On Thursday’s CBS Early Show, co-host Julie Chen teased an upcoming segment on a new way to combat global warming: "Up next, if you could do one thing to fight global warming, would you do it? How about painting your roof white? We’ll explain." Fill-in co-host Chris Wragge later introduced the report: "Could painting your roof white be the best defense against global warming? Some very important people think so. So Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman put that idea to the test."
Kauffman explained: "In any given city, most rooftops are black. And that's the problem. The darker the surface, the more heat it retains...the lighter the surface, the better it is for the environment." Kauffman talked to Bill Nye, ‘The Science Guy,’ who further explained: "The building doesn't get as hot so you don't need to run the air conditioner nearly as long."
Later, Kauffman cited Obama Energy Secretary Steven Chu: "[he] says if all rooftops and roads in the world were made white it could combat global warming." A clip was played of Chu claiming: "That would be the equivalent as if you took off all the automobiles of the world for eleven years." Kauffman added: "Think of it this way, every year you would keep out of the atmosphere 2.4 billion tons of carbon dioxide or the emissions produced by 60 million cars. There’d be even more savings if roads and parking lots were not covered in black asphalt." Nye declared that asphalt was: "...absorbing more heat...squandering billions of tons of carbon dioxide every year."
Wragge and fellow co-host Maggie Rodriguez acknowledged the humor in calling for all roofs and roads in the world to be painted white. Rodriguez remarked: "I hear Benjamin Moore is thrilled with the idea. Thinks it's phenomenal. We should definitely do it." Wragge added: "Home Depot’s like, ‘this is going to be great for us!’"
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
7:10AM TEASE:
CHRIS WRAGGE: Plus, we're going to tell you why white may be the new green when it comes to the color of your roof.
7:19AM TEASE:
JULIE CHEN: Up next, if you could do one thing to fight global warming, would you do it? How about painting your roof white? We’ll explain.
7:22AM SEGMENT:
CHRIS WRAGGE: Could painting your roof white be the best defense against global warming? Some very important people think so. So Early Show national correspondent Hattie Kauffman put that idea to the test.
HATTIE KAUFFMAN: In any given city, most rooftops are black. And that's the problem. The darker the surface, the more heat it retains. So here we are, on the roof of CBS Television City. Bill Nye, ‘The Science Guy,’ used a meter to demonstrate the lighter the surface, the better it is for the environment.
BILL NYE: This goes up nearly to 50 over this silver surface.
KAUFFMAN: Okay.
NYE: Then if we – if we look at the other side of this --
KAUFFMAN: Black, which many rooftops are.
NYE: And streets, asphalt, then it goes down below 5.
KAUFFMAN: Whoa. Why does that matter?
NYE: The building doesn't get as hot so you don't need to run the air conditioner nearly as long. So if you do that-
KAUFFMAN: If it's white.
NYE: -everywhere. If it's light.
KAUFFMAN: Here's a shining example, the white-painted villages in Greece. Turns out they were ahead of their time. Energy Secretary Steven Chu says if all rooftops and roads in the world were made white it could combat global warming.
STEVEN CHU: That would be the equivalent as if you took off all the automobiles of the world for eleven years.
KAUFFMAN: Think of it this way, every year you would keep out of the atmosphere 2.4 billion tons of carbon dioxide or the emissions produced by 60 million cars. There’d be even more savings if roads and parking lots were not covered in black asphalt.
NYE: So the same needle says just 2 ½.
KAUFFMAN: Which means what?
NYE: Which means it's absorbing more heat, keeping the city warmer. It's squandering billions of tons of carbon dioxide every year.
KAUFFMAN: Hattie Kauffman, CBS News, Los Angeles.
WRAGGE: In theory, sounds like a great idea.
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: Yeah.
WRAGGE: You need a lot of white paint.
RODRIGUEZ: I hear Benjamin Moore is thrilled with the idea. Thinks it's phenomenal. We should definitely do it.
WRAGGE: Home Depot’s like, ‘this is going to be great for us!’
RODRIGUEZ: I know.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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And we can plant dainty little white flowers too!
May 28, 2009 - 11:31 ET by jefflebowskiAnd wear only white clothing and develop white grass (it's called snow in Minnesota) and go to all-white country clubs...oops..I don't think the libs intended that!
More mindless non-sense from the Church of Global Warmi...oops...Church of Climate Change where Rev. Al "Money Love" Gore preaches every Sunday!
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Paint your trees
May 28, 2009 - 11:43 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsYou beat me to it. I was going to point out all those acres and acres of dark green bushes, grasses, trees we aren't supposed to touch, because that would disturb the environment, are sucking up a whole lot of sunshine. Paint them white too??
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Gee, maybe we should ask Obama
May 28, 2009 - 12:04 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltto mandate that people "of color" to dress in whitface paint, because they're absorbing too much heat, what with being dark-skinned....
What? Did I say something wrong? What...?!
I am bald--
May 28, 2009 - 12:46 ET by misterbill-- but I don't wear a hat. I reflect the natural rays of the sun back into space, (not the space between my ears).
Remove the grass, truck in
May 28, 2009 - 20:12 ET by GregERemove the grass, truck in white sand.
So Now its White not Green?
May 28, 2009 - 17:37 ET by allanfChu is a noble laureate. He embarrasses himself. Sad.
How fun in winter
May 28, 2009 - 11:36 ET by moderncommentaries83For folks like me to drive on white roads covered with white snow.
Hello, massive accidents!
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam
I wonder what the environmental impact of making all that paint
May 28, 2009 - 11:40 ET by R D Helm...will be?
These idiots have lost their minds.
Besides, GW isn't even happening.
-Dave
Hmmm...
May 28, 2009 - 11:59 ET by SickofLibsCould be the answer to the unemployment problem, though.
Since the paint wouldn't last more than a few years, roof-painting could employ millions.
"....create or save...."
May 28, 2009 - 20:13 ET by GregE"....create or save...."
white/black
May 28, 2009 - 11:40 ET by JIMMY1660hey knuckleheads-how about us folks in the upper midwest-we want black to help draw the warmth when its winter-besides roof paint is made by folks like Kool Seal(sherwin williams bought them several years ago) in Cleveland ohio-its not regular house paint-this white paint thing has been in play for years in those hot climates-where have these morons been.
BHO- the one term DIMOCRAT
Maybe somebody can explain
May 28, 2009 - 11:57 ET by Jack BauerMaybe somebody can explain this to me.
A white roof or road reflects the SUN'S RAYS and that's "good" according to the Greenian Fundamentalist.
Okay -- where is this reflected heat reflected?
Err, straight back into the atmosphere as heat, perhaps?
So -- wouldn't the air around buildings, towns, citys be, ahem -- HOTTER as white buildings radiate heat -- as opposed to absorbing it?
And this helps with so-called "global warming" how?
On a side issue -- how many car drivers and passengers are going to DIE due to road dazzle?
Does not Blazing sunlight + white surface = BLINDED FRACKIN' CAR/TRUCK DRIVERS
This will be especially
May 28, 2009 - 12:18 ET by ThisnThatThis will be especially painful, since dark sunglasses would obviously have to be banned.
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TnT -- not banned. Just
May 28, 2009 - 12:21 ET by Jack BauerTnT -- not banned. Just painted white.
Explaination
May 28, 2009 - 13:59 ET by gravitonSunlight coming off a white surface is reflected in the form of radiation, not heat. There is a big difference. Hot air is air molecules that have a lot of energy, whereas radiation is light (photons). Dark materials that absorb light recieve that light's energy and it makes them vibrate more (and thus become hotter). Reflected photons aren't going to heat their surroundings because air is transparent to most light -- these photons would bounce back into space.
Buildings with white or reflective roofs would indeed be cooler in the summer, especially on the top floors. They are claiming it would help with global warming because people living in these spaces would use less energy for air conditioning. It wouldn't have much of an effect in the winter because during winter months: (a) there is less sunlight, (b) sunlight is less direct (it comes in at an angle instead of overhead), and (c) there are many more cloudy days in the winter. You might gain a little bit of heat during the winter, but taken on balance you would end up conserving.
Whether or not you believe in global warming, this is one of those small things that would reduce energy usage, which no one is against really. Using actual "paint" isn't a great idea, nor is having white road surfaces, but there is no good reason that roof shingles shouldn't be white.
What you're saying does
May 28, 2009 - 14:49 ET by dscottWhat you're saying does make engineering sense, but why up to this point haven't roofing manufacturers taken advantage of this effect? As a person who makes a living maintaining buildings, few of them actually had a black roof. Most have a light colored grey rock ballast or light colored finish coating on top of the tar paper (roll roof). I had one special vinyl white roof, you had to wear sunglasses or you see spots for a half hour. Such material is extremely expensive.
However, now a days most roofs have insulation between the tar paper and the concrete deck. So simply painting a roof white doesn't get you much in the way of HVAC savings. Now if you are talking those old 3 story walk ups with black roofs, that would do some good. Either paint the area with silver roof coating or put down light colored ballast.
Oh, one hole in this whole idea, since heat rises and roofs are at the top of buildings any heat absorbed is not transfered to the ground air. Only the black tar on the roads and parking lots add heat to the ground air and NO ONE including Bill Nye is so stupid as to suggest changing the color of the roads. Even a light grey may pose a vision safety hazard from the glare.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
→ It's not new technology
May 28, 2009 - 15:00 ET by Cool ArrowAttics hold a surprising amount of hot air.
But it is sound science on a personal cost level.
A white roof along with proper ventilation would, indeed, lower the temperature in the attic.
In most homes the ductwork is run through the attic, and would thus make for lower cooling bills.
The fact that dark surfaces heat up more in sunlight is not a new observation. And many roofs here in Texas are shingled in light colors.
Put a thermometer in a black car, windows open, and do the same with an identical white car.
You will register a significant difference.
Actually, cities have been
May 28, 2009 - 15:53 ET by gravitonActually, cities have been doing this for quite some time to combat the urban heat island effect. I have no idea why it isn't already more common to do this, it probably has to do with the expense of the roofing materials. And you are right that lots of roofs are already light grey.
It actually does effect "ground air" temperatures in cities (though this part would have nothing to do with global warming). Hot air does tend to rise, but diffuses in all directions at least somewhat. Think about it like this: if you put a heating coil in the top of a vat of water it would still end up heating some of the water below it. You also have the effect of air conditioners. To make the inside of the building cool, an air conditioner has to heat the outside just as much. The energy difference always has to balance.
None of that really has anything to do with a supposed global warming connection though, that would depend entirely on how much electricity was saved. I don't know how sigificant it would be, but homes and businesses could probably save some money this way. I'd personally vote for aluminum since it would look all futury.
an interesting idea...
May 28, 2009 - 22:50 ET by David N MOAs you say, the science is sound. Just think of how much cooler a white car is than any other color. And it's the same reason propane tanks are painted either silver or white. Practically any other color can cause it to overheat and spout gas. (as my friend who painted his with Life-Saver colors found out).
But what makes them think that most of that energy will be reflected back out into space? It kind of depends on where in the country you live. And you already what it is like to drive into the morning sun. Can you imagine driving into a wall of light as the sun reflects off of all the roofs onto the highways?
I'm not opposed to it being encouraged (TAX rebate!). Do it on flattops out west. They can even paint the desert white to save the planet if they wish! I only wish this Kaufman would do for themselves first. I hate being told what to do by an idealog without experience.
But first there is the question of what white is. Look HERE: http://answers.yahoo...
This site says a maximum of 44% can be reflected. And as sap and pollen and dirt discolor it to a rather sad streaky brown lime green that will probly drop alot (I live in the middle of Missouri).
But maybe I'll put white standing seam metal roofing on the south side of my garage where it won't annoy the neighbors. Even with insulation it gets pretty hot and I don't want to run an airconditioner all of the time... Hope my wife doesn't catch me.
David
"Save me from the Good People!"
Graviton,
May 29, 2009 - 12:50 ET by JoeBobGraviton,
While you and Cool Arrow are correct about the reflection of visible light from white surfaces being an improvement over black colors, what many people don't realize is that lots of materials change emissive properties radically when you're talking about infrared (heat) wavelengths. For example, metal oxide paints, including titanium oxide (white) paint, are very emissive in the infrared, which means the only benefit you gain from them is the energy reflected in the visible wavelengths. A better choice would be a metal foil coating, with gold being the best choice in the visible and infrared wavelengths. Better make sure your state has a Castle Doctrine first, though. And liberals can use tinfoil.
JoeBob
Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious
"And this helps with
May 28, 2009 - 15:30 ET by Ten7s"And this helps with so-called "global warming" how?
"
It doesn't! Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax. And on top of that, they are confusing global warming w/ the heat island effect experienced by cities. It would help make the city cooler, like wearing a white suit in the summer might make an individual a little cooler.
Jack... On a side issue
May 28, 2009 - 15:03 ET by bigtimerJack...
On a side issue -- how many car drivers and passengers are going to DIE due to road dazzle?
Does not Blazing sunlight + white surface = BLINDED FRACKIN' CAR/TRUCK DRIVERS
Exactly right!
...and we in the North thought White-Outs only happened in the winter time while driving.
This idea is pure insanity!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt,
May 28, 2009 - 17:25 ET by R D HelmLOL-These kooks will look upon fewer drivers as a bonus, no matter how it comes about.
-Dave
Dave... Well, since they
May 28, 2009 - 17:37 ET by bigtimerDave...
Well, since they (Cafe Standards) are being forced to reduce the engine power by the govt. I'm sure they will have the speed limit cut down to 40 miles per hour too with this whiz-bang idea.
I've been in a hurry here today, just checking in and out, got too many things going on at once today...but you get my drift.
As Reagan said...Govt. isn't the Solution...Govt. is THE problem.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
How does it help
May 28, 2009 - 17:39 ET by allanfI think the adherenets would argue that it reduces the heat load in a building. I don't get the road thing at all. As for heat load, attics and insulation take care of that.
For the roads, the additional reflected light would result in reduced visibility and increased accidents. But who cares if its for such a good cause.
Actually this proposal is about "grant money" for a study by some scientists. A way of spending our tax dollars.
Wouldn't white roads deflect
May 28, 2009 - 11:52 ET by balboaWouldn't white roads deflect a lot of heat back into the atmosphere? Plus that road glare would be phenomenal.
But think of the fun in the winter.
May 28, 2009 - 12:03 ET by Dave in TexasCan you imagine the ice buildup on a white road in the winter? And when the sun eventually did come out, it wouldn't matter. It could take weeks for the ice to melt.
What winter? Global warming
May 28, 2009 - 12:13 ET by ThisnThatWhat winter? Global warming has destroyed winter. Didn't get the memo?
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They left out the money quote...
May 28, 2009 - 11:54 ET by SickofLibsFrom Stephen Chu's speech: "Yes, make people paint their roofs white. I THINK WHITE IS PRETTY..."
Another Nobel Laureate.
PS, Kaufman: the reason Greek villages are white is because they have traditionally been lime-washed, not painted - and lime is white.
All of them are NUTS
May 28, 2009 - 11:57 ET by david999Bill Nye wears a bowtie and a suit jacket that is too small for him and you are listening to him??
BTW the heat is energy, it does not disappear because you paint surfaces white.
Try working in any building without a/c and see how stifling hot it will get. I use to work in Minnesota in a warehouse with no a/c and had to endure that muggy weather in the summer. In wintertime you would need to crank up the heat even more since you painted the building white to reflect away the sun's heat.
You can't get something without a cost.
None of these reporters works in a non a/c building. Bill Nye has solar panels for his roof (which are dark by the way)! He or more likely the tv show he was on (Living with Ed) paid a fortune for those panels and would never recoup the costs but they can lie and say how green they are.
bowtie and small suit jacket
May 28, 2009 - 12:03 ET by SickofLibsHe's either channeling PeeWee Herman or that annoying loudmouth infommercial jerk with the question-mark suit jacket.
Dude, nevermind the outfit,
May 28, 2009 - 12:31 ET by merkavaDude, nevermind the outfit, according to Chris Wragge this guy is "very important people." Clearly looking like a buffoon can only help gain attention to the cause, hence the bow tie.
I'm disappointed in his clothing choice in some ways though, whilst his shirt is white and thus fighting "Global Warming," it's rendered useless by the beige suit and the dark bow tie. His hair is also the wrong colour, I'd suggest a buzzcut or blonde dye.
Don't get me started on Hattie's flowing CO2-"squandering" locks either, or the black stripes on her blouse.
Why is he called the science guy?
May 28, 2009 - 11:59 ET by Dave in Texas"The building doesn't get as hot so you don't need to run the air conditioner nearly as long."
The building will only get hot if there's nothing between the roof and the living space inside the building. But if you have this neat stuff called insulation, and other neat stuff called ventilation, you don't care how hot your roof gets.
Also, if you have your water heater in your attic, like I do, that hot roof creates a hot attic, which reduces the amount of energy the water heater needs.
dave in texas---
May 28, 2009 - 12:06 ET by misterbillNo, no --listen closely--he is Bill Nye the sinus guy!
more "neat stuff"
May 28, 2009 - 12:26 ET by mom_roxRadiant barrier foil and radiant barrier paint (the paint is less efficient than the foil).
~~save your tea, dump congress~~
anyone remember...
May 28, 2009 - 12:30 ET by katainkentthe second to the last ep of Firefly where the [brothel] house is wrapped in foil to keep out the heat? Kinda like a TV dinner? That's what I envision. We'll all have to travel at night or go blind at an early age.
The lunatics are running the asylum!
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
I read about this, and
May 28, 2009 - 12:11 ET by ThisnThatI read about this, and loved the money quote: But at least one science expert thinks Chu [the scientist who proposed this] is nuts. "It's past simplistic -- it's ridiculous," says Steven Milloy, publisher of junkscience.com and an avowed climate-change skeptic.
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Here's another NEATO
May 28, 2009 - 12:12 ET by Jack BauerHere's another NEATO government idea (gosh, bureaucrats are so FULL of novel ideas) to stop buildings getting hot.
Remove all windows -- apparently light passing through GLASS can heat the air inside a room. Especially rooms with an excess of CO2 caused by dirty humans breathing out the traitorous pollutant! Who knew Chu?
Next brick up the space left by the removed glass. Paint WHITE.
Boom - ready to go!
What we need is WHITE PAINT CZAR. That should help.
Jesus Christ on a crutch, these people are dim.
May 28, 2009 - 12:12 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltThere are so many angles to this idea that are just plain stupid. First of all, a building more than a few stories high has neglible loss of heat/cool as an overall percentage of energy used.
Secondly, you can't PAINT a house roof in most cases. The roofing shingles just won't hold the paint, and then you have the runoff polluting the groundwater.
And what about making the white "paint"? White is the most energy intensive color to make.
And how do you paint a road white without making it dangerously slick? And how often do you need to repaint it?
And don't you love how she introduces Bill Nye and how he "used a meter to demonstrate" something, but never identifies what the meter measures exactly, or even what the meter is? She just spouts the numbers, as if they magically translate to energy savings without any detail behind them. Did anyone else think of Spinal Tap ("...because eleven is one more than ten...") when she said that?
Holy crap, I'm gonna explode...
Not Painful Enough
May 28, 2009 - 12:13 ET by slickwillie2001This would never be accepted by the Warmists, because as a solution it's not painful enough. No potential source of new revenue, no potential for a redistribution of wealth, doesn't increase government power, etc. There's just not enough of a hairshirt aspect to it for the Warmists to accept such a simple solution.
PS Back when global cooling, or another ice age was the fear du jour, there was talk of dusting the polar caps with soot to increase heat absorption. My suggestion that we might have to stage a nuclear war to initiate a nuclear winter to put out 'global warming' usually gets me nothing but strange looks, but I'm used to that.
They could trade
May 28, 2009 - 12:17 ET by ThisnThatThey could trade "white-paint credits". Everyone who doesn't have at least 98% of everything painted white would have to pay a white-paint fee. Cap and trade, doncha know?
This would also increase the amount of good luck for everyone, since black cats won't be allowed.
The only drawback? People of color. But I won't go there just yet.....
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Gov palin leads the country with snow white igloos.
May 28, 2009 - 13:17 ET by sevenAll this is change. Everything is the wrong color and needs to be changed.
Algore and his flock fleesing creativity.
Not only does Pelosi's luxury Boeing 757 cost taxpayers about $15 million a year, but it certainly doesn't do anything for keeping the air between Washington, D.C., and California any cleaner. What would Al Gore say? Isn't Pelosi contributing to global warming?
Here's some quotable quotes about the Pelosi plane flap:
"The jet that Pelosi has produces 10,000 pounds of carbon dioxide an hour, far more than the previous speaker used," said Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C. Air Farce III
aw cmon!
May 28, 2009 - 12:17 ET by katainkentthis is really from the Onion. It's gotta be.
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Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past - George Orwell - 1984
Or a preview of that new
May 28, 2009 - 18:35 ET by Chris NormanOr a preview of the "The Goode Family".
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
The onscreen graphics:
May 28, 2009 - 12:17 ET by merkavaThe onscreen graphics: "...FIGHT AGAINST GLOBAL WARMING"
It's fact now, just like that. Nevermind debating whether it's happening or not, it's been decided arbitrarily. I suppose now it's heading towards summer for much of the planet they can use "Global Warming" again as opposed to "Climate Change."
"Nye declared that asphalt was: "...absorbing more heat...squandering billions of tons of carbon dioxide every year."
Pardon? *Squandering* CO2? So we're wasting it on asphalt now? I thought it was a waste product in itself with no legitimate use? I'd love to see a detailed breakdown of the *correct* amount of CO2 needed for every country/ecosystem on the planet. How do we know when we've gone too far? Do we wait till the plants start dying and then buy those old lightbulbs again till it balances out?
Why did no-one think of painting the roads white before? Oh that's right, common sense. I assume triple-strength sunglasses will become mandatory during daylight hours given the reflections off of the shiny white surface. I suppose keeping it clean will create a few million jobs though.
Jesse Jackson hits the roof!
May 28, 2009 - 12:27 ET by Jack BauerThe Rev. Jesse Jackson weighs in...
White is the new black
May 28, 2009 - 13:07 ET by seven2 days ago Joseph Romm was all tingly over this. He is the touch guy that wants us to hustle and sign energy tax legislation. No reading it of course.
He is a liberal Dem formerly of the clinton era. No industry experience. Where do these idiots with no industrial experience alll of a sudden know all about agriculture, industry manufacturing and economics?
They claim to know all. Most actually need to take lithium and forget running everything on lithium batteries.
→ Let's get real
May 28, 2009 - 13:34 ET by Cool ArrowOn a personal cost level, cooling a home with a white roof is going to be cheaper than cooling ahome with a dark roof.
The attic heat is greater under a dark roof, and since the ductwork usually runs through the attic, it takes more energy to cool the house.
I don't know how much reflected heat goes back out into space, but I'd bet some of it does.
My guess is that on a personal level, the $avings is significant, but as far as cooling the planet, I doubt there's much effect.
If you ever played with a magnifying glass in the sunlight, you know dark surfaces tend to burn more quickly than light surfaces.
Chu deserves a refund ...
May 28, 2009 - 13:35 ET by metaphorsbwithuAssuming he paid for his education, I think Steven Chu is entitled to a refund. And if we the taxpayers paid for it, we deserve one too ... and fast.
These people are intent on spending trillions of dollars on solutions that won't work to correct problems that don't exist.
Maybe "Big Paint" is behind this foolishness. I can see the people lining up for grants to study the feasibility of this boondoggle now.
What a racket!
metaphorsbwithu
Well said...
May 28, 2009 - 13:54 ET by sam12663President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Its official.....
May 28, 2009 - 13:53 ET by sam12663these environmental geeks are CRAZY! The fact the we have a high ranking member of this administration saying these types of things is both hilarious and scary. First it was "inflate your tires", and now we get " paint everything white"! Who the hell are these wackjobs? The shame of it all is that 'global warming' is nothing more than a money making scam, headed by that Internet creator Al Gore. Many scientists now believe that the planet is COOLING, yet the farce is still supported by our government, all for economic gains. As Jerry Lewis once said....Laaaaddddyyy!
President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to be a total fraud.
WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION!
Chu is a new magic Science guy, There is no CO2 to heat ratio.
May 28, 2009 - 13:54 ET by upcountrywaterPaint all roofs white, and carbon is reduced...new science
Paint all roofs white and no one will ever drive again.. new transportation.
Gold (foil) is the best reflector of heat...Pave the streets with gold.
I'm going to tune in coast to coast am, to get my science news from now on.
Reagan VS Carter and 0bama
I'm all for this
May 28, 2009 - 14:06 ET by CacciatoI'm all for this plan...
if Kauffman's wiling to re-tar my roof and then paint it white free of charge. I never see it so I couldn't care less about what color it is.
Paint the solar panels white
May 28, 2009 - 14:37 ET by wingnut55Should we paint the solar panels white, too? I think Pat Sajak of the Wheel of Fortune had the best idea to save CO2 emissions. Just exhale one less time an hour. It should do just as good as painting roads and roofs white.
You're all missing the obvious...
May 28, 2009 - 15:13 ET by habbyguyFirst, while it does sound silly, there is at least some validity in the concept (though as many have pointed out, you can't paint most roofing material). School busses here in Arizona have white roofs for the same reason.
Second, and most important, this is a HUGE opportunity for the Republicans. What they need to do is to embrace this concept and push HARD for legislation to lighten future road surfaces (there are some alternatives to asphalt that accomplish this at a low cost, and have other advantages). They could push for tax credits for white roof coatings (which would apply primarily to businesses, since most industrial buildings have non-shingled flat roofs).
The advantage of this is that the Republicans would then be able to - through the science of one of the left's own - claim having done many times more good in "greening" the planet than all of the expensive plans of the Democrats. They'd also be able to claim that such "progress" makes the plans to force us all into tiny electric cars unnecessary.
It would be a beautiful thing.
The Imagine Video by John Lennon where everything is white
May 28, 2009 - 15:22 ET by dark_dsThe Imagine Video by John Lennon where everything is white is allegedy the source of this great idea .....Obama while smoking some herb in the 70s remarked "man this is video is cool"
_______ Him and the Unicorn he rode in on
I can't believe this...
May 28, 2009 - 15:58 ET by carolina09OK, I admit I didn't read the whole article. But how long does it take to point out that while painting a roof white would make the house it covers less hot, the heat reflects right back in the local atmosphere. It doesn't go back to the sun!
This guy got a Nobel Prize!! What an idiot!!
Cars Too
May 28, 2009 - 16:25 ET by slickwillie2001Here's the same issue re the color of our cars: Any car color as long as it's not black?: http://www.newscientist.com
Algores black suv
May 28, 2009 - 17:51 ET by sevenAl Gore’s SUV Left Running While He Lectures About Global Warming
Posted on July 24, 2008 by yojoe
For a man not unaccustomed to hypocrisy, given the carbon footprint of this home, this should not be surprising. But, one would think that he could at least turn off the AC.
According to National Post, while Al Gore lectured the unwashed masses about abandoning fossil fuels, his
Rules for thee but not for me
May 28, 2009 - 19:32 ET by dboCheck out Gore's drivers response when he's asked about idling his limo too long.
We can look forward too...
May 28, 2009 - 17:40 ET by mizflame98...an increase in stip mining, pollutted water, energy use, and poisonous chemical use just to make enough white paint to do the job. That's green eco-friendly philosophy for you. They don't bother thinking of the ramifications of their hair-brained ideas.
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
Samuel Adams
The greenies are so stupid
May 28, 2009 - 17:48 ET by sevenThey can wear their tinfoil hats indoors and out and accomplish the same thing.
Most of these fools have no idea that there is space in commercial buildings between the ceiling and the outer roof. The insulation is laid above the ceiling and the roof temp is irrelevant. A black roof catches heat which rises. Oh my at 50,000 feet up, heat rising it is below zero.
Nye is clueless
May 28, 2009 - 20:51 ET by Ralph Hansen Ph. D.There is a great clip on Youtube from a Larry King interview in which MIT climatologist Richard Lindzen absolutely destroys Bill Nye.
Nye spouts a few of the alarmist speaking points and the brilliant Dr. Lindzen makes Nye look like the complete idiot he is. Nye actually mentions his role on the advisory council of the environmental extremist Union of Concerned Scientists as if to puff up his credentials.
The guy is a Mr. Wizard who does cool science experiments for elementary students. According to his bio, he holds a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering. But he's clearly out of his league in any discussion about climate science. Furthermore, it's a reflection on the credibility of the CBS Morning Show that it would use Nye as a subject matter expert.
Expert...HA!
May 29, 2009 - 15:26 ET by mizflame98The man started out on a comedy show out of Seattle called Almost Live.
“It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds”
Samuel Adams
Thank you for this post & link... is their a second half to the
May 29, 2009 - 15:17 ET by pahuberclip?
I'm a figgurin'
May 28, 2009 - 20:57 ET by jaywlI'm rat now figgurin' how to spend my furst million. Those guys are right, if we paint everything white to reflect all that solar energy, it would be a godsend. The summer sun beats down so hard in places like Florida it becomes unbearable. Wear a black shirt and step into the sun from an air conditioned room and it feels like a prickly pear cactus is pricking your back. A white shirt, or roof, would make a difference. Of course, in the winter we want solar absorption. Black stuff. Black walls, or at least solar friendly dark, massive stone that will store the energy for release at night. Massive flooring, Black pipes for hot water storage.
Where I'm going to make all kinds of money is in the painting business! I'm sure Obama will fund this scheme---business. Green jobs for unemployed Acorn agitators. We'll paint everything twice a year, black, white, black, white.Then for the coup de grassee. All that paint will be oil based, maybe with a little lead doping. $SUPERFUND$ $Millions! A few donations to the Big O's favorite charity, hisself's reelection, and no doubt with my knowledge of where all the paint is hidden, I'll get the cleanup booty. Anybody want in on the ground floor? Its guarandamnteed. After the removal business, comes BANKRUPTCY! More money, buy from yourself, stiff yourself, threaten massive layoffs, Bailout City!
Look out World, here I come!
and now the fine print
May 29, 2009 - 09:48 ET by ZuccoZoid- all that paint manufacturing will be outsourced to China, unless the unions can cut a deal to triple the cost of US made paint;
- "green jobs" will be foisted on the public, such as collecting paint cans for "recycling"; and new legions of bureaucrats to monitor proper paint use and disposal (all with appropriate taxes, fines and fees);
- entrepreneurs trying to make a profit off of saving the earth will have their businesses forced into unionization, nationalization or both, depending on the % of profits donated to the democrat party;
"NYE: Which means it's
May 28, 2009 - 22:19 ET by ckc1227"NYE: Which means it's absorbing more heat, keeping the city warmer. It's squandering billions of tons of carbon dioxide every year."
It's also absorbing more heat in the winter. Paint all the roofs white, and we'll just have to run the heat more to make up for this loss, most likely negating most gains recognized by painting roofs white, if there are any to begin with.
I think they just want to
May 28, 2009 - 22:42 ET by RR GOPI think they just want to make sure the terrorists have an easier time finding their targets from 30,000 feet.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
A new Passover?
May 28, 2009 - 23:35 ET by okie-pastorIn the Old testament, the Hebrews covered their doorposts with blood to show the angel of death they believed and belonged to God. This, it seems is an eco passover. The angel of global warming death will pass over the house of all those who cover the rooftops white. Who says 'global warming' isn't a religion?
okie... You've got me
May 28, 2009 - 23:40 ET by bigtimerokie...
You've got me smiling...
...and of course so is alGore and ilk, all the way to the bank...at our expense of course.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Actually roofs should be
May 28, 2009 - 23:59 ET by Dan The Man 2Actually roofs should be sodded with grass and plants. They are heat sinks and reflect a certain amount of radiation. In addition they also change CO2 to O2 at an amazing rate. A sodded roof provides insulative properties reducing cooling and heating.
An even better choice if an underground house and cool tubes running 100's of feet underground. These provide a more stable temperature and lower cooling and heating bills.
More Distractions
May 29, 2009 - 06:27 ET by Sergeant ROCKTo avoid attention on the economy and the government take-over of it.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Racial pride = environmental pride
May 29, 2009 - 09:35 ET by ZuccoZoidI can finally shuck off my "white guilt" knowing that my light skin reflects more light, absorbs less heat and I'm generally more eco-friendly than my dark skinned counterparts.
BTW, what do we do with all those paint cans??
White guilt
May 29, 2009 - 09:38 ET by Sergeant ROCKlol.. good point! I wonder if we'll see the headline: 'Black People Cause Global Warming.'
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Hey Rock
May 29, 2009 - 21:19 ET by ZuccoZoidMinorities are ALWAYS victims no matter the circumstance, at least according to the MSM. They will never "cause" global warming or such.
A more likely approach would be gov't incentives to house minorities in "white" neighborhoods, especially in Northern states during winter - "science" now demonstrates that minorities, by virtue of skin color, absorb more heat, thus reducing demand on fuel. This could be a tax incentive, or a gov't mandate.
Should there be a concern about minority employment, rest assured the gov't will provide said minorities with authority to monitor your paint usage.
Depending on your racial identity, you could be shipped anywhere in the world where "reflectivity" or "heat absorption" may be needed - plus you could earn carbon credits if you "volunteer" - and you can wear them like boy scout badges!
Lighten up, folks! Just having fun here... can we still laugh about each other anymore?
um....
May 29, 2009 - 10:02 ET by candanceWhat happens in the winter when our homes absorb less heat and we have to run the furnace more? Shall we paint everything black after Halloween and then switch back to white after spring break?
Which means it will have to
May 29, 2009 - 14:52 ET by dscottWhich means it will have to be a special roof paint that changes color based on the temperature, you know like those cheapy aquarium color thermometers or taking your temp to see if you have a fever. That would be a clever product indeed but the cost of that product would probably be like photo grey glass, solar panels and wind generators, 5 to 10 times what the current technology delivers with payback periods that exceed their life expectancy.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Only 5% of the Land is Developed
May 29, 2009 - 19:48 ET by PaleoRobUm, why does this nitwit and anyone else who buys this not understand that 70% of the Earth is ocean and that the 30% of the Earth's surface that is land is actually really very incredibly sparsely covered with civilization. In America, only about 5% of the land is actually developed. You can paint every inch of it white or black or whatever you want. It will amount to absolutely nothing as far as the larger climate of the Earth is concerned. New Jersey is the most developed state in the union, and it is about 30% developed as of the turn of the century. 70% of the most heavily developed state is beautiful farmlands. (It really is called the Garden State for good reason, all joking about New Jersey aside.) Now, if the average is 5%, imagine how completely EMPTY large swaths of the country must be if Jersey is the max in the data set, and it isn't anything close to a mechanized asphalt and metal metropolis across its length and breadth--though you'd think the whole country was just shy of this state to hear a liberal, statist, green, control freak talk.
Paint stuff white. What a smack. What's next, reflective metal flakes in airplane contrails . . . :)
Next you're gonna say, "But it's the energy savings, not the reflected heat itself," but that's my point. We don't have a big enough footprint to alter the Earth's overall climate in any way. You can do whatever you want locally, and you can save energy doing what Bill says, but you won't be anything but a small particle in the tiny footprint that civilization is on the face of the Earth. A footprint incapable of changing the direction of global climate, which is probably run more by the sun and cosmic rays interplaying with the Earth's atmosphere at a macro level anyway--a level that is completely disconnected from your heating bill or that oil burning in your heater even across the span of your whole lifetime.
Painting white
May 30, 2009 - 03:25 ET by ChattychitoI had a customer in Virginia whom I helped to fix a 20 year problem. His roof leaked on his from porch deck. the biggest hurdle was we had to observe some very tight restrictions of the Historical district in which his home was located.
there was many things I had to restore but this roof as required was to look exactly as it did originally when the Historical district took over in 1990. and the owner had the unit then and had done nothing just suffered the problem ever since they bought it in 1987.
He had a window that for the most part of 20 years he had never opened because the wind that came in was hot from the roof that was located outside that window over the leaking deck. well to make a long story short we covered the area with a white membrane material with a 5mm coating of Elastomeric roof coating. after it was done. the owner opened the window and exclaimed, " in 20 years i have never opened this window because of the very hot air which comes in. but today as I opened it the coolest breeze flowed into my home. not only is the leak fixed but now I can have cool upstairs without running my Air con."
I got a bonus because of that genius work. But painting things white does in fact reduce heat refraction.
"A man who doesn't borrow from the brains of others proves he has no brains of his own." CH Spurgeon
Since we're "guilty" of
May 30, 2009 - 11:39 ET by rbosqueSince we're "guilty" of global warming, they can paint the top of their heads white.