Hispanic, especially Mexican immigrants are a special category that are treated differently by politicians. They can't be compared to Chinese, Indian, or European immigrants. This is because they are making a claim of ownership of part of our country, and no politician will dare call them on it. Some of them even want to ethnically cleanse those parts of our country of Anglos. If Mexicans think that California belongs to them, why should they learn our language?

Any proposed illegal alien amnesty will benefit Mexicans disproportionately and correspondingly. In the democratic party there is a de facto acknowledgement of Mexicans' claim to part of our country. Like good useful idiots, they only hope that they will be accepted as the ruling class in exchange for their support.

Other classes of immigrants tend to work harder to join the melting pot because they don't have that bogus claim. They want to join America, not take it back.

 You are just like all the other bigots who cried the same arguments when all the other groups inundated the United States with mass immigration.   This basically destroys your post.  Once you have to accuse me of bigotry, you lose.  Especially when you can't back it up. 

Either you back this or you owe me an apology. 

The pathetic part is you don't even know what my hometown is.  If you DO somehow know, then you have only proved yourself to be a bigger idiot than I suspected.  If you do not, you are in for the shock of a lifetime. 

My logic... a father wanting to feed his children breaks a law and accepts employment from people eager to employ him.  Your logic - All I need to do is say "I NEED TO FEED MY CHILDREN!!!"  and that makes me completely exempt from the law. 

Your logic... a father wanting to feed his children rises up against the drug lords and corrupt politians to take his country back and gets himself killed rather quickly  So, we should have completely given up on the first volley of British bullets at Lexington and Concord?  And what of the Mexican Revolution of just under 100 years ago? 

It is beyond stupid that you accuse me of guilt when I address the human condition.  But you want to apply immigration law to everyone else but certain people from certain countries.  I'd like to see the law applied to all.  Ever noticed that statue of Lady Justice with the blindfold?  I have done these people no harm and feel no guilt about their condition.  I do, however, recognize that reasonable people will do reasonable things to achieve their goals, regardless of the legalities.  So, tell me, what's the point of immigration laws?  Or visas? Or me holding a passport?   As Americans, we want cheap labor... as immigrants, they supply cheap labor.  We get our house built at a discount... they feed their children.  Still sticking to Greg Stillson tactics.  Seems like an awfully logical arrangement to me.  Even MORE logical is this:

They want in the country?  OK.  They do it the legal way.  they want to temporarily stay here?  OK, they get work permits.

LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. 

Oh, and one benefit of that - which you clearly don't care about as you are immersed in your guilt - is that we can look after immigrants and temporary/migrant workers with labor laws, and they wouldn't have to fear getting deported. 

 Ellis Island and today's immigrants are worlds apart.  This is rich.  You claim to understand the human condition yet you come up with this?  No, today's immigrants - the ones who do it right (you seem to have this severe problem with following or enforcing the law) - are to me indistinguishable from those at Ellis Island.  Today's legal immigrants are here for a better opportunity than they had at home.  And again, as a child of an immigrant, I thoroughly approve.  As long as they follow the law in doing so. 

I'm funny that way.  If your first act upon entering the United States is to break the law just by entering the nation illegally, this doesn't bode well. 

 Just as a note to other commentors... learning a second language as an adult is a very difficult task.  Children pick up languages as easily as dirty clothes.  Don't judge immigrants on their ability to complete a task most adults can't do.  Judge them on what they encourage their children to do.  Yet another whine.  My grandmother picked up English just fine.  I have learned two languages I can get by in as an adult.  I am not special or smarter than anyone else.  What's the problem?  If I can do it, why can no one else?

If you feel strongly about people learning English... then volunteer to help them learn English.  It is easy to critisize when you aren't in the same shoes.   I have helped more people to learn English than you can imagine.  You can't travel in Asia without doing so.  I have been in those shoes, so I will feel quite free to criticize.  And count yourself lucky you didn't say this in front of my mother.  Do not EVER get her started on language issues.  (Considering what she has gone through, I can see why.)

Now... believe it or not... I am not for amnesty.  I don't believe that people who have entered this country illegally should become citizens without going through the right channels.  I just don't believe it is proper to punish people for pursuing opportunities presented to them.  And yes... we have presented the opportunities to them.  You are not for amnesty, but you don't think we should enforce immigration laws on certain groups of people because "they want to feed their children".  Contradictions collapse.  By the way, who DOESN'T want to feed their children, and how many BILLIONS of people do so every day through perfectly legal means???

I know you don't want to believe this, but Hispanics as a whole are BIG on family and are BIG on work ethic.  They will make a positive addition to our melting pot.  Given the opportunity, they or their children will learn English.  Given the opportunity, they will contribute to the tax base.  Given the opportunity, they will contibute to our culture.  Given the opportunity, they will contribute to our knowledge.  Just like the Italians, the Polish, the Catholics, the Irish and all the other immigrant groups who have come here seeking a better life, they will contribute.  You sure like to condescend, don't you?  Are you as dumb as to believe that I don't innately understand this, as from the day I went to day care, I have been surrounded by people of multiple ethnicities, especially the Hispanic population? 

If my mother and grandmother had to follow the law to immigrate here - if countless people from all over the world have to do this in order to get here - well, why not EVERYONE?  It's not THAT hard a concept to grasp.  And you shut down illegal immigration - regardless of source - to create more spaces in line, to allow for even MORE legal immigration for all who want to come here.  You got that, tumbler?

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)