CBS's Erica Hill Wonders if Americans Are Being 'Scammed' by Oil Companies
In an interview with former Clinton Labor Secretary Robert Reich on Monday's CBS Early Show, co-host Erica Hill wondered if higher gas prices in the wake of Mideast unrest were the result of some sort of fraud: "We've seen prices skyrocket....Is the public right to feel taken advantage of in some ways here, or even scammed?"
Even the liberal Reich didn't accept the premise: "Well look, a lot of this is supply and demand. The country can feel a certain sense of taken advantage of. But some of this is the demand that's coming from China. I mean, you have developing nations all over the world....And their oil needs are very high. And so they are also putting pressure on oil prices. It's not just the Middle East."
Hill's suggestion of some price-increasing conspiracy by oil companies mirrored NBC reporter Tom Costello, on Friday's Today, alluding to the Watergate scandal as he spoke of Americans being "increasingly suspicious of the oil companies."
Hill never identified Reich as liberal or even informed viewers that he served in Bill Clinton's administration. She simply introduced him as an "economist and former U.S. Labor Secretary" and promoted his latest book: "...also the author of 'Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future.'" At the top of the show, fellow co-host Chris Wragge touted Reich as "one of the nation's leading economists."
Earlier in the interview, Reich warned of the damaging effect higher gas prices could have on the economy: "Americans are still trying to get out of the gravitational pull of the great recession....And so, the higher gas prices at the pump undoubtedly are going to be a blow. It's not going to dramatically slow down the recovery. But it could definitely slow it down." On Sunday's Face the Nation, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman actually called for taxes to keep gas at $4 per gallon indefinitely, even while acknowledging the economic damage it could do.
Here is a full transcript of Hill's March 7 interview with Reich:
ERICA HILL: Joining us this morning from Berkeley, California, is economist and former U.S. Labor Secretary Robert Reich, who is also the author of 'Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future.' Good to have you with us this morning. As we just heard from [business and economics correspondent] Rebecca [Jarvis]-
ROBERT REICH: Good morning, Erica.
HILL: Good morning – she laid out that picture pretty well for us. The President can, of course, tap into these reserves. But if there is enough supply, as she pointed out, from an economic perspective, does it make sense to do this?
REICH: It probably makes sense to do it, or at least to suggest that he will do it to effect the price of oil futures. But I'll tell you, Americans are still trying to get out of the gravitational pull of the great recession, Erica. And so, the higher gas prices at the pump undoubtedly are going to be a blow. It's not going to dramatically slow down the recovery. But it could definitely slow it down.
HILL: And that perception may help a little bit. Libya, as we've talked about a number of times on this program, is the 18th largest oil producer. 18th. But we've seen prices skyrocket, as we just heard from Rebecca. Is the public right to feel taken advantage of in some ways here, or even scammed?
REICH: Well look, a lot of this is supply and demand. The country can feel a certain sense of taken advantage of. But some of this is the demand that's coming from China. I mean, you have developing nations all over the world who are coming out of the recession much faster than the United States and Europe. And their oil needs are very high. And so they are also putting pressure on oil prices. It's not just the Middle East.
HILL: Let's turn now and look at this latest jobs report. On Friday the Labor Department reporting that 192,000 jobs were added. Unemployment dipped to 8.9%. This had a very positive response it seemed. But you are a little bit more measured when you look at this and to you the headline here is not necessarily the jobs but the wages. Talk to us a little bit about that.
[ON-SCREEN HEADLINE: Employment Outlook; Reich: Mixed Messages From Job Numbers]
REICH: Well, 192,000 new jobs is very good. Let's not, you know, let's not say that this is a bad trend. This is a good trend. One of the problems, however, is that the new jobs we're creating, if you look at the 1.2 million new jobs created over the last year, those jobs, in general, are paying less than the 8 million jobs we've lost between 2008 and 2009, and the beginning of 2010.
And so the long-term trend is troubling. The long-term trend, Erica, is lower and lower wages and benefits. I mean you see it, a lot of people have had to give wage concessions to their employers, or provide give-backs, or say, 'Okay, we'll take a higher co-payments, deductibles on our health insurance. We don't want to, you know, we won't take quite as much pension. Or you don't have to contribute quite as much pension. Or we will be fired and we'll go on as a contract worker, and we'll do pretty much what we were doing before, but we won't have any of the benefits we had before.' And this is the story that's going on much around America, and has been going on for years now. But, the great recession accelerated it.
HILL: And the concern there, of course, is that it's really hard to come back from that. Appreciate your insight this morning. Thanks for being with us.
REICH: Thanks, Erica.
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Yes, Erica
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 5:07pm.
We're getting scammed in the same way we save batteries for emergencies.
You may call it "speculation" but the airlines do it to lock in a future price of fuel. Are you suggesting they pull up to the pump at a daily prevailing rate also?
Oh Erica
Submitted by joer43 on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 5:21pm.
Just think about it.
If gas companies were really "price fixing" and all working as one single entity, in some sort of NWO fashion, all the while aware that even w/out government regulation, the barrier of entry to someone who could break up this hypothetical price fix is too high, then why has a politician not simply capped the price?
It's the biggest softball ever when it comes to scoring points w/ your electorate. If companies are really scamming us at $3.50-$3.60 / gal, why not just cap them at $2.50-$3.00 / gal?
Because anyone who actually studies the issue will clearly see the price companies charge for gas are a direct function of what they pay to produce a product that they can sell. Yet another false boogeyman, claim oil is a big, evil monopoly, all the while the real monopoly over our lives (government, like the teacher's union) is being praised in the media.
Pure crap.
Don't worry, Erica, if
Submitted by Van Halen on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 5:22pm.
Don't worry, Erica, if Americans are being scammed by evil corporate BIG OIL, Obama - defender of the common man - will do something about it.
HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! ha ha ha hahhahahahahahahahahhaaaa!!!!!!!
to keep a rough but accurate
Submitted by jkwtrading on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 5:27pm.
to keep a rough but accurate account of gas costs.. take the current future price and add 80 cents... the govenrment gets 50 cents and oil companies the remainder. The oil companies get about 30 cents a gallon, to find the oil, haul it, refine it and then deliver the stuff.. the government as usual does nothing but collect the cash and use for the idiots of the country..
LOL. Nah, it's GW Bush's
Submitted by Smartypants on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 5:27pm.
LOL. Nah, it's GW Bush's "oil buddies" who are messing everything up!
When Bush was in office and gas prices jumped up, the media could not wait to blame him directly for the problem. With Obama in charge, it's all about directing blame anywhere but the White House. If GW Bush had the power to control gas and oil prices, then surely President Obama enjoys the same ability now, doesn't he?
Big oil.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 6:00pm.
aren't half the scam that the lame stream media are.
Of Geese and Ganders
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 6:02pm.
I recall that Obama incessantly blamed the Bush/Oil Company Cabal for the rise in pump prices! So.....wouldn't it be fair to apply the exact same rubric to this crisis, or would fairness be expecting too much??
"Speculators"
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 6:11pm.
It's funny how even so called "conservatives" tend to jump the shark and blame speculators for the price of crude oil. I was listenning to Glenn Beck's guest host today, I think it was someone named Paglia or "Pags" or something like that. I've heard him before and he's pretty good. At the end of the show, he got on a binge about how oil shouldn't be traded on the "stock market". His contention was that because Libya only produces 2% of the worlds oil, it's unrealistic that the price of crude oil has gone up 20%.
His solution was to ban oil from trading on the "stock market", (he meant futures markets, of coruse), and somehow that would eliminate wild price moves in crude oil. "Let supply and demand dictate the price!", he would say.
A couple of callers tried to point out that "Pags" had lost his free market way, but he would have no part of it. His plan to eliminate private individuals from buying and selling future contracts to deliver crude oil was not the heavy hand of government, but free markets at their best!
The price of gas a the pumps is the first thing to bring out the populist in a lot of ignorant conservatives.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Arrghhhh!
Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 6:19pm.
What utter blather that is. The reason futures are traded is RISK!
That's why Southwest Airlines has been so successful. They have had enough cash on hand to heavily invest in the futures market when the prices are favorable to them. They have a great business model, and have been able to leverage their free cash flow to continue to be the best at what they do.
And I have to laugh at the rest of "Pags" ingnorant rant. The price at the pump is only a few cents over what the wholesaler's are charging the retailer. The spot on the wholesalers' price often changes several times during the day (I know, I used to do accounting for a small oil company and dealt with the wholesalers at the port).
Nice rant, Kingfish. Excellent, in fact.
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Shhhhh Go back to sleep
Submitted by both-sides on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 7:29pm.
---Never question the most powerful and wealthy entities that control congress.
Just always assume they are doing great things for America. They are, and never question it.---
this message was brought to you by big oil which would like to remind you to oppose any ideas of high speed rail as it is not good for our bottom line. only communists like trains.
About Time!
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 7:39pm.
I'm glad to see you're waking up regarding the corruption of union money.
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
Big Oil controls Congress,
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 9:04pm.
so much so that everyone of their petitions to build a new refinery is shot down.
Please read the financials for the oil companies you can find on line. It is doubtful many would fully understand them, I know I don't, but at least you may come away with a more realistic idea about where the oil companies spend their money and why they get their subsidies. I don't necessarily agree with it all but to say they control Congress borders on 'Insane Conspiracy Theory'. I don't think environmentalist groups control Congress but if you look at the actual actions of Congress you would see they side with environmentalist groups far more often then "Big Oil".
Americans are being scammed by the Obama administration
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 8:48pm.
Yet 26 months into the screw, most still can't seem to wrap their minds around that obvious fact.
They are too busy watching American Idol.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
When did one of the
Submitted by UpNorth on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 9:16pm.
newcomer trolls become the shill for "high speed" rail? Two-faced, are you saying that "high speed" rail is the answer to everything? Would that be moving freight, or moving commuters?
And, just out of curiosity, where and who will generate the electricity necessary to power "high speed" rail? And how, natural gas(big oil), coal, nuclear energy? Or will each "high speed" train have a windmill on it's roof, or solar panels? Just curious, as you don't really seem to know anything about "high speed" rail, trains, electricity, or just about anything else you expound on. But, in some simplistic way, you are amusing.
Gosh, Erica...
Submitted by johnsonl on Mon, 03/07/2011 - 10:02pm.
...ya think? Maybe if you descended from the elitist heights and filled your own gas tank or bought a gallon of milk, you'd realize just how much "scamming" is done to people who make a lot less money than you do. We're called "most Americans". We do our own shopping, cut our own lawns, clean our own houses and work on our own cars, when we can. That's reality. You should try it sometime.
Good for CBS. They obviously
Submitted by Cowboy on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 12:25am.
Good for CBS. They obviously hire the mentally handicapped.
big oil! big oil! ... I've seen this movie
Submitted by wizardjr on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 4:07am.
It doesn't turn out well for libtards.
How many times will we have to do this "Big Oil" Kabuki? We've done this myriad times and each and every time Congress comes back (quietly) with the unsurprising fact that the market dictates the price. duh.
This is just the distraction parade trying to steer folks away from Obumble's horrible energy policy. The gas prices MUST be anyone's fault but Sir Golfsalot. "It's racism I tell ya... racism!" Not to worry though. We've discovered a whole supply of dilithium crystals on the MGM back lot. As soon as we collect enought unicorn farts to intialize them we'll have free clean energy for all!! In the mean time stock in some candles and a camp stove. Just in case, ya know.
Why did Palin Tell Exxon to drill or give up their leases?
Submitted by Funbowhunter on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 9:29am.
Nah, wouldn't be because Oil companies are manipulating the market.
Oil Lease
Submitted by Kingfish17 on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 11:31am.
If a state government grants an oil lease, shouldn't the original language of the lease require some sort of exploration and drilling take place?
If a state government grants a lease that requires no drilling, what exactly is correct about a governor unilaterally breaking that lease outside of the courts? If Obama did that, wouldn't we call that statism?
"You can’t go take a trip to Las Vegas...on the taxpayer’s dime." Barack Obama
STUPID, IDIOTIC BROAD!!!!
Submitted by Patriot II on Tue, 03/08/2011 - 11:27am.
Why is it these brainless bimbos have their mouth open and brain shut, constantly!!! You bimbos are being scammed by a gutless flake of a prez that won't allow oil drilling when we have more that the rest of the world combined and if thats not enough, the fraudulent scumbag has reduced production...................blame that on the oil companies you idiot!!!! imo
She's unintelligible, anyway...
Submitted by mfm.droid on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 2:51pm.
Well, unless I turn my hearingaide way up I can never make out a word she says over that loud background roaring of the wind whistling through her empty head...On the other hand...
Submitted by mfm.droid on Wed, 03/09/2011 - 2:59pm.
On the other hand, the same thing happens when I try to listen to Klugman, Overdork, The (appropriately named) Rachel Madcow, and President StinkyBO (at least, according to Mrs Stinky, mornings..[wink]). Funny, seems brain-removal is a requirement for buy-in of Progies Ideas...