Appearing on CBS’s Sunday Morning, commentator Ben Stein ripped into CNN political analyst James Carville for claiming anti-Obama protestors were "classless": "the elitist anger of the liberal Democrats is boiling over as some ordinary citizens show they don’t like being pushed around....Contempt for the ordinary citizen is just not American and it does not win elections."
Earlier in his commentary, Stein wondered: "I thought the Democrats were the party of the little guys and those who aren’t classy or well born...So now the Democrats are admitting they’re the party of the rich?" He went on to point out that Democrats have "been getting the lion’s share of very large political gifts for years now. The truth is that the Democrats are the fat cats. I’m impressed that Mr. Carville admitted it. I like him more than ever now."
Stein continued: "I was also interested to see that Mr. Carville, a mere lad of 64, same age as I am, has made fun of the age of the tea party attendees." A clip was played of Carville declaring: " I mean they had every old crank in the country out there." Stein observed: "So now the Democrats don’t think the opinions of senior citizens are worth anything more than ridicule?"
Using Carville’s complaints as a guideline, Stein concluded: "I’ve seen other Democratic commentators making mock of the fact that the people at the tea parties were overwhelmingly white. So are we back to saying people’s political views only count if they have skin of a certain color? I don’t like the sound of that. There’s also some scorn because many of the tea party-ers are from small towns and I don’t like that much either."
Eariler on Sunday Morning, CBS political analyst Jeff Greenfield seemed to channel Carville as he fretted over the right-wing "militancy" of the protestors.
Here is a full transcript of Stein’s commentary:
10:12AM
CHARLES OSGOOD: As we heard from Jeff Greenfield earlier, politics has become more rough and tumble in recent months and our contributor Ben Stein doesn’t appreciate some of what he’s been hearing.
BEN STEIN: I know James Carville and I like him. He and I have been on many talk shows together and he’s always friendly, funny, and knowledgeable. He’s also compelling, because he seems to me to reflect in his comments the thoughts of the inner circle to the Democratic Party’s power elite. That’s why I was a bit surprised when I read that Mr. Carville had recently blasted the men and women at the anti-Obama tea parties as so, quote, ‘classless,’ end quote, that they shocked him.
JAMES CARVILLE: I was shocked by how utterly classy – classless the crowd was.
STEIN: Wait a minute, I thought the Democrats were the party of the little guys and those who aren’t classy or well born. Now the Democrats’ political enemies are the ones without social class? So now the Democrats are admitting they’re the party of the rich? They’ve been getting the lion’s share of very large political gifts for years now. The truth is that the Democrats are the fat cats. I’m impressed that Mr. Carville admitted it. I like him more than ever now. I was also interested to see that Mr. Carville, a mere lad of 64, same age as I am, has made fun of the age of the tea party attendees. He mockingly noted that their average age was quote, ‘what like 72.4 years?,’ end quote.
CARVILLE: I mean they had every old crank in the country out there.
STEIN: So now the Democrats don’t think the opinions of senior citizens are worth anything more than ridicule? That’s a change too, and not a good one. I’ve seen other Democratic commentators making mock of the fact that the people at the tea parties were overwhelmingly white. So are we back to saying people’s political views only count if they have skin of a certain color? I don’t like the sound of that. There’s also some scorn because many of the tea party-ers are from small towns and I don’t like that much either. Look, some of what is coming out of the tea parties baffles me and I don’t care for it. But a lot of it does make sense. What’s really amazed me is how the elitist anger of the liberal Democrats is boiling over as some ordinary citizens show they don’t like being pushed around. The liberal Democrats might want to rethink this. Contempt for the ordinary citizen is just not American and it does not win elections.
OSGOOD: Commentary from Ben Stein.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Visene...get the blue out!
September 21, 2009 - 15:20 ET by AgentAmericanAll I can say is...
WOW!
Awake the sleeping giant...and that giant is WE THE PEOPLE!
Is that the same giant that
September 21, 2009 - 15:39 ET by Barry BondsIs that the same giant that got beat in the '08 elections?
This giant has been waking up for a long, long, long, time now. Why don't you just wake up already?
You go girl! the Noob pipes in.
September 21, 2009 - 17:26 ET by JWFAct like a democratic elitist troll in an article where Ben Stein talks about democratic elitists.
Hey, democratic elitist troll, we are woke up. In case you have not noticed. The democrat elitists have accomplished nothing despite having a majority and spending massive amounts of money.
You should be proud, democratic elitist troll.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
One serious flaw:
September 21, 2009 - 20:03 ET by UnsaneThe 2008 election had no Rightists.
This also does not mean that people are as helpless as you are, wanting the government to baby, baby, and baby them some more.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Carville...
September 21, 2009 - 15:20 ET by ConservativeClarkIm really starting to tune out Carville now. First off, hes on a network that has abysmal ratings because they are almost completely in the tank for Obama (Lou Dobbs is the exception). Second, Stein is right when he says that liberals, such as Carville, are showing this elitist attitude toward everyday Americans and its going to bite them in the ass next election. I used to at least listen to his commentary and ponder what he was saying, so that i am hearing another side and not being completely ideological (insert any olbermann moment here). At the rate he's sliding left, he'll be on MSNBC anytime soon.
"and not being completely ideological"
September 22, 2009 - 08:58 ET by Indiana JoeWait a minute here. To me, it's better to be "ideological," that is, to have some guiding ideology, than it is to be like a leaf in the political winds. Sure, weigh the different aspects of an issue, but then make up your mind. And stick to your guns. May God save us from "moderates" and "undecideds."
I don't think we should let their ideologues make our ideology a dirty word.
To me, to have no ideology is to be bereft of ideas, beliefs, convictions.
"Four legs good... two legs better!" - George Orwell
Bueller,Bueller,Bueller
September 21, 2009 - 15:23 ET by jacktheripperI love Ben Stein
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can
bribe the people with their own money." – Alexis de Tocqueville
If a no-class hack like
September 21, 2009 - 15:25 ET by mattmIf a no-class hack like Carville calls people classless, it's obvious that they have more class than any 3 million Carvilles.
Yes, he's a low life hack,
September 21, 2009 - 15:29 ET by celatorYes, he's a low life hack, but he's not from this planet, so perhaps he has an excuse. He looks very much like the aliens from the constellation Delphinus, about 358 light years away. I'd say they probably sent him to planet earth on a one way trip to get rid of him. Now we have him.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Carville kind of reminds me
September 21, 2009 - 15:58 ET by Kat Outta the BagCarville kind of reminds me of a shaved chihuahua: "Yap, yap, yap, yap, yip, yip, yap..."
Kat...That image will stay
September 21, 2009 - 16:00 ET by celatorKat...That image will stay in my mind for a long time. LOL
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
The proper spelling is CHE
September 21, 2009 - 21:05 ET by Dan DiegoThe proper spelling is CHE WAH WAH.
Dan
September 21, 2009 - 21:06 ET by FeynmanFanLMAO!!!
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Classless??
September 21, 2009 - 16:48 ET by motherbeltYeah, classless....you know, like Paula Jones.
"Drag a hunna-dolla bill thoo a trailer park....."
Ah yes, MB,
September 21, 2009 - 20:54 ET by BarkerAnd James Carville is what the MSM gets when they drag dollar bills through the Washington DC sewer....
Carville is
September 21, 2009 - 15:27 ET by jdlybrandThe 'white' Milk Dud.
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Three Cheers for
September 21, 2009 - 15:29 ET by bigtimerThree Cheers for Stein!
What cracks me up with the left nit-wits like Carville are the older generation they have been using since I can remember with just Social Security, the old tag-line, 'the evil repubs want to take that away from you' mantra...
Now they are attacking those very people.
For once I find this refreshing, some dems (and Independents that lean left) may actually be waking up, taking off their rose-colored glasses and seeing the forest for the trees when it comes to their party.
We shall see in about a year or so from now.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Ben Is The Man
September 21, 2009 - 15:30 ET by UtherpendBen is the Man. I noticed they didn't have Carville on opposite him. Carville is the worst of the Dems out there, he tries to come off as a good old boy with his cajun accent till he starts spouting his socialist rhetoric. It was so satisfying to see Ann Coulter take him on and make him look like a stuttering fool in the past.
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
Yes, Some Crowds are Classless
September 21, 2009 - 15:43 ET by Barry BondsSo.
Mr. Stein, I guess you've never seen some of the crowds featuring the most offensive and unneccessary signs and pictures.
Also, you NEVER see anyone in the crowd telling other people in the crowd that their signs and pictures might be a little over the top so it means the crowd basically agrees with each of its members.
Hence, a classless crowd.
How many signs were
September 21, 2009 - 15:47 ET by Kat Outta the BagHow many signs were controversial as opposed to the majority of the ones being held? And how was this crowd "classless" as compared the ones seen on, oh...let's say...zombietime.com?
Another Barry With A Rep Problem
September 21, 2009 - 15:57 ET by UtherpendI wonder how many events Barry went to and how many he watched on MSNBC? If you had been you would know that most of the people there carried signs with facts, only the nut jobs that are in every rally like the Lindon Laruse crowd carried the offensive signs.
Lets talk about the people that bite the fingers off of senior citizens that don't agree with them?
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
I wasn't there so I wasn't
September 21, 2009 - 16:18 ET by Barry BondsI wasn't there so I wasn't able to count them. How many does there need to be in order to meet your threshold?
I didn't know this was an issue of comparing crowds. Is that how the Right does it: it's o.k. as long as someone else has done it before?
Threshold? I'd say, what,
September 21, 2009 - 16:34 ET by G. MayThreshold? I'd say, what, 2% might represent a significant number? That's an awfully low percentage for you to try and find. Can you find the numbers?
Also, if you weren't there, how can you say that you "NEVER" see anyone else condemning these as of yet un-numbered posters?
I'm sure I could find those
September 21, 2009 - 16:47 ET by Barry BondsI'm sure I could find those numbers - it would probably be pretty easy. I'd wear a shirt which read: "Obama is your Master" and count the number of people who cursed at me or spit on me.
To your second point: have you ever heard of video? They have tons of it on this thing called the internet. Also, I have never read about it in this thing called the news papers and I have never heard about it on this other thing called radio.
Put up or shut up!
September 21, 2009 - 16:55 ET by motherbeltIf you're sure you could find the numbers, then do it.
And if there's video, I suggest you produce some of it to bolster your argument.
You see, this is how it works:
You make the statement. If it's challenged, you supply the proof.
You don't get to be believed until someone proves you wrong.
Besides, it's impossible to prove a negative.
mb--
September 21, 2009 - 16:55 ET by Kat Outta the BagI think Barry is upset that the many nice people in the crowd didn't beat the ones holding the few "classless" signs to a bloody pulp for everyone to see. Apparently, being civil just isn't classy enough for some people.
Google is your friend. I
September 21, 2009 - 16:56 ET by Barry BondsGoogle is your friend. I am not your daddy and I won't be holding your hand. Go do your own research - or put your head in the sand. Either way it's o.k. with me.
Wait, if you're still waiting for proof after an entire summer of classless townhall spectacles then you must have had your head in the sand.
→ You again?
September 21, 2009 - 17:01 ET by Cool ArrowBirmingham and Selma were similarly cast as classless gatherings.
I'll take your backhanded comment as an inadvertant compliment.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
No, my dear.....you made
September 21, 2009 - 17:09 ET by motherbeltNo, my dear.....you made the claim; you prove it.
But just for giggles, here are the WORST signs that the Huffington Post could come up with!!
I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!!
PROUD AMERICAN CAPTITALIST!!!
BORN FREE; TAXED TO DEATH!!
You're right....OMG....the HATE!!!!
Now go and do your homework before Mommy comes in to check it.
mb... Plus they left are
September 21, 2009 - 17:13 ET by bigtimermb...
Plus they left are complaining about 'I Want My Country Back'
Trying to make that statement racist somehow.
Unbelievable.
Your last line in your post above still has me chuckling.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
*Gasp*
September 21, 2009 - 17:15 ET by Kat Outta the BagMb...I clicked on your link and saw someone holding a sign that read, "I'm Not Your ATM." Oh, the humanity!
I didn't know the cherries
September 21, 2009 - 17:54 ET by Barry BondsI didn't know the cherries were already ripe.
"Proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free..."
What?
September 21, 2009 - 17:57 ET by JWFWhat are you on about now, Pink Binky?
What happened to Mr. Rhoids
September 21, 2009 - 18:02 ET by Cool ArrowHe went off sniffing drainpipes and reciting the alphabet - Bob Dylan.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
They were Grapes BB
September 22, 2009 - 10:17 ET by general companyCherries are long gone
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
mb: Your HuffPo link--check again.
September 21, 2009 - 18:26 ET by Jermotherbelt...
Just checked out your HuffPo link. With all due respect, I think you should take another look and revise your post.
Jer
Why don't you do an expose
September 21, 2009 - 18:47 ET by NL207Why don't you do an expose intead of innuendo?
What? You would have
September 21, 2009 - 19:04 ET by JerWhat? You would have preferred a 'gotcha' diatribe with accusations of duplicity and deception? That was neither what I thought nor the intent of my post. It was meant to be exactly what it was: a straightforward recommendation she review her own reference and correct her mistake. [There were a great number of photos. She apparently clicked on the wrong series.]
Jer
I thought as much. Better
September 21, 2009 - 19:16 ET by NL207I thought as much. Better to let the other fellow shoot first and then counterpunch when one is defending an indefensible proposition, no?
None of those signs even remotely approach the distasteful displays I have seen from Code Pink and other leftwing agitators. Moreover, I think you agree with that assessment. If that lot are the worst the lefties at HuffPo have seen then they haven't seen much.
NL...
September 21, 2009 - 19:36 ET by Jer"Remotely approach the distasteful displays...from Code Pink, etc."?
I'm not sure how to answer that. I assume I have seen representative displays from both Code Pink [anti-Bush] and Tea Party [anti-Obama] demonstrators. The level of taste can be pretty low on both sides. But, I'll concede that a few of the signs carried by (presumably) Code Pinkers scrape the absolute bottom of the barrel. On the other hand, I consider CP a more radical group [Sheehan thinks Pelosi is too conservative] than the 9/12 protestors.
Jer
I am aware of Sheehan's
September 21, 2009 - 19:47 ET by NL207I am aware of Sheehan's positions, but I also do not think I ever heard that Sheehan was a Code Pink'er. They seem to the left even of Sheehan.
I think you will also admit that these 9/12 signs do not scrape the bottom of the barrel. About the worst of them I saw was the one with Obama's head on a Nazi Uniformed body, if you can call that bad. When one considers that Obama has been Nationalizing majopr corporations, this appellation bears some resemblence to the reality.
The left used to routinely refer to Bush as "Chimpy McHitler" and occasionally call for his assassination.
NL...I don't waste my time
September 21, 2009 - 20:55 ET by JerI don't waste my time following the career of Cindy Sheehan and apparently just assumed she was a major member/participant in Code Pink.
My concession that several lefty signs scraped the absolute bottom of the barrel was an implicit acknowledgement that those of the Tea Partiers' didn't.
"Chimpy McHitler" depictions were crass and insulting, but no more so than some of the Obama signs. However, calling for Bush's [or any president's] death is indefensible, despicable and borders on free speech violations. Definitely beyond the pale.
Jer
If you actually believed I
September 21, 2009 - 21:06 ET by NL207If you actually believed I was wasting your time you would not have replied.
NL...
September 21, 2009 - 22:12 ET by JerYou misunderstood. I wasn't being a smartass or anything--and that remark was certainly not intended as a dig at you at all. Just saying that--aside from sympathizing with her over her loss--I'm neither impressed by nor interested in Sheehan's activities.
Jer
Point of Order
September 21, 2009 - 21:17 ET by Free StinkerTea Party [anti-Obama] demonstrators.
Point of Order !
Excuse me, but The four Tea Parties I attended this year have all be anti-Cap-and-Trade, anti-Healthcare-takeover, and anti-Spendulus. Please don't make any assumptions.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
What assumptions do you
September 21, 2009 - 22:15 ET by JerWhat assumptions do you have in mind?
Jer
Hmmn. I only quoted one
September 21, 2009 - 22:19 ET by Free StinkerHmmn. I only quoted one line of yours. What do you think?
Free Stinker...
September 21, 2009 - 22:45 ET by JerHmmm...Actually you alluded to only one phrase. I'll try reading your mind, since you prefer to be coy and sarcastic instead of clearly stating your objection.
I guess you believe when I parenthetically referred to "anti-Obama" displays in connection with Tea Party demonstrators, I had assumed and was accordingly asserting ALL SIGNS at those events were directed against Obama. If that is your point, your point is invalid. I was merely, for the sake of argument, referring to a representative sampling of the anti-Obama displays present at those events compared to a representative sampling of the anti-Bush displays present at Code Pink demonstrations.
If I have misunderstood your concerns, please be a little more specific.
Jer
You most definitely
September 21, 2009 - 22:57 ET by Free StinkerYou most definitely portrayed the Tea Parties as Anti-Obama.
I remember
September 21, 2009 - 23:08 ET by candancewhen the TEA parties started back in March, people were hanging Schwarzeneggar in effigy and starting RINO purge campaigns to get rid of Arlen Spector. Amazing how the media paid no attention until Democrats started getting heckled, and suddenly it was all about Obama.
Sarah Palin being hung in
September 21, 2009 - 23:13 ET by Free StinkerSarah Palin being hung in effigy out in California last Halloween. . .
MSM was MIA
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
→ Dang it Free
September 21, 2009 - 23:17 ET by Cool ArrowBetween you and candance beating me to the punch everywhere I turn, I'm feelin' real unnecessary.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Okay, Cool...
September 21, 2009 - 23:27 ET by JerJust so you won't feel irrelevant, I'll allow you to provide the details of the hanging of Hillary Clinton in effigy in Kentucky during the campaign and to express your outrage over same.
Saw the photo of the Palin incident. Disgusting.
Jer
→ Sorry, Jer
September 21, 2009 - 23:29 ET by Cool ArrowDidn't see that one. It sounds wrong to me. I'll check it out.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Hold on...Just googled
September 21, 2009 - 23:34 ET by JerHold on...Just googled it. Apparently Obama was The Hanged One, not Hillary. My apologies.
Jer
→ Thanks, Jer
September 21, 2009 - 23:45 ET by Cool ArrowI'll pretend you didn't know it was a response to the Palin effigy.
Those guys did what we all wondered at the time. What would happen if a conservative did that to a liberal.
Misguided and wrong? absolutely. I file it equal to the Palin effigy.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
No need to pretend. I
September 21, 2009 - 23:52 ET by JerNo need to pretend. I didn't.
Jer
→ I know
September 21, 2009 - 23:55 ET by Cool ArrowBut I can't reply to you without being somewhat snarky.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
→ Jer
September 21, 2009 - 23:33 ET by Cool ArrowThis one?
An effigy of U.S. Secretary of state Hillary Clinton was burnt by
Jharkhand Mukti Morcha activists in protest against the frisking of
former President Dr. A P J Abdul Kalam by the Continental Airlines at
the international airport in Delhi on Wednesday..
Wow, Jer! Doesn't exactly sound like something the Right needs to apologize for.
We're sort of down on Islamic threats. How about you?
This ain't Truthmonger you're talking to.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Cool..
September 21, 2009 - 23:35 ET by JerSee my correction immediately above.
Jer
I don't think that's it
September 21, 2009 - 23:40 ET by candanceAn effigy of Hillary was burned in Kentucky by tobacco farmers in 1994.
But either way, it was a rude thing to do and those people were being jerks. Nothing screams wacko faster than setting a doll on fire.
Agreed. Thats_just_wrong.
September 21, 2009 - 23:43 ET by Free StinkerAgreed.
Thats_just_wrong.
No_matter_if_its
Hillary_Obama
Palin_Bush_or_whoever
remember that too
September 21, 2009 - 23:23 ET by candanceand I remember when Rick Santelli was yelling about the bailout on CNBC way, way, way back in Sept 2008 (when Bush was still in office) but the media didn't care about Santelli's rants until after the election.
→ That's true
September 21, 2009 - 23:15 ET by Cool ArrowAnd lynching Sarah Palin in effigy from a house gable is perfectly acceptable to the liberals.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Look, Free...It was a
September 21, 2009 - 23:14 ET by JerLook, Free...It was a short-hand reference for the sake of comparison which I thought would be obvious within the overall context of my post. [Furthermore, I believe all of the photos at HuffPo were from Tea Parties, and that was, after all, the topic of motherbelt's post to which I initially responded.]
I am well aware that not all of the Tea partiers were anti-Obama and not all of the signs were anti-Obama, but if such was the impression conveyed, please consider my earlier statement amended to reflect that fact and accept my regrets.
Jer
I can see both sides of this
September 21, 2009 - 23:05 ET by candanceJer wasn't saying that 9/12 was anti-Obama per se, but he was making a comparison of Bush vs Obama, and 9/12 was a handy place to see an abundance of signs about Obama.
But Free is right in pointing out that many 9/12ers revile Bush's role in government expansion, and 9/12 is more about overall progessivism than about one person.
Cx2, Free, Jer
September 21, 2009 - 23:26 ET by MrShyI really am (still) kicking myself that I didn't go.
That's Okay. A few of us
September 21, 2009 - 23:28 ET by Free StinkerThat's Okay.
A few of us carried the load for everyone.
It's not like anything important is on the line . . .
*tries to ignore pangs of guilt*
September 21, 2009 - 23:33 ET by candanceYou shouldn't feel obligated to carry the burden of others who are lazy. That's communistic. I have learned my lesson and will make my way to the next event.
I did it out of obligation
September 21, 2009 - 23:41 ET by Free StinkerI did it out of obligation to myself, and my family.
what I meant was
September 21, 2009 - 23:46 ET by candanceyour comment about a few carrying the load for all the others. That's antithetic to conservative values. I really am making a stronger committment to show up for more things.
Someone's got to do
September 21, 2009 - 23:51 ET by Free StinkerSomeone's got to do it.
Like those folks I met from Texas, Utah, Arizona . . .
no more guilt bombs!
September 21, 2009 - 23:53 ET by candanceYou'll have my crying myself to sleep tonight.
? ? ? ? No_Guilt.
September 21, 2009 - 23:55 ET by Free Stinker? ? ? ?
No_Guilt. You're_under no_obligations
I make myself feel guilty
September 22, 2009 - 00:03 ET by candancewhen I am reminded that I didn't go. It's like the Tell Tale Heart with the policeman just sitting there innocently while the murderer gets more and more nervous.
No_guilt._You're under_Gra
September 22, 2009 - 00:06 ET by Free StinkerNo_guilt._You're
under_Grace!
this is true
September 22, 2009 - 00:09 ET by candanceand it's time to make better changes for the future.
Yes, i know who your intended target was...
September 21, 2009 - 23:59 ET by Unsane...but I had a very valid excuse. If that weekend wasn't booked months in advance, I would have been there. I regret that I attended only one Tea Party this year...
But at least that was the 15 April one with Glenn Beck's show... :-)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
→ Great gig Unsane.
September 22, 2009 - 00:02 ET by Cool ArrowI'm glad I made that one too.
Got a high five from Ted Nugent and a handshake from Glenn Beck.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
arg!
September 22, 2009 - 00:04 ET by candanceHere I sit as Beck's biggest fan on NB and I haven't met him once! The Nanny State needs to make this situation more fair!!
Hmmmn
September 22, 2009 - 00:09 ET by Free StinkerI_thought_you_were
Shy's_biggest_fan_??
my obsessions are far and wide
September 22, 2009 - 00:15 ET by candanceAnd besides, Shy actually lets me collaborate with him in writing scripts. Beck lets me "collaborate" by watching his TV show. :-D
My other objects of semi-creepy affection are Jesus (obviously), my husband (ditto), the works of Lois Lowry, and the music of Paul Wilbur.
I HAVE to ask...
September 22, 2009 - 00:23 ET by UnsaneAre they obsessions or obsessive devotions? :-)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
mostly obsessions
September 22, 2009 - 00:25 ET by candanceThe devotion part goes to hubby.
:p
Unsane
September 22, 2009 - 00:02 ET by Free StinkerYou have a valid Alibi being in Texas.
I used to go to college in Longview. I *know* the drive to NJ is 24 hours.
DC from Central Texas? You're excused! ;-)
Bondage: the next development
September 21, 2009 - 18:37 ET by Vivaldi5motherbelt, you may have noticed that Bondage gets real happy saying things like "Do you have any proof regarding any of these 'facts'? I'll wait."
Then when someone comes through and provides said facts, he's (surprise, surprise) not waiting. He's off blabbering somewhere else challenging other people for "proof" that he'll run away from when things get too hot.
So I'm not too surprised he's trying to outsource his research to you with cutesy statements about Google being your friend. Time spent actually finding facts is time taken from his empty drivelling, and trolls like Bondage don't have time to waste. After all, Soros is a demanding master.
Irony laden post
September 21, 2009 - 20:08 ET by UnsaneGoogle is your friend. I am not your daddy and I won't be holding your hand. This coming from a Socialist who demands the government play the role of "daddy" and hold everyone's hand, by force if necessary, is totally ironic.
Further irony to me is this: you can't be bothered to prove your assertions, but His Majesty The Shahinshah help a Rightist if he/she makes an assertion. If they do, you swing into action: barking orders at people and DEMANDING proof.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Ironic indeed. Good
September 22, 2009 - 06:56 ET by BDIronic indeed. Good summation.
you have to understand, motherbelt
September 21, 2009 - 16:57 ET by candanceLast night Barry demanded proof that 9/12 protestors were not thinking racist thoughts. The concept of empirical evidence is lost on him.
Gee, so did Maxine Waters
September 21, 2009 - 17:07 ET by SickofLibsAn investimagation is fully warranted.
Ah, so you CAN find the
September 21, 2009 - 17:11 ET by G. MayAh, so you CAN find the numbers (back up your argument).
Ok.
Do it.
To your second non-answer - your argument reeeeeeally hinges on providing some credible numbers.
We'll wait.
There were not two percent
September 21, 2009 - 22:02 ET by AlanaThere were not two percent at the tea parties I've been to. I'd say more like .2 percent.
Unless you want to count mention of socialism on signs (you know, that word that can never be spoken even when it is as plain as the nose on your face, cause it isn't, you know, polite to point it out).
So, if the relitively witty
September 22, 2009 - 06:55 ET by BDSo, if the relitively witty signs used in the 9/12 demonstrations do not meet with your approval, the absolutly abhorant signs from the past anti-war demonstrations make you what? Filled with revulsion?
Just trying to keep it honest here.
Regarding BB... Speaking
September 21, 2009 - 15:55 ET by bigtimerRegarding BB...
Speaking of class...obvious we have another classless trollster here...to be ignored, if possible.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
huzzah!
September 21, 2009 - 15:59 ET by katainkenta new troll. What's your shtick? Racism a la JRJ08? Classism al la Sterling? Mayhaps fearmongering accusations or picking on the lesser intelligence of the posters here a la 007memo....
Whatever the case - welcome to NB. Enjoy your stay, tip your waitress and try the veal.
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Barry
September 21, 2009 - 15:59 ET by okiehawk44This is called "Freedom of Expression" and "Free Speech" -- both of these are concepts leftists long ago dismissed as dangerous to the cause. No, now all the left waves are ACORN/SEIU made signs.
Sad. You guys are too far gone for any hope of redemption.
What of the substance of his comments?
September 21, 2009 - 16:18 ET by SlyrrYou point out the occasional loon in the tea party protests, and use it as a light dismissal of everything Ben said. I presume you're a liberal democrat, based solely on the tone of your own comments. If I'm mistaken, correct me - but I don't think I am since you seem to be echoing Matthews, Olberman, Huffington, Blitzer (pick any liberal news anchor/paper/magazine you like)...
Have you nothing to say about how Ben totally blasted the entire core of the liberal Democrat philosophy to smithereens?
What have the Democrats and the liberal left been pimping themselves as for years and years now?
a) They're the party of 'the working man' i.e. the 'poor'
b) They're the party that defends the old, the weak the feeble
c) They're the party of love, tolerance and understanding
And by logic, they intimate that since they are the party of those standards, then the Right and Republicans must be 'against' all those things since they're 'the opposition party' (or as the Obama media now quaintly says, 'the party of no')
Ben Stein totally demolished those foundations of liberal think-ology, using one of the liberal Democrats' most vocal standard-bearers, James Carville of Clinton apologist fame. This is the guy who said of all the women that Clinton ever victimized, that they were 'just trailer trash'. Here is the substance of Ben's comments, which seem to have utterly eluded you:
a) The Democrats have been making fun of the american people, their own voters, who have attended the protests - saying they are 'classless'. This destroys the liberal idea that Democrats are the party that stands up for 'the little guy', since liberal media, Carville, et. al have now just smeared the citizens of this country who oppose their agenda as 'classless'. They have set themselves up as the 'upper crust', the elites, the royalty of the country, who are just so much more rich, sophisticated and smart than the filthy stinking peons who vote for them....
b) Carville and other liberal politicians and media figureheads have mocked and sneered at all the 'old cranks' protesting Obama's agenda, his plans to conquer health care and seize it for his own like he did GM. So this blows to smithereens the notion that the Democrats and leftists 'respect' the elderly of this country. What they really mean is that they only respect them as far as the voting booth. After that, in Obama's america, if you're over 65 you're on your own. They'll mock you, laugh at you, say you're senile, and like Newsweek, they'll write articles called 'the case for killing grandma'. So much for Democrat respect for the elderly. Looks like the GOP is their only hope with Obama and the media all rubbing their hands together as they talk about giving old people some pain pills and then sending them home to die.
c) And ah yes - Democrats aren't racists. Only them gol-durn bitter-clinger gun-totin' Republicans are racists. Ben Stein laid that liberal myth in ruins too. Racism cuts both ways. You liberals bill yourselves as 'color blind' - the ones who don't care about the color of a person's skin.
But all you see when you look at groups is skin color, and Ben Stein laid your racism bare for the world to see. If you're so 'color blind', then why do you only see white people? Why do you ignore the blacks who are protesting? Why do you turn the cameras off when blacks protests the liberal agenda? And Hispanics? And asians? Where is your color blindness and your love, tolerance and understanding?
I guess you've 'never seen' that either. Maybe you've NEVER seen anyone in the crowd who wasn't a white person because you refuse to look. Or maybe you just agree with Carville that you yourselves are racist, elitist rich folks who hate the citizens of this country who won't bow down to your prejudices and bigotry.
"Wait a minute, I thought
September 21, 2009 - 16:42 ET by Barry Bonds"Wait a minute, I thought the Democrats were the party of the little guys and those who aren’t classy or well born."
Can't remember that part being in the Democrat mantra.
"So now the Democrats are admitting they’re the party of the rich? They’ve been getting the lion’s share of very large political gifts for years now. The truth is that the Democrats are the fat cats. I’m impressed that Mr. Carville admitted it."
Really Mr. Stein? You got all that out of his statement about classlessness? Wow.
"So now the Democrats don’t think the opinions of senior citizens are worth anything more than ridicule?"
Leap in logic much, Mr. Stein?
"I’ve seen other Democratic commentators making mock of the fact that the people at the tea parties were overwhelmingly white. So are we back to saying people’s political views only count if they have skin of a certain color?"
No, what they are trying to say is that these issues only seem to be an issue to a certain group of people. Why is that if we're all Americans? Why aren't their more groups fighting for the same cause? Why aren't these issues transcending races and age groups?
"Look, some of what is coming out of the tea parties baffles me and I don’t care for it. But a lot of it does make sense. What’s really amazed me is how the elitist anger of the liberal Democrats is boiling over as some ordinary citizens show they don’t like being pushed around."
Son in one sentence you acknowledge there are problems at these parties and in another sentence you're admonishing us for pointing it out?
:
September 21, 2009 - 17:49 ET by Slyrr"Wait a minute, I thought the Democrats were the party of the little guys and those who aren’t classy or well born."
Can't remember that part being in the Democrat mantra..."
Of course you don't. It was never anything but a dodge used by Democrats to trick poor people into voting for them - just like Obama did. How's that hope'n'change working for the millions of citizens Obama has put out of work?
"Really Mr. Stein? You got all that out of his statement about classlessness? Wow."
Is that really the best rejoinder which the vaunted intellect and harvard/yale/berkely-education of the left can come up with? 'Wow'? He was spot on in that observation. Democrats and leftists have been forging incestous relationships between big cash doners, left-leaning business cabals and such for decades. Can you say Soros? M. Moore? Freddie/Fannie which donated maximum to Obama/Frank/Dodd et. al and then found themselves exempt from scrutiny after these men were elected? How about Acorn - which beat the alleyways in 08 to register Mickey Mouse to vote for Obama - and found themselves the recipiencts of billions in taxpayer dollars? Thank goodness they've been exposed for the frauds that they are by the new media, which DIDN'T turn a blind eye to their corruption.
"Leap in logic much, Mr. Stein?"
Was that an 'answer' or not? Democrats say over and over how they respect the elderly, and how the evil GOP want to make the eat dog food, throw them out of their homes and turn off their oxygen machines. And only if you vote Democrat can they protect you from the eeeeeeevil GOP. Now the Democrats are mocking and sneering at the old, as Stein very correctly pointed out. How's that a leap in logic? It was your boy Carville who called the geezers. And lest you forget - it was an Obama supporter who maimed a senior citizen by biting off his finger at a protest. Is that Obama's plan for 'helping' the elderly? To send thugs after them to bite off their fingers one by one until they die and no one can hurt them again? Try as you might, you can't defend these people. Their words and actions are indefensible. Hark how the media laughed at the senior citizen, jeering 'bet he's glad he has medicare now'. You've become monsters who gnaw off the fingers and blood of the elderly and laugh about it later. Where's the logic in that?
"No, what they are trying to say is that these issues only seem to be an
issue to a certain group of people. Why is that if we're all
Americans? Why aren't their more groups fighting for the same cause?
Why aren't these issues transcending races and age groups? "
They are - there is plenty of evidence that folks of all ages, stripes and colors came together in their condemnation of a government that is out of control. You and your media just turn off the cameras when you come across them because all you choose to see are the white people. Or perhaps you choose to forget the black conservative who was attacked and brutalized by union thugs under Obama's command? No - you don't see that. All you see are white people. You reject the diversity of those who oppose this radical agenda because it doesn't fit your template.
"Son in one sentence you acknowledge there are problems at these parties
and in another sentence you're admonishing us for pointing it out?"
He admits that there is the occasional kook at these protests. But the vast, VAST majority of protestors are ordinary folks, middle class, the poor, blacks, whites, hispanics and so on. The diversitiy in social standing, race, gender and age is wide and far reaching.
But all the liberals and leftists see - again - are white people. Because they've decided it's all racist. Where are their famously 'open minds'? Where is their desire to hear 'all opinions in a free exchange of ideas'? Instead we've got elected representatives, who are supposed to be servants of the people, instead mocking the people - calling them nazis, evil mongers, racists, geezers, uneducated, unruly, mobsters and so on. We have Obama telling them to 'shut up and go away', instead of listening to the voice of the people. This is the elitism of which we've been warning. A government that believes that government is issued from them to the people - not from the people to them.
Pink Binky aka Barry Bonds is mad.
September 21, 2009 - 18:01 ET by JWFObamaCare is dead on arrival and the party in the minority killed it. Pink Binky is mad and has come here to kick tushy and chew bubblegum. Awwww, Pink Binky is all out of chewing gum.
You go girl. Kick tushy!
→ Pinky Binky
September 21, 2009 - 18:07 ET by Cool ArrowWatch out. That's when he is most dangerous.
Starts gnawing off fingers. But of course, it's the Right that's prone to violence, dontcha' know?
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
The NB "Death Pool"
September 21, 2009 - 20:30 ET by UnsanePink Binky, our new Statist/Socialist poster, is extremely angry all the time! 24/7. If he isn't extremely angry, he doesn't know what to do with himself.
There have been some very angry Socialist posters here as of late. "Barry Bonds", j. frank wilson, 007memo, just to name a few. Hell, they got everything they wanted in 2008 and they are STILL angry. In fact, I'd offer that they have each only gotten exponentially angrier and angrier and angrier with each day that has passed since then.
Many years ago, the Jim Rome radio show featured a "death pool": a group of athletes who appeared destined for very serious injury. In that spirit, I propose NB's first "death pool". This will consist of posters so livid, so overwhelmingly angry, that they appear headed for a very serious medical condition or occurrence if they don't cool it (like a heart attack, an aneurysm, severe nervous breakdown, etc). Naturally these will be Leftists, Statists, and Socialists, as the far reaching majority of Rightists don't walk around pissed off all the time; indeed, they really don't enjoy being pissed off as much as those named already. (Maybe it is some sexual thing. I don't know. I can't relate to people who seek to be angry all the time. There is too much to do in this world for that.)
So, my inaugural inductees to the NB "Death Pool" are "Barry Bonds", 007memo, and j. frank wilson. Any other additions are welcome.
This is hardly threatening but in some way a public service. There are some Leftists/Statists/Socialists who need to just chill out and learn to take the time to enjoy life.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Great idea, Unsane
September 21, 2009 - 20:37 ET by FeynmanFanI'd like to also nominate nwahs. He gets pretty wrapped around the axle sometimes.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
j frank wilson is on my troll watch.
September 21, 2009 - 20:38 ET by JWFHe has not been back since I busted him with the Bush hid his dd-214 lie. Kinda hard to get a form from the Department of Defense stating how many days you worked for the Department of Defense when you never served a day of active duty.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
good ol' frankie
September 21, 2009 - 21:32 ET by UnsaneI'm still waiting for frankie to show how NBers are being racist bigots for being critical of the current regime. I imagine that proof will be a long time in coming.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I predict a long wait.
September 21, 2009 - 21:34 ET by Free StinkerI predict a long wait.
Classless Crowd
September 21, 2009 - 16:25 ET by BlondeGo take a gander at zombietime if you care to see classless crowds.
You liberals are all the same, no imagination whatsoever.
I hope he fails, too.
"I guess you've never
September 21, 2009 - 16:30 ET by G. MayWhy don't you quantify for us your observation of "some"? Put that into some ballpark numbers to make your argument stronger. Of course no one would expect you to know exact percentages or numbers, but with your certitude, I'm sure you can give us an idea.
Also, please explain further how these signs were "featured" at the events you mention.
Never? Really? Weren't you just hectoring us all on other threads that President Carter and other pundits weren't saying all of the opposition to Obama was racist? So now you're ludicrously claiming that all the protesters were racist*, simply because you haven't seen universal condemnation of some (currently un-numbered) posters at a protest.
So far there is no evidence as of yet to support your claim that these posters were "featured", and that the number of these "featured" posters is in the extreme minority (until you graciously provide evidence otherwise). Would you expect tens of thousands of protesters to see these posters? Would you expect the few professional reporters that were there to cover each and every protesters stern denouncement of these apparently rampant classless loons? Would you expect these people to spend their time, money, and effort protesting a few protesters instead of that for which they came?
Of course you wouldn't. Your thought process couldn't possibly be this warped.
So please, provide something of substance to support your claims.
(* I know you said classless, offensive, and unnecessary, but that's all in reference to racist rhetoric in your eyes, is it not?)
You need to go back and
September 21, 2009 - 16:50 ET by Barry BondsYou need to go back and re-read. We're talking about classlessness - not race. GET OVER IT!
Then please, tell us
September 21, 2009 - 17:19 ET by G. MayThen please, tell us exactly how the protesters have lacked class.
Your particular words were "unnecessary" and "offensive". Please tell us exactly how they were unnecessary and offensive.
Considering you've postulated that ALL of these protesters are behaving so classless, offensive, and unnecessarily, it would be helpful if you could provide numerous examples of such.
Barry Bonds = one trick pony
September 21, 2009 - 17:21 ET by candanceHe bounces from one thread to another here whining about 9/12 protestors exclusively.
whine some more!
September 21, 2009 - 17:23 ET by katainkentI don't know about you but the more spun the trolls get about that, the happier I am :)
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? Hhmm
September 21, 2009 - 19:39 ET by general companyThere was someone else who was particularly offended by the 9/12 group?
Oh well, I am an AL guy anyway!
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Me too.
September 21, 2009 - 22:08 ET by AlanaMe too. (to Katainkent)
You hit the nail squarely
September 21, 2009 - 19:23 ET by G. MayYou hit the nail squarely on the head.
For the sake of argument
September 21, 2009 - 21:44 ET by Barry BondsFor the sake of argument let's say the protester are NOT classless. Why are so many on the Left convinced that they are?
With the media providing 24 hours a day of protestor coverage it is a bit disingen - heck you're lying if you're saying that you haven't seen some classless behavior from the protestors. That is the beauty of living in the "information age" you have access to all the information you need at the click of a mouse.
If your arguments are relying on my not having archived each or ANY incident of indecent behavior by the protestors than you are weaker than I thought. I KNOW you know what I am referring to and your feigned ignorance isn't impressing anyone. You are better off arguing degrees of classless discourse and resentment than arguing the existence.
BB
September 21, 2009 - 21:49 ET by Free StinkerFor the sake of argument let's say the protester are NOT classless. Why are so many on the Left convinced that they are?
PROJECTING
"24 hours a day of protestor coverage?"
September 22, 2009 - 09:20 ET by Indiana JoeUmm, excuse me, but don't you mean "24 hours a day of protestor bashing?" Coz, I didn't see more than about 10 minutes of coverage of the 9/12 marches on ANY of the major networks, broadcast OR cable. FoxNews did give it a little more coverage, but hardly "24 hours" worth.
In fact, Brian Williams of NBC claimed afterwards to not even have known there was a protest!
Besides, what coverage the MSM did give the protests was obviously going to focus on "the worst" signs and protestors. Ergo, your misunderstanding that "many" or "most" or "all" or whatever number of protestors were "classless" is... well, understandable.
Cheers.
"Four legs good... two legs better!" - George Orwell
You mean like these, Barry?
September 21, 2009 - 16:44 ET by motherbeltfeaturing the most offensive and unneccessary signs and pictures.
You mean like these?
Of course, none of those could be called "racist" because Bush isn't black. Not even the one picturing him as a monkey.
But making fun or caricatures of a black President is racist, so it's so much worse, right?
Oh, is that the way it works in Libtopia?
September 21, 2009 - 17:04 ET by SickofLibsYeah, lib demonstrators are famous for telling each other "Say, my moonbat brother, your sign is a little over the top."
Evidence abounds.
Hey, Binky Braveheart's little sister pipes in again. Go girl!
September 21, 2009 - 17:36 ET by JWFThe exception to the rule gene runs deep in that family.
Yo Miss Pink Binky,
17 million people attended town halls this summer. How many of the are you talking about here. I went to a town hall. No signs. No yelling. The TV cameras got bored and left after 45 minutes.
Are you calling me offensive? Do you think I had unneccessary signs and pictures?
Also, what the hell are you talking about here?
You looking to get banned and go back to KosKidsKamp in record time huh?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
I can't teach you reading
September 21, 2009 - 21:52 ET by Barry BondsI can't teach you reading comprehension - that was your 5th grade teachers job.
I love the way you guys like to play victim. I have never seen a group of people so willing to interject themselves into a situation just so they can claim victimhood.
"Am I among the classless? Am I vile and disgusting?"
My answer to you is: it depends. Were you acting classless, vile and disgusting?
You can't teach something
September 21, 2009 - 21:55 ET by Free StinkerYou can't teach something you don't know.
I'm sure all agree that you can't teach reading comprehension.
FS,
September 21, 2009 - 22:03 ET by BarkerOuch, that's gonna leave a mark.
Swing batter batter.....
Barry asks:
September 21, 2009 - 22:08 ET by Barker"Am I among the classless? Am I vile and disgusting?"
Yes; yes you are, Barry.
Thanks for asking.
They're also civil
September 21, 2009 - 18:19 ET by CobraMan"Hence, a classless crowd."
It's more like: Hence a clueless liberal. That "classless" crowd you dismiss committed no crimes, assaulted no other person, created no mayhem, smashed no windows, overturned no cars, burned no building, tossed no trash at passing pedestrians threatened no violence, and acted with far more civility than any "classy" liberal protest. But, hay, a few carried signs that you feel are racist. Oh, the Humanity!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
So Baz, Did you call
September 21, 2009 - 19:18 ET by kangarooSo Baz,
Did you call yourself baz cause you wanted to be like bozo?
The One
September 21, 2009 - 15:55 ET by StarAZThe One and his helpers are finding out America's a tough room. Good for you, Ben!
hehehe
September 21, 2009 - 16:04 ET by katainkent"The Party of Ut-oh..."
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
Kat... Ut-oh is
September 21, 2009 - 16:29 ET by bigtimerKat...
Ut-oh is right...and there is so much more to come down the pike.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Carville is a retard
September 21, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Joe CamelNo one can be as stupid as Carville, well, Mr. Reichhhhhh maybe, but seriously, no one takes him seriously in the world. Like Obama, I turn him off if I hear his voice...click..
Ben Stein
September 21, 2009 - 16:07 ET by katainkentmakes many good points and makes them with class. The Dems have shed their sheeps clothing and no one seems to be paying much attention.
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"Where mah gumbo?"
September 21, 2009 - 16:32 ET by Chris NormanLast year, I found out, much to my dismay, that Carville is an umpty umpth cousin of mine. While I don't ever expect to see him at any potential bayou family reunion - if I do, I'll be sure to spill punch all over him.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
That's OK, Chris. All
September 21, 2009 - 16:38 ET by Kat Outta the BagThat's OK, Chris. All family trees have a few nuts in them. ;-)
You don't understand. My
September 21, 2009 - 16:48 ET by Chris NormanYou don't understand. My family is so undistinguished, Carville would be the shiny star at the top of the tree. Sigh...
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Hey Chris... I think your
September 21, 2009 - 18:42 ET by bigtimerHey Chris...
I think your star alone would outshine the likes of Carville any day.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Hey give him a
September 21, 2009 - 19:28 ET by kangarooHey give him a MindEraser,(stoli/Kaluha/rocks/ sucked threw a straw) and then spill punch all over him, he he he
PS shouldn't take more than one
"MindEraser?"
September 22, 2009 - 09:26 ET by Indiana JoeOther than the straw, sounds like a "Black Russian."
Oops, I mean an "African-American Russian."
Errr.. an "African-Russian?"
Wait, wait... a "Russian of Color?"
Ah, to hell with it!
;^)
"Four legs good... two legs better!" - George Orwell
It appears that these
September 21, 2009 - 16:34 ET by Chris NormanIt appears that these Democrat commentators have all ceased putting any thought at all behind their words and now merely spew out the most provoking bileous insults they can come up with.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Carville
September 21, 2009 - 16:53 ET by Lu KingIsn't carville a white, senior citizen? He certainly looks it to me. So, why is snake attacking them?
This kind of puts it in perspective for me.
September 21, 2009 - 17:12 ET by Dragonsbreathhttp://www.daybydaycartoon.com/2009/09/20/
"1/20/2013 The end of a Error"
classless
September 21, 2009 - 17:36 ET by cajun2OK, Louisiana apologizes, James Carville, Donna Brazile, David Vitter, and sto' bought Mary Landrieu. Yep, I am sorry.
Gov Jindal
September 21, 2009 - 21:41 ET by UnsaneLA might make up for it yet. There is still Bobby Jindal. AND he was voted into office when LA figured out how badly they blew it by voting in Kathleen Blanco.
There is still hope, my friendly neighbors. :-)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
All I know is
September 21, 2009 - 17:38 ET by ThoreauEvery Constitutionally law abiding and armed citizen is a friend of mine. The rest can blow.
This is why I'm not worried about what's coming. It's like being afraid to fight the French.
I know who my grand parents are who they fought and why. They aren't right wing extremists or astroturf or mathematically deficient when calculating the Federal deficit at 59 Trillion dollars.
But let's be honest. This is Carville. He would polish Putin's shoes for a nickle. But Obama did it for less. FTA.
Well Carville certainly
September 21, 2009 - 18:14 ET by Jack BauerWell Carville certainly puts the ass into class. But bravo Ben Stein.
An example of classless protesters...
September 21, 2009 - 18:29 ET by caiobabewas when the TP Express rolled through Flagstaff AZ.
Flagstaff isn't that big but there managed to be almost 1000 in the group some holding signs declaring their nationalism and such. Not ONE person there was out of line in any way. FOLKS WITH CLASS !
The losers were the ones on the opposite side of the street who showed up to counter the TP'ers. Nearly all of them were holding up signs which were vile, tasteless and made racial claims directed at the TP group. It's like they wanted to start a fight. Some even managed to infiltrate the tea partiers and were quickly recognized and then escourted out by the police. What was worse was the infiltrators tried to appear as if they belonged in the TP group thereby to make the group as a whole look evil, look racist and to give the appearence of being anti-Obama. They got thrown right out!
Now, when is the mainstream press, the Cajun idiot or even the "juicer" troll here going to see that there is definately a concerted effort to ruin the real voice of the true Tea Party Express?
Take heart. They can't
September 21, 2009 - 22:14 ET by AlanaTake heart. They can't ruin it. Our family, friends, and neighbors know it's just us, and they know we're good people. Now multiply that by millions.
I am officially requesting the Barry Bonds troll be banned now.
September 21, 2009 - 19:06 ET by JWFhttp://newsbusters.org/forums/internal-affairs/can-we-ban-barry-bonds-troll-lickety-split-please-32934
Why in God's name? Are
September 21, 2009 - 19:10 ET by NL207Why in God's name? Are you afraid of what he says? Most of it is pure falsehood and easily dispatched. Second class arguments like his in defense of the indefensible make good lessons about the evils of leftism.
Let him post. He will get tired of the pasting he's taking sooner or later.
Of course he is afraid of
September 21, 2009 - 19:49 ET by Barry BondsOf course he is afraid of what I type because I am telling the truth.
Why else who "banishment" be on his mind as he said after 3 short days.
Clear cut indication that I am doing a good job.
Thanks for the endorsement.
BB... Clear cut
September 21, 2009 - 19:59 ET by bigtimerBB...
Clear cut indication that I am doing a good job.
You finally gave me something to really laugh about.
Ask Soros for a raise.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
The truth? The truth is
September 21, 2009 - 20:32 ET by G. MayThe truth? The truth is what you've been smacked up and down this website with in just three short days.
If that is true then you
September 21, 2009 - 21:56 ET by Barry BondsIf that is true then you will have not problems showing where I made a point and it was proven to be false or inferior to a greater point made by another person.
Now, make sure you pick a good one because if you don't I am going to really give you a spanking.
Chances are you're going to get a spanking anyway. Hahahahaha.....
Maybe this little refresher
September 21, 2009 - 22:09 ET by NL207Maybe this little refresher will help your memory. Point-by-point deconstruction.
Barry Bonds:
September 21, 2009 - 22:44 ET by BarkerPerhaps you picked the wrong sports guy as your father/mother figure.
You should have gone with Rocky Marciano.
'Cause you're on the ropes now.....
You seem to be completely
September 21, 2009 - 21:58 ET by NL207You seem to be completely oblivious! I wasn't endorsing you. I view you as a target. Someone whose arguments are to be discredited and destroyed. I regard you as nothing more than another second rate liberal hack.
NL - you are a kind
September 21, 2009 - 22:00 ET by Free StinkerNL - you are a kind generous person.
I would only rate BB as a third rate liberal hack. ;-)
I wonder if he uses
September 21, 2009 - 22:03 ET by NL207I wonder if he uses performance enhancing substances as his real-life namesake did. In his case, I should think a good stiff dose of Viagra is in order.
He sure isn't using any
September 21, 2009 - 22:06 ET by Free StinkerHe sure isn't using any brain performance enhancement substances . . .
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
I dunno
September 21, 2009 - 20:43 ET by katainkentgives me something fun to read while I make dinner. Kind of a ... cross betweeen pi314, 007memo, and JRJ08. Prolific, hyperbolic, uninformed and rude all at the same time. Its like a.. one stop shopping troll. ;)
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Classless Carville
September 21, 2009 - 19:13 ET by LoosMooseI was one of the cockpit crewmembers that flew Carville and Clinton on one of their campaign charters before the 1992 election and saw what both men were really like when no one was looking.
Clinton is what he is, he can schmooze ANYONE because he is so well prepared, but you have NO IDEA of how crass Carville is when the cameras are turned off.
Ever notice how much this
September 21, 2009 - 19:18 ET by NL207Ever notice how much this sneering statist resembles some sort of Frankenstein monster?
Hey LM... Maybe someday
September 21, 2009 - 19:22 ET by bigtimerHey LM...
Maybe someday you could write a tell-all best-seller...eh?
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Oh I just wish
September 21, 2009 - 19:35 ET by HogTideRebelCatsWere these two Clowns close enough to get them on the cockpit voice recorder???
Please tell me yes. Can we get the FAA to release the recording?
One Word
September 21, 2009 - 20:27 ET by DoktorFrankenThere's one word to describe the Left's actions these days:
Alinsky
the works of Lois Lowry,
September 22, 2009 - 00:18 ET by Free Stinkerthe works of Lois Lowry, and the music of Paul Wilbur.
Who ? ? ? ? ?
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
Lowry and Wilbur
September 22, 2009 - 00:21 ET by candanceLois Lowry = best children's author ever. Wrote the award-winning book The Giver which literally changed my life and spurned my decision to become a writer.
Paul Wilbur = Messianic Jew who does folksy praise/worship music in Israel.
Most of my reading these
September 22, 2009 - 00:25 ET by Free StinkerMost of my reading these days is Larry Wall.
who is Larry Wall?
September 22, 2009 - 00:27 ET by candanceNot sure about him.
(sigh) I keep
September 22, 2009 - 00:33 ET by Free Stinker(sigh)
I keep forgeting, you're not in IT.
"We didn't put in '^^' because we'd have to keep telling people what it meant, and then we'd have to keep telling them why it doesn't short-circuit." --Larry Wall
Free
September 22, 2009 - 00:34 ET by MrShyLarry Wall?
???
Larry Wall. Creator of
September 22, 2009 - 00:40 ET by Free StinkerLarry Wall. Creator of Perl.
"And don't tell me there isn't one bit of difference between null and space, because that's exactly how much difference there is" --Larry Wall
he does sound interesting
September 22, 2009 - 00:43 ET by candanceHubby has probably heard of him.
Incidentally make your possible children read The Giver. It teaches the lessons from 1984 in a way that children can more easily absorb.
Ah, right. I'm being
September 22, 2009 - 00:44 ET by Free StinkerAh, right. I'm being boring again.
not being boring
September 22, 2009 - 00:53 ET by candanceJust wanted to throw that in there.
Seriously, had never heard of Larry Wall before. Does he write fiction, or do you read like instructional books?
(my apologies in advance if the above question sounds moronic)
ETA: Just checked his bio on wikipedia. He seems to be a pretty cool guy. My mom was raised Nazarene.
Candance - you're supposed
September 22, 2009 - 00:42 ET by Free StinkerCandance - you're supposed to ask: "Didn't he create Perl? And didn't he name that after the parable of the Pearl?"
oops
September 22, 2009 - 00:49 ET by candanceJust caught your reference to the parable and not the Steinbeck book. Color me an airhead.
Stay classy,
September 22, 2009 - 07:54 ET by wiwfStay classy, carville.
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
I see a big
September 22, 2009 - 10:02 ET by jessieHI see a big change in washington in 2012. The people are getting angry with the idiot journalists. Keep calling us names. George Soros spent millions trying to get Bush out of office in 2004. It didn't work. Soros is spending billions trying to keep obama in office. It won't work. Once we get rid of the corrupt congressmen & senators, the fringe journalists will not be able to stop us from knowing the truth. The rag-mags are dying. They are commiting suicide.
If Conservatives had taken
September 22, 2009 - 17:41 ET by RR GOPIf Conservatives had taken to the streets to support our troops during Vietnam (or Iraq and Afghanistan for that matter), I don't think the idea of protest being the sole realm of the Leftists would hold any water now.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.