CBS’s Schieffer: Should Republicans ‘Shift’ Away From Social Issues?

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Bob Schieffer and Haley Barbour, CBS In an interview with Republican Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour on Sunday, CBS’s Bob Schieffer wondered: "Do you think that Republicans now should sort of shift the emphasis, though, from stressing social and family values and shift to more – to economic issues and be a party of economic conservatives rather than putting so much emphasis on these social issues?"

Schieffer began the Face the Nation interview by asking Barbour about the sex scandal involving South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford: "How much damage has it done to a Republican Party that is already on the ropes?...Your chances in 2012? This is the party that’s called itself the party of family values and so on and so forth. You’re going through a series of scandals now. This is not the first. Just like in the past, Democrats – we have seen Democrats involved in things like this. What does this do to the image of the party and how you try to project yourself and present yourself as a party, Governor?"

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In addition to wondering about the fate of the party nationally, Schieffer also asked about Sanford’s political future: "Should he also resign as the governor of South Carolina?...This seems to go beyond just the fact that, you know, he became involved in this relationship. He was basically missing in action for five days... Isn’t this more than just a sex scandal here? I mean, this is dereliction of duty, isn’t it?"

It’s interesting that Schieffer never leveled such a charge against Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky scandal. While interviewing Republican Senator Orrin Hatch on the September 13, 1998 Face the Nation, Schieffer excused the President’s actions as sleazy, but not worthy of impeachment or resignation:

Senator, a Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Zoe Lofgren, told CBS News Friday night the President should be impeached for threatening the Constitution. She says you can't impeach a President because he's a bum, or you ought not to. Hasn't this come down to just about that? I mean, once you get through the Starr report - and I, like you, sat down yesterday and read it from start to finish, all 400-plus pages - once you get past all the sex and the nasty business, there's not much there besides a President who's trying to, and he did lie, to get around a marital infidelity. 

Here is a transcript of the exchange:

10:30AM TEASE:

BOB SCHIEFFER: Then we’ll turn to the scandal in South Carolina involving Governor Mark Sanford. How much damage has it done to a Republican Party that is already on the ropes? We’ll ask the new head of the Republican Governors Association, Haley Barbour of Mississippi, who is already being talked about now as one of the possibilities for the Republican presidential nomination next time.

10:31AM SEGMENT:

BOB SCHIEFFER: And we are beginning this morning with those scandals back home – the scandal that rocked the Republican Party when governor – the governor of South Carolina suddenly showed up after being missing for five days, and disclosed that he was involved with a woman from Argentina. He said he was stepping down as chairman of the Republican Conference of Governors. He was succeeded by Governor Haley Barbour of Mississippi. Governor Barbour is with us this morning from Jackson, Mississippi. Welcome to you, Governor. You were slated to take over this post. You’re stepping in a little early because Mark – Mark Sanford has resigned as head of the Republican Governors Conference. Thank you for coming. Should he also resign as the governor of South Carolina?

HALEY BARBOUR: Well, I don’t think so, but that’s up to the people of South Carolina. But no, I don’t think so.

SCHIEFFER: This seems to go beyond just the fact that, you know, he became involved in this relationship. He was basically missing in action for five days. He’s the governor of Mississippi, he wasn’t there – of South Carolina. He was not there. People didn’t know where he was. I can remember one time several years ago, Governor Barbour, when you were supposed to be on Face the Nation and you canceled at the last minute, you said, ‘I’m very sorry, there’s a hurricane coming and I’ve got – I’ve got to make sure we’re all set and prepared to do that.’ Isn’t this more than just a sex scandal here? I mean, this is dereliction of duty, isn’t it?

BARBOUR: You know, Bob, I don’t know all the details. But I’ve been in politics a long time. I’ve made it my policy, I just don’t talk about people’s personal problems. I don’t – I don’t think it’s appropriate, I don’t think it’s polite, and I don’t think it – it achieves any purpose. The people of South Carolina will decide that. For us at the Republican Governors Association, we’re just going to keep focused on what we were doing to start with. And I don’t believe what happens in South Carolina will change one vote in the governor’s race in New Jersey. And of course that’s what we’re focused on now, is the New Jersey and the Virginia governors races this November.

SCHIEFFER: But what about the Republican Party in general? Your chances in 2012? This is the party that’s called itself the party of family values and so on and so forth. You’re going through a series of scandals now. This is not the first. Just like in the past, Democrats – we have seen Democrats involved in things like this. What does this do to the image of the party and how you try to project yourself and present yourself as a party, Governor?

HALEY BARBOUR: Well, these issues have been bipartisan issues, as you note, Bob. But for us as Republicans, I think the biggest issue about this or about spending or about other policy issues is Republicans need to do what they say they’re going to do. I mean, that’s the issue. Are you going to do what you say you’re going to do? And I think that’s what feeds this – feeds this. But the good thing for us as governors is we have 22 Republican governors. And on public policy, they have done what they said they were going to do. They’ve – they’ve worked very hard to control spending. You know, governors, Democrats and Republicans alike, we have to balance our budgets. It’s not easy. And you’re going to have to make tough decisions. People expect you to do that, and for a conservative Republican like me, people expect you to try to control spending. In other states where you have got Dem – liberal Democrat governors, maybe they expect tax increases, but people need you to do what you said you’re going to do. And that’s the big thing, regardless of what the issue is.

SCHIEFFER: Do you think that Republicans now should sort of shift the emphasis, though, from stressing social and family values and shift to more – to economic issues and be a party of economic conservatives rather than putting so much emphasis on these social issues?

HALEY BARBOUR: Well look, the American people right now are very concerned about our country’s future. And they’re very concerned about this incredible burst of spending – a surge of spending unlike anything in American history, where every month there’s a new way to spend a trillion dollars. They’re very concerned about taxes. Friday the House of Representatives, by a very small handful of votes, passed the President’s energy policy, which is a gigantic hidden energy tax, plus a whole lot of open energy taxes. People are concerned about when they get trillions of dollars of taxes added onto them. And then they’re worried about the debt that is being generated by this and what it’s going to do to our children. So what should Republicans be talking about? They need to be talking about the issues that are on people’s minds. There are people concerned about social issues. There are people concerned about the Obama administration’s policies, about the Second Amendment and the ownership of guns. But what Republicans and anybody else ought to be talking about are the issues that affect people’s lives.

And right now I think the American people’s greatest concern is about our economy and the policies of this administration which most people don’t think are going in the right direction because they’re very concerned about this incredible spending. After all, Bob, a lot of people realize excess money supply, spending, these were some of the things that got us into the trouble that we’re in – all of this sub-prime mortgage business about lending people money who didn’t have the ability to pay it back. All of this sounds very familiar to the American people and what the Obama administration is doing now.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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I sense that the media have

I sense that all the media have now received their plan for the new line of attack against Republicans for this week from the Obama White House. How many posts have we had about this same line from how many MSM figures - Matthews, Carlos What's His Name, and now - Schieffer.

The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.

Chris

There has been a organized effort against Conservatives for some time and you are correct about the White House sending out instruction and talking points.

This is what the Left did to have the selection of our candidate (McCain) in their hands.  It's them trying to frame the arguments and issues.  They over-do it with Palin and stupidly 'show their hand', as it were.  They did it when they made the Tea Parties into 'just' about taxes, which attempted to narrow our total bag of arguments against Hussein and the Leftist takeover of our country and culture.

Screw them and the Perez they rode in on.  As 'Pat Garrett' says to the newspaper publisher / biographer in ''Young Guns II'' - ''Encumbered by idjits, we pressed on''.

Haley handled Boby well...I

Haley handled Bob well...I watched this yesterday...

the left have their Steffie/Rahm/Soros talking points down, they have been parroting the same danged thing now all over the place for quite a bit now...

It would them well to mind their own party...instead of worrying about trying to force us to be like them...

NOT GOING to HAPPEN...as much as yoy wish it would Bob, along with the rest of your ilk.

Besides that....I smell fear when this happens...and they know 2010 isn't that far off.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Should CBS News

Try unbiased news out just for laughs?

Issues

How often does the news media hide behind social issues to avoid political and economic? 

JDW

DAILY WAVE

When people fear their government there is tyranny.

When government fears the people there is liberty.

Its never ending...blah

Its never ending...blah blah blah "middle ground" blah blah blah "reach out to the left" blah blah blah The only way for the Republicans to gain ground and represent the people is to become Democrats.

These buffoons just do not realize that the Republicans are a different party, with opposing viewpoints, Who do represent (or are supposed to) those of us with morals, who beleive in limited government and less taxes. These scandels that are occuring are splashed on the front page because they are Republicans and generally they resign. By contrast the scandels do not produce the same result from the other side of the aisle. Regardless of where the other party stands on "Family values" and such, the blatent disregard for laws, marriage and basic human standards which this country as a whole should stand for is appalling.

And that there is one reason the Republican party should not (and will not) stop representing those of us who still have a moral compass and desire to see this country remain the bastion of freedom and economic superpower it is ( or was).

If they do? Then I firmly beleive that the Republican party will continue to decline and a new conservative party will have to rise to represent us.

Howdy Snappy... Oh these

Howdy Snappy...

Oh these talking head leftist lemmings do know the difference between the parties...they are just doing their best to use their 24/7 bully-pulpit to arm twist 'R' congress-critters to move to the middle or the left if they already are RINOs...intimidation is their game...plus, you had better believe they are worried behind the scenes of the mid-terms....just doing their best with their phony-baloney tactics...as usual, unfortunately, we have a few wussy spineless wonders who have an 'R' after their name who do not speak up or fight back.

Agree with your post there all in all...that's for sure.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I agree with you that most

I agree with you that most do know the difference... unfortunatly the RINO's in office appearantly do not, and a certain 8 who allowed passage of one of the most damaging peices of legislation to our country ....ever I think.

Snappy... OMG...You know

Snappy...

OMG...You know by now I'm sure my outrage since Friday about that vote.....still am hotter than a pepper.

I was talking about the dems knowing the difference though, like your post was talking about at the beginning....sorry if I didn't make myself clearer...know what I mean?

Heck...it has been one hectic day...maybe I'm confusing myself here....lol.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

You were clear, I was just

You were clear, I was just adding.....and I agree, the Dems in leadership know, the libs in the media know, all those spouting their nonsense know, its those who actually believe their nonsense that is frustrating.

"Coming up after the break -

"Coming up after the break - The NY Met Manager will be giving us his suggestions for the Phillies' batting order..."

Yeah, 'ole Bob sure has the

Yeah, 'ole Bob sure has the GOP's best interests at heart...

We ought to do just the opposite of these "journalists" when they offer their "advice."

Monica Crowley in for O'Reilly...I just love her voice!

Brilliant!

The GOP should come out with a list of reach-out suggestions for the Dems:

Here's a few ideas to get them started:

Reach out to private business owners (and, no, I don't mean reach into their cash registers)...

Reach out to unborn babies (and no, I don't mean with surgical instruments) - after all, they could be potential voters....

Reach out to Moms and Dads (not moms and moms and dads and dads)...

Reach out to families who want their kids out of the government run indoctrination centers known as the public schools....

and so on.... 

 

sure, Republicans will give up running social values

 as soon as democrats quit running on economy, defense, environment, tax laws, and anything resembling small government and individual freedoms. That way if it's about hypocrisy, Dems and Repubs will be on a level playing field

 

WWW.GS2AC.COM. 2nd Amendment Grass Roots Action in the Bay Area, CA. We're not all "Breakfast Cereal" folks here! :)

loaded question

"Do you think that Republicans now should sort of shift the emphasis, though, from stressing social and family values and shift to more – to economic issues and be a party of economic conservatives rather than putting so much emphasis on these social issues?"

Uh... why?  What about all those folks who vote on these issues -- does he (wishfully) think that they are just going to vanish?  And why, why do they (the pop-media) care so much?

Oh, and BTW, Republicans run on social issues because Democrats do.  Republican platforms on social issues are really only counter-Democrat platforms.

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

We REALLY need Bob Schieffer's advice

After all, he is the most astute political observer in the US.  Just ask him.  Remember, he is the one that said that McCain lost because he MOVED TO THE RIGHT!!  Yeah, about $787 billion worth of moving to the right.

Schieffer is just trying to get another Dole/GHW Bush set of wins for the Democrats.

"What experience and history teach is
this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history,
or acted on principles deduced from it."


G. W. F. Hegel

I agree, there are really

I agree, there are really only two places I look, for the best political analysis bar none, and that is Bob Schieffer, and The View.

Yes because the combined IQ

Yes because the combined IQ of the women on The View probably exceeds 65.  On a good day.  That Sherri Shepard was the one who thought the world was flat after all, and when Glen Beck came on they grilled him on the important issue of a train ride they were on with him.  It was worth watching for Whoopie Goldberg's pithy "You're just a pile of dog mess" to Beck.

I agree with Sheiffer

This countries values its freedoms, no one wants to told why they can't sleep with someone before they are married, why homosexuality is wrong, why porn is not good for you.

If your Church or your parents said this to you all the time, that is one thing, no one wants to be taught social issues from the government.

I would say Hollywood really wants to express itself freely and that is why they hate conservatives, is because the Christian right it their eyes want to limit free their free speech. If conservatives drop the social preachy issues, then Hollywood would be happy and  the playing field would be even.

He had my vote

Shawn, The government

Shawn,

The government isn't policing who people are sleeping with, telling people homosexuality is wrong, or controlling porn.  People practice all kinds of sexual behaviors without government involvement.  The only social lessons I see being taught by the government is that homosexuality is just fine and you must accept it (this is taught in public schools which equals the government).

I think Hollywood simply wants to make money by outdoing itself in excess of gore and sex.  Lets be real, what is so important to say that it has to be said with an excess or gore or sex?  I'm not for censorship, but I am for labeling so these things are restricted from children.

Hollywood will be happy when they can bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator and thus make themselves feel "normal".

 

Radical

With the exception of some states that outlaw sodomy, you are right no one polices anything. However the Social Conservatives within this party love to tell everyone how wrong it is for two men or two women to be with other, why Family Guy or South Park is the downfall of tv.

For me, I like the libertarian side of the conservatives that love freedom as in real freedom especially personal freedoms. They like to be able to light up a joint without getting busted for harm they are only doing for themselves. There are not many things i like about Obama, but If can name one thing I like about him, it is he has called off the Pot Raids for States that allow medical marijuana.

I really believe if conservatives don't pander to the Christian right and drop the social issues, Hollywood will no longer be in bed with the Dems and the playing field will be more even.

He had my vote

"I really believe if

"I really believe if conservatives don't pander to the Christian right and drop the social issues, Hollywood will no longer be in bed with the Dems and the playing field will be more even."

Meaning that no one will be standing up for family values or morals? The playing field will be even by the lowest common denominator and this country will be no more.

Snappy

No one is stopping anyone from having family values and morals. No one is stopping anyone from going to church. It is not the place of government to dictate these things, it should be up to an individual on what path they want to take

He had my vote

That is exactly correct,

That is exactly correct, however if there is a party that espouses and stands by these ideals, so much the better to represent those who think alike.  That is the key to elected representation, they need to hold to the values that were used to get elected and represent those who hold these values.

Like I said Snappy.....

The party consist of alot more than the Christian right, it also consist of lots of libertarians. You run the risk of pissing them off, if you pander to social conservatives. 

I'm not saying to abandon social issues, just not focus on them as much.

He had my vote

Focus more on social values

You've got it backwards, Shawn.  Conservatives can not abandon their commitment to conservative social values. Those values are part of what makes them a Conservative. If they abandon their public commitment to their values, what's left for them?  They might as well abandon the party and become Democrats.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

If they abandon their public commitment to their values, what's

" If they abandon their public commitment to their values, what's left for them?"

Oh I don't know, how about

  • Small government?
  • Strong military?
  • low taxes?
  • conservative fiscal policy?

 

He had my vote

They are free to leave

That's good, shawn!  Libertarians have two other options: the anything-goes Democratic party or their own crackpot Libertarian party. 

If they do not like the social conservatives that inhabit the Republican party (and oddly enough as unreligious as I am I find they bother me less and less for the most part as time goes by), they are cordially invited to join the other parties noted above.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Well Newt Ginrich

recently said that he is glad Sarah Palin is a republican and he is glad Colin Powel is a republican, sad that some folks want to alienate liberatarians to pander to social conservatives which is the base.

He had my vote

On Newt G_______ and standards

Newt G_______ is a sell-out and a disappointment to me. 

 sad that some folks want to alienate liberatarians to pander to social conservatives which is the base.  Yeah, imagine that, a political party that wants to solidify the base.

The libertarians can go to the Libertarian party or the Dems.  Societies, Shawn, are just going to have standards whether you like it or not.  I do not ache to live in an anything-goes society like you do.  And this is from one who isn't even religious!

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Then apply that to the politicians, Shawn

"it should be up to an individual on what path they want to take"

Then apply that to the politicians, Shawn, and stop complaining when conservative politicians share their beliefs and values publicly. You're basically demanding that politicians keep  their beliefs and values private and not promote them publicly, and that's censorship.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

Hmmm Cobraman

"You're basically demanding that politicians keep  their beliefs and
values private and not promote them publicly, and that's censorship."

I'm not demanding anything, your just saying I am. I'm simply saying no one likes the democrats telling them what to eat and what to feel anymore than republicans telling them what to watch and who to sleep with.

He had my vote

For our "anything-goes" poster

 . I'm simply saying no one likes the democrats telling them what to eat and what to feel anymore  Crusades like the one against sugar and trans fats contradict you here.  Many people embrace those initiatives. 

republicans telling them what to watch and who to sleep with.  When does this happen, Shawn?  Especially that former point on what to watch. 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

If you believe in personal

If you believe in personal freedom how can you support the democratic party?  They are extremely invasive.  Look at the legislation this president has passed or is trying to pass.  He has taken ownership of car manufacturers and banks.  He wants to restrict the choice of schools people can send their children to, and to be involved when a person sells their home.  He no longer allows  medical professionals to not participate in procedures they are morally opposed to.  I could go on.

I'm not sure what the complaint is about Family Guy because that seems to be on t.v. quite often. 

Well Radical

I could have easily have voted for Obama, but I ended up voting for McCain. To me it was the less of two evils. People accuse me  of being a liberal all the time, so I even call myself liberal on occassion and go with the flow, but with exception of me liking the end of pot raids and stem cell research, there is not many kind things I have said about Obama unless you know of some I forgotten about.

He had my vote

STANDARDS

 This countries values its freedoms, no one wants to told why they can't sleep with someone before they are married, why homosexuality is wrong, why porn is not good for you.  Because a lot of people, you included, want a no-fault existence, and a good time without ANY consequences whatsoever.  That, and it deeply upsets you that society, as all societies have had for about the past 6000 years or so, has STANDARDS. 

I would say Hollywood really wants to express itself freely and that is why they hate conservatives, is because the Christian right it their eyes want to limit free their free speech.  That this rarely if ever happens never dares enter consideration.    If conservatives drop the social preachy issues, then Hollywood would be happy and  the playing field would be even.  Translation: social conservatives need to SHUT UP and allow for an anything-goes society completely deviod of those stupid, anti-fun STANDARDS.

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

next time, think before you write

See my comment just above.

Republicans run on "social issues" because Democrats do -- the Republican platforms are merely counter-Democrat platforms.

Now, let's go point-by-point through shwan228's ramblings.

  1. To my knowledge, there is no law about "sleeping with someone before they are married."  If you wanna give the most intimate part of you to somebody else without any committment, that's your business.

  2. "Marriage" is an English term (note that there is an equivalent term in all other languages) that refers to a specific relationship that has been stamped into the very fabric of our being by Mother Nature -- the male-female relationship.  Because of this basic fact, religion must by definition be "involved," but marriage is not, and has not, been exclusively the domain of religion -- one can easily have a secular marriage.

  3. Porn is also legal, like tobacco and alcohol, but not without some restrictions....  like tobacco and alcohol.  And there are restrictions for good reasons.  Is shawn228 suggesting that we should make porn available to children?  That it should grace our public landscape?  Why is it so difficult for folks like shawn228 to comprehend that "freedom of speech" does not mean one can say (or expose) whatever one wants, whenever he wants, at least not without consequences.  That is the nature of the human beast.

  4. "no one wants to be taught social issues from the government"  -- well, then I hate to break this to you, but the Democratic Party is not for you either.  IMHO, they are far more preachy about "social issues" than Republicans are.  Yes, they do preach.  The only difference lies in the "belief system," or "set of morals," or "values system" subscribed to.  I submit that the Democratic Party has become very confused about this.

  5. So, we have an Advocate for Hollywood here?  Like they need an Advocate.  shawn228 is asking for Republicans to surrender "social issues" to the Democrats so that Almighty Hollywood may be appeased!  Long live Hollywood!

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

Re Mother Nature

I have noticed that in nature, those very rare cases of 'homosexuality' observed in animals are considered aberrant and scientists debate whether there might be a biological/evolutionary need for such aberration. They are put on display in zoos as tourist attractions. Scientists study their brains to see if there is anything abnormal there. Why is is considered out-of-bounds to consider the same points in the human species?

I am no zoologist, but

...it seems rather intuitive to me that those isolated cases (statistical outliers) of homosexual behavior in the animal kingdom are somehow the results of signals getting crossed -- perhaps an errant scent, a pheromone, etc. 

In the end, sexual arousal in animals results from a certain set of stimuli designed to facilitate the organic ends of copulation, and departures from these stimuli are contrary to survival (e.g., as an individual, I would be at an extreme disadvantage if, say, I were sexually aroused by, say, an imminent attack by a carnivore higher on the food chain).

 

"Let's wrap him up, alright?" -- Keith Olbermann

In nature, the purpose of

In nature, the purpose of life is procreation and the continuance of the species.  Homosexuality does not further this and as such is an aberration of nature. 

Is the Republican party

Is the Republican party actively seeking the advise of stray Democrats?  Or is Scheiffer just gratuitiously torpedoing them?

The Helpful Media

Ronald Reagan won two landslide victories without ever changing his position. He stated who he was and the electorate moved to him. The media in America are nothing if not consistent. George W Bush spent money like a liberal and we constantly heard that his “conservative values” were hurting him. John McCain was Barack Obama lite with his plans for spending and amnesty for illegal aliens, and yet we were told by the media that he lost because he was aligned with the “conservative base” of the Republican Party.

Truth be told, McCain lost because he alienated the conservative base. It was Sarah Palin who energized the base and the media made sure she was punished for it.  When conservatives run as who they are – they win. When liberals run as who they really are – they lose. Democrats know this, which is why the so-called Blue Dog democrats won by adopting positions that were more conservative than their republican opponents during the campaign. Of course, once in office they have fallen into line with Nancy Pelosi in their voting. The news media know that conservative positions are winners at the ballot box too, which is why they continually bad mouth conservative positions and offer their “suggestions” at every turn.

jessieH          

jessieH              Only conservatives have morals to live up to. The liberals get to what ever they want. Like lie, cheat, steal, ect.