At the top of the 4:00PM ET hour on MSNBC Friday, fill-in co-anchor Monica Novotny issued a dire warning about protests at health care town hall meetings: "The town hall confrontations are turning violent....Where is all of this heading? New fears for the safety of America’s first African-American president." [Audio/video (0:33): Mp3 | WMV]
In a later segment, co-anchor David Shuster interviewed Virginia Democratic Congressman Jim Moran and asked: "We know that threats to President Obama are up by like something 400% compared to the Bush administration. Is this putting our president in some sort of danger because of some wacko that will see this stuff and say, ‘oh, yes, it’s fascism and the way we dealt with Adolf Hitler was to try to kill him, so therefore, let’s do this with our president.’"
Congressman Moran responded to that outrageous scenario by remarking: "Well, you know, it only took – takes one person. It took one person to shoot Ronald Reagan, Jack Kennedy, and so on. But I think the Secret Service can be trusted to protect the President. But it does discredit those people who are using such extreme measures to achieve an objective which is really corporate profit."
Here is a full transcript of the segment:
4:00PM TEASE:
MONICA NOVOTNY: Plus, the town hall confrontations are turning violent. Disruptions have been encouraged by GOP operatives, and Rush Limbaugh is adding to the extremism.
RUSH LIMBAUGH: Obama’s got a health care logo that’s right out of Adolf Hitler’s play book.
NOVOTNY: Where is all of this heading? New fears for the safety of America’s first African-American president.
4:05PM SEGMENT:
DAVID SHUSTER: The anger, despite the good economic news of course, there’s still all that anger over health care. And the anger and fury at town hall meetings around the country is reaching a fever pitch, just as Congress heads home for their summer recess.
UNIDENTIFIED CROWD [TAMPA, FLORIDA TOWN HALL: You work for us! You work for us! You work for us!
SHUSTER: That was Tampa, Florida last night and a crowd attempting to get into a packed meeting which turned into a shoving match with some people being forced out. And watch what happened in Missouri.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN [ST. LOUIS, MISSOURI TOWN HALL]: You attacked him! You’re going to jail!
SHUSTER: That became a street fight. It broke out near St. Louis, following yet another contentious town hall held by Congressman Russ Carnahan. Joining us live from studio here in Washington is Democratic Congressman Jim Moran of Virginia, who told the newspaper, The Hill, he’s looking forward to his upcoming town hall meetings. Congressman Moran, if you get a bunch of people who try to shout you down and don’t want to let you explain what you’re doing, what are you going to do?
JIM MORAN: I think we can deal with it. Frankly, David, I would pit my liberals against their conservatives any day, but – but also we have some benefit. The fact that we – all we have to do is stick to the facts. I think the majority of the American people agree with what we’re trying to do. I think our motivation is stronger, we’re really motivated out of compassion for the people who are uninsured and fiscal responsibility, and I think that trumps greed and partisanship, which seems to be what’s driving these disruptions.
SHUSTER: But if somebody interrupts you and somebody won’t let you explain and they keep shouting and screaming, how do you react?
MORAN: Well, I’ve been in politics for 30 years and I think we can control the microphones. I want to let – I want to hear them out and let them speak, even if they’re shouting at us, but they can’t control the town hall meeting. You know, the purpose of these is to get the facts out, to hear other people’s point of view, but it really ought to be a reflective point of view and talk about what we can do to make the bill better rather than simply trying to shout my colleagues down, who are simply trying to explain what it is we’re trying to do, why we’re trying to do it, and listen for suggestions on how we can do it better. This is a great opportunity to make a better bill and one that’s more representative of what the people want, but it unfortunately is being used as an opportunity to kill any progress on health reform.
SHUSTER: What do you make of the groups, the Republican operatives, who are helping to sort of fuel this stuff and, secondly, you start to see the swastikas and the Nazi comparisons. We know that threats to President Obama are up by like something 400% compared to the Bush administration. Is this putting our president in some sort of danger because of some wacko that will see this stuff and say, ‘oh, yes, it’s fascism and the way we dealt with Adolf Hitler was to try to kill him, so therefore, let’s do this with our president.’
MORAN: Well, you know, it only took – takes one person. It took one person to shoot Ronald Reagan, Jack Kennedy, and so on. But I think the Secret Service can be trusted to protect the President. But it does discredit those people who are using such extreme measures to achieve an objective which is really corporate profit. Many of them, not all of them, but many are being driven by these industries that are making billions of dollars off the current system so they can afford to pay several million to the lobbyists who then organize this allegedly grassroots effort, much of it really is being organized out of Washington. So – and I think that the people who belong in those town hall meetings, who live in those neighborhoods, are going to understand that right away. I think this whole effort is going to backfire. By the end of the month I think you’ll see a real turnaround in public opinion. And part of it is because they’re discrediting themselves. Every time they quote Rush Limbaugh, they really discredit themselves. He has a niche, an audience that loves to – to listen to that kind of, you know – well, let me not characterize what – Rush Limbaugh, but – but it’s becoming a more and more limited audience. And I think the vast majority of the American people want something done. They know we’re trying to do the right thing, and they certainly don‘t want this country to be guided by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and that kind of nonsensical rhetoric.
NOVOTNY: Congressman, you mentioned your decades of experience in Washington. It seems to be your sense, by what I’m hearing, that you do not believe, then, that this is a grassroots effort, that you believe this is being orchestrated. Who do you think’s behind it all?
MORAN: I think that the industries that have benefitted from the status quo, some of the insurance companies, certainly some of the very conservative groups who – who don’t want change. They – they’re opposed to government involvement. Now – and it’s easy for the American people to pick up on that. To suggest – in fact, I’ve had people say to me, ‘keep the government off my Medicare.’ Well, of course, Medicare is run by the government, as is Medicaid and the Veterans Administration. I can’t imagine any veteran who wouldn’t want the health care system they have, and yet some of them are afraid of what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to make health care affordable for everybody, and President Obama has insisted that we use the private sector, that we not nationalize health insurance. He doesn’t believe in socialism. He believes in perfecting the system that we have and Speaker Pelosi has insisted we stick to the facts. Don’t embellish them. Just make it clear to the American people what we’re doing and why.
SHUSTER: Congressman Jim Moran, Democrat of Virginia. Congressman, thanks so much. When you have those town halls we will be there with cameras.
MORAN: I’d love to have you there.
SHUSTER: We’ll be eager to see what your reaction and the reaction of your staff is going to be if someone tries to mess with you.
MORAN: I think it might be fun.
SHUSTER: Thanks for coming on today. We appreciate it.
MORAN: Thanks, David.
SHUSTER: Yeah Monica, I don’t think anybody wants to mess with this guy.
NOVOTNY: No, no, definitely not. Definitely not, David.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Who's the threat?
August 7, 2009 - 16:28 ET by CobraMan"The town hall confrontations are turning violent."
They sure are. Just recently a Conservative was attacked by Union members. I bet those members are all democrats too. So, who's the threat?
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Projection
August 7, 2009 - 16:39 ET by JustAlIt isn't just for movies anymore.
Who is the bigger idiot here, the propagandist who thinks "we" tried to kill Hitler, or the elected official who theoretically should display enough maturity to dismiss the question for what it was. . . the ravings of someone desperate to get a job in the administration.
At a minimum, this person should be taken to task by the secret service for encouraging political assasination. Isn't it interesting that the first one to mention this with reference was the Hildabeast herself, and to my memory only those on the left have ever brought this up in the media.
The Dear Leader's message has been muddled lately so...
August 7, 2009 - 16:39 ET by JTP"SHUSTER: Congressman Jim Moran, Democrat of Virginia. Congressman,
thanks so much. When you have those town halls we will be there with
cameras."
We will ensure that Obumblers "plan" is reported properly.
"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem
Assassination movie
August 7, 2009 - 16:41 ET by TexndocWasn't there a fantasy kill-Bush assassination film that had the leftoids positively passing each other the smelling salts they were so pleased when he was in office?
Well......I guess if David
August 7, 2009 - 16:42 ET by Radar_OneWell......I guess if David Shuster says so...its got to be true!
I guess that Barry Sotero didn't think that his real radical agenda would be welcomed with such dissent...the "Yes We Can" zombie chants must have went to his head!
Barack Obama= Half Honkey...ALL Donkey
Also it looks like the
August 7, 2009 - 16:44 ET by Radar_OneAlso it looks like the Brownshirts are now issued SEIU T Shirts!!!
Remember the Obama Army of kids from Youtube last yr...
Barack Obama= Half Honkey...ALL Donkey
MSNBC: Congressmen might be attacked during first-class flights!
August 7, 2009 - 16:52 ET by TrickletownThe Shuster/Novotny show today also had host Novotny asking: " Maybe they( Dem Congresspeople) need these expensive private jets because if they fly first-class, they may be assaulted, or worse."
Tt... I am getting real
August 7, 2009 - 17:02 ET by bigtimerTt...
I am getting real sick of this BS about any of these people getting threats...including O from the Americans that are attending these Tea Parties and Town Hall Meetings etc....
PROVE IT!
Put up or shut up.
The only people who have been attacked, physically are the AMERICAN people....that are voicing their opinions, that have the right to ASSEMBLE!
This fear, intimidation, lying propaganda is going to backfire on all of you...you're all to dense to realize it...yet.
...and by the way, congress are not royalty, the tax payers are paying for 8 danged private jets for them....I want answers about that...and I just imagine millions others do to as we have to cut our budgets...they do the opposite...in spades.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Moran is a moron...along
August 7, 2009 - 16:54 ET by bigtimerMoran is a moron...along with the rest of the critters spewing on this show with their 24/7 messiah propaganda...msnbc are besides themselves, they have been for a week or more now, big time.
I'm not looking up the past things Moran has spewed that would get any repub in trouble, instead the msm covered for him, as always.
Btw Moran said this:
Frankly, David, I would pit my liberals against their conservatives any
day, but – but also we have some benefit. The fact that we – all we
have to do is stick to the facts. I think the majority of the American
people agree with what we’re trying to do.
This is how deaf, dumb and stupid they are...and I am serious...he doesn't see the forest for the trees does he?
...and I am sick to death of them using Rush every single day.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Sure he would
August 7, 2009 - 17:38 ET by general company, I would pit my liberals against their conservatives any
day,
Thats why they feel the need to censor us, malign us, lie about us and who we are, and use the victim and race cards to defend themselves with. There is a good reason their hcan memo say's not to debate us, because they have nothing to debate us with, just threats and name calling.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I would pit my liberals against their conservatives any day
August 7, 2009 - 18:14 ET by SickofLibsI don't know, the picture I get in my mind is a whole horde of Peewee Hermans mincing menacingly towards me.
Novotny?
August 7, 2009 - 17:01 ET by slickwillie2001Wasn't Novotny a cold war communist media outlet? Apropos.
August 7, 2009 - 17:21 ET by jessieHMr.obama wasn't the one who was assaulted. It was a protester. PMSNBC=DUMB ASS Angry Mobster
threats?!
August 7, 2009 - 17:29 ET by sojournerGood grief, why is anyone who disagrees with this president a racist, Nazi, or a threat to him?! People have always disagreed with presidents - he is not special, though they seem to think so - threat? He is the threat - a threat to our freedoms.
soj... Bulls-Eye....and
August 7, 2009 - 17:33 ET by bigtimersoj...
Bulls-Eye....and the American people are seeing this and doing something about it.
How dare they!
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
You know...
August 7, 2009 - 17:32 ET by BKeyserthis is reaching the level of serious derangement. I'm no clinical psychiatrist, but the rationale behind some of these stories has gone way beyond any stretch of reason. This one's got its roots in crazytown.
No, this is one has it's
August 7, 2009 - 19:02 ET by Chris NormanNo, this is one has it's roots in Slander Town.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Fake threats
August 7, 2009 - 17:34 ET by slickwillie2001When these 'reports' of threats are used as excuses by democratics, the media needs to follow up with the local police forces and ask if a report has been made, details, etc. When they find there's nothing there it needs to be reported.
Couldn't agree more, I'm
August 7, 2009 - 17:41 ET by bigtimerCouldn't agree more, I'm more than sick of this BS...and I just imagine others are too all across this land.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Every Time
August 7, 2009 - 17:50 ET by DoktorFrankenEvery time David Shuster opens his mouth it smells like donkey dung in a tri-state area for at least 2 days afterward. And now this Monica beeotch is stankin' up the place.
If it takes just one....
August 7, 2009 - 18:15 ET by SRPwrdshouldn't we declare martial law so that no one has a chance?
"I believe in American Exceptionalism, just like Brits believe in British Exceptionalism and Greeks believe in Greek Exceptionalism." - PreBO, 4/4/09
SCREENCAP
August 7, 2009 - 18:17 ET by the strugglerSchuster makes Pee-Wee Herman look like The Macho Man,Randy Savage
money quote!
August 8, 2009 - 02:12 ET by AgentAmericanMoney shot, struggler.
That's because Schuster has a bushy tail and eats nuts.
2010: A GOP Hill
Saying that townhall protestors
August 7, 2009 - 18:46 ET by Prester John...are a threat to BHO's life is like saying Poland was a threat to Hitler for daring to fight back.
Thank goodness this crap
August 7, 2009 - 18:57 ET by Chris NormanThank goodness this crap was on MSNBC where there are as many people in the studio as in the audience.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Chris... You got that
August 7, 2009 - 19:11 ET by bigtimerChris...
You got that right!
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
"Is this putting our
August 7, 2009 - 19:10 ET by ckc1227"Is this putting our president in some sort of danger"
Are you kidding? With Biden and Pelosi next in line, Obama is one of the safest presidents ever.
Obama hasn't attended a
August 7, 2009 - 20:06 ET by BigSky1970Obama hasn't attended a single town hall to date. Who are they kidding?
Suppose to be in Bozeman on
August 7, 2009 - 20:30 ET by bigtimerSuppose to be in Bozeman on the 14th I think it is...was supposedly booked as a Town Hall type thing, it won't be from what I've read later, it will be a fundraiser at a huge expensive lodge, I saw pictures of it... he was suppose to in Kalispell too...that was canceled.
He's here to pressure Baucus also...he's going to be going to be pressuring Ben Nelson too with a stop-off from what I read, plus other stops in the west/NW west, we shall see...one thing is for sure, the msm will cover it.
I wished he would just get off the TV, I have never been more sick of a single politician in my whole entire life as I am of seeing him...and I'm being polite.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
BIGSKY1990...
August 7, 2009 - 21:07 ET by danybhoyWhy should he meet with the people. Obama does'nt give a damn about the people. Everything he has done is for those who put him where he is. The Unions, Trial Lawyers, Community Thugs, Wall Street, & George Soros.
But who is really at threat? Is it Obama? Politically maybe, & he should be. The American people & our Republic? This is what is really under siege. The nation as we know it & love it will be over & done with if there is no real push back in the next 2 election cycles. The 2110 midterms are a while ways off, & what is left of the GOP/cons needs to hold the line until then. Win back as many seats as possible, then find the right candidate & wipe out Obama once & for all.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
dany... I have hope we
August 7, 2009 - 21:10 ET by bigtimerdany...
I have hope we may take back the House the way things are going now.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Actualy DB
August 7, 2009 - 21:14 ET by general companyI think a few of them need to go to jail for trying to trample the Constitution as they have. This is going to get bad, just wait, only the begining
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I just cannot believe what
August 7, 2009 - 21:19 ET by bigtimerI just cannot believe what I am hearing coming out of David Rotham Gergen's yapper right at the moment about this all regarding the TH Meetings...he is critizing the repub leaders for not stopping this violence blah blah blah...
I despise this shrunk-up pickle of a man, I have long ago.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT
August 7, 2009 - 21:45 ET by general companyEvery conserative I have heard speak and every written word has suggested that we be repectful and peaceful. As far as I can tell we are holding up our end.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Exactly gc...that's why
August 7, 2009 - 21:50 ET by bigtimerExactly gc...that's why this is so maddening...this country has gone mad when it comes to the arrogance from the leftist of all stripes, let alone the over-paid talking heads.
They are still not getting it yet...guess it may sink in sooner rather than later though...regardless if they like it or not.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
IT IS ONLY THE BEGINING...
August 7, 2009 - 21:31 ET by danybhoy...& things will get worse before they better. What is truly sad is that I have been thinking about what might be the end result. If Obama & his Chicago thugs ram down our throats the heavy handed change they seek like...
Obama-care Socialized medicine...
Cap N'Slave...
Forced unionization with CardCheck...
clamp down on radio with "Localism/Fairness Doctrine"...
& come down on the 2nd amendment...
I know of nobody who put up with too much of any of those things, & I get get the feeling that many will try to opt out. There are those who say an actual republic can last only as long as the people figure out they can vote themselves goodies from public funds. In other words, your typical liberal/progressive Democrat, the ZERO LIABILITY VOTER. They don't put in, but they take out. Once they rule the roost, it's over, & were very close indeed.
I hope I'm wrong in my elvaluation, but doubt it. I fear for my nation.
"...How blind can you be, don't you see...
...that the gambler lost all he does not have..."
Nightwish
geez louise
August 7, 2009 - 20:28 ET by candanceThese people are really scared. Pulling out every stop they can think of.
So we need to keep pushing
August 7, 2009 - 21:10 ET by Radical1979So we need to keep pushing back.
So..
August 7, 2009 - 20:56 ET by Joe CamelSo who is pulling these folks on the left's strings out there? We know that there are those behind them, organized by them. I am on Obama's mail list, which I get mail daily, asking me to go door to door, call, mail and attend these get togethers. So, what is the difference? Oh, don't forget thee "donate" button always there.
Funny thing is that all the blacks who get in such a tizzy all the time, it is some white guy masterminding all this, just pushing them along where he wants them; and they are so caught up in this "One" thing, they miss it. The only way I know any of this is by reading like most educated people, as I can not nor do I trust the MSM to inform me; seems to be the norm now. So...here we are.
You'd think that if he was
August 7, 2009 - 21:56 ET by pitter43You'd think that if he was 1/2 as smart as he says he is, no one knows for sure, he'd realize that maybe he should do things a little differently. Deliberately destroying America is bound to make some angry.
Most people worry about
August 8, 2009 - 04:53 ET by Alicia_CMost people worry about hooligans at soccer matches, but now it's starting to surface that conservatives are fielding hooligans at Town Hall style meetings, especially the ones that are related to health care reforms. Protesters are being dispatched to meetings where health care, or Obamacare as it's called, is being discussed in order to stifle discussion. A recent episode of the Rachel Maddow show got a memo from Think Progress intercepted from conservative think tank, Right Principles in which they outline how to do it. This tactic has been used before, notably during recounts in the 2000 election. No one likes hooligans, and the rest of us end up needing fast cash to undo their damage.read more click http://personalmoney...
You can get paid for this?
August 8, 2009 - 08:58 ET by ParagrouperWow!
and all this time I was just trying to get my government to listen to me on MY Dime.
Do you have a real link, where I can apply? I need the coin.
Self-Employed Hooligan
"Beware the fury of the patient man." - John Dryden
~Hahahaha
August 8, 2009 - 15:24 ET by choselife3xThis is hilarious! You're coming to a conservative site to schill for your loansharking operation?!?!
According to “The Rachel Maddow Show,”
a leaked memo from a group called Right Principles was intercepted by
the Web site Think Progress. This memo indicates that these town hall
protests against Democratic senators speaking in support of public
option health insurance are being orchestrated, even scripted.
If you need to purchase your own security detail, short term loans and
payday loans can help. Apply here to protect yourself from hooligans!
What a pathetic joke. (Nice picture of your boyfriend, by the way.)
Edited to add:
This just keeps getting better...
The DNC ad points to a memo written by an activist named Bob MacGuffie
as proof that Republican political ops are pulling the strings. It
turns out that MacGuffie, a decent-seeming fellow, is a rank amateur
whose Right Principles PAC has collected a mere $5,017 and disbursed
the staggering sum of $1,777, and has 23 members on Facebook and five
followers on Twitter, according to The Weekly Standard's Mary Katharine
Ham.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha....
America is waking up, sing louder.
http://www.youtube.c...
lol
August 8, 2009 - 15:27 ET by katainkentI think I handled more money when I was the cookie lady for my daughters girl scout troop.
___________________________________________
"The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" - HR 3200 (Health Care Bill) Pg. 203. Ln 14 & 15
"Don't miss the next EPISODE of the Rachel Maddow Show"
August 8, 2009 - 15:46 ET by SickofLibsEpisode? Thanks for pointing out that Maddow's show is in fact a sitcom.
Hit the road, troll.
Attention mastheads... This
August 8, 2009 - 15:54 ET by contraryAttention mastheads... This appears to be a troll-for-profit bot. Not a very good one at that. These belong in the waste bin.
"No I have the facts"
--The resident Joe Friday
Hey, Alicia_C, you brainless bimbette troll,
August 8, 2009 - 16:19 ET by R D HelmWho is going to protect us from one of Obama's high school dropout union goobers next time we go to a townhall meeting?
-Dave
If it's CommieCare you want, then move to Cuba.
Funny, I don't recall ever
August 8, 2009 - 08:48 ET by Tom PaineFunny, I don't recall ever hearing any stories about how all of the protests against the Iraq war posed a threat to the life of George W Bush. Heck, they even promoted a fake assination movie about him. Government run media has become truly pathetic
The only violence I have seen was by thuggish union goons
August 8, 2009 - 16:10 ET by R D HelmShuster is either a liar or an idiot.
I'll settle for both.
-Dave
If it's CommieCare you want, then move to Cuba.
out of touch
August 9, 2009 - 02:08 ET by sudmufAre liberals really that out of touch with reality? They seem to have no idea whats comming. This country is on the verge of civil war.
Obama's Safety
August 9, 2009 - 15:23 ET by Seamus236Obama has nothing to fear what with Joe Biden next in line!