While discussing Rush Limbaugh’s opposition to the Obama administration’s massive spending bill on Thursday’s CBS Early Show, co-host Maggie Rodriguez asked author Ann Coulter: "But don't you think that right now is not -- it behooves the Republicans to be a little bit more in the middle? I mean, what are -- they're not -- their voices aren't going to be heard anyway, as we saw with this economic stimulus plan...So doesn't it behoove them to be more bipartisan and meet in the middle?" Coulter did not feel "behooved": "I think it's just the reverse. I mean, we just ran John McCain, we are so sick of being in the middle."
The segment actually began with co-host Harry Smith trying to offer a fair assessment of Limbaugh’s comments about wanting President Obama to "fail": "I think if you listen to what Rush Limbaugh has said, 'I want him to fail,' he wants big government to fail...He wants certain things that are especially involved in this stimulus package to fail. I don't think he's sitting there saying 'as an American citizen, I want the presidency and the country to fail.’" Coulter agreed: "That's exactly right. In fact, I put it sort of the reverse way. I said, yes, of course, I want him to succeed, but that means he'll govern as a conservative...I sort of admire Rush's verve for switching it around that way." However, co-host Julie Chen wondered: "Oh, you admire that he put it that way? Don't you think it's a little bit irresponsible for him to put it that way?"
Later, Smith’s sense of fairness disappeared: "How interesting is it, though, that there's a guy on the radio who has an audience of some millions of people, you have one Republican congressman who said 'well, it's easy for Sean Hannity, it's easy for Rush Limbaugh, to throw stones. It's harder if you're in the Congress.' He goes back on his hands and knees and apologizes a day later, 'Rush, please forgive me! I knew not what I was doing!' This is crazy. I mean, that's the voice, that's the fringes. Right?"
Rodriguez went on to challenge Coulter’s opposition to the Democrats’ so-called "stimulus" plan: "Let me ask you something, if this economic stimulus plan works like Nancy Pelosi and President Obama think it will, will you eat humble pie? Will you say ‘I was wrong and they were right?’"Coulter replied: "No, I would, but it's – it never works, it's not going to work this time." Rodriguez concluded: "But you said you would if it does?"
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
7:00AM TEASE:
HARRY SMITH: Lots to talk about this morning, including the war of words that seems to be erupting between the White House and Rush Limbaugh. We will look into that in just a little bit.
7:13AM TEASE:
SMITH: Also ahead, President Obama versus Rush Limbaugh. We'll see what conservative author Ann Coulter thinks about the brewing battle.
7:30AM TEASE:
HARRY SMITH: So if you're the President of the United States, should you say, 'don't listen to Rush Limbaugh, go ahead and help me pass my-'
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: That sounds more like Rush Limbaugh than the president, that impersonation.
SMITH: 'Don't listen to him because I'm trying to pass my economic stimulus plan.' And if you're Rush Limbaugh and this mood in the country where things are so difficult, should you go ahead and say 'I'm not sure I want the president to succeed, I want to see him-'
JULIE CHEN: No, he said he wants to see him fail.
SMITH: Well, it's more nuanced than that. And speaking of nuance, who better than -- to help us delve into the world of nuance -- than Ann Coulter. And she is here and we're going to have that conversation here in just a couple of seconds.
7:31AM SEGMENT:
HARRY SMITH: While President Obama and Republicans in Congress are trying to be gracious toward each other, an ideological battle has broken out between the president and conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh. Democrats have launched an online petition in response to Rush Limbaugh's comments that he hopes Obama will fail in his presidency.
RUSH LIMBAUGH: We want to promote failure. We want to promote incompetence. We want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago.
SMITH: President Obama told congressional leaders at the White House on Friday that, quote, 'you can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done.' After a glib comment by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, Limbaugh suggested that Mr. Obama is more frightened of him than he is of Republican leaders. Saying, quote, 'which doesn't say much about our party.'
LIMBAUGH: What is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it?
SMITH: And we are joined by conservative columnist Ann Coulter, author of 'Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America.' So this conversation is going on, it's very interesting, because if you take things out of context, I think if you listen to what Rush Limbaugh has said, 'I want him to fail,' he wants big government to fail.
ANN COULTER: Right.
SMITH: He wants certain things that are especially involved in this stimulus package to fail. I don't think he's sitting there saying 'as an American citizen, I want the presidency and the country to fail.'
COULTER: Right.
SMITH: He wants these things to fail. Do I have that right?
COULTER: That's exactly right. In fact, I put it sort of the reverse way. I said, yes, of course, I want him to succeed, but that means he'll govern as a conservative.'
JULIE CHEN: So what do you think of him-
COULTER: I sort of admire Rush's verve for switching it around that way.
CHEN: Oh, you admire that he put it that way? Don't you think it's a little bit irresponsible for him to put it that way? I mean, the way you put it, seems much-
COULTER: It's basically the same thing. His makes me laugh more.
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: So you like that one? But don't you think that right now is not -- it behooves the Republicans to be a little bit more in the middle? I mean, what are -- they're not -- their voices aren't going to be heard anyway, as we saw with this economic stimulus plan. Even if they want something, if the Democrats want something else, that's what's going to happen. So doesn't it behoove them to be more bipartisan and meet in the middle?
COULTER: I think it's just the reverse. I mean, we just ran John McCain, we are so sick of being in the middle. And the other thing is, when you govern, you do have to -- Republicans had to accede to demands of their president, George Bush, like the huge prescription drug program, they weren't very happy with the amnesty bill. So, you know, we've already -- or they, as politicians, have had to compromise and engage in horse trading. Now we can be principled.
RODRIGUEZ: But how are they going to have a voice in this administration?
COULTER: Well, I think they will have a voice. I mean, they already got, it's a tiny little piece of the bill, but they did get the birth control or the family planning -- I bet you the STD programs are going to be cut soon, too. And the main thing is that we go back to being the party of ideas, and we stand for something, and people, you know, we can make the principled arguments. Now I say 'we,' I'm not a politician, but I feel sorry for Republican politicians having to be compromising for the past eight years.
SMITH: How interesting is it, though, that there's a guy on the radio who has an audience of some millions of people, you have one Republican congressman who said 'well, it's easy for Sean Hannity, it's easy for Rush Limbaugh, to throw stones. It's harder if you're in the Congress.' He goes back on his hands and knees and apologizes a day later, 'Rush, please forgive me! I knew not what I was doing!' This is crazy. I mean, that's the voice, that's the fringes. Right?
RODRIGUEZ: That's the power.
COULTER: Well, I think -- I mean, we do have different roles, conservative spokes people and politicians. Like I say, politicians, you know, they do have to be diplomatic. I wouldn't want to be a politician. Rush Limbaugh wouldn't want to be a politician.
CHEN: Well, that's my question to you. If you feel so passionately about your beliefs and you make good money through books, why don't you run for office and try and spark change that way?
COULTER: It's a very different job, and I wouldn't like it and don't think I'd be good at it. I mean, just to take two examples from President Bush, immediately after the attack of 9/11, Bush is all over saying, 'Islam is a religion of peace.' He's inviting all these Muslims over for Ramadan. It's all -- he's attending, you know, Mosques. I didn't have to do that. When they have the unveiling of the Clinton presidential portrait, Bush has to say nice things about Bill Clinton. I didn't have to do that.
RODRIGUEZ: You couldn't do that.
COULTER: I couldn't do that. But I understand why a president has to and you -- that is what a politician does. So we do have different roles. And actually, I think it was kind of dopey for the Congressman not to realize that and to bother making that point. But the strangest thing is having the president attack Rush Limbaugh.
SMITH: Here's-
RODRIGUEZ: Let me ask you something, if this economic stimulus plan works like Nancy Pelosi and President Obama think it will, will you eat humble pie? Will you say 'I was wrong and they were right?'
COULTER: Well, there's no way-
SMITH: Probably not.
COULTER: -it can work. No, I would, but it's-
SMITH: Here's my question, though, is it-
COULTER: -it never works, it's not going to work this time.
SMITH: Might this-
RODRIGUEZ: But you said you would if it does?
COULTER: Sure, well, we're going to be out of the recession by the end of the year if the government does nothing. I think this is going to delay -- it's a little hard to prove that, but big government, it doesn't work in Cuba. It hasn't worked anyplace. It's not going to work.
SMITH: Here's my contention. I think that maybe Republicans by -- they're being put in -- they, by their own ax and by what's happened in the election, their -- this is their time in the wilderness, and perhaps this is where they actually find out who they are as opposed to what they've been over the last ten years or so.
COULTER: Yeah, I mean, I think we have a pretty good idea of what that is, but like I say, now you don't have to make compromises. Now you don't have to build majorities. You can go back to first principles. I mean, as Reagan showed, that is popular with Americans.
CHEN: If the final seconds, what is your role, then? You say we all have roles. What's your role?
COULTER: Gin up the troops, prepare the troops for battle.
RODRIGUEZ: And gear up for President Palin, right, in your ideal world?
COULTER: Perhaps.
RODRIGUEZ: Alright.
SMITH: Ann Coulter, thanks for stopping by.
COULTER: Thank you.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Ann Coulter. Thank
January 29, 2009 - 13:09 ET by bigtimerAnn Coulter.
Thank YOU!
You spoke for millions of us out here....millions.
Just as Rush and others have.
For me, this was my favorite response she gave...
So doesn't it behoove them to be more bipartisan and meet in the middle?" Coulter did not feel "behooved": "I think it's just the reverse. I mean, we just ran John McCain, we are so sick of being in the middle
...we are so sick of being in the middle.
January 29, 2009 - 13:11 ET by vrwc13...we are so sick of being in the middle.
Thanks Ann. The more we move to the center, the more the "center" moves to the left, and the left moves to even more liberalism/socialism/communism....and you alll know where that gets us.
v
Armey/Legg 2012
indeed
January 29, 2009 - 13:21 ET by katainkenteverytime concessions are made and conservatives move to the centerline - they MOVE THE LINE!
"part of what I'm hoping to introduce as the next president is a new ethic of [government enforced] responsibility" - B. Obama
they MOVE THE LINE!
January 29, 2009 - 13:41 ET by vrwc13they MOVE THE LINE!
they MOVE THE LINE!
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Armey/Legg 2012
Arrgh!
January 29, 2009 - 13:13 ET by MichelleC...their voices aren't going to be heard anyway
Oh so, Maggie, in your humble opinion the Republicans should just bend over and take it because nothing they do is going to matter? Is that what the Democrats did the last eight years? Hmmm, I think not.
And kudos to Ann (again) for sticking up for the right. We don't want to be in the middle. If we wanted to be in the middle, we'd be moderates.
Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan
Michelle, I was thinking
January 29, 2009 - 15:15 ET by motherbeltMichelle, I was thinking along the same lines, then I got a little further on and my head exploded.
RODRIGUEZ: But how are they going to have a voice in this administration?
First she says their voices aren't going to be heard unless they toe the Democrat line; then she says they should do that, just to "have a voice" in this administration.
Sorry, Maggie, "bipartisanship" is only important to the Dems right now, because they know this bill is a turkey, and they want to share the blame. Why should the Republicans help them out?
They are smart to distance themselves from this bomb; I hope the Senate Repubs do the same.
their voices aren't going to be heard anyway
January 29, 2009 - 16:57 ET by kgThis is the understatement of the this new administration.
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Yeah, sure Harriet and
January 29, 2009 - 13:15 ET by SickofLibsYeah, sure Harriet and ChiChi... since no none is listening anyway, Republicans should just go off into the woods and try to find themselves. Or maybe go to India and hookup with a Maharishi.
You're going to be choking on your own bile inside of a year, mark my words. THEN we'll come out of the woods.
"Let me ask you something,
January 29, 2009 - 13:26 ET by fitzfong"Let me ask you something, if this economic stimulus plan works like Nancy Pelosi and President Obama think it will, will you eat humble pie? Will you say ‘I was wrong and they were right?’"
A better question, Maggie, is if Pelosi and Obama think this "stimulus" plan will work, why are they seeking cover from the Republican Party? They have enough votes to shove this piece of crap down our throats, why can't they just do it without trying to taint some Republicans with it?
And it's nice to see that Julie Chen still rolls out of bed with the boss each morning in enough time to make it to work.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Wonder why the Democrats
January 29, 2009 - 13:26 ET by katiejanenever seem to think that THEY should move to the middle? Even though Obama did win the election a significant number of voters did not support him, perhaps because they thought him too far left. Are all those voters supposed to now fall in line and pretend they didn't have any other opinions?
If Rodriguez is correct and "their voices aren't going to be heard anyway" why should the Right budge at all?
Ann Coulter: American hero
January 29, 2009 - 13:29 ET by cocodrieA hero is someone who accomp;ishes the necessary against extreme odds without flinching. Ann is an intelectual hero. She consistantly goes against the keft-wing extremists on their own turf.
She is absolutelt correct about being in the middle. Being in the middle requires a threesome. Try bringing a woman home with you and tell your wife you want to be in the middle when you go to bed.
Jesus Loves You
Middle?
January 29, 2009 - 13:38 ET by jdubyaIt's not that the Republicans need to move to the middle. It's that the Liberal moonbats need to move to Cuba or Venezuela.
We as conservatives will
January 29, 2009 - 13:46 ET by TexasteacherWe as conservatives will not bow to this little whiny b**** of a president. Bi-partisanship is not bowing down to a dictator, it is COMPROMISE. Just because "he won" doesn't make him God. If that is the case, then explain their actions the past 8 years.
Our voices aren't going to be heard?? Our voices HAVE been heard and it scares that obama pansy to death. Just like his illinois senate race, he has to underhandedly remove all opposition before he can be MARGINALLY successful. If anyone says anything that isn't a campaign chant he has to run and cry in front of a camera (with teleprompter of course). he has to have his attack dog rahm tell the media everyday what to broadcast as truth and what to attack. These little trolls on NB are probably their underlings sent to attack dissent and thow a fit whenever the truth about their savior comes to light.
I am very sick and tired of dumba** liberal gasbags telling us what we should believe:
"Just give up. Just roll over and take it. You have no voice. You have no chance. Resistance is futile. Yes we can. Hope and Change. HEIL OBAMA!"
I'm sorry, I'd rather not put my hope and faith in a career politician that can't tell the difference between a door and a window.
obama's notion of bi-partisanship is telling conservatives to shut up and do what he wants.
This is a no brainer.
January 29, 2009 - 13:57 ET by cruiserI wish Obama and all of his relatives and friends good health for many years to come. However, I also hope he fails in implementing the policies that he campaigned on. If I wanted him to succeed, I would have voted for him. I didn't, so why should I change my mind now on my core beliefs.
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read . ------ Groucho Marx
Ann...
January 29, 2009 - 13:57 ET by AgentAmericanShould have picked up that table and threw it aside...
..."you wanna get nuts? C'mon! Let's get nuts"
She would have been nominated for 2012 already!
2010: A GOP Hill
Rabbit to Rodriguez
January 29, 2009 - 13:58 ET by Trix RabbitLet me ask YOU something. When this economic stimulus pork plan fails, and it WILL fail miserably, will you eat humble pie? Would you be willing to chow down on the big fat turd burger that will be handed to you on an unwashed plate for believing this socialist nonsense? Will you say 'I was wrong and they were right?'
I think not. The Obamatrons will always suffer from cognitive dissonance.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Shows you the bizarro world
January 29, 2009 - 14:01 ET by celatorShows you the bizarro world Old Media types and the liberals inhabit. Clueless about Americans.
Ann is a hero, no doubt about that. My gripe is that so-called Republicans ought to be right there with her to explain, defend, illuminate and argue their political principals. But they aren't, and haven't been. That's why Republicans are in the dumper. Pathetic.
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
Sounds like Harry Smith was a lot more respectful to Coulter
January 29, 2009 - 14:11 ET by Dee Bunkthis time.
I didn't see this one, but from reading the transcripts, it sounds like he was actually respectful of her this time.
Dee,
January 29, 2009 - 18:32 ET by R D HelmLOL-If you were Harry Smith, and Ann had eaten your lunch once before, you'd probably be a little more respectful, too.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
Female Media Pelosi Supporters
January 29, 2009 - 14:32 ET by JDWHow do these women feel about Pelosi's desire to eliminate child birth?
Imagine this, 'Hasselbeck's knocked-up'. Front page URL NY Daily gossip.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
Whatever else you think, your mother and my mother are both mothers
'Knocked up' - very classy
January 29, 2009 - 15:08 ET by SickofLibsYeah, Hasselbeck is not a 'real' woman.
She's dissing 'women's health issues' by giving birth. What a jerk.
rodriguez and chen
January 29, 2009 - 14:47 ET by east tennessee johnYou mean they actually pay these people to spew this garbage? Can either go back and produce the tapes or news articles almost demanding support for Bush when he came into office? You mean they don't exist??Where are the calls for the demoncrats to "move to the center" when Bush came to office, to unite behind him after such a contentious election??? You mean they don't exist? Our guy won so you have to quit trying to make him look bad, how juvenile can supposed learned "journalists" be? Conservatives have no say, all we can do is protest loud enough to wake up the indifferent to maybe save some sembalance of the pre-"workers' paradise" that's coming. Ladies checkout what that means. It will require research and reading, if you got the time.
These talking news heads
January 29, 2009 - 14:46 ET by ConservativeRexThese talking news heads are ridiculous. I know why Ann goes on their shows, because intellectually it is a massive mis-match.
I like the way Ann toys with them, she really has the ability to quietly point out what fools they are. All the time with a smile on her face.
Notice the poke at Gov Palin? They really are scared of her. They should be.
Myrmidons
January 29, 2009 - 15:13 ET by Lakewood BobIt is so typical of the networks to hire intellectually shallow myrmidons of the socialist left like Rodriquez, Chen, and Smith. They look at what Ann and Rush say as revolutionary acts. But as George Orwell recognized, "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." Ann and Rush speak the truth which is why the left objects so much!
Maggie was just setting up
January 29, 2009 - 15:55 ET by midnight cowboyMaggie was just setting up Ann with the humble pie proposition. Ann's response should have been, Yea, I'll eat humble pie as long as when the economy tanks even further due to this boondoggle of a bill, you guys in the media don't report a 10% unemployment, a 12% inflation rate, and 20% interst rates as a booming economy as long as B. Hussein Obama in the white house.
Harry,
January 29, 2009 - 15:56 ET by NorthCoasterWhen you read Rep. Gingrey's comment, he is pointing out that when you are responsible for enacting legislation you have to have actionable answers. Pundits like you, Harry, and Rush, are able to throw stones at an idea without necessarily having alternative solutions available.
Have you noticed Harry, that Rush has suggested a bi-partisan alternative to the 800 billion bailout bill, the divides the money at 54% for the Dems and 46% for the Republicans? This was the percentage of voters in the last presidential election. I think this was a simple suggestion for arriving at a bi-partisan solution.
Harry, do you have an alternative solution to suggest that is in the spirit of bi-partisanship?
typical questioning?
January 29, 2009 - 16:10 ET by rubberpelletfrancisI dont watch the network morning shows, but do they always gang up 3 to 1 on their guest? Probably says a lot about facing an intellectual superior when your one of those lightweight hosts. All three with notebooks also...think on your feet much?
rpf... Funny how she can
January 29, 2009 - 16:20 ET by bigtimerrpf...
Funny how she can more than hold her own, without a notebook on her lap...eh?
Imagine that... heck, more than half the time she is very lucky she gets a whole paragraph in without being interrupted, let alone a sentence.
She's the best...the left can't handle the truth.
You gotta love Ann...
January 29, 2009 - 17:37 ET by jawebster1Coulter, unless you are a liberal, that is. Ann gets to the truth in a shorter and straighter line than any other person I can of besides Mark Levin. She and Mark are the hammers, Rush and Laura are the sabres. We need and appreciate both...and Sean Hannity too. Jim Webster
awww, isn't that cute?
January 29, 2009 - 18:05 ET by JnobleJulie Chen thinks she's being tough by getting uppity with mean ol' Ann Coulter.
Go back to looking pretty and smiling at the camera sweetie and leave the politics and brain work to the pros.
Attack Media
January 29, 2009 - 23:31 ET by TN MomThis is crazy. I mean, that's the voice, that's the fringes. Right? -CBS's Harry Smith
Which voice on the fringes do the Democrats listen to?
MoveOn.org? Soros? HuffPost? Labor Unions? Hollywood?
Attack MSM Media needs an extra cup of coffee if they want to fool America.