MSNBC’s Matthews Finds Obama’s Weakness: He’s ‘Too Darned Intellectual’

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At the top of Friday’s Hardball on MSNBC, host Chris Matthews discovered the reason for President Obama’s political difficulties in recent months: “President Obama has his chin out on just about every hot issue out there....He’s exposed and vulnerable. His poll numbers are dropping. Is he just too darned intellectual? Too much the egg head?”

Later in the show, Matthews talked to Atlantic Media’s Ron Brownstein and USA Today’s Susan Page about Obama’s great flaw. He began by wondering: “I’m not attacking intellectuals because I do appreciate their contribution – but when politicians begin to get a little too intellectual, they lose connection with the American people....I begin to think this administration’s getting almost like one that you would imagine Adlai Stevenson running. Highly ethereal, highly intellectual, egg head. Not connected to real people and their emotional gut feelings about things.”    

Page agreed and pointed out: “...there are many strengths to the Obama administration, but they’ve got an awful lot of people who went to Ivy League schools, which is great, but you also need some people who went to big state colleges.” Luckily, Page found an ‘average Joe’ in the administration: “Vice President Biden’s been the target of some fun, he is maybe the only voice in that inner circle that reflects that kind of big state school mentality.”

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Page went on to conclude: “...your strength is always your weakness and that the great intellectual fire power around the president, the highly educated Ivy Leaguers, you need some other voices there of people who are maybe very connected with – with folks back home.”

Matthews then turned to Brownstein, who defended Obama’s brilliance: “One of the reasons people have liked Obama from the beginning, and particularly in his portion of the electorate, is that he seems cool, calm, rational, not just kind of a gut decider. But in fact, there is that kind of reserve and that kind of a step away.” Brownstein also mentioned some other down-to-earth players in the White House in addition to ‘average Joe’ Biden: “Look, the inner circle is not completely devoid of people who have been in kind of the rough and tumble, Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod.”

Brownstein explained: “The modern Democratic coalition that Obama not only kind of benefits from, but personifies. It relies more on those kind of well-educated voter than blue collar folks.” Matthews pressed him: “So you don’t want to say it’s an egg head administration.” Brownstein concluded: “No, I think that It has – it definitely has tendencies in that direction but it’s not clear that that is really the core of the problem right now.”

Here is a full transcript of the segment:
5:00PM TEASE:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Plus, President Obama has his chin out on just about every hot issue out there. Health care, terror trials, job losses, even the breast cancer report. He’s exposed and vulnerable. His poll numbers are dropping. Is he just too darned intellectual? Too much the egg head? Why did he bow to that Japanese emperor? Why did he pick Tim Geithner to be his economic front man? Why all this dithering over Afghanistan. And who thought it was a wonderful idea to bring the killers of 9/11 to New York City, the media capital of the world, so they could tell their story? Is Obama channeling Adlai Stevenson for heaven’s sake?

5:17PM SEGMENT:

CHRIS MATTHEWS: Welcome back to Hardball. Health care, Afghanistan, terrorist trials up in New York, the economy, after ten months on the job, has President Obama stuck his chin out too far on too many things? How badly does he need a big win now? Ron Brownstein is political director for Atlantic Media and Susan Page is Washington bureau chief for USA Today. Susan, I want to start with you because you and I are familiar with history, as is Ron. And I want to talk about the possibility that this president – and I know I’m not attacking intellectuals because I do appreciate their contribution – but when politicians begin to get a little too intellectual, they lose connection with the American people. I look at Geithner, I don’t think he’s a great political spokesperson. I look at this decision to put the trial up in New York City. I look at – look at releasing a mammogram report that says we can do better with less testing. And I begin to think this administration’s getting almost like one that you would imagine Adlai Stevenson running. Highly ethereal, highly intellectual, egg head. Not connected to real people and their emotional gut feelings about things. Your thoughts.

SUSAN PAGE: Well, you know, I have a thought that one possible, there are many strengths to the Obama administration, but they’ve got an awful lot of people who went to Ivy League schools, which is great, but you also need some people who went to big state colleges. And it seems to me while, you know, Vice President Biden’s been the target of some fun, he is maybe the only voice in that inner circle that reflects that kind of big state school mentality. That would say, ‘hey, wait a minute, we better not do this.’ And would say at this point, you know, ‘health care is great but what I’m really hearing from people about is concern about jobs.’ I think that – I think it’s fair to say that – that your strength is always your weakness and that the great intellectual fire power around the president, the highly educated Ivy Leaguers, you need some other voices there of people who are maybe very connected with – with folks back home.

MATTHEWS: You know, I wonder whether –  to make Susan’s point – I wonder if people know how much Geithner looks like all the guys on Wall Street? He even wears that same European cut shirt. He – he dresses and acts like them. He has the same manner of all those guys with all the money. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but they’re not Democrat. Number two, the mammogram. To tell women – our doctors, our intellectuals – to decide it based on data that you’re – you don’t have to have these tests. Everybody’s been taught since birth, get tested.

RON BROWNSTEIN: Although in fairness, the administration really back pedaled away from that.

MATTHEWS: Not fast enough.

BROWNSTEIN: As fast – almost as fast as they could. Look I – Susan said something very profound. Your strengths are your weaknesses. One of the reasons people have liked Obama from the beginning, and particularly in his portion of the electorate – is that he seems cool, calm, rational, not just kind of a gut decider. But in fact, there is that kind of reserve and that kind of a step away. Now, their – their inner circle-

MATTHEWS: It helped him in beating Hillary.

BROWNSTEIN: Absolutely – and in beating Obama – I’m sorry – beating McCain. By seeming cool when McCain seemed to melt down during the financial crisis. Look, the inner circle is not completely devoid of people who have been in kind of the rough and tumble, Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, as you said Vice President Biden. But there is a lot of that other element and in fact-

MATTHEWS: You mean Sarah Lawrence was the key to this administration?

BROWNSTEIN: You know, look, as we talked about before, the modern-

MATTHEWS: Just kidding.

BROWNSTEIN: The modern Democratic coalition. The modern Democratic coalition that Obama not only kind of benefits from, but personifies. It relies more on those kind of well-educated voter than blue collar folks.

MATTHEWS: Do you buy her argument that it’s too egg head? I mean, maybe it’s my argument, this week.

BROWNSTEIN: I – I think – I agree with Susan that your strengths are your weaknesses. There are assets-

MATTHEWS: So you don’t want to say it’s an egg head administration.

BROWNSTEIN: No, I think that It has – it definitely has tendencies in that direction but it’s not clear that that is really the core of the problem right now.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Damn

If Obama wants to bump someone off now is the time to do it. These media types could come up with a convenient excuse within seconds. That has to be the most unplausible excuse for sinking poll numbers since they started taking polls. I knew Matthews is a nitwit, I just did not know to what degree of a nitwit. If there is a land of nitwits, he could be their King.

They find a way to spin

They find a way to spin it if there was picture of him having sex with a goat on the White House lawn.  

Semper suprene nitens 

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Hey get it right, it would

Hey get it right, it would be a camel not a goat, and he would be smoking a camel cig after, just sayin

ricklail & kangaroo

You guys are sick and that's what I like about you. If you don't know the joke about the the Lieutenant in the Foreign Legion and the camel, please e-mail me and I'll send it to you. I have a feeling that you are already aware. It does involve a ladder, and I'm reluctant to violate OSHA rules on NB'ers.

Compared to Chris Matthews......

A three legged toad is an intellectual!   yes you can get "tingling" in one leg LOL...just ask matthews ha ha

Isn't this the hypothesis

Isn't this the hypothesis they spun for Bill Clinton?

That's right Chris....that talk about being "all wee-wee'd up"  was way over our heads!

He's just having a hard time explaining things in words we can understand.

As for not being a "gut" decider, that he isn't. He's like Clinton in that: Clinton seemed to enjoy the wonky discussions so much he couldn't come up with a decision. But I think Obama puts off decisions because he really doesn't want to make them; so it's always more thinking, more talking, more discussing.

In the military we called

In the military we called it "analysis paralysis", and it's a potentially fatal condition. It's often seen in officers who are afraid of taking responsibility.  Sounds like Senator "I voted 'present'", doesn't it?

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

This is the hypothesis they

This is the hypothesis they spin for ALL liberal failures - they're just too damn smart for us peons to understand, which makes they're falling ratings the result of little more than "jealousy" - or racism in Obambi's case - and if we only could see all the "nuances" alike they (claim they) can, we "morons" would see that these failures are actually good for us.

 What? More RAM for the

 What? More RAM for the Prompter and a faster Bus speed.

I ain't buying what Matthews is selling. 

well, yuk, yuk... he be way

well, yuk, yuk... he be way 2 smarter fors me, dats 4 shore.

ditto

they're apparently too smart for me too.  Because I can't seem to understand how all these ostensibly brilliant egg heads can think that socialism and deficits are going to help our country.

I just can't seem to make the connection.  Hey....wait....perhaps they have a sinister ulterior motive....nahhhh...couldn't be that!!

Well, if He is so darn intellectual, then why can't

..He figure out out to close Gitmo? save the economy? create real jobs (instead of creating and/or saving them)? how to reform health care in a fashion that a majority of voters would support? decide what to do in Afghanistan? And why can't he figure out how to be honest?

(;~/ gary

PS - didn't somebody else make this same claim a few months back? sure sounds familiar.

A popular excuse with my

A popular excuse with my extended family is "he hasn't had enough time yet bush had 8 years to create this mess and he's only been around for 10 months. You expect him to act this quickly?"

 Yes, they don't capitalize Bush. No, they obviously aren't paying attention to the guidelines Duh One himself set.

Chris M-G

how about a few close enough instant responses for your extended family.

Clinton's HUD and Timothy Geithner (Rubin, Greenspan & Summers) anti-regulation efforts lay the foundation for the current financial crisis. Besides, do they really want to return to the Clintonesque era of rampant corporate fraud and greed - the era of Enron - which was well into it's crash when Bush inherited all of that - which the far left still insists serves as the root of the current crisis?

You might also remind them that the USSR invaded Afghanistan under Carter, and the Taliban took control of Afghanistan under Clinton. Also that Saddam invaded Iran during Carter's term - a meer 1 million people died in that conflict - far less than the 5-6 million that died in numerous genocides and civil wars in Africa during the Clinton years, but still rather significant. Also, it was Clinton who turned his back on HIV/Aids in Africa - and Bush who made history pushing for, implementing and succeeding (they say - saved over a million lives already) in the massive PEPFAR and related programs. 

Just trying to keep your family breathing. hee hee

(;~> gary 

 

Much appreciated. Sometimes

Much appreciated. Sometimes I feel like I am what we would call an uneducated liberal myself- I hear such weak arguments all the time, but myself don't have the knowledge to refute them even though I know it's out there, so I lose the argument. I need to get reading lol.

Gary, you forgot to mention

Gary, you forgot to mention the million plus who died in Cambodia, and Southeast Asia after we left and discontinued support on orders from a Dem Congress, & also under the Carter Admin.  Just saying.

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

Add all those impressive

Add all those impressive accomplishments in a few months with his stellar collegiate records and, uh, nevermind.

For all those with

For all those with acquaintances who are convinced Obama is the smartest thing since sliced bread I recommend the following link. http://www.floppingaces.net/2009/11/19/the-great-ditherer-above-reproach...

Who was it, Blonde, who told

Who was it, Blonde, who told me we were in Bizzaro World?  More proof.  The problem is that Obama is to smart, it's that he's to smarmy. 

Um, *raises hand*

OMO, yes, it is Bizarro World...."smarmy" is one of my favorite words. 

The question, is, though....will we be able to exit Bizarro World intact?

Hope so, Rad. 

And if not, we'll all hang together, for surely we'll hang alone!

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

J, here's hoping I hang with you

LOL-Just hearing that long string of multi-syllabic infused invectives you will no doubt unload on Obama's green shirts (or whatever color they are wearing that day-red, maybe?) will almost be worth it, as I doubt they will have nary a clue as to the meaning of any of it.   :-^)

As for me, I'll be LMAO!

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.  

OMG

you just can not fix stupid

no matter where you send them to school

 

 

Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

Hey Josey

Hey you old outlaw it is good to have you here. They are so smart at Haaaavard but they can't fix stupid there either.

Semper suprene nitens 

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Josey, Welcome to NewsBusters.

Normally, as the "official" troll greeter here, I pretty much stick to welcoming those losers, but I just love your SN, as that is one of my favorite, as well as Clint's best movie of all time. 

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.  

Spin Spin Spin

Chris Matthews and other Obama butt kissers are doing all they can to spin Obama's low approval ratings.  This perticular piece of spin by Chris is a real gem.

44 percent, is, after all,

44 percent, is, after all, higher than Bush's near-term percentage of 34. That's another popular excuse I hear.

‘Too Darned Intellectual’ is code

for FREAKIN' LOSER.

I hope he fails, too.

 

 

Ain't been educated, have

Ain't been educated, have you, Ol' Matthews, for som'n to be too intellectual for you?

Ain't you elitists s'posed to be smart?

Tingel boy is so far up

Tingel boy is so far up Obama's rectum that I bet it would take a D-9 CAT to pull him out. I can look at Obama and tell he is not the brightest light in the harbor.
When he opens his mouth I know it is a sure thing.

Semper suprene nitens 

There is no point dwelling on all the foolish mistakes we have made in our lives. For one thing, it can be very time-consuming. Dr. Thomas Sowell

 

Um........

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OK, I feel better now........

Right. Rahm Emmanuel, "a rough and tumble" ballet dancer

Tingles never tires of the Obama-luvin' daisy chain.

well now...

if Matthews said he was too "intellectual," rather than"smart" then I agree with him. omg...Matthews got something right?

I think Obama IS too "intellectual" and by that I certainly do NOT mean that he's just too brilliant for us mortals. I think he has very few convictions that he truly believes in. he has no compassion for others, unless (apparently) they are black or Muslim. he doesn't connect with "average" people--you know, the gun-clinging "typical white person" religious ones.

 he can't seem to make a decision--remember when we laughed at Bush for calling himself "the Decider"? wouldn't you love to have a president who was ABLE to decide something? Obeyme's been pretending to think about Afghanistan for what, 3 months now? and when an Islamic fundie yelled "Allah Akhbar"and murdered 13/14 people, Mr. Friend of Skip Gates told us not to "jump to conclusions"?

the guy is completely disconnected. so is that "intellectual"? yeah, sort of. and if that's what Chrissie meant, then yeah, he got one right for once. but "smart"? not so much.

Don't forget that there's

Don't forget that there's the very real chance that his stalling on Afghanistan may just be to play on the polls. I think that was posted on an earlier OT but I don't recall exactly where I read it.

Too Smart????

This is just too rich.  Obama's big problem is he just too smart.  Right!  I noticed the matthews mentioned an Ivy League education as a marker of intelligence, but he wasn't saying that about President Bush, who was also an Ivy Leaguer. 

If I remember correctly, this was also the liberal defense of carter...he was also too smart.  This is liberal code word for "unqualified" "no leadership skills" "piss poor president".

www.coastaldecorations.com 

 

 

   MATTHEWS: Highly

   MATTHEWS: Highly ethereal, highly intellectual, egg head. Not connected to real people and their emotional gut feelings about things.

   That's called all style no substance.

  

 

Sounds like a description

Sounds like a description of clinical psychosis to me. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

This is a joke, right? You

This is a joke, right? You guys made this up, right?

Looks like Matthews needed

Looks like Matthews needed his leg-humping fix from Obama to get those daily thrills in his pants.

What can you expect from a tool who, on the day of Obama's election, declared to the world that it was 'his job to make his administration look good'?

You're a media whore, Matthews - you sell favorable coverage to Obama in exchange for money. 

Too Intellectual??? Good

Too Intellectual??? Good grief! My Maytag does not spin that hard....what a clown Chris Matthews is.

If Matthews were intelligent enough to judge Obama's...

If Matthews were intelligent enough to judge Obama's intelligence, he would find little there. Obama is charismatic, but little else. But then, it doesn't take much for true believers. 

Matthews' statements

First he had a thrill going up his leg.  Then he didn't know if it was a crime for Hasan to call Al-Queda.  Now this utterly ridiculous statement. 

Of course Obama is going to look like genius compared to this moron.

Wilson

His Majesty The Shahinshah, "too intellectual"?  Please.  Woodrow Wilson had a freaking Ph. D., and he could actually make decisions and stick to them. 

But then, he was also a governor of NJ, so that gave him practical experience making decisions, unlike His Majesty The Shahinshah. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

This buffoon is

This buffoon is hystericsally funny, really. Unintentionally, of course. 

Susan, I want to start with you because you and I are familiar with history, as is Ron.

So why not start with Ron as well?

But why leave out the incoherent Susan, who doesn't seem THAT familiar with history to me.

I think it’s fair to say that – that your strength is always your weakness ...

I think it's even fairer to say that's gibberish.

Doesn't that also suggest that your weakness is always your strength.

If Obama's an intellectual, then the Edsel was the greatest car ever. 

Talking "egg heads"

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall (fence),
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the King's horses,
And all the King's men,
Couldn't put Humpty together again.

The state controlled leftist media are just a bunch of DOUCHE BAGGERS (D-BAGGERS)

Jack

If Obama's an intellectual, then the Edsel was the greatest car ever.

Hahaha! :)

An aside, btw... I emailed my uber-liberal brother an email/petition urging people to contact their Senators to vote down the HC bill. Guy responds with a link to a clip of Michael Moore's "Sicko".

No, I wish I was kidding, but I'm not. :p

 

Shy -- shame about your

Shy -- shame about your bro. Ask him to grant you power of attorney.

Then if he should fall gravely ill, and is incapable of making his own decisions you'll ENSURE he's transferred to a general hospital in Cuba.

Only the best for him.

The state controlled leftist media are just a bunch of DOUCHE BAGGERS (D-BAGGERS)

Jack

I'm cut out to be many things... but an attorney? Yikes, that one's not for me. :p

 

Sounds like something my

Sounds like something my brother-in-law would do too.

Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.

Ignorance is the Essence of Liberalism

A prime example of 'Liberal Ignorance' and the acceptance of that ignorance is the Barack Obama 'Economic Doctrine' of debt reduction.

Barack Obama's 'Economic Doctrine' of debt reduction is that borrowing and spending will reduce debt.

This 'Obama Economic Doctrine' is widely heralded by Liberals as the answer to America's financial morass and is even claimed by Liberals to be 'Sheer Genius'.

It seems that few Liberals apply this 'Obama Economic Doctrine' to their own lives and finances, but have 'Great Faith' in this absurd and ridiculous idea.

The 'Obama Economic Doctrine' is but one of many Liberal thoughts and beliefs that are transcendent from the 'Ridiculous to the Sublime'.

Liberals seem trapped in limbo neither children or adults.

Chrissy Matthews falls on his knees

Why is it that everytime Barack Obama opens his mouth, Chrissy Matthews falls on his knees and opens his?

Obama policies destroying Black Families

When Barack Obama ascended to his throne, black unemployment was 8.9%, after Barack Obama has started his 'Obama Recovery', the black unemployment rate is now 15.7%.

NOTE to Liberals: That is a 76.4% increase in unemployment for blacks under 'King Obama'.
-----------------------------

"Influential black leaders have now begun pressuring President Obama, the country's first black president, to take action, saying they want him "to move forward" because in some communities, the male black unemployment rate hit 50 percent.

"Our country needs to move to create new jobs," Hilary Shelton, senior vice president of the NAACP, told Fox News.

A rising jobless rate in minority communities could pose a serious problem for Obama if voter enthusiasm begins to wane among these groups whose support helped sweep him into power last year."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/18/job-hunt-minorities-urge-obam...

Intellect

Perhaps tingles is just stating the obvious ... "In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king."

Or in the case of Dems:  "In the party with no brains ... um ... well we had to pick somebody."

Save the rainforest ... emit more CO2

i read somewhere his intellectual ability

wowed people in all 57 states

Proof positive...

....they're ALL a bunch of morons!

OMG!!!!!

Chris Matthews: He's even smarter than me. That's amazing!

Ethereal? LOL

Is Chris calling OPrecious a fairy?

Intellectual?

I think Chris meant to say, "brainless"!

Brownstein hinted at SOBama's brainlessness when he suggested that intellect was not the "core of the problem right now".

Brownstein clearly knows Chris has wet his pants over the WRONG guy!

The fact that Prissy Chrissy thinks Obama to be so...

..."darned intellectual" speaks volumes about his own intellectual abilities, or the dearth of them.

And what, exactly, is so intellectual about communism?

I mean, all you have to do is give long, boring speeches slamming everything about America, seize all private industry, especially health care and the energy producers, pretend to pay people for pretending to work, take over the schools, newspapers, radio and TV stations, outlaw any and all dissent, "re-educate," deport, jail, or kill those who do dissent, send Fidel Castro a birthday present every year, and live like a king until someone comes along and bumps your tyrannical ass off and moves into your dacha and starts diddling your mistress(es).

What, exactly, is so darned intellectual about that?

Even former community organizers from Chicago, who used to walk around with bullhorns and clipboards agitating communities, and who spent the balance of their time teaching moochers and leeches how to use government to steal even more from the producers, can do that.

Hell, one is doing right here, right now.

-Dave

Our elected representatives have failed us.  

Communist intellect

This seems like the perfect chance to pull out a Gipper quote ...

"How do you tell a communist? Well, a communist is someone who reads Marx and Lenin.  And how do you tell an anti-communist?  It's someone who understands Marx and Lenin."

Save the rainforest ... emit more CO2

Tingles may have a point.

 

I too believe that Obama is educated beyond his intelligence.

Near as anybody can tell,

Near as anybody can tell, he passed that mark in the 4th grade.

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Oh for cripe's sake.  He's

Oh for cripe's sake.  He's about a "highly ethereal" and "highly intellectual" as a toilet seat.

Obama Eligibility On Trial?

False, no trial

according to snopes, it is false. I will try to do things in the right order another time, sorry.

 Too funny! Matthews and

 Too funny! Matthews and obama together couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the instruction on the heel.

Obama too smart?

Matthews is full of it, as usual, but people should not underestimate Obama. He is very smart, ruthless and cold.  He has all the classic signs of a narcissistic sociopath.  He's being enabled by so many who just can't afford to be "wrong" about him, and that makes him very dangerous.

Yeah, Chris, you nailed it

He is just too smart. Too brilliant. Always has his head buried in a Richard Niebuhr book, when he isn't snacking on $100 a lb Wagyu beef (but not to much, have to look stressed). You finally nailed it, Chrissy. You think he is professorial? Let's see those school records.

Intellectual is not the word

Intellectual is not the word I'd use to describe Obama.  Mine also begins with the letter I but is spelled I-D-I-O-T

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