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Erica Hill, CBS During a 6-minute segment on the Saturday Early Show on CBS, co-host Erica Hill spoke with liberal journalists Mort Zuckerman, editor in chief of U.S. News and World Report, and Steven Kornacki of the New York Observer, about the future of the Republican Party. Republican strategist and CNN contributor Leslie Sanchez was also part of the panel discussion, but was only allowed 44 seconds to speak during the segment, frequently being cut off by Hill, Zuckerman, and Kornacki.

Zuckerman described the future of the GOP this way: "Obama's popularity is surging and the support for the Republican Party is declining, in part because if there is any symbol of the Republican Party, it was Bobby Jindal, the Governor of Louisiana, speaking after President Obama, and articulating a philosophy that was so completely discredited under the Bush administration that it's hard to imagine that they think they're going to do anything other than consolidate their support in a very small number of arch-conservative districts in the United States."

Kornacki shared a similar view, suggesting Republicans give up on conservative principles and simply follow Democratic Party ideals: "Republicans in Congress, the Republicans on talk radio, on Fox News, Republicans who are dominating the party and driving the philosophy of their party right now and they are denying reality...2008 was a revolt against the excesses of the Reagan philosophy, and the Republicans right now seem to be saying...'we got to click our shoes together three times, repeat our favorite Reagan catch phrase and poof, we're going to be good again.' It's not going to work. The public is looking for people who want government to take a leading, active, and aggressive role. Republicans aren't even speaking to that."

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Zuckerman responded to Kornacki by declaring: "The American people today say 'we think government is part of the solution.' It is the philosophy of the previous administration, that was the part of the problem." Kornacki added: "And nothing better symbolizes that than Bobby Jindal's statement on Tuesday night, or whenever it was, when he said, 'you know, government -- people say government solves problems but those of us who went through Katrina have our doubts.' The lesson the American people took from that, however, was not that government was the problem, that incompetent government administered by people who don't believe government has a role is the problem."

Sanchez attempted to counter those arguments: "But you know there's a -- I think that's simplifying it. This massive expansion of government is what people fear. They want efficient government. They want government that's going to make a difference." Kornacki replied: "Isn't this massive expansion of government Republicanesque?" Sanchez began to respond: "No, no, I-" but he cut her off: "$6 trillion in debt." Sanchez attempted to continue: "I think there's fault on either side, I don't think -- there's mud on both boots." She was then silenced by Hill, who gave Zuckerman the last word: "Mort, I want to end with a final thought from you."

Here is a full transcript of the segment:

9:00AM TEASE:

ERICA HILL: Budget bashing, the Republicans fighting the President's $3.5 trillion budget, but do they have a strategy to take on the popular president and win?

9:01AM TEASE:

HILL: We want to tell you about something new we are starting this week, a brand new segment called 'The Early Line' where we are going to take you behind the headlines of some of the best journalists, the best minds in this country, to take a look at the top issues and the top stories affecting you every day.

9:04AM SEGMENT:

ERICA HILL: Our new segment this morning is called 'The Early Line.' Every Saturday we're going to bring together a panel of experts to discuss the big news story of the week. And the topic this week, how does the Republican Party come back? To help us answer that question, Steve Kornacki is a political columnist for the New York Observer, Leslie Sanchez is a Republican strategist and CNN contributor, and the chairman and editor in chief of U.S. News and World Report Mort Zuckerman, who is also publisher of the New York Daily News. Good to have all of you with us in the studio this morning. Mort, I want to start with you on this question, it seems in some ways that the strategy of the Republican Party as of late has been to say no to President Obama. Is that an effective strategy that could work heading forward?

MORT ZUCKERMAN: I think they've had one of the least successful strategies of any party in our memory, because they've lost dramatically both houses of Congress, they lost the presidency, part of the largest vote, and Obama's popularity is surging and the support for the Republican Party is declining, in part because if there is any symbol of the Republican Party, is was Bobby Jindal, the Governor of Louisiana, speaking after President Obama, and articulating a philosophy that was so completely discredited under the Bush administration that it's hard to imagine that they think they're going to do anything other than consolidate their support in a very small number of arch-conservative districts in the United States.

HILL: Which obviously isn't going to be enough to just simply consolidate that support.

ZUCKERMAN: Absolutely not.

HILL: So Leslie, then, heading forward there's been a lot of talk, too, about Rush Limbaugh, is he sort of the new voice of the Republican Party and people can go back and forth on this all day. But heading forward as a party, what is your message going to be? How do you bring that back together and bring more people in?

LESLIE SANCHEZ: Well no, I think recovery begins where denial ends. There's no doubt about it. The Republican Party has become increasingly white, evangelical. I mean, if you saw the base of Senator McCain's support came from that constituency. Unless we broaden that in very much the way the Reagan coalition did, expand it to different things, other ethnic minorities, other suburbanites, we lost suburbanites and we lost people that had a bit of a higher education, we have to bring them back.

HILL: Mike Steele talked about that, talking about having sort of a hip-hop strategy, wanting to go after young Latino and African-American voters. Is there really a solid strategy in place, though, to say to these young folks, and to minorities, there is a place for you in what's known as the 'Grand Old White Party' to many people?

SANCHEZ: Well, it's not only about race, it's about solutions, it's looking at what the real role of government's going to be, but what are -- we're not talking about education, we're not talking about health care. Those tend to be issues that more centrists or moderates want to talk about. We're going to have to expand that and have solutions that look like good contrast to the Democrats.

HILL: Steven, it sounds all well and good, pointing out what needs to be done. You wrote this week that 'Republicans are their own worst enemy.' So then, how do you reverse course and become your own best supporter?

STEVE KORNACKI: Well, Leslie is honest. I mean, you acknowledge reality. And I am looking at Bobby Jindal this week, the Republicans in Congress, the Republicans on talk radio, on Fox News, Republicans who are dominating the party and driving the philosophy of their party right now and they are denying reality. Something profound happened in 2008, something as profound in 2008 as in 1980, when Ronald Reagan was elected. Ronald Reagan was elected by sort of channeling a public mood against government, government was too big, it was suffocating, government was the enemy. That drove a conservative revolution in this country. 2008, and it was years in the making, but 2008 was a revolt against the excesses of the Reagan philosophy, and the Republicans right now seem to be saying, I didn't hear this so much from Leslie, but I heard, I hear this from every single Republican in the U.S. House of Representatives, are basically saying 'we got to click our shoes together three times, repeat our favorite Reagan catch phrase and poof, we're going to be good again.' It's not going to work. The public is looking for people who want government to take a leading, active, and aggressive role. Republicans aren't even speaking to that.

SANCHEZ: Okay, I don't know-

ZUCKERMAN: What Reagan famously said was government is a part of the problem, not a part of the solution. The American people today say 'we think government is part of the solution.' It is the philosophy of the previous administration, that was the part of the problem.

KORNACKI: And nothing better symbolizes that than Bobby Jindal's statement on Tuesday night, or whenever it was, when he said, 'you know, government -- people say government solves problems but those of us who went through Katrina have our doubts.' The lesson the American people took from that, however, was not that government was the problem, that incompetent government administered by people who don't believe government has a role is the problem.

SANCHEZ: But you know there's a -- I think that's simplifying it. This massive expansion of government is what people fear. They want efficient government. They want government that's going to make a difference.

KORNACKI: Isn't this massive expansion of government Republicanesque?

SANCHEZ: No, no, I-

KORNACKI: $6 trillion in debt.

SANCHEZ: I think there's fault on either side, I don't think -- there's mud on both boots.

HILL: And the American people would likely agree that there is probably mud on both boots, especially these days. Mort, I want to end with a final thought from you. Because we're talking about Reagan and looking to the past, but the New York Times Sunday magazine, coming out tomorrow, actually has a huge cover story, a picture of Newt Gingrich, and in this article they say 'is the future of the Republican Party in the past?,' in looking at Newt Gingrich. Could he in some way be a savior for the party?

ZUCKERMAN: Well, If his ideas were beginning to be adopted by the Republican Party, yes. He's one of the most intelligent and thoughtful people in all of American politics and he really is trying to fashion a whole set of ideas, and principles, and politics, that address some of the issues we were talking about before in health care, in education, in the way government is involved in our lives, but nobody's paying that much attention to him, frankly. I think he's a brilliant man and I think he would be a vastly better leader, and would have been a vastly better speaker for the Republican Party, had he been the person who followed Barack Obama rather than Bobby Jindal.

HILL: Bobby Jindal is having a tough time for this one, taking a lot of flack for it. We have to leave it there, I'm sorry. But such a pleasure to have you all here and we look forward to having you back. Mort Zuckerman, Leslie Sanchez, Steve Kornacki, thanks again. Chris, back over to you.

CHRIS WRAGGE: Erica, thank you. Love the new segment.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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You have done your duty well Comrade.

The revolution will honor your sacrifice.

 

I will patiently wait here for Obama's secret police to come for me and drag me away.

If that wasn't some of the most blatant commie agiprop I've heard lately then I don't know what is.

Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.

When I want the truth, I don't go to these idiots.

KORNACKI: Isn't this massive expansion of government Republicanesque?

SANCHEZ: No, no, I-

KORNACKI: $6 trillion in debt.

When I want the truth, I go to American Thinker.

Myth.  Our national debt doubled in the last eight years.

 

Fact.  Nope, no matter how you measure it.  In fact, if adjusted for inflation, real economic growth and population growth, it didn't budge at all.

Here are the national debt figures in 2000 (President Clinton's last full year) and as currently estimated for 2008 (President Bush's last full year), as provided by our government.
                                                2000                2008                % Increase

Total Debt (dollars)                  $5,628.7B        $9,654.4B        72%

Held by Public ($)                    $3,409.8B        $5,428.6B        59%

Total Debt (%GDP)                 58.0%              67.5%              16%

Held by Public (%GDP)           35.1%              37.9%                8% 

Myth.  President Bush increased spending dramatically.  Specifically, he spent more than President Clinton did, dramatically increasing our national debt.

Fact.  Only if measured in nominal dollars.  But by that measure, or even in inflation-adjusted dollars, Clinton spent more than Bush 41, who spent more than Reagan, who spent more than Carter, on down the line.  Measured in a meaningful way, namely as a fraction of GDP, Bush spent less than the pre-Bush average, including that of President Clinton.  Similarly, he kept national debt below the pre-Bush average.

Here are the figures on federal spending  and federal debt held by the public, both as a percent of GDP.

                                                            Spending                      Debt

Pre-Bush average (1960-2000)            20.4%                          36.2%

Clinton average (1993-2000)                19.9%                          45.1%

Bush average (2001-2007)                   19.8%                          36.0%

Last year available (2007)                     20.0%                          36.8%

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/02/who_are_the_big_spenders.html 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF, you are obsolutely

JWF, you are obsolutely right.  And that is why the Republican party was run out of office. But, what the f**k replaced it is far worse - in spades.  We, conservatives, were appaled by the spendthrift ways of Bush, but this socialist sh*thead, bambi, is going to ruin our economy for a decade or more. 

The stock market is at 1996 levels today.  Anyone want to guess that we "land" at 1992 levels with the S&P at around 400?  It is under 700 and falling now!

Pardon the foul language above, but I am royally pissed regarding what is happening and what will happen if we continue down this road.  2010 elections will just not come soon enough.  

 

I read that last

I read that last week...it's very insightful. The numbers don't lie - but "liberals" do.

And unfortunately, many Republicans repeat the same nonsense of "reckless" spending over the last 8 years. While I do not dispute that there is entirely too much government waste, it was not the Republicans alone that contributed to those numbers. They had plenty of help from the Democrats and especially in the last two years when they are the ones who controlled Congress.

But one thing is clear: Republicans cannot be blamed for the exponential expansion of government and debt over the last six weeks. That is entirely owned by Obama and the Democrats.

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does..

that include the war numbers?  I was under the impression, and maybe I was misinformed, but I thought Bush was neglecting putting the war budget into the FY budget to reduce the impression of how much we were spending.

nice -- thanks for the info

These numbers puts things into some perspective.  I would add that the deficit spending under Bush was one of the areas that he deviated from conservative Republican principles -- and is partly to blame for his very low approval ratings toward the end of his presidency (his approval ratings were so low that there had to be conservatives rating him low, else they would've hovered closer to the 50% mark).  They can criticize him for not being more fiscally conservative, but then don't in the same breath recommend fiscal-liberalism as the remedy.

The mantra that the economic woes we are in now is the result of the 8-years of Bush needs to be debunked, and I'm dissappointed that Republicans haven't spoken loud and clear on this matter.  The housing bubble began inflating under liberal Clinton policies, prior to Bush.  Bush's culpability in the mess is that he didn't reign these policies in (but then again, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" may have been his philosophy).

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

he would have been skewered

and probably accused of being a bigot and a monster if he had done anything but forward the housing agenda.  At the beginning of his term he was pretty gung-ho about helping everyone get a house.  As his time in the Presidency progressed you can tell just by looking at the increasing number of memos regarding the FM twin disasters of Frannie and Freddie that he (or his staff) was starting to see bad things on the horizon.  But anyone who watched Raines, Waters and Frank in this video can understand as a Republican you had to be ready to take it in the chops if you wanted change.  Bush just wasn't that guy.

good point

And great video. Thanks for the link.

 

 

And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall.   -- Edgar Allan Poe

Zuckerman: "Obama's

Zuckerman: "Obama's popularity is surging..."

What cave his he been hiding out in for the last six weeks?

Having three lefties discussing the future of the GOP is like having three foxes sitting around discussing the future of the hens in the hen house.

-Dave

Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.

TYPO. Shoud have read: The

TYPO. Shoud have read: The MEDIA is looking for people who want government to take a leading, active, and aggressive role.

"Obama's popularity is

"Obama's popularity is surging . . ."  Yeah, I can tell that just by looking at the stock market.  Since, the beginning of the year, the DOW is off 23% and falling.  The financials, as measured by the XLF, is down over 44%.  Yeah, bambi, the first stupid liberal, is gaining in popularity every day.  Sure, you got it.

Meanwhile, I can make money if the stock market is going down - only faster - then when the market is going up.  As an American, I would prefer to see it go up, but down is good too!  And, baby, this market is rocketing down, down, down.

What I feel sorry for is all the suckers . . . er . . . investors that still have their money in buy and hold mutual funds that are down over 50% in this bear market without end.

Yeah, nationalize the financial and car industries and instill even greater government control of the health care industry.  It is all good  - for a short trade!!!

jdhawk, you took the words right out of my mouth!

Unbelieveable, isn't it? These pathetic excuses for "journalists" having consumed so much Osama Bama kool-aid they're plain stupid drunk!

Everything I am reading is that discontent with his tax hikes and porkulus package is now on both sides of the aisle. But these left-coast, bleeding-heart, 'do as I say, not as I do' network talking heads are living in a fantasy world right now if they believe that this president is just slightly below the Messiah.

Oh yeah - how did you like the passive application of the "fairness doctrine" in this discussion - one conservative, three liberals! Good job, CBS! That's what America likes to see - real balance - yeah, right.

Who am us, anyway? - Firesign Theatre

It sounds, to me, like CBS

It sounds, to me, like CBS has a bunch of Incompetents trying to discuss matters that they don't comprehend. But of course, this is nothing new.

If you want to learn about what's really happening and put it in the proper perspective, just get your daily rations from Rational Liberty. You could watch CBS all year and not learn half as much as you can at RationalLiberty.com - and NewsBusters - in just one day. 

(Sorry for the shameless plug Mr. Drennen.)

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I feel all warm and fuzzy

knowing the LEFT are worried about the Republican Party.

nuff said

Have been a lurker here for

Have been a lurker here for quite some time.  First post.  Believe we are united by a real and growing concern for our country, particularly when the media is so over-the-top biased for a single political party.  We see it here every day when the MSM is attacking conservative values at every opportunity even when they have to make up negative stories and ignore the obvious criminality of their chosen party. 

Having served in the military for nearly 27 years when we were working to defeat communism it is a real shock to see the MSM and liberals running headlong to communism, our country be damned.  When did the country decide to go communist?  Socialist is too mild of a term for these liberal traitors!  They hate America and it shows!

 I've witnessed the devastation of the human spirit caused by communism and totalitarian regimes--it's not pretty.  It's a shame liberals crave power so much they could care less about their impact on people and are gleefully taking us down a very evil road.  God bless us all--we're going to need it with the communists in charge. 

 

srqvet,

Welcome and thank you for your service. If there may be some good news it is that I don't believe we are dealing with true believers in the same vein as Mao, Lenin, etc... but instead with egotistical men and women who continue to believe they know best for everyone. When their egos get bruised and thier vanity starts to get in the way of their mission I hope they will change course for the better.

See, 'Hope and Change'.

O ne
B ig
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M istake
A merica

A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections

Agnostic

Thanks, it was an honor to serve!  "Hope" you are right, but they sure are acting like true believers more and more every day.

 Unfortunately the communist tactic of the "big lie" seems to be working so far.  Of course, a compliant and supportive media is required for it to work and the liberals have it in spades.

military support

The final piece that the current crop of communist/socialist/fascist need is military support and it I don't think they will gain that in the next four years. Without Pres. Obama's civilian corpse I don't think they have what it takes to push us completely over the edge. I just hope there is enough left when all the spending is done to push us back in the right direction.

A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections

get em while they're hot!

O.B.A.M.A.  We would SO get our car keyed if we put this on here in Washington lol.

Welcome aboard

Welcome aboard SRQVET.

This discussion is nothing new.

Has anyone seen where Obama has offered to yank the missles out of the border states of the old Soviet Union around Iraq if Putin will talk to him?

Anyone remember the Salt Treaties that Carter signed and the Soviets broke even before they signed the treaties?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you."

Communism

Obama sent Russia a letter, and it wasn't well

received.  The answer is "no bartering".   Obama

insists diplomacy by talking is all that is needed

to attain peace.   Guess he's barking up the wrong

tree already., and Hillary's stirring up more dissent

with Israel.  What a wonderful group we have in

office.  Be afraid, be very afraid.

Multi-Party System the Problem

The propagandist media view our multi-party political system as a problem and are doing whatever it takes to get us to a single party system.  I said this during the presidential primaries when the propagandist media gave coverage of the Dems over Repubs nearly 4 to 1.  

The Republican party is struggling at the moment to find itself and the propagandist media have no problem kicking them in the teeth while they're down.  The propagandist media will not be satisfied until Republicans are eliminated, we have a one party country, and Hugo Chavez is our greatest ally.  This is why Republicans and conservatives cannot coddle the propagandist media.  Do not let them get away with setting the agenda and making false premises. They need to be challenged in every interview.

srqvet, Welcome!

Welcome!  Glad to see you are now posting.

..de opresso liber.. 

Long live the Republic!  Conservatives unite!

srqvet, Welcome...good to

srqvet,

Welcome...good to hear from you. Thank you for your service. Your comments are spot on, thanks.

And that's all we need, liberal puppet...

  "...consolidate their support in a very small number of arch-conservative districts in the United States."

Listen, Jesus had 12 guys and He changed the world.  So we might be reduced, (you wish), to a small number, hopelessly outmanned by you liberal socialists.  Big deal.  One person speaking the truth is 100 times louder than 1000 folks blabbering lies.

If the Republicans will return to their ideals, I will gladly throw my lot in with them.

 

Long live the Republic!  Conservatives unite!

The downfall is coming

I personally know at last 6-8 people that voted for                    One Big Ass Mistake America that are saying this is not what we voted for. I just laugh and tell them yes it is. I think the poll numbers are gonna start tanking for that one soon.

A Lot of 401k Plans Have Vanished

Clearly the market has no confidence in the new administration.  A lot of Americans are seeing their 401k plans vanish under Obama's "stimulus" plan.  Obama is already sinking in the polls.  Rasmussen has him down from where he was a month ago.  His unfavorable ratings have gone up significantly.

Don't worry, even if Obama's poll numbers drop to low levels the propagandist media will find a way to not talk about it and even declare him a success. They're not interested in the truth, just their ideology and their party.  That's why I call them the propagandist media.

I picture this

I picture this conversation taking place on a dias in a dark room with a grate in the floor and conservatives being thrown to alligators for some reason.  Not sure why.

Say there Kornacki.....

"Republicans in Congress, the Republicans on talk radio, on Fox News,
Republicans who are dominating the party and driving the philosophy of
their party right now and they are denying reality..

The reality is that true conservatives are awaking from their slumber and will throw RINO's under the same Train as the "surging" Obamabots. Also interesting that no mention of any conservative voices from any network other than Fox.

 

Pssssst <whispers> Emperor Barry isn't wearing any clothes!

Now would be the time

that a good republican (conservative would be better - IF one can be found) congressman/senator, to speak out and say, that the future of liberal journalists will be bleak when the people get their power back. Yes, we the people, should be demanding that government works for US.

Residing in a very blue state, the Blue Garden State, my cowardly senators actually bragged that the recently passed stim bill was not even read, before passage, and that was a good thing! Fortunately, my head stopped hurting, once I stopped trying to make the wall softer, but these are the people we have running our policies - in one word, IDIOTS, and the sheep that follow, just encourage them, but as we, and they, shall learn, this too will pass - Wait till OUR next president says, "I won, and it'll be done MY way", then the screams will be loud and shrill - [if only]

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Steyn on Steele

Mark Steyn on Michael Steele: Rush to Judgement: http://corner.nation...

Right on as usual.

Steyn's the best...link

Steyn's the best...link saved, he summed it up well...as usual.

I love it when the libs on

I love it when the libs on the msm think they have us all figured out. A panel of idiots!