On Friday, MSNBC anchor Tamron Hall exclaimed: "Harsh political discourse against [President Obama] really amped up and people started to push the boundaries of what might be considered decency. From talk radio to those tea parties that we saw with some pretty offensive signs folks were holding, even in the presence of children. The anger has certainly intensified."
As evidence of the supposed lack of "decency" co-anchor David Shuster declared: "And so listen to Glenn Beck make his case against health care reform just yesterday on his radio show, watch." The audio clip that followed featured Beck yelling at a hostile caller during his Wednesday show.
Based on that one example, Shuster wondered: "So are the political attacks, is the language, is the discourse, going too far? And does it have real consequences?" He then teased another segment on the topic in the next hour, but it was preempted by live coverage of President Obama speaking on health care reform.
Before moving on to the next story, Hall remarked: "Imagine if we talked to our viewers like that?" Hall does not need to imagine, she can simply turn to MSNBC’s own Keith Olbermann. The left-wing bomb thrower routinely screams insults and accusations at conservatives during Countdown every night.
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
3:48PM SEGMENT:
DAVID SHUSTER: We've been talking about the language, Tamron, between the President and Congress, but there's also this whole sort of area of language besides the President and Congress, and that’s sort of out there on the blogosphere and talk radio. And remember the old adage about being able to disagree without being disagreeable?
TAMRON HALL: Yeah, I remember it, but I don't think a lot of people who listen to, maybe, certain radio stations believe that. Well, six months after President Obama took office, a lot of sociologists and analysts believe that harsh political discourse against him really amped up and people started to push the boundaries of what might be considered decency. From talk radio to those tea parties that we saw with some pretty offensive signs folks were holding, even in the presence of children. The anger has certainly intensified.
SHUSTER: And so listen to Glenn Beck make his case against health care reform just yesterday on his radio show, watch.
KATHY: -industrial country in this world-
GLENN BECK: In this world-
KATHY: -that doesn't have health care. What the hell is wrong with you?
GLENN BECK: And we are the only country in the world where leaders come from every other country to get health care when they can't get the right kind of health care in their own country!
KATHY: I'm asking you a logical question and you are-
BECK: I'm giving you a logical answer.
KATHY: You don't have logic! Every time you people bring up costs, you don't care about the trillions of dollars to bail out the banks and all the credit card companies.
BECK: Kathy, get off my phone! Get off my phone, you little pinhead!
SHUSTER: Wow. So are the political attacks, is the language, is the discourse, going too far? And does it have real consequences? We will take up that issue coming up in our next hour right here on MSNBC.
HALL: Imagine if we talked to our viewers like that? Get off my- [laughs].
SHUSTER: Wow.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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"Imagine if we talked to pur viewers like that"
July 17, 2009 - 17:43 ET by jdlybrandYou mean all three of your viewers, Tamron?
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Viewers.
July 17, 2009 - 18:11 ET by blazermaniacI thought she had only two viewers! Oh well!
wait..what TEA party did they go to?
July 17, 2009 - 17:54 ET by UndercoverConservativeI took almost an hour of video thruout the entire San Jose event. Didn't see anything *half* as offensive as anything from a San Francisco "peace" protest of the last 8 years..no bloody "bodies", no "F**K Obama" placards..no one in @ssless chaps spanking the president in effigy, no Code-Anything people offering tonsil-hockey to anyone not going into a recruiter's office...
Did see a Hispanic dude on a bike threaten violence to a white guy also on a bike.."see you on the trail, hermano!" as he rode off after he realized I got the whole exchange on video though. Maybe that's what they meant by "going too far"...and it's the other side that's been doing it for years.
WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)
Ditto for the Burgh
July 17, 2009 - 20:50 ET by ghblogIt was the same at the Pittsburgh Tea Party. It was my first and I enjoyed it. The signs were cool, but the best display was a car full of conservative bumper stickers.
If you want to see the car, scroll down on this link:
http://www.framingthedialogue.com/archives/pittsburgh-tea-party/
The car is great
July 17, 2009 - 22:23 ET by general companyHope they get them stickers for free $$? We were in Baton Rouge, pretty good turnout dispite the heat, and I mean it was hot. We have a lot of good folks here getting involved.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Orwellian Newspeak
July 17, 2009 - 20:58 ET by needleThis is a perfect example of “newspeak,” and good evidence that we are living just as George Orwell predicted in 1984. According to Liberals who think like Tamron Hall and David Shuster you can say anything you want, no matter how despicable it would be by conventional standards, about someone targeted for liberal hatred, such as Bush, Chaney, etc., and whatever you say is acceptable (at least as far as people who are plagued with BSD are concerned). But they have a completely different standard of what is acceptable for protected people and concepts, such as Obama and any person or thing associated with him.
Liberals elitists by their determined efforts to silence and marginalize the moral majority for the past half century so as to monopolize the conversation as to what is, and what isn’t, acceptable, and what should, and what shouldn’t, be part of our culture are responsible for the depths to which our society have sunk; but what do they care? I have zero sympathy with them, and apparently Glenn Beck is getting a bit fed up also.
- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.
Who is this woman?
July 17, 2009 - 18:01 ET by RukusTamron dear, would you like some cheese with that whine?
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
The reason the political
July 17, 2009 - 18:05 ET by Radical1979The reason the political discourse against Obama ramped up six months into his presidency is because people saw what he was doing and didn't like it! So get off my First Amendment rights. Didn't they ever hear Joy Behar speak? Talk about nasty.
Regarding Beck refering to the caller as a pinhead, he was against all the bailouts. If the caller knew anything about him before calling him she wouldn't have made such a stupid statement.
So was it also beyond the bounds of decency
July 17, 2009 - 18:06 ET by lsudolemitewhen protesters were equating Bush with Hitler (and still do), calling him a mass murderer and then having the audacity to proclaim that such "decent" acts are patriotic? How about when lib groups storm the stage at university events hosting conservative speakers and denying their right to free speech? Or the destruction of conservative newspapers on those same campuses with no reprisal from university officials? How about the antics of Cindy Sheehan and her Code Pink collaborators, such as trying to place Karl Rove under citizen's arrest for war crimes? Or any one of millions of HuffPo or Kos posts over the last few years?
These MSMers are beneath contempt.
I for one welcome our new overlords......
July 17, 2009 - 18:13 ET by superconThis guy makes Kent Brockman look like Walter Cronkite.
Any video he could get from any tea party would be overwhelmed ten to one in nastiness by videos of left-wing demonstrations. I have seen some absolutelyhorrible ones.
Watch the tolerant left.
http://www.youtube.c...
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
Shut up Mr. Shuster. Just. Shut. Up.
July 17, 2009 - 18:53 ET by motherbeltYou have no room to talk about "going too far."
Here's the Classy and Elegant David Shuster
Of course, I guess schlumping down into the gutter is fine when you do it on national TV instead of in the streets.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
That's why his ratings suck so bad.
July 17, 2009 - 20:58 ET by superconBecause he is a bleepin' loser.
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
NBC 2nd quarter profits down 41%
July 18, 2009 - 06:17 ET by Red JeepThats better than the first quarter when profits were down 43%.
http://mediamemo.all...
Well
July 17, 2009 - 18:22 ET by 10ksnookerAt least Palin didn't say she was a wise white woman.
But now we know what wise Latina means -- Intellectually unqualified for the Supreme Court.
Another oldie but goodie
July 17, 2009 - 18:22 ET by superconhttp://www.youtube.c...
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
NY Times headline for tomorrow
July 17, 2009 - 18:31 ET by DFLowerMSNBC reports 33% increase in viewers
imagine if they talked to their viewers like that?
July 17, 2009 - 18:33 ET by katainkentwho needs to imagine? Who can forget the "dumba**" remarks and the tea bag double entendres?
or do we not count as viewers if we don't agree with their views.
By the by... here is the complete transcript of "Kathy the Idiot Caller" If the above is a direct transcript of the MSNBC broadcast then MSNBC hacked Glen's broadcast to bits.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Does this stupid bastard
July 17, 2009 - 18:33 ET by ricklailDoes this stupid bastard not watch his own network? Look at Shultz, Obermann, Maddox just for example. I mean their language and discourse is terrible. It is like the possum calling the rat a long tailed *&%$*(.
Semper suprene nitens
North Carolina now has the worst government money can buy.
Judas Priest!
July 17, 2009 - 18:48 ET by BondPlainBondA total and inescapable liberal retreat from reality is what is demonstrated by the exchange between these two hobbled minds.
Have they ever heard what they themselves have said which most certainly "push the boundaries of decency"?
Shuster is, without a doubt, on a par equal to the smarminess and hate-filled diatribes of the vitriolic Olbermann. Moreso every day. Hall is just... a liberal parrot.
They're spiraling out of control and deep into the proverbial crapper. Just like their so-called "news" organization, MSNBC, THE place for propaganda.
Bond, see my comment above
July 17, 2009 - 18:55 ET by motherbeltBond, see my comment above for a link to Shuster at his finest.
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
motherbelt
July 17, 2009 - 19:07 ET by BondPlainBondA most disgusting and classless display by an individual the left holds up as a representative qualified to interact with political figures via interviews and through whom, significant commentary is relayed to the public.
Shuster is nothing more than a verbal bully bolstered by the hobbled minds that allow him to retain his employment.
Judas Priest. How do these hobbled minds gain employment, have drivers licenses, checkbooks, and are allowed to breed?
It's GOTTA be something the liberals eat or swill, particular to their ilk that encourages these disgusting and vile displays on public airwaves.
He didn't "report" the news of TEA Parties, he turned it into a porn event, which is something NBC enjoys promoting and evidently, liberals enjoy viewing. Brings things down to their classless level.
Thanks for the reminder, motherbelt, of how completely devoid of ethics the "people" at NBC, and its sister organizations, really are.
I'm really on a tear today. I've HAD IT with this liberal/progressive/socialist/marxist/communist manifesto crap.
The entire Obama agenda, from stem to stern, is so OBVIOUSLY a bunch a baloney and NO ONE seems to have the wherewithal to take these mothertruckers out to the woodshed for a very public and lengthy and detailed ridiculing.
Next thing you know
July 17, 2009 - 19:29 ET by lsudolemiteShuster will be calling us "doo-doo-heads" and "stupid faces" on national TV. Then we put on a 9-year-old to debate him so that he'll be among intellectual peers.
How dare you!
July 17, 2009 - 19:45 ET by RukusThat's a slam to 9 year olds everywhere! Take it back! 7 year olds, maybe, but 9 year olds? 9 year olds would own Shyster and you know it! : )
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
You are correct sir, a million pardons
July 17, 2009 - 22:17 ET by lsudolemiteand I am forced to print a retraction. However, in true MSM fashion, I will bury this at the bottom of the comments page so no one will read it. :)
The real discourse will
July 17, 2009 - 18:57 ET by ConservativeRexThe real discourse will start when we hunt down folks like these two knuckleheads and force them to explain themselves.
That my 'friends' is when they're shown how the cow ate the cabbage.
I guess
July 17, 2009 - 19:01 ET by jls19401that they never listen to Ed Schultz, and his lambasting of callers. Or Rachel Maddow and her smug act!
Tea Parties Terrify Libs
July 17, 2009 - 19:04 ET by slickwillie2001The Tea Party movement terrifies the liberals because it is a real grassroots organized protest that liberals have not had since their glorious days of the anti-Vietnam War movement. Since then all their protests have been run by criminal organizations like ACORN with paid protesters at sub-minimum hourly wages.
Imagine if we talked to
July 17, 2009 - 19:46 ET by RR GOPImagine if we talked to our viewers like that? Get off my- [laughs].
Apparently there aren't too many of those, so I' wouldn't worry about offending them. Now, maybe having this cushy job in a year or so, that's a different matter.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
McCaskill Panic
July 17, 2009 - 20:13 ET by slickwillie2001Looks like Senator Claire 'ACORN' McCaskill only watches MSNBC:
McCaskill's Office Locks Doors, Pulls Blinds, Calls Cops and Forces Obamacare Protesters Off Public Property: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com
MSNBC agitprop presenters
July 17, 2009 - 20:41 ET by celatorMSNBC agitprop presenters accusing other networks of pushing the boundaries of decency???
Now that's high comedy at its best.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Shuster's classless reporting
July 17, 2009 - 21:16 ET by motherbeltHere is a list of the classless comments that Shuster made (reporting on TEA parties), which he apparently doesn't think "push the bounds of decency"
In just the first 30 seconds:
Republicans going nuts over it
They whipped out the festivities
Toothless, but full-throated tongue-lashing..
they want to lick government spending
they didn't complain when they were under Bush and Reagan.
He then went on to say that "prostitute-patron" David Vitter was tight-lipped about them but that Hannity and Beck were hoping to get an up-close and personal taste of the teabagging parties.
He ended with an observation that if they wanted to have simultaneous tea-bagging parties all over the country, they were going to need a Dick Armey.
And we should all let David Shuster lecture us on decency?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
MB...just reading the list
July 17, 2009 - 22:01 ET by celatorMB...just reading the list made my face turn red. He must live in a dumpster.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Hall remarked: "Imagine if
July 17, 2009 - 20:55 ET by GregEHall remarked: "Imagine if we talked to our viewers like that?"
I agree. If they talked to their viewers like that, they'd have very low viewersh............uhhh........oh......wait a minute.
$10 trillion debt and
July 17, 2009 - 21:01 ET by GregE$10 trillion debt and wanting to keep going
$1.8 trillion deficit
Government ownership of GM and Chrysler.
Pandering to unions and disregarding contractual agreements by overriding Chrysler investor contracts
$200 billion mortgage bailout on the backs of other mortgage and non-mortgage owners
Massive power grab in Crap n Tax and Healthcrap bills.
Not reading the bills before voting yes and affecting our lives via new tyrannical laws.
Fed printing at LEAST $2 trillion.....
Sure, let's talk about deceny. No one.....I mean NO ONE, holds a candle to Obama and his Executive Branch fingerling of Congressional Democrats. It's an argument those fools couldn't even score in, much less win.
well look...
July 17, 2009 - 21:54 ET by American.PatriotI got some "friends" see and their democraps.
I used to think that they were reasonably intelligent people.
Recently I had to change my conservative opinion and told one schmuck that he was really fu%&ing stupid.
Didn't phase him....
Libs feel ANY criticism of Bam is indecent...
July 17, 2009 - 22:00 ET by wnaegeleSigh!
MSNBC
July 17, 2009 - 22:03 ET by Free StinkerFrom talk radio to those tea parties that we saw with some pretty offensive signs folks were holding
Meanwhile, MSLSD does not seem to think these are offensive?
And GE wonders why MSDNCs' ratings are so low?
Alternative Universe
July 17, 2009 - 22:20 ET by 4libertyThese dopes are living in some sort of psychedelic warped cocoon where they see everything in their own political sphere as perfect utopia, and everything else is demonic evil. They probably think Olberdork is Jim Jones passing out the KoolAid.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." ~ Ronald Reagan
Obama is Jim Jones
July 18, 2009 - 00:16 ET by IamTinmanAnd willingly or unwillingly we are the kool aid drinkers. Shuster, Hall and the rest of the lowlifes at MSNBC are the ones going through the crowd passing out the cups and saying drink up, you'll feel better.
MSNBC
July 17, 2009 - 22:26 ET by brain trustMSNBC is pushing the boundaries of relevancy!
Before we have a government that can supply us with everything we will have a government that can provide us with nothing.
Anything that questions
July 17, 2009 - 22:52 ET by mostlymoderateAnything that questions socialism, communism, liberalism, reverse-discrimination, Obama, welfare, lewd public displays of homosexuality, killing fetuses or illegal immigration pushes the boundaries of decency in the eyes of liberals.
Whiter shade of pale ...
July 17, 2009 - 23:34 ET by metaphorsbwithuBoundaries? BOUNDARIES?
After the previous 8 years they have the gall to refer to boundaries? Where did the boundaries go, anyway?
Have you ever heard the expression, "Beyond the pale"?
How do these people keep a straight face?
metaphorsbwithu
Wow Man, Like Wow
July 18, 2009 - 01:43 ET by reasonsjesterHere is the rest of the footage:
HALL: I've really never seen this kind of venom in my life. It is kind of shocking.
SHUSTER: Very shocking.
HALL: I mean would you want your son or daughter listening to people yell and scream and question our president?
SHUSTER: Definitely not.
HALL: I mean, do we really want to go back to the days of the Bush administration...
SHUSTER: Tamron, nix...
HALL: When all we heard from Rush Limbaugh and hate-mongers like Mark Levin were relentless attacks on Democrats...
HALL: (Hand waving) Tamron, let's not revisit the past...
HALL: ...day in and day out comparing Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to Adolph Hitler and Leni Riefenstahl...
SHUSTER: We get your point Tamron...
HALL: Just spiteful, acid-filled rants on a daily basis directed at duly elected leaders of our democracy?
SHUSTER: I think that is quite enough...
HALL: David, I was trying to make a point.
SHUSTER: And a good point it is. Here to comment on the rise of crazy extremists fed up with paying trillions of dollars in taxes to the government only to be blown on so-called "wasteful" projects, (heh - ludicrous), is our own Keith Olbermann.
KEITH: Good evening, Tamron and David.
SHUSTER: So tell us Keith what you think about these crazy right-wingers...
KEITH: These insane right-winged extremists are the worst examples of Americans imaginable. They are the expositors of filth and the purveyors of mayhem. Their self-righteous crusade against Barack Obama is nothing but a racist slur-fest designed to discredit the president and make sure that no black man, I mean, African-American, can ever make it off the plantation and into the trappings of power ever again...
SHUSTER: So you would agree that they are vile, despicable excuses for human beings?
KEITH: Absolutely.
SHUSTER; Back to you Tamron.
HALL: And in other news, there was hope for our nation once again when Dick Cheney suffered another massive heart attack. Unfortunately, the former vice president is expected to live...
(This is not an actual transcript. It is satire.)
www.pointvcounterpoi...
More Tea (Parties) Please!
July 18, 2009 - 03:07 ET by AgentAmericanSomewhere, a wooded area is missing an over-sized squirrel that managed to get a job at a low-rated cable news channel...
I'm waiting for the Tea Parties to become Bunker Hills and Lexingtons! Eventually they will become Yorktowns!
Just one question...when?
2010: A GOP Hill
Tune into MSNBC Every night
July 18, 2009 - 06:32 ET by Jack BauerTune into MSNBC where a PEE PARTY breaks out every night...
Featuring the biggest collection of snide, nasty, crazy, play-leftist a-holes it'll ever be your misfortune to stumble upon.
Led, of course by Fox News REJECT Shuster -- and a guy who is so loony, it has to be an act.
O my, "pinhead" cover your
July 18, 2009 - 07:03 ET by kangarooO my, "pinhead" cover your ears kids
I just emailed my senators asking for Obama's impeachment.
July 18, 2009 - 08:16 ET by WorriedI guess I am now an official "hateful, right wing extremist."
I have had it with Obama's arrogance, threatening words, his acting like a dictator instead of a POTUS.
I'll probably get a knock on the door someday but I will go down fighting this fraud in the White House.
WHAT ?
July 18, 2009 - 09:55 ET by jacktheripperyou don't like "Make no mistake"..."Let me make this clear"...."Fired up and ready to go"..."betting against healthcare...you are sadly mistaken" ???? This guy is an oracle of bullsh#t er... truth
"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"
MSNBC
July 18, 2009 - 08:17 ET by okiehawk44MSNBC is dying a slow agonizing death and those like shuster and hall have joined "ed" in trying to raise their unbelievably dismal ratings by goading successful people like Rush and Beck. Pitiful but not unusual. Take a look at MSNBC's ratings as opposed to other cable networks and keith o. and rachel are not doing very well either nor is morning joe. So on they rant about others and hope someone will notice them. We don't care about you. Get that?
July 18, 2009 - 11:24 ET by jessieHI went to 2 different TEA parties on the 4th. I saw no signs that, in any way, that had bad language. They don't know it, yet, but come 9/12, they are going to see more than just signs. What about going to a TEA party & seeing for themselves. Why didn't they show these offensive signs on the boob-tube? Because they can't. Now, if the people have to spend their hard earned money to go to D.C., just to be heard by someone other than a moronic reporter, they will not be in a favorable mood.
Re signs
July 18, 2009 - 12:15 ET by slickwillie2001The lefties at the old media looked long and hard for any signs they could publicize as offensive, and had they found any it would have led the news and made the front page of al New York Times.
"Too Much Political Hate?"
July 18, 2009 - 13:00 ET by winston smithI had to laugh at that on-screen caption. Ironically, it's a perfect description of MS-DNC. Do these leftist flunkies think we have short memories or what? This is the station that wrote and published and the book on 'political hate' taking special care and consideration to victimize and disrepect Sarah Palin and her family like no other politician in American politics has ever been victimized. And yet here they are, six months later, with their sanctimious sob story about political decency with their pretend serious facial expressions. And here I sit belly-laughing at their blatant hypocrisy and insenserity. They have no shame.
Of coarse, they presented Glenn out of context!!!
July 18, 2009 - 22:03 ET by centurion2674I heard the ENTIRE show the day they pulled this clip from. I noticed MSDNC didn't mention he was yelling at the caller because she was accusing him of not caring about the trillions being spent in government! She obviously never listened to him. Also, her only argument for Universal Health Care was what she got from Michael Moore's "Sicko!" She was attacking Glenn's point of view when she didn't know what his point of view was! She was a total pinhead! These freaks at MSDNC have NOTHING to justify their whacked views, without omitting, or flat out lying!
The reason I like talk radio and tea party...
July 19, 2009 - 02:29 ET by jawebster1protesters is because people I can't stand don't like talk radio and tea party protesters. The list includes democrats and the main stream media, also including yellow stream MSNBC. Jim Webster
Sure
July 19, 2009 - 08:07 ET by cwnelson79Call me crazy, but what I find offensive, is for a marxist to come in and try and ruin the country. Or a corrupt media that is as worthless as 2 belly buttons. Smug little elitists, and their smug little comments, about average Americans. The media is offensive, Obama is offensive. Americans fed up with the government are not offensive.
Ah, yes...
July 20, 2009 - 15:08 ET by TheDeuceThe 'tolerent left'...and a media that lies so brazenly as they proclaim the lie to be the truth...makes me sick!