911 survivors can lead to?!
Great posts on this subject.
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:34am.
Great posts on this subject. Agree Liberallies, amazing how short peoples memory is EVEN when all our LIVES are on the LINE. Matt thinks it is a joke apparently. Again "fairness" of PCism forbids them from "unfairly" bringing up graphic 911 realities.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
what's more disturbing for kids
Submitted by ctophfranko on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:13pm.
is that we all have to be a bunch of hand-wringing pansies who have can't have a single unifying moment in a long hard war. Liberals are really torn up, on one hand, Fearless Leader has all the momentum, on the other, we killed an unarmed man in a sovereign nation without its permission using intel that we got from "torture" and executed by an "extra-legal death squad." It's the same question we ask whenever 44 does something, what if 43 had done it? Kucinich would be drawing up the impeachment article as we speak.
Another thought, this could be a "teachable moment" for kids, if you're evil people will be happy when you die, don't be evil.
eggselent
Submitted by vcb-tn on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:07pm.
right along the lines of what i was thinking, saved me a post.
Songs
Submitted by grammajane on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:23pm.
Wonder what Matt thinks about the Rap music spewing hate and killing being played on the radio/tv daily?? Is that disturbing to kids???
SHOCKING CELEBRATION OF
Submitted by tombaker on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:27pm.
SHOCKING CELEBRATION OF KILLING VIEWED BY CHILDREN!
NBC reports today that scenes of celebrations after the killing of "The Bad Witch" were shown by irresponsible parents who let their children see the Wizard of Oz.
Matt Lauer said, " The section where the people were singing "ding dong the Witch is gone" is a terribly traumatic to me, and anyone I think should be allowed to view this movie. We have intellectuals with degrees that shall determine what your children can view and understand." Lauer giggled and said it was all for the best. "
Lauer went on to say that all children should always believe that the boogie man, remains and will never die. And that who is to judge if the Witch was really "bad or not"
They can deal with it.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:30pm.
Is it more disturbing for those delicate muslim children to witness the stonings and beheadings that many practice as part of their religion? Who does Lauer think all those internet videos of muslim beheadings are made for? They are made for children to teach them what they will be doing as part of their religion.
It's about time they saw the consequences of killing Americans.
Release the photo Obsama! We paid for it! NOT YOU!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:46am.
Amen to that: "They are made for children to teach them what they will be doing as part of their religion. It's about time they saw the consequences of killing Americans."
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
What a bed wetting wuss
Submitted by Bill Brasky on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:37pm.
Matt Lauer is a limp-wristed, blathering, bed-wetting liberal fool. Even the kids would make fun of this chump.
For Matt Lauer So Hated America...
Submitted by Avitar on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 6:48pm.
Children see NBC Dramas every day where the "bad guy" is tortured endlessly on "Law and Order" Frequently the "bad guy" has done nothing illegal just politically incorrect..
The most disturbing thing this week has been the professional talking heads who have used the occassion to condem American pride for hunting down one of the worst men in the world today.
That they feel that their jobs are so secured that they can do this is...disturbing.
What nonsense
Submitted by iacta alea est on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:32pm.
I was speaking with my 11 yr. old daughter Lucy last night. I asked her what she thought about the SEALs killing Osama.
She said, "I'm glad they killed him. He was a bad man who wanted to keep on killing people. Babci (her maternal Gramma) said we didn't have the right to go into another country to kill anybody."
I asked her, "What did you say"?
She said," I told her he didn't have the right to explode planes and kill so many Americans, and that is more important".
I am one proud papa. Wait until she learns about taxes!
Leftist morality police
Submitted by ThisnThat on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:41pm.
And exactly what has Matt Lauer said recently about the daily killings of babies in this nation's abortion clinics? Has he consulted child psychologists about that, yet? Is he wringing his hands? Talking about "tolerance"?
And how does Lauer apply this phrase to that situation: "because this is a conversation really about moral development that you're going to help your child with."
We all know how the left works. No morality in day-to-day living situations. But let us knock off an evil, non-white person -- then all hell breaks loose with the leftist morality police. Hypocrites, all.
__________
“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
The real trauma
Submitted by QueenMum on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:57pm.
Good point, TnT. I'd think a child would more easily identify with an innocent unborn baby. Most children old enough to be exposed to television news are old enough to know the difference between a mass murderer and an innocent baby.
“If you don't read the newspaper, you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper, you are misinformed." - Mark Twain
Agreed ThisnThat. Forward
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:50am.
Agreed ThisnThat. Forward Leaning Progressives are for the Innocent and underdog. What a LIE! They kill the unborn with a true passion and then enslave 1 in 7 now with their economy killing socialism! How's the war on poverty going progressives? PROVEN failure & hurting more and more people NEAR YOU each day!
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Lions & Tigers & Bears ... Oh My!
Submitted by Crash on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:48pm.
This is what happens when parents turn a child's mind over to bed wetting liberals.
When has the media had a
Submitted by Liberallies on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 7:53pm.
When has the media had a round table discussion on how worried they are about Middle Eastern Chidlren seeing the beheading of "infadels". Seeing their parents dance in the streets after a Western is murdered at the hands of Mulsims.
When has the media done a round table discussion on how horrific it is for children to watch women being stoned to death because the horrors, they dare show their face.
I don't like celebrations over the death of anyone, but this NBC segment is hypocritical at best.
But heck, attack the Western culture, stay silent about Muslim culture. pathetic!
Muslims dancing the street?
Submitted by apf2 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:21am.
You ask when will they talk about the psychological damage to muslim kids wathching their parents dancing in the streets after an American is murdered. I wonder when they will address the issue of muslim kids and their parents PARTICIPATING in the murder of an American!
I won't be holding my breath...
This is not so crazy a
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:31pm.
This is not so crazy a notion. Obviously morning shows struggle to cover a story like this from every conceivable angle, but I can see kids asking their parents why people were cheering for someone's death.
Bal,
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:33pm.
Although I personally, did not cheer, I understand those who did. It was a military victory. It was also the destruction of a man who was determined to kill as many innocents as he possible could. People must ask themselves, would they have cheered when Hitler died? Would that have been wrong?
Rad
Submitted by balboa on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:50pm.
No I don't think it's wrong; it's a personal choice thing. I'm saying that it's possuble for small kids to be confused by it, thats all.
At first blush..
Submitted by Mark81150 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:51am.
I was surprised at the enomous reaction in the streets of America, and I did grow up in an old fashioned home, where it was considered wrong to cheer someones death.. but that's more like, I know daddy didn't like him sweetheart, but we do not act happy that anyone died, even cousin........... you know? That's a personal level morality,
But to cheer OBL's death is more like VJ or VE day than a personal celerbration, folks see this as a major victory in a war that has few easy to count like this.
Buty the MSM over reaction and nanny statish scolding?
Screw them, where do they get the right to imply, what a good liberal (let alone an American) should think and act like? They get that as a new journolista directive, or collectively can't stand to see Americans enjoy a victory in a long harsh war?
Where do they get the right to lecture anyone?
I was ambilivent before, now I'm angry as Hell at the jackassery of them judging America over this, when they made a thousand cultural excuses for Arabs dancing in the streets on 911... we shouldn't be mean and judge them..
they sure as Hell are judging now..
except
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:51am.
"morning shows struggle to cover a story like this from every conceivable angle" - except a conservative one - usually
Have you seen Fox & Friends
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:36am.
Have you seen Fox & Friends lately?
bal,
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:23pm.
once was more than enough - Thank you! Are we really going to discuss one station vs all of the MSM morning shows? Suffice to say that what news Morning Shows actually cover is lame and mostly non-partisan. But the little real coverage they attempt is 75-80% in the liberal meme (WAG based on the very few mornings I've spent with remote in hand).
It is actually more
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:32pm.
It is actually more disturbing to children to see Obama in charge of anything that effects their lives.
So today they are considered
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:49pm.
So today they are considered children, tomorrow when it fits the left wing agenda they are considered adults. Just more left wing PC garbage.
Fret??? I think not!
Submitted by Spoker on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 8:58pm.
It was my 17 year old daughter was the one that told me about the SEALS getting OBL. She then went on to recall watching the 2nd plane hit live on TV and people jumping from the towers while sitting on my wife and my bed. Her only significant reaction was that "it was about time he was brought to justice".
We were all pretty happy about the news
Submitted by Boudin on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:05pm.
Down here, couldnt help it. Our patriotism got the better of us.
Now I just hope, it's true?
It's time Matt.
Submitted by blazermaniac on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 9:13pm.
It is time for Matt Lauer to get the hell off of TV. Lauer talking to anyone, is more disturbing than what happened on Sunday evening.
Open-mindedness
Submitted by TeachertT on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:13pm.
And always when you're having these discussions try to emphasize things like open-mindedness and-
Yeah, they are so open-minded that their brains fell out. Ugh!
Hi All!
Hello Teacher
Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:02am.
Welcome to NewsBusters. : )
Hi, Teacher---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:51am.
I second what Rukus said !
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Um, Gail, as a fellow psychiatrist I would remind you....
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:29pm.
...that emotions and feelings most often do not arise as a result of logic. Remember that they taught us that feelings and emotions are more often visceral and antithetic to a reasoned consideration of the facts? Remember that is why we refer to emotions as subjective and laboratory results as objective? Oy.
This wasn't a conversation about children . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 10:57pm.
. . . This was a conversation between "children" -- they just look like grown-ups.
Liberals are...
Submitted by Red Jeep on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:08am.
Liberals are adults who bodies have matured into adulthood but their minds have not. They still have the mind of a child. Forever Peter Pans. They are very good at acting (pretending) and music and art.
These America-hating commie pukes are just trying to discourage
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:08pm.
...any future public celebrations that show patriotism for the country they hate.
BTW: My take on the celebrants in DC is that a large percentage of them were bussed-in Obamabots.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave that makes me want to
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:01am.
Dave that makes me want to jump up & down to celebrate when the "new #1" is brought down. PCism is dangerous as you are duly noting. Justice must be celebrated when there is due moral cause. Unity builds a society. John Lennon and the likes said there is a way w/o war & death. This is "difficult" when you have an enemy sworn to kill you for no cause other than not converting. We have a duty to survive & protect our families.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
First, "The Children"
Submitted by Chris Norman on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:19pm.
The question of public celebrations aside, I can't help but notice that, once again, the liberal media invoke "the children" so they can express their own views on a subject. I suppose that there's a chance that over the coming days we'll be treated to the questions on how this affected "women" and "minorities"...
You know, I just have to wonder...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Wed, 05/04/2011 - 11:32pm.
...if all the celebrations had focused more on Obama and it looked like everyone was thanking and supporting him more, would more of the media be playing up the jubilation instead of criticizing it? Because it seems a lot like sour grapes because Obama didn't get as big of a bump as they'd hoped.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
They either have unrealistic
Submitted by TerryWest on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:04am.
They either have unrealistic ideas of just how many children watched any celebration, or they are once again using children as human shields to hide behind in order to voice their rhetoric and opinions.
Perhaps their own network looped a celebration or searched them out but I have not seen any significant celebration coverage myself other then once, a half minute clip outside the White house last Sunday night.
America is happy the terrorist is dead but we didn't see them hit the streets signing praises to the administration across the nation, and now these liberals turn what must surly be a disappointment into condescending story time for parents, as if it was their idea and reflex value system all along that was against celebration.
Amazing
Submitted by Bob K on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:13am.
I wonder why they do not think violence and death on network television is threatening and harmful to children.
Or the MTV channel that
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:31am.
Or the MTV channel that promotes infidelity, multiple sexual partners, rap music that glamorizes gang membership, drug use, crime, disrespect of women, prostitution and foul language.
Actually, I think children
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:34am.
Actually, I think children understand exactly why people are celebrating and why it is important to celebrate the death of a horribly evil, psychopathic murderer like Usama Bin Laden. I especially believe that young boys understand why we had to kill this evil bastard.
It is only when these children get older they might have an issue with it because by that time, the liberal establishment in this country will have de-masculinized them, made them feel sorry for villain's in stories, and made them afraid to stand up for their God-given right to live a life free of bull$hit terrorist scumbags that need to be eliminated from the face of the Earth.
I truly believe we are all born knowing what is right and what is not right and only a liberal can alter that sacred truth.
I only wish the death of Osama would have been a little slower because this degenerate killed thousands of my fellow Americans.
America didn't become strong by acting like Dr. Phil. America became strong by acting like John Wayne.
Thought experiment,..
Submitted by Mark81150 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:15am.
http://www.google.com/search?q=vj+day&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&...
"For this victory, we join in offering our thanks to the Providence which has guided and sustained
us through the dark days of adversity.
Our rejoicing is sobered and subdued by a supreme consciousness of the terrible price we have
paid to rid the world of Hitler and his evil band. Let us not forget, my fellow Americans, the
sorrow and the heartache which today abide in the homes of so many of our
neighbors-neighbors whose most priceless possession has been rendered as a sacrifice to
redeem our liberty."~~~~ President Harry Truman.
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/calendar/viewpapers.php?pid=34
They danced when Hitler died and Berlin was smashed.
They danced in New York streets two days after Hiroshima as Japan surrendered..
Our young celerbate the victory (as they did) of life over the cults of death.. and these folks give us this.?
"Lauer concluded: "And always when you're having these discussions try to emphasize things like open-mindedness and-" Both Saltz and child development specialist Robyn Silverman quickly joined in the political correctness. Saltz finished Lauer's sentence: "Tolerance." Silverman agreed: "So important." Saltz then added: "And say that this man looked a certain way doesn't mean that everybody who looks that way is a bad person." Silverman chimed in: "Absolutely." Lauer agreed: "That's important."
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I really do think, PC thinking and liberalism has rotted out more than a few brains.. in case they missed it, those were democrats, republicans, independents,.. all just being Americans together for awhile.
but we shouldn't judge that pasty white skin, blue eyes and their culture which led to this.. no no, we must teach folks you can judge folks just cause they say they want to eradicate Jews..
Oooops, wrong war,.. but...
you get my point.
I reserve the right to judge the b*stards who want my family dead absolutely I do.. I reserve the right to rejoice in their sudden and extreme departure from this planet.. and would happily pull the trigger to send them on their way..
Judge that Matt, you candyass
The celebrants were kids on 9-11
Submitted by stunned on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:21am.
I saw the crowds that night. Most were in their twenties. They were in school in the 3rd-12th grade on 9-11 and many of their childhoods ended that day. Bin Laden was their boogie man, the stuff of their nightmares, and by God it must have been damn good for their mental health to know he was dead. I have a 19 year old niece who is a mild mannered kid and I was shocked when she told me she danced alone around the living room cheering when she heard the news then spent the entire night up talking on the phone and on the computer with friends celebrating. I asked her why??? She looked at me as if I was crazy and informed me that this was the second most important day of her life (9-11 was the the first).
I spoke with her mom, my sister, and we really had no idea how truly those kids were affected by that day and we live outside NYC. Our family and close friends lost no one but we did know people who escaped the towers that day. Our niece had classmates who lost family members, siblings and relatives of friends have gone off to war, and Bin Laden has been a dominating figure in their lives. My kids (12-8) were not the least bit upset by the celebrations. Their take on it was a really bad guy was killed by our soldiers and will not hurt anyone else so what's the problem? My 12 year old son told me he and his friends had a blast at lunch this week coming up with dead Bin Laden jokes.
A kid's world is black and white, good and evil and it is only grown-up libs wallowing in a world of shades of gray who are having mental health issues.
tired of liberal lies
Thank You so much for your
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:29am.
Thank You so much for your entry. See above, I tried to get across the exact same message as you. The liberal panty-wastes that have been running our media and our schools for over 40 years in this country have been teaching us to not be proud of America, that fighting is bad and that nothing is worth killing or dying for. At the same time, young boys are being taught to be metro-sexuals that love to talk about their feelings and to not be overly aggressive. Sometimes, I wonder just how the hell the U.S. Marines and the Navy Seals are still capable of finding such fine marines to fight our wars for us.
I too worried about the state of our young just a few years ago
Submitted by stunned on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:50am.
LOL just a few years ago I worried about the state of the nation's young until I was surrounded by them. I was a flaming lib myself when I was young and some of the best times I had were at no-nuke rallies cursing Reagan (God bless him) but I grew out of it. The kids coming up (the 9-11 generation) are not as flaky as we were. The rotten economy, the wars and the radical Islam have made them tougher. The 24/7 media has meant they get more news and hear somem conservative voices (never heard any growing up myself in the 70's besides my parents) that reinforce what they hear at home. Most moms of boys are not raising whimpy boys and will not tolerate whinning from them (though there are always a few exceptions) but we will not tolerate bullies either.
The youth did vote for Obama because they they are trusting at that age and believed what he said, I know a few grown-ups that should have known better who did so too, but they won't be fooled again as my niece's 21 year old boy friend has explained in GREAT detail. (LOL he is not happy with Obama). The young men I know who have served in our armed services, those who are now first responders in police depts (God they are getting younger every day, I have jeans older than some of them) including the NYPD and NYFD who were kids on 9-11 are tough strong young men who have performed wonderfully over the years. I worry more about the 50+ crowd who have the numbers and power to really screw things up.
tired of liberal lies
So, children are intelligent
Submitted by ckc1227 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:51am.
So, children are intelligent enough to discuss the issue of government-run health care, but they aren't capable of understanding why people are celebrating the death of a mass murderer?
Children understand
Submitted by HockeyKid on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 6:44am.
perfectly well the concept of celebrating the triumph of good over evil. Every fairy tale has that component. It's not until they are corrupted by the lib thought police as they grow up that such pantywaist concerns poison their minds.
Matt Lauer and that "psychologist" should be charged with child abuse. They are responsible for instilling the kind of angst that results in teen suicide. They must be stopped. If we can save even one child, it will be worth any price. This is Suicide Prevention Month, after all. When will the madness stop?
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Why are kids confused over joy re OBL's death?? ACA
Submitted by acaiguana on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 6:48am.
Um, because their parents are stupid?
This is called war people. Yes, war. Bin Laden declared war on the United States of America and unleashed his rag-tag army on the Western World and its very foundation; that of Judeo-Christian thought and history.
And in war there is no redemption through a civilized 'process' so loved by the bureaucratic attorneys for the defense nor is there time for the beloved diplomatic processes of our bureaucratic State Department.
In war our brave men and women in uniform swallow their fears and go forth into battle, the purpose of which is to destroy the enemy and reduce their capabilities and their morale.
In war we rejoice when a battle is won and we redouble our efforts when we are attacked on our under-belly of indifference to our enemies and our pampered elitism and pseudo-intellectual masturbation regarding the high ground of appeasement.
This is a war against an evil stalking the earth which knows no bounds.
That is why, my child, people are in the streets cheering the death of another tyrant amid the fight against tyranny over the minds of men.
We are a free people. We fight the good fight.
ACA
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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Actually Matt,
Submitted by wedapeople on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 7:36am.
They are asking me why the President put a bullet into three unarmed peoples skulls, when all they had was a super soaker water gun?
Didn't the President say that Miranda was the law that he follows?
Confused maybe?
Submitted by stunned on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:44pm.
Too busy condemning the EIT that led the CIA to Bin Laden. Now it is really funny to hear libs pontificating on the morality of waterboarding terrorists while praising the killing of terrorists in the next breath. Too bad for them most Americans STILL disagree with them after all these years of hand wringing.
tired of liberal lies
Disturbing?
Submitted by russedav on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:27am.
Now why are these immoral degenerate sadist fascist devils' whores for the antitheist muslim obamanation (www.blackgenocide.org) bothered with that when they aren't in the least bothered by casually butchering their brothers and sisters, born or unborn; the obamanation just wants to be sure there are dirty linen closets in which to throw abortion survivors until they die a ghastly death alone. What nice guys. A mother couldn't be exploited by a nicer pimp.
Ding Dong, the Wicked Witch is Dead!
Submitted by changein2012 on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 8:48am.
What Matt Loser gargabe! Does noone remember 'The Wizard of Oz'? The entire cast of the movie sang and danced at the disintegration and painful death of the witch. I do not recall any catastrophic fallout from that episode!
N(othing) B(ut) C(rap)...
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:55am.
So, Matt Liar and Merrydope Viera are all concerned about how the kiddies will react to Americans cheering the death of mass murderer UBL? This is your typical pile of cow dung from this joke of a network who will hopefully be out of business within 10 years....
This misdirection further serves the Leftist monologues for Obama's Cheerleaders:
- Instead of questioning Professor Pinhead's decision to assassinate UBL, without "mirandizing" him, they turn it on the "cheering hordes"
- Instead of asking the nation if they knew how to "talk to their kids" in 2001 when the video of planes hitting the towers and people jumping to deaths, they balthered on about how Bush kept reading to the kids in Florida, and then was "hiding in Air Force 1"...
- Instead of a modest acknowledgement that rendition and aggressive interrogation works, these ass-clowns preach "tolerance"
If conservatives really had their sh@t together, they would boycott everything on NBC, the shows the products, all of it. And after they are brought to their knees or out of business, then take on CBS. The tripe that these networks are pushing is an outrage.
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Even a child could figure out
Submitted by donabernathy on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:57am.
if you were interested in winning and ending the war on terror.. it might be a good idea to capture rather than kill the guy that knows EVERYTHING. Too bad there aren't more children.
roflmao
How Do We Talk to Our Kids About...?
Submitted by Motormouth KOS on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:58am.
Hitler?
Are we supposed to preach "tolerance"?
Does NBC-you later think we should go and re-write that history too?
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Lauer's Trauma
Submitted by Agnostic on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:58am.
Maybe Matt was traumatized during one of the many 'Fried Bundy"parties that took place back in '89.
3rd World Country Mentality
Submitted by Kimnota on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:12am.
I also found this celebration disturbing. Especially considering these are the same people who boo the military and the very tactics that lead to this action. We're all happy that justice has been served, but no one is freed as a result of Bin Laden's death. Western cultures generally celebrate freedom while 3rd world countries celebrate killings. However, I was never concerned that these kids need to learn open-mindedness or tolerance and about drawing conclusions over how a person looks. These people are despicable. If anything a lesson should be taught about how we should have faced down this man's evil long ago and not let political correctness stand in the way of safety and preserving our values.
Matt baby...you are a freaking joke!
Submitted by Patriot II on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:55am.
Look at your liberal media buddies...and the crap you put on....you don't think kids are traumatized by the murdering of millions of unborn babies? The slaughter, I should say, the mayhem....and of the same on kids being killed by their parents....the result being parents killed by their kids...the murders of innocents by burglars, robbers, thieves of all kinds rapists....you are an ignorant A.H. Matt baby!!!
This story reinforces my belief that...
Submitted by kingsfold on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:55am.
...the left loves the freedom of expression, until it's expression that they don't agree with.
My 7yr old and 10yr old sons watched this segment...
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 12:37pm.
with my wife. She called me and told me about it. She said they were watching the Today show with her before school (bleh, as they always do) and this story came on. She decided to ask them after the story if they were disturbed.
My ten year old replied "Nope, he deserved to die. And I hope I get to play as Seal Team 6 in the next Call of Duty game so I can blow his head off too!!!"
My wife said she told him that was wrong. and he then said "No Mom, what was wrong was flying a plane into two buildings. Two buildings in America, two buildings with Americans that died. That is wrong and he got what he deserved...kapow...a bullet to the head!!!! It's called justice....don't be a wuss!!"
She said my 7 year old chimed in "Heck yeah!!!!" and then they gave each other high fives and ran off yelling "Navy seals rule!!!"
Hee hee hee hee
Submitted by stunned on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 1:38pm.
As a mom of a 12 year old boy I understand you wife's initial concern regarding your son's reaction and warn her it gets worse. LOL I laughed out loud reading his comments as they mirrored the comments of my son and his buddies as I drove the car pool from soccer practice to their boy scout meeting on Tuesday evening. "Double tap, yeah, OK, Hooorah, dunk the junk" ect ect joking galore. So much for the demasculating of young men today hee hee hee it didn't take. Kids out there Sunday night, liberal and conservative, college age and older who flooded the streets and universities to the horror of their much more liberal seniors was a real shock. Our military and seal teams grew up with Bin Laden and they are as fine a group of warriors as any generation has fielded before. Just let her know children still see the world in black and white, good and evil and their reaction was quite normal and moral.
As I posted before these kids grew up the Bin Laden the boogie man and not a single kid over the age of 5 didn't know the name or what 9-11 was even before Sunday. They lived with the knowlege of that man their entire lives as far back as many can remember and by God it was very mentally healthy for them to hear the bastard is dead. At a previous poster noted Ding Dong the Witch is Dead is not a bad thing after all.
tired of liberal lies
Stunned
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:20pm.
Ah, she knows well the minds of boys. We have 3 (13,10,7) and all of them love guns, the army, the marines and anything military really. Being ex military I have pride in them loving it. The 7 and 10 year old are constantly on the military channel watching the documentaries on WW2, Korea and now the Iraq war.
She is very liberal and tries hard to talk to them. She says I brain wash them but I don't. I just answer their questions truthfully. I also tell them when I am giving my opinion rather than fact. I always say there are two sides to a story and find out both before you make up your mind.
I love that they are tough boys who like guns and America. We had the game Homefront for Xbox. It is a game that has the Koreans storming America and putting citizens into work/labor camps, executing kids and other citizens (Great story line really). And my 7 year old was watching my older son and myself play it. He started crying during a scene where the Koreans were forcing Americans into line and making them listen. I told him to leave the room and maybe he shouldn't watch it. He said he was crying because he could never let some one come to America and tell him or his friends what to do...he would rather die. He said it made him sad that those Americans just did as they were told. Then he smiled and said "That's why I'm joining the Marines when I'm 18" and then he ran off to play with his cars.
He makes me proud.
Intersting
Submitted by Scrap Iron in Texas on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 2:43pm.
Interesting, isn't it that only NOW are they worried about how children will take this.
Huh.
I remember watching a movie made in 1938 that had cheering going on for the death of an evil person.
They even made it into a song.
"Ding dong the wutch is dead, Which old witch? The wicked witch. Dind dong the wicked witch is dead'
Ring a bell?
You're not really comparing a
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 9:15pm.
You're not really comparing a real-life event to cheering for the death of a make-believe character in a kid's movie, are you?
Bal, was Osama
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:12pm.
Really more then a cartoon for you?
Considering what kids are watching today
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 10:28pm.
I am sure they can handle a dead Osama
Honestly they see worse on
Submitted by balboa on Thu, 05/05/2011 - 11:09pm.
Honestly they see worse on their xbox. I just think the previous poster's comparison was pointless.
Navybuckeye
Submitted by NavyBuckeye on Fri, 05/06/2011 - 6:47am.
You're not really comparing a real-life event to playing and causing deaths of character in a kid's video game, are you?