CBS Hypes: 'Doctors Who Perform Abortions Fear for Their Lives'
On Tuesday's CBS Evening News, anchor Katie Couric warned of violence against abortion doctors, based flyers being circulated by a pro-life group: "Their pictures are showing up on posters. Now doctors who perform abortions fear for their lives." The posters in question did not call for any violence whatsoever.
Despite that fact, Couric later introduced the story by declaring: "Now some doctors in North Carolina...fear they're being marked for murder." Correspondent Michelle Miller reported: "They look like wanted posters from the wild west, but they're not photos of criminals, but of doctors in North Carolina who perform abortions." She noted how the doctors in question "asked us to block their faces." In dramatic fashion, a doctor with a blurred face and altered voice argued: "It doesn't say 'wanted dead or alive,' but the implication is very clearly there."
Miller went on to explain: "This doctor is one of the targets. Fearing for his life, he asked to remain anonymous." She then wondered: "Are you ever looking over your shoulder?" Miller then portrayed the pro-life group behind the posters as menacing: "Those responsible for the flyers – Operation Save America – repeatedly protest abortions at women's health clinics in the Charlotte area, claiming the doctors harm women and kill babies. They list specific addresses and urge people to contact doctors there. One poster even cites a home address." The unidentified doctor proclaimed: "These wanted posters are a call for my murder."
Attempting to draw a connection between the flyers and past murders of abortion doctors, Miller pointed out: "In the 1990s, similar flyers were distributed in other cities. Then came the murders. In 1993, Pensacola Dr. David Gunn and Dr. George Patterson in Alabama. Dr. John Britton was gunned down a year later in Florida. All were targets of the wanted poster campaign." A sound bite followed from Katherine Spillar, executive vice president of the left-wing pro-abortion group Feminist Majority Foundation: "We know what the pattern has been year after year. Wanted poster, murder. Wanted poster, murder. We need tough prosecution before more doctors are murdered."
Miller did provide some time to Operation Save America founder Flip Benham, but only to level accusations against him: "So do you think these incite violence?"
Near the end of the story, Miller went back to the anonymous doctor, replaying an earlier sound bit of him claiming "The posters are meant to call for my murder." Miller asserted: "They're just putting out the bait." The doctor replied: "They're putting out the bait, they're putting out the call, and hoping somebody will respond." Miller concluded: "Women's rights groups have called for the Justice Department to investigate the posters, fearing history could repeat itself."
Here is a full transcript of the segment:
6:30PM ET TEASE:
KATIE COURIC: Their pictures are showing up on posters. Now doctors who perform abortions fear for their lives.
6:42PM ET TEASE:
COURIC: But up next, doctors who perform abortions showing up on wanted posters.
6:44PM ET SEGMENT:
COURIC: Abortion remains one of the most divisive issues in this country. Now some doctors in North Carolina who perform them fear they're being marked for murder. Michelle Miller reports on the posters and flyers that are appearing throughout the state.
MICHELLE MILLER: They look like wanted posters from the wild west, but they're not photos of criminals, but of doctors in North Carolina who perform abortions. They asked us to block their faces.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: It doesn't say 'wanted dead or alive,' but the implication is very clearly there.
MILLER: This doctor is one of the targets. Fearing for his life, he asked to remain anonymous. Are you ever looking over your shoulder?
MAN: I'm always looking over my shoulder. I know they know my car, I know they know my face. They've put these posters in my neighborhood.
MILLER: Those responsible for the flyers – Operation Save America – repeatedly protest abortions at women's health clinics in the Charlotte area, claiming the doctors harm women and kill babies. They list specific addresses and urge people to contact doctors there. One poster even cites a home address.
MAN: These wanted posters are a call for my murder.
MILLER: In the 1990s, similar flyers were distributed in other cities. Then came the murders. In 1993, Pensacola Dr. David Gunn and Dr. George Patterson in Alabama. Dr. John Britton was gunned down a year later in Florida. All were targets of the wanted poster campaign. Dr. George Tiller, seen on this flier, survived an assassination attempt in 1993, but was killed inside his church last year.
KATHERINE SPILLAR [EXECUTIVE VP, FEMINIST MAJORITY FOUNDATION]: We know what the pattern has been year after year. Wanted poster, murder. Wanted poster, murder. We need tough prosecution before more doctors are murdered.
MILLER: So do you think these incite violence?
FLIP BENHAM [OPERATION SAVE AMERICA]: No, I don't at all. As a matter of fact, many of these have met Christ.
MILLER: Flip Benham founded Operation Save America and says the new posters are not threatening.
BENHAM: If you read the writing in there, it's 'wanted by Christ.' We want them to meet Jesus.
MILLER: Federal law makes it a crime to use force or even the threat of force to prevent people from accessing clinics like this one. In 2002, a U.S. appeals court ruled that wanted posters like these were a violation of that law.
JAN CRAWFORD: The decision back in 2002 only affects that region and that area. It doesn't affect the posters in Charlotte that are at issue now.
MAN: The posters are meant to call for my murder.
MILLER: They're just putting out the bait.
MAN: They're putting out the bait, they're putting out the call, and hoping somebody will respond.
MILLER: Women's rights groups have called for the Justice Department to investigate the posters, fearing history could repeat itself. Michelle Miller, CBS News, Charlotte.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center. You can follow him on Twitter here.
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So what? We're all just
Submitted by mattm on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:50am.
So what? We're all just blobs of protoplasm whose ancestors emerged from a swamp billions of years ago. There are no absolutes; no right or wrong, no "god." It's survival of the fittest. If these abortionists are killed, so what? There's more of them graduating from med school all the time. None of this is ever going to matter. In another billion years, the human race will have been made obsolete by some higher form of life, so why worry about any of this? Nothing matters.
(Sorry about that folks, for a minute there, I thought I was a liberal)
No, that was perfect. Their
Submitted by Thoreau on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:03am.
No, that was perfect. Their relativistic humanism brought to it's own logical conclusion.
Blobs of protoplasm, or a rose
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:12am.
No diff, it's all in the name of consumption.
Why stop at 3 months?
Submitted by SparkyInVA on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 7:50am.
We can abort our offspring because of mental anguish, because we don't want them, or because it would be too inconvienent. I find that very liberating!
But why should the government stop us when they are only a few months from conception? I would argue, a screaming 2 year old is just as inconvient. The government has no intrest in our children until they start paying taxes, so it follows that abortion should be allowed up to the age of 18!
You may call it murder, but it is not. It is just me changing my mind, and that is my right!
Wow, being a liberal just for a minute is just like being on drugs...
Sin
Submitted by seven on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:51am.
I suspect many criminals feel paranoid.
Ziiiiing!
Submitted by Eugenia on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:49pm.
This site really should have a "like" option. :)
Brilliantly said, Sin.
+1
Submitted by Soldat44 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:13pm.
+1
How is an abortionist a MD? Please esplain to stoopids..
Submitted by Thoreau on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:59am.
For somebody to be called a "Medical Doctor", you have to uphold this oath:
"I swear by God(was god's back then) to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath and agreement:
To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art.
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.
I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.
But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.
I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.
In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.
All that may come to my knowledge in the exercise of my profession or in daily commerce with men, which ought not to be spread abroad, I will keep secret and will never reveal.
If I keep this oath faithfully, may I enjoy my life and practice my art, respected by all men and in all times; but if I swerve from it or violate it, may the reverse be my lot."
It's really really hard to miss what this means unless you are brain damaged or a communist/liberal.
Don't pretend you have doctor's terminating fetus's. You have killers terminating fetus's. Own what it is that you do. Be proud! If you build a better gas chamber, show the World and let out a mighty Yawp!
But when you kill instead of cure, then you are a killer. Not a Doctor. And killer's live by a different set of rules than the rest of us. Don't QQ and whine when you're driveway is paved in unborn blood.
Just imagine...
Submitted by c5then on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:03am.
How would the babies feel if they knew...
What kind of society do we live in when doctors who kill babies for profit can't even have their pictures posted in public?
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Ha ha ha
Submitted by griv on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:09am.
I say let em be afraid. Be VERY AFRAID. Ha ha ha ha.
A womb with a view
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:32am.
Shouldn't that be...
BABIES IN WOMBS OF LIBERAL WOMEN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES?
And with good reason!
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Many great comments here...
Submitted by retrocon on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:40pm.
But i really think Jack has the thread winner here!
I'm reminded of what Jesus said:
Submitted by stage9 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:33am.
"Their pictures are showing up on posters. Now doctors who perform abortions fear for their lives."
"And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell." -- Matthew 10:28
In other words it's one thing to be afraid of those who will take your life, but what about God who will require your soul from you due to the fact that you murdered millions of innocent lives for profit? That is who you should really fear.
The one thing about abortion mills is that everything is done in the dark and in secret. Whenever pictures of aborted fetuses are shown on posters or websites, everyone looks away in disgust. It's difficult to stomach the brutality of the imagery. But that imagery is the cold hard reality of abortion. It IS heinous. It IS barbaric. It IS disgusting. And that IS the point.
We assume that if we could just hide it away, push it out of view and sanitize the brutal reality of this sickening procedure with words like "choice" and "women's health" that somehow we can go on living. But the problem is that when you sanitize barbarism you wind up becoming complicit with its evil.
Should folks plaster these doctors' images on posters? I wouldn't, but if anything, it does say one thing, that you can't hide from your sins. They will always find you out.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
I dont understand what you
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:09pm.
I dont understand what you are complaining about here newsbusters. Are you saying that these wanted posters are not threatening and that there hasn't been a history of violence against doctors who do abortions?
The comments on this article is doing a good job of proving the point CBS was making.
The problem is...
Submitted by stage9 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:41pm.
that liberals have always tried to draw a comparison between the right and violence.
In our schools they tell us that the lives of homosexuals are at risk of roving homophobic gangs bent on killing homosexual students.
In New York they tell us that mosque opponents are endangering the lives of islamists.
With the Tea Party movement, the left has raised fears of Tea Partiers turning into racist mobs bent on dissolving government altogether and instituting a theocratic society.
With guns rights, liberals have sounded the alarm that unless guns are outlawed angry white militias will rise up and start a war.
Unless white Americans are controlled, liberals are afraid that they might assassinate President Obama because he's black.
On, and on, and on, and on, and on...it goes...year after year the left spews its lying propaganda infusing fear and divisiveness into the culture. And yet, none of this has ever materialized.
Fear is the tactic of the left that has worked very well, but it's becoming tired.
I don't think anyone is suggesting violence against abortion doctors. They are simply drawing the conclusion that 1) you can't justify the murder of one group and then suddenly become all "moral" with another, and 2) if you're going to be in the business of murder, don't be surprised if some kook somewhere, one day decides to act in like fashion.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Someone is clearly suggesting
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:59pm.
Someone is clearly suggesting violence against abortion doctors. There is no other logical conclusion to draw from those wanted posters. And there is a history of violence against abortion doctors. I really don't understand how that is "liberal bias". It's a fact.
And you are suggesting violence: "if you're going to be in the business of murder, don't be surprised if some kook somewhere, one day decides to act in like fashion." Stay classy.
Good evening gunnar
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:13pm.
You forgot to mention the violence committed by abortion doctors against millions of human babies.
You are promoting violence against the most defenseless of human beings. Very classy of you.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I didn't forget anything. I
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:17pm.
I didn't forget anything. I don't equate abortion with murder. And even if I did it wouldn't change the point I made, or the fact that there is no "liberal bias" in this CBS report. The threat against abortion doctors are very much real. And these wanted posters are threatening.
gunnar
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:29pm.
Great liberal twisting and redefining there. Killing a defenseless human being is not murder. Sounds like the musings of a thoughtless person to me.Take off your blinders and open your mind to reality.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I don't understand how I
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:36pm.
I don't understand how I twisted or redefined anything. Everything I have written here has been consistent.
gunnar
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:44pm.
You say abortion is not murder.
Murder is the killing of a defenseless innocent human being. Abortion is the killing of a defenseless innocent human being. They are one and the same.
You are redefining murder as something else and you are twisted.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
There is no official
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:50pm.
There is no official definition of murder that includes abortions. If you want to equate abortion with murder then that is up to you, but I don't have to.
I really don't care if you think I'm twisted and I don't see how that is relevant to anything I wrote. Keep your personal attacks to yourself.
"There is no official
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:37pm.
"There is no official definition of murder that includes abortions. If you want to equate abortion with murder then that is up to you, but I don't have to..."
....................................
Gunnar - I don't need a dictionary to identify murder when I see it. Yesterday my wife and I had our very first ultrasound of our first baby. Seeing its little black and white image on the screen and hearing that whoosh! of it's little heartbeat, I simply can't imagine feeling any more love for or protective of another human being than I instantly felt for my child in that moment. Your comments evoked a visceral feeling in me that I've never felt before. Can you please explain to me how someone could react and/or feel this way over something that you insist isn't even alive?
I haven't suggested that it
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:48pm.
I haven't suggested that it isn't even alive. All I have said is that I don't equate abortion with murder. How could i possibly explain your feelings? I'm not a mindreader.
Um...What?
Submitted by ML Stovall on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:02pm.
Haven't you? Because if you do say that it is alive then, by definition, you are admitting that abortion is murder.
No something being alive and
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:19pm.
No something being alive and something being a self aware being is not the same. I'm not saying that scratching your arm is murder because you kill cells by doing so for example. That doesn't mean that I think the cells aren't alive. That is of course not the same as abortion but just an example.
So we can scratch a person
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 5:59pm.
So we can scratch a person and render it liefeless at any time. After all you are just a collection of cells ... right? And from what you have posted dont show much intelegnce, so taht blows your argument of being self aware. I personally dont believe you are alive or self aware.
Isnt that teh argument you just posited? Because you dont believe the baby is alive and a human being or self aware then it is ok to kill it?
The cell example I used was
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 6:13pm.
The cell example I used was to illustrate that destroying something that is alive is not the same as murder. It was a response to the claim that if I think a fetus is alive then I must think abortion is murder. Which was first set up by the bizarre strawman that I don't think fetuses are alive.
I don't really understand what is confusing about my position. I'm saying that there is a difference in terminating something that is self aware and able to live on its own and something that is not. I don't care if you disagree with that, I just don't understand how much clearer I can make it.
Then accept the consequences
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 7:47pm.
Following your logic: to kill an abortion doctor is not murder. That is quite a twist indeed. Neither the word innocent nor the word defenseless play a role in the legal definition of murder. If you want to get philosophical you can even doubt whether "human being" belongs there. It is of course easy to accuse someone of redefining the meaning of a word by contrasting it with your own subjective and narrow definition.
How many abortion doctors have been murdered?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:32pm.
Cite us a hard number, since you seem to think that it's enough to worry about.
And then, just for fun, cite us the statistic for how many people have been murdered in, say, the course of armed robbery.
Then we'll have a basis for discussion.
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Are you serious? Because
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:39pm.
Are you serious? Because there has been many murders in the world the doctors that are pictured on these wanted posters should not feel threatened? If these aren't threatening posters then what exactly is the implication of "wanted" in your opinion?
Yes I am
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:47pm.
I am seriously serious.
You say "many"? I say how many? Let's narrow the scope a little bit. How many abortion doctors have been murdered by pro-lifers in the United States in the last ten years? That's specific enough.
Now, answer that before I answer your questions.
That's how it works here.
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Good evening Blonde
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:53pm.
You want a specific answer to a specific question from a liberal? You might be serious but you're setting your sights very high.
Jesus loved you so much He died for you.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
I have answered every
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:59pm.
I have answered every question so far so I don't understand what you are trying to say here.
gunnar
Submitted by cocodrie on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:05pm.
You answer every specific question with twisted logic and generalities. I'm saying that you are sidestepping the truth and denying the obvious. You are a liberal and "can't handle the truth".
Abortion is murder and you are denying the truth.
Jesus loved you so much He died for you
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
You are not making any sense.
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:11pm.
You are not making any sense. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean that they are using "twisted logic and generalities".
I didn't say that there has
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:57pm.
I didn't say that there has been "many" murders on abortion doctors. I answered your logic that because there has been murders in armed robberies, then these doctors shouldnt feel threatened. Just because there has been many murders in the world that doesn't mean that these doctors aren't right in feeling threatened by these posters. I don't have the numbers and it is not relevant to any point I made. If you are that interested you can look it up yourself. All I ever said is that there has been a history of murders against abortion doctors, and that these are threatening posters.
How do you murder on someone, Gunnar?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:00pm.
Or is that only in Level 15?
You had nothing better to say
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:04pm.
You had nothing better to say but you commented anyway huh?
No, I had something better to say, but I was saving it:
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:06pm.
"Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance around the facts."
SoL....send the paramedics
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:30pm.
I'm dying of laughter here. Dude! You're killing me.
And while they're at it, maybe they can fix my posts....any time I try to indent everything goes "paflooey".
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Just don't tell me you're "braying" with laughter, B
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:45pm.
ps, have PMs went paflooey, too? Never got it.
Silly, I'm not Sarah Jessica
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:49pm.
It was the pm from yesterday, which I see you got, as you answered it. I wish they'd put the notifications back, I always forget to check.
Alas, another nOOb here, I would buy him an original thought if I could......alas!
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SJP is a donkey?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:01pm.
I thought she was a Palomino!
We'll have fun with this one, if it lasts.
I'm sure you've seen this....
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:22pm.
Sarah Jessica Parker Looks Like a Horse.
As to the nOOb, we shall see if he sticks around. Seems like he's pretty earnest, so I'm retracting the claws. For now.
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Blonde...SoL,,,,is that ....
Submitted by ww thumper on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 5:19pm.
Is that "Screaming out Loud " or just Something out of Luck?....just wondering. ;-)
That guy sounds like ADK or a close relative...maby Naws or some other Troll... :-) WW
MY PASTOR SAYS "GOD BLESS AMERICA"!!!I ASK " GOD SAVE AMERICA, AND RESTORE OUR AMERICAN HONOR!"
No, you didn't
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:28pm.
You don't answer my "logic"....you need to answer my question. How many abortion doctors have been murdered? I ask you this, because you seem to be so concerned that they are being threatened with murder. In fact, I would go so far as to suggest you didn't even bother to read the article at all, because: 1) As motherbelt points out, the number of abortion doctors murdered in the nineties was pointed out in the article (you could have referred to that instead of doing a google search);2) The article further states that the posters state "Wanted by Jesus".
Finally, you don't seem to understand how you, as being on the pro-abortionist side of the aisle need to argue here. You made your point, I countered with a question asking you to clarify your point as a basis for further discussion. You clarify with a real number (or a real cite, complete with the neat little linky thing). Citing "many" or "I answered your logic" doesn't cut it here. Nor does "if you're interested look it up yourself" cut the mustard. You are the one trying to make the point that the abortionists are correct in feeling threatened....you need to prove why when challenged. I suggest you get back to work, instead of tossing around generalities here. RICH TEXT EDITOR HAS GONE INSANE TODAY....ANYONE ELSE HAVING ISSUES?Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
I read it. The number of
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:36pm.
I read it. The number of doctors were never part of any point I made. All I said is that they are justified in feeling threatened by these posters as that seems to be the point of them. And similar posters has potentially led to murders before. How is that hard to get?
So what do you think is the implication of "wanted by jesus"?
Wanted by Jesus
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:54pm.
I think the makers of the posters wish to force the doctors in question to consider the morality of their choice to perform abortions and kill unborn babies.
You seem to be far more concerned about a couple of doctors being offed than by tens of millions of innocent babies being offed.
If these doctors are worried for their lives, it's obvious to me that they understand the perception that what they are doing for profit, I might add, is immoral.
I really don't care if they feel threatened. If they're that worried, they can do a couple of things. They can use some of their blood money to buy iron clad security, or better yet....they can quit performing abortions.
How hard is that to understand?
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
So you are saying that their
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:07pm.
So you are saying that their lives are threatened but we shouldn't care because they are evil. Fair enough.
I am against murders personally and I don't see any bias in this CBS segment about the threats abortions doctors are facing. They are justified in feeling threatened and I would feel threatened to if I was targeted in any of the posters. And that was all I ever said. I guess the bias in your eyes is that anyone who doesn't equate abortion with murder is evil.
Is that what I said?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:28pm.
Hardly. Quit trying to ascribe motives to me that aren't there.
The CBS segment was quite biased in that they didn't allow the makers of the posters to make their own point. CBS tried to frame the issue and then only allowed the poster makers to defend.
That is bias.
Again, you are trying to put words onto my fingertips. Don't do that. If you want to know what I think, just ask me. I'll be happy to tell you.
I've been kind and civil to you because you are new here, and unlike most pro-abortion people we get here, you seem to be really trying not to flame throw, etc.
You'll find NB to be a great site, but when you are advised not to generalize, etc...it's a good idea to take that advice. Contrary to popular opinion, we do enjoy a contrary pov.
You've done well with your first attempt here, and I'm sure you'll learn to do better.
Finally, welcome to the boards.
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"Many" is not a citation, now is it?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:49pm.
Now get off your butt and present some facts.
This isn't a video game here, Gunnar.
A video game?
Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 1:52pm.
ROTFL. :)
p.s. check your pm.
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the number is right there in
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:09pm.
the number is right there in the news story:
MILLER: In the 1990s, similar flyers were distributed in other cities. Then came the murders. In 1993, Pensacola Dr. David Gunn and Dr. George Patterson in Alabama. Dr. John Britton was gunned down a year later in Florida. All were targets of the wanted poster campaign. Dr. George Tiller, seen on this flier, survived an assassination attempt in 1993, but was killed inside his church last year. Three in 1993-1994. One in 2009. While murder is never acceptable, that's hardly a holocaust of abortion providers. Does no one consider that if it took them 16 years to "get" Dr. Tiller, perhaps these posters are not very effective?They did in fact "get" George
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:14pm.
They did in fact "get" George Tiller so I would say they have been way to effective. And considering that people have actually been killed after being on similar posters I think these doctors are very justified in being scared for their life.
all ratio*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 2:28pm.
50 million dead babies in 40 yrs and 4 dead Drs. Interesting ratio. And the twisted lib logic sees photographs as threatening.
Muslim radicals call for the destruction of this country.
Then the bombings on 9-11.
A terrorist pleads guilty and in court says that 9-11 was "the first drop of blood"
An Imam on national tv says that "one day a muslim flag will fly over the white house".
But if anyone feels "nervous" around these people, they are called bigots and suffer from Islamaphobia.
Dude not surprising that he cant see a real threat but is fearful of violence from a photographs.
It's too bad
Submitted by Patriot II on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:53pm.
those doctors don't fear for the babies lives! They will one day stand before the God of creation to attempt to defend their actions..........good luck! YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT! There is NO defense for murdering unborn (and in some cases) born babies imho!!
No surprise here. Couric has
Submitted by Soldat44 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:15pm.
No surprise here. Couric has a picture of Margaret Sanger hanging in her office.
You'd think...
Submitted by retrocon on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 4:09pm.
You'd think that Gunner and the other "abortion is not murder" liberals would be a little curious about why Sanger created planned parenthood, and advocated all the various birth control methods, and whether abortion was or was not distasteful to her.
Ironically, she knew it was killing, and not originally part of her eugenics program. She said, "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong way—no matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer way ... because life had not yet begun."
Get that libbers, Sanger wanted to rid the world of genetically inferior humans, but even she saw abortion as murder. So, Planned Parenthood started as a way to implement a policy of eugenics through birth control, and became a way of promoting eugenics through murder, even by the standards of one of it's founders.
Why do liberals deny both the eugenics aspect of the program, and the nature of the means of implementing it?
Revisionist history?
I have never heard of Sanger
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 12:24pm.
I have never heard of Sanger and she has nothing to do with my position so your argument doesn't make any sense. You can't just try to associate me with random people that I have no connection with and ask why I'm not curious about their position. No I am not curious about her position. Why would I be? She has nothing to do with me or my position.
Trying to connect abortions with eugenics is just retarded. Ironic that you talk about revisionist history.
The only thing retarded here is you
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 12:30pm.
Sanger has everything to do with your position. She was a eugenicist. She was a driving force behind PP. You agree with abortion, thus eugenics, and you support PP. Get it yet?
Ever wonder why 80% of PP clinics are in minority neighborhoods?
No she has nothing to do with
Submitted by gunnar1234 on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 3:07pm.
No she has nothing to do with my position. How could she when I have never heard of her? Doesn't matter if she has anything to do with PP. Her thoughts on any subject still has nothing to do with my thoughts. I don't understand how that can possibly be hard for you to understand.
The idea of equating abortions with eugenics is new to me. Needless to say I don't think it makes any sense. And I don't support eugenics.
Don't fear us mere mortals
Submitted by Tom in NC on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 3:42pm.
If you so-called doctors fear anyone it should be the Lord, you are murdering his children before they even take their first breath of air or even see the light of day. There is a special place for you in Hell and your reservation is waiting.
Let's play the gunnartard game
Submitted by ckc1227 on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 4:14pm.
I don't consider killing abortion doctors murder. It's more like taking out the trash. Just because you kill a few cells when you scratch your arm doesn't mean it's murder. And just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I'm using twisted logic.
Oh please,
Submitted by Kansasgirl on Thu, 10/28/2010 - 5:56pm.
who exactly is losing their lives, the Doctors or the fetuses?
They have it all wrong. It is the 'unborn' babies who ...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 10/29/2010 - 2:54am.
should be fearing for their lives. What happened to the Doctor's oath that 'first they should do no harm'?