At the top of Tuesday’s 2:00PM EST hour on MSNBC, co-anchors Contessa Brewer and Melissa Francis spoke with Reuters correspondent Jon Decker about a speech by Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele on the future of the GOP, with Brewer citing Democratic reaction: "Here's the Democratic National Committee's response to Steele: ‘The test of the sincerity of the Chairman's words will be if he and other GOP leaders stand up to the fringe elements of their party and whether they tell the polarizing faces of the past, including Cheney, Gingrich, and Limbaugh, to stand aside. Unfortunately, they have shown no willingness to do so.’"
In response to the DNC talking points, Decker argued that Steele would have to turn to moderate Republicans: "Michael Steele will have to recruit candidates that may not be the typical type of Republican that we've seen in the past few election cycles, the hard right social conservative Republicans. He's going to have to perhaps look to some moderate Republicans, some of the people who have left the party, who have been defeated over the past few election cycles, if he wants to try to be a majority party once again."
At that point, Francis wondered if the GOP should allow the more conservative members of the party to be "crushed" by Obama: "...but in some sense, doesn't it make sense to put a lot of the old faces out there right now? Because almost anybody is going to get crushed in the undertow of President Obama's popularity. So why not make the sacrificial lamb, you know, some of the people that, you know, are part of the old Republican Party, and just let them get crushed for now. Can you see that strategy at all?"
Here is the full transcript of the exchange:
2:04PM SEGMENT:
CONTESSA BREWER: The head of the Republican Party says the country needs the Republican Party now more than ever, though fewer Americans now want to identify themselves as Republican.
MELISSA FRANCIS: RNC Chair Michael Steele insists President Obama is hurting the country, not helping it, and because of that, the GOP has a responsibility to oppose the administration.
MICHAEL STEELE: You've heard the suggestion that if we oppose the President's policies, we are in some crazy way rooting against America's success. But we also know nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is, we would be abandoning our responsibility if we were to be silent while they spend our country into the abyss.
FRANCIS: Jon Decker is Washington correspondent for Reuters and he joins us live from the White House. Jon, does it seem like they're getting any traction with this argument, the Republicans?
JON DECKER: Well, we'll have to wait and see, but clearly what Michael Steele is trying to do is to regain the reins of the party. Right now the voice, the face of the Republican Party is Dick Cheney. It's Rush Limbaugh. It is not Michael Steele, and what the party is perceived as right now is a party of no. It's a party of no ideas, it's a party of saying just simply no to some of the ideas that are being put forth by President Obama. So what Michael Steele is trying to do right now is trying to regain the reins of the party, trying to show what the party stands for and hopefully trying to put together a majority that can do well in the midterm elections in just two years.
BREWER: We're showing the video right now of Rush Limbaugh when he was at CPAC this year. Here's the Democratic National Committee's response to Steele: 'The test of the sincerity of the Chairman's words will be if he and other GOP leaders stand up to the fringe elements of their party and whether they tell the polarizing faces of the past, including Cheney, Gingrich, and Limbaugh, to stand aside. Unfortunately, they have shown no willingness to do so.' But do you hear something different coming out of Michael Steele today? Did you hear him turning a corner in terms of his leadership?
DECKER: Well, I think that the words that he said indicated that perhaps there is trying to turn the page to some extent. He talked about putting away the playbook that Republicans have used over the past few decades and trying something new, and what that means is that Michael Steele will have to recruit candidates that may not be the typical type of Republican that we've seen in the past few election cycles, the hard right social conservative Republicans. He's going to have to perhaps look to some moderate Republicans, some of the people who have left the party, who have been defeated over the past few election cycles, if he wants to try to be a majority party once again.
FRANCIS: Hey Jon, but in some sense, doesn't it make sense to put a lot of the old faces out there right now? Because almost anybody is going to get crushed in the undertow of President Obama's popularity. So why not make the sacrificial lamb, you know, some of the people that, you know, are part of the old Republican Party, and just let them get crushed for now. Can you see that strategy at all?
DECKER: Well, what you hear from some Republicans right now is that there's something to be said for that, there's something for having people like Newt Gingrich, the former House Speaker, out there speaking for Republicans and speaking for Republican ideas and ideals. But in the same vein, you also want to have some people to be the future of the party, some people who will represent the party in just two years, four years from now, even beyond that, and so far we haven't seen those types of faces and voices emerge from the Republican Party since Barack Obama took office.
BREWER: Alright, Jon Decker from Reuters, thanks so much for joining us.
DECKER: Thanks a lot.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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What good does dishonest
May 19, 2009 - 15:47 ET by Chris NormanWhat good does dishonest analysis that amounts to wishful thinking do? It's of no use to anyone. Even if your audience are Democrats, lying to them serves no positive purpose - and Republicans sure aren't listening to them. MSNBC has isolated itself in a fantasy land.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Unfortunately, I disagree...
May 19, 2009 - 18:07 ET by CortillaenThat "moderate" Republicans are even a notable power in the party seems proof that entirely too many Reps listen to and act upon the "advice" of their enemies.
More of my thoughts
"With your mind as high as Mt. Fuji you can see all things clearly. And you can see all the forces that shape events; not just the things near to you." - Miyamoto Musashi
They don't see their
May 20, 2009 - 00:05 ET by mattmThey don't see their enemies as enemies, they see them as friends with whom they are merely having a debate.
They either don't realize they are up against people who don't believe in the founding principle of this country, or they are just sleazy politicians trying to hang onto their ego-stroking and lucrative gigs.
Gah...
May 19, 2009 - 15:52 ET by Mike SargentDo they just not get it? Newt Gingrich is the ringleader of the big-tent Republicans. He's anti-divisive as they come, and anyone with brain activity located in the region directly above their shoulders would get that instantly.
Stupid, stupid pundit. Soundbites are not a part of a balanced breakfast...
One minor problem
May 19, 2009 - 15:59 ET by Prester JohnBHO isn't running in 2010.
Given the way he and the Dem Congress are spending money we don't have, and the way he is apologizing his way around the world while showing that Bush was right on the GWOT, he may not be quite as popular in November 2010 as the MSM claims he is now.
Even with Reagan's popularity in 1984 and 1986 the GOP lost seats in Congress.
I would wager that there will be more than a few Blue Dog Dems who will be running away from BHO's spending and tax policies in order to get re-elected the next time around.
In 2008 BHO won a convincing victory over the MSM's moderate darling.
In 2012 a true conservative will do much, much better IMHO.
IIRC, the only president
May 19, 2009 - 17:33 ET by Lord ElicaniIIRC, the only president that bucked the losing of seats in a midterm was Dubya in '02.
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves
- Rush, "Witch Hunt"
What Decker means is they
May 19, 2009 - 16:03 ET by motherbeltWhat Decker means is they should run Republicans who are more like Democrats. In that case, who would that win over...people who are voting Democrat now?
Even if you're talking about "centrists"...who are the "centrist" Democrats that Republicans should be like?
Oh, wait...I forgot...all the Democrats are "centrists."
And don't you just love all these pundits who love to come up with strategies for the GOP?
I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson
Because of course, the evidence shows ...
May 19, 2009 - 16:14 ET by KC MulvilleThe evidence clearly points to the fact that what demolished the Republican Party was ... social issues, right?
"Here's the Democratic
May 19, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Dan The Man 2"Here's the Democratic National Committee's response to Steele:
Thats like saying "OK Christians and Jews here is Satan's response to your problem." And you know what Nov 2008 some bit into that line. Only a few realize it though.
MSNBC needs to take the...
May 19, 2009 - 16:05 ET by P. AaronMSNBC needs to take the Limbaugh Challenge: Do not mention Rush Limbaugh's name for 30 days and see if their ratings are improved at that time.
I for one am not going to
May 19, 2009 - 16:05 ET by ConservativeRexI for one am not going to worry about a cable network, or for that matter, a political party that has the attention span of a fruit fly.
No one of any importance watches MSNBC anyway. They and their parent network are the most Anti-American network in our broadcast history. In 2010 they will see how the cow ate the cabbage. I am not worried one bit.
Look how scared they are of Sarah Palin, how threatened they are of Ms. Prejean for God's sake. These snake oil salesman have the upper hand for now, but it won't last. People are seeing who the true gangsters are, and they've always, always been from Chicago. If these numbskulls are worried about these two young ladies, we own them.
Nah
May 19, 2009 - 19:12 ET by danebramageYou're giving 'em too much credit, Rex. They don't even have the upper hand right now.
Well
May 19, 2009 - 16:12 ET by shawn228The GOP got crushed by the dems in 06. Then again in 08. Its not just a opinion it is a fact that Obama got around double John McCAins electoral votes and lost more seats in the house and senate.
I don't know what the strategy should be in 2010, but hopefully the GOP can think of something except for waiting for the dems to fail
He had my vote
They should try being
May 19, 2009 - 16:26 ET by NL207They should try being conservative. If Bush had actually enforced the Mexican border, do you think that would have made a difference? I do. Simply keeping out one or two million illegal voters would have had an effect not to mention the example it would have set.
Obama is a chronic liar. He is making expansive promises he can never keep. Making nice with this Marxist is not the way to beat him. Making nice with Obama's media shills doesn't work either, as John McCain should have learned. In the end, the MSM is going to campaign for the most liberal candidate.
What might work is a strategy designed to attack the MSM's audience base. That might not win office the first time, but it will exact a price from the Media Players for their bias and ultimately defeat them.
Democrats know they're fighting a war...
May 19, 2009 - 19:52 ET by Tailgunner...and the GOP doesn't seem to realize that.
Every time Michael Steele, Lindsey Graham or some other RINO goes on these leftwing talk shows and makes nice with these classless liberal hacks I'm reminded of Obama listening meekly to Chavez' trashing of the US.
I'm reminded of Obama's video valentine to Ahmadinejad where the President of the United States of America was practically kissing the ass of a murdering dictator whose assistance in killing US troops alone justifies his assassination.
I'm reminded of Clinton going above and beyond the call of duty in further emasculating our intelligence capability while ignoring six separate al-Qaeda attacks killing hundreds of US citizens, servicemen and local national employees.
It's still a war even if only one side's fighting.
Instead of defending America's conservative values, the GOP seems to get caught up in seeking approval by apologizing for genuine conservatives...when they aren't actually joining in and ganging up on Rush, Palin, Cheney et al, that is.
Democrats are not our friends. They never have been and never will be our friends.
They see conservatives as the enemy, more so than even Islamic terrorists. That in itself should speak volumes.
Folks, you will never be part of the 'in' crowd. Just ask Arlen Specter. Seniority??? Right. They rolled him big-time.
The GOP needs to go on offensive and stay on offensive or they will never be anything more than Democratic speed bumps.
Obama is out of control and it's time for a GOP General Patton to go on the attack and take no prisoners.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
Advice from a Democrat
May 19, 2009 - 16:17 ET by allanfThe one thing the Republican's should never do is take advice from a liberal Democrat such as Contessa Brewer. Even if the advice were sincere, liberals have a knack for causing disasters.
But
May 19, 2009 - 21:48 ET by serfer62Allen
if they don't take advise from Big Media what will they do?
But
May 19, 2009 - 21:48 ET by serfer62Allen
if they don't take advise from Big Media what will they do?
So what defines these
May 19, 2009 - 16:21 ET by metaphorsbwithuSo what defines these right-wing "fringe" groups? Opposition to abortion? No, a majority of Americans seem to be pro-life. Gay Marriage? No, a majority of Americans, including the President, Secretary of State, and even John Edwards, believe a marriage should remain what it has always been - between a man and a woman. Cap and trade? No a majority of Anericans don't buy into Al Gore's schemes. Socialism and/or fascism? No, a majority of Americans don't trust Big Government no matter how "brotherly". Truth is, anyone who does not endorse liberal Democrats (like Colin Powell and John McCain did in the campaign last year) and their leftist agenda is a right-wing extremist and member of a "fringe" group. That said, it's heartwarming to realize how concerned these people are for the health of the Republican Party. metaphorsbwithu
If they hammer away that
May 19, 2009 - 16:42 ET by Chris NormanIf they hammer away that certain positions are "fringe", some people with weak convictions who don't want to be considered "fringe" might alter their views
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
You've nailed it. The
May 19, 2009 - 17:25 ET by metaphorsbwithuYou've nailed it.
The constant tactic of the left-wing has been to discredit everything that has been previously thought of as traditional and mainstream, to demonize anyone who stands up for the Constitution, mom, the flag, and yes, even apple pie.
When a Catholic priest can get arrested at a Catholic university protesting the killing of the innocent unborn, you have to wonder if they may have succeeded.
Good is bad. Up is down. Cold is hot. Their mantra has become, "Don't believe your lying eyes and ears."
It never ends.
metaphorsbwithu
meta...
May 19, 2009 - 18:35 ET by iveseenitallRight. The world is upside down. This is why I can't understand the RINO point of view. I saw a debate on Cavuto today. He abhors name-calling and wants us to simply stick to the issues. Must he be reminded that Barry and the libs WON by calling names and never addressing the issues head on? McCain was too busy wanting to be loved and took his eye off the prize.We need to get serious about WINNING and do whatever it takes to WIN. Duh!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
To heck with "prevent defense"
May 19, 2009 - 19:27 ET by metaphorsbwithuObama won because he sounded reasonable and his opponent incoherent.
While many on the internet and a few on talk radio were warning what Obama would do, the Republican Party tried to make the race about who you should trust to run big government.
Had the McCain campaign at least predicted what Obama would do, the crazy deficit spending, nationalization of industries, "hidden" tax increases for everyone, which so many of us did correctly, the Republican Party would at least have some credibility to say, "We told you so!"
As it is, they are stuck saying, "Okay, we learned our lesson. We can't be Democrat Lite. We'll do better next time."
They must build a "big tent" but not by watering down their standards, and only after getting their act together - and then inviting everyone who wishes to come inside.
There has to be a constant drumbeat of information to tell people what's going on and what the alternatives are, to challenge and ridicule the news media if necessary, and let the chips fall where they may.
Prevent defense may sometimes work in football, but only when you're ahead.
metaphorsbwithu
This is just so much
May 19, 2009 - 17:42 ET by RowaneThis is just so much bull$hit, if we'd had a reliable Conservative running in the last election we'd not have Obambi in the White House.
Rowane:
May 19, 2009 - 18:10 ET by iveseenitallSpot on. McCain and his RINO buddies lost the last election. I blame them for the present state of our nation almost as much as I do Barry himself (almost).The real fight for the Republicans is with the RINOS first, then the Socialists. As Emerson, over a hundred years ago, stated in his essay "Self-Reliance":
" Trust thyself: every heart vibrates to that string."
" Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the triumph of principles"
The RINOS are wrong. The RINOS LOST! Only when the Republicans go back to conservative principles will they win another election. DUH!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
After four years of Barack H. Stalin....
May 20, 2009 - 10:05 ET by Tailgunner...McCain's gonna look like Reagan by comparison.
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I think part of our problem with true conservatives is that we expect them to be simon-pure.
Meanwhile the Dems are perfectly willing to unite behind the most corrupt, dishonest, womanizing, slick-talking snake-oil salesman, and shred any and all campaign finance or any other election laws if they think he's electable.
Dems take advantage of our own standards. Let them expose anything on a conservative, no matter how harmless (hello, Trent Lott and Clarence Thomas) and let the MSM run with it for a week or two and 'moderate' Republicans will obligingly throw their target under the bus for them.
When Newt Gingrich resigned as House Speaker, Bob Livingston was next in line. But when an extramarital affair surfaced, Livingston stood down before even taking office. He was undoubtedly advised by fellow Republicans to do so.
(Compare their principled decisions with Pelosi's serial lies and slander of the CIA while Dems run interference and the MSM blames the GOP for her own dishonesty, echoes her false assertions that the CIA 'lies constantly' and calls for 'everyone' to 'move forward'.)
Since then the GOP as a unified party has faded into irrelevance.
At the same time, Democrats were defending a world-class lounge lizard who demonstrably lied to the entire world and under oath, routinely trashed women, had at least two extramarital affairs, and was later credibly accused of rape.
Dems defended Clinton to the point of arguing that oral sex 'was not sex' while the MSM claimed 'lying was good' and feminists immolated themselves publicly in support of his serial abuse of women and young, impressionable girls.
And of course let's not forget the execrable James Carville's infamous remark about 'dragging a hundred-dollar bill through a trailer park'.
Today's Democrats and the MSM will likewise defend Obama regardless of how dishonest, corrupt, reckless and tyrannical he is and will be in future.
This unity gets results for the Democrats, if not for the country.
In a rare bright spot for Republicans, Rudy Giuliani became the GOP mayor of NYC in a virtual one-party state and turned it from a bankrupt panhandler into a respected, more self-sufficient and much safer city.
He was far from perfect, personally and professionally but he was a respected, feared and effective leader.
Contrast Rudy with the oh-so-PC NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg who rivals Chavez with his blatant disregard for term limits.
While Bloomberg sent undercover investigators to 'sting' Virginia firearm dealers, his own city was driving out its own best and brightest...and richest...through astronomical taxation.
(Rush Limbaugh claims NYC taxed him $13,000 per day. If this exodus keeps up Mayor Bloomberg's going to become one of those NYC street-corner 'window washers' trying to keep his city from going bankrupt.)
There's got to be a middle ground between searching for a modern-day 'John the Baptist' and nominating the GOP equivalent of Clinton.
Until we stop looking for unattainable perfection, find that middle ground, and unite behind this candidate, we will always be in the minority and on the defensive. And our country will continue to suffer as a result.
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
X
May 19, 2009 - 22:06 ET by serfer62Yes Rawane
This oh so nice to the Kommiecrats sabotaged the GOP primaries in CA & NC for what? Just to smack the GOP? Now this old idiot and his lefty daughter want to change the GOP!
On the other hand if Gov Romney won would he be able to accomplish anything? Maybe, but he should would be better then what we have today.
For 2012 is it Palin - Romney or Romney - Palin?
Heck
May 19, 2009 - 22:48 ET by RowaneI'd take Huckabee over Obambi, and he was my Governor for years and I've seen the damage he can do.
I love how they constantly
May 19, 2009 - 18:09 ET by mattmI love how they constantly rip on Rush as being divisive, yet I doubt they would say that about the so-called comedienne who made a joke about hoping he would die.
I don't want to be a hater, but it's hard not to utterly loathe these people...I guess I'll just be a loather.
mattm... I'm with ya
May 19, 2009 - 18:17 ET by bigtimermattm...
I'm with ya there...loathing it is.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
mattm
May 19, 2009 - 18:17 ET by iveseenitallYes, not loathing the modern, ignorant "liberal" is almost impossible. Most of the time you have to ignore them just to stop from getting sick to your stomach. Sad.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
Why ANYONE on the right would give two %^&$%...
May 19, 2009 - 18:38 ET by Tailgunner...about what these lunatics think escapes me.
To me, the more they howl and b*tch the closer to our conservative principles we'll know we are.
Let's really give them something to scream about!
NOLO PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE
PMSNBC!
May 19, 2009 - 18:45 ET by blazermaniacLike people will actually believe what anyone says on PMSNBC! Just another couple of hacks, whom want to be on the Fox News Channel, but don't have the brains to make it there.
Jibberish
May 19, 2009 - 19:23 ET by slickwillie2001Look at this nutty paragraph: "He's going to have to perhaps look to some moderate Republicans, some of the people who have left the party, who have been defeated over the past few election cycles, if he wants to try to be a majority party once again."
If the moderates were defeated, how will running them again make the Republican Party a majority party? What will have changed?
But on the whole I am so touched by the way the liberals are offering all kinds of advice to Republicans on how to rebuild the party. They are being so kind and thoughtful.
Did any of those, "typical
May 19, 2009 - 20:16 ET by snaggletoothieDid any of those, "typical type of Republican that we've seen in the past few election cycles, the hard right social conservative Republicans," ever get elected? Because they're all MIA now. I don't think there are many Republicans in Congress that are not RINOs. While they are mostly voting against Obama's biggest mistakes they are mainly on the lookout for a chance to screw us and the economy with more earmarks.
Contessa or Lindsey
May 19, 2009 - 21:52 ET by zachlindI’ve read several times in gossip rags that Contessa Brewer is referred to as the Lindsey Lohan of NBC News by the staff. She certainly looks the part and given her partisan “reporting” I’m inclined to believe the story.
She's dumber than a box of rocks...
May 19, 2009 - 22:00 ET by bigtimerzach...
I don't know much about Lohan, when I see the reports about her I click it because I could care less, know what I mean, but I know one thing, I have watched Contessa from day one, and if Lohan can be called an empty-headed, leftist partisan twit with an agenda for her own fame and fortune...then she fits the bill.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
You're right
May 19, 2009 - 22:09 ET by zachlindI agree with you but I think what the articles were implying was that when she opens her mouth (not on the news show, but other shows) something comes out but no one’s been able to identify it yet. And apparently her life is not too well ordered either, like Lohan’s.
zach... Thanks...you
May 19, 2009 - 22:24 ET by bigtimerzach...
Thanks...you filled me in here...I gotcha.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Forget about Palin and Romney
May 20, 2009 - 12:42 ET by silent conservativeafter the last couple of weeks, I have this to say.
if you want to give liberals the sh!ts for years to come( and maybe some heart attacks too), we have only one choice
CHENEY/GINGRICH 2012