Appearing on Tuesday’s CBS Early Show, author Ann Coulter promoted her new book, ‘Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America’ by demonstrating how co-host Harry Smith contributed to liberal victimhood when he asked Ted Kennedy about the possibility of an Obama assassination in a January 29, 2008 interview: "...everyone talking about as if Obama is at some unique risk for assassination...you kept saying things like I am thinking of a word and it begins with the letter 'A.' And Teddy Kennedy was refusing to understand what you were saying..."
NewBusters’ Mark Finkelstein first reported Smith’s exchange with Kennedy. Smith asked the Massachusetts Senator: "...sometimes agents of change end up being targets, as you well know, and that was why I was asking if you were at all fearful of that." In her book, Coulter remarked on Smith’s interview: "Kennedy may be a drunken slob, but unlike CBS News anchors, he is not certifiably insane."
During the Tuesday exchange with Coulter, Smith defended asking the question: "A friend of mine who's a liberal -- who was a liberal talk show host in Denver was gunned down in his front yard. He was assassinated. I stood in front of the Murrah Federal Building. I have looked hate in the eye. I know that there are people in this country who would be interested in the death of not only Barack Obama but any president. That was a legitimate question to ask Ted Kennedy." Smith then asked Coulter: "You don't think as an African-American, that he was at some greater risk?"
In response, Coulter pointed out: "I promise you George Bush is at greater risk. He has been physically attacked two weeks ago. There's a book fantasizing about George Bush's assassination. There's a movie -- a documentary fantasizing about George Bush's assassination....So maybe we can stop talking about the threat of right-wing violence in a country that is teeming with left-wing violence."
Later, Smith challenged the idea of liberals promoting victimhood and instead accused Coulter of acting like a victim herself: "You talk about victims and victimhood in America, which I think is a serious problem. On the other hand, the more I listen to your complaints, the more I kept thinking, well, you're the whiner. You're the one who's claiming victimhood here. That you're the victim o this great left-wing conspiracy...if there was a real live left-wing conspiracy, how do you account for a Republican president being elected and then realizing it?" Smith later went so far as to say: "You should -- you should have a cross. You should put yourself up on a cross."
At the very end of the interview, Smith took one final jab at Coulter: "And a final thought, and your dissolution of your relationship with ‘The National Review,’ and the final discussion....And the editor who was offering an explanation, he said ‘the deeper you get with Ann, the less sense she makes.’
Here is the full transcript of the exchange:
7:30AM TEASE:
HARRY SMITH: Also ahead this morning, Julie, you're not going to believe this, talk about strangers in the night. We found out that Ann Coulter and Dave Price were classmates at Cornell.
JULIE CHEN: Did they know each other?
SMITH: Yeah.
DAVE PRICE: No, Ann was popular.
SMITH: Ann Coulter has a new book. She says nasty things about me in it. We're going to find out why in just a couple of minutes.
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: It's going to be good.
7:31AM SEGMENT:
HARRY SMITH: Conservative firebrand Ann Coulter is at it again, stirring up controversy, with her new book, 'Guilty: Liberal Victims and Their Assault on America.' And Ann is with us live in the studio this morning. Good morning.
ANN COULTER: Good morning.
SMITH: You know what? You want to be taken seriously. I think -- I sense that. Right?
COULTER: Yeah.
SMITH: Don't you? Right?
COULTER: Well, I make serious points, but often in a humorous way. For example, with you Harry, because today you are the most brilliant person in the mainstream media.
SMITH: Right, right, right.
COULTER: The most manly. And I am totally reconsidering my approach of attacking everyone in the media I then want to interview me for my books.
SMITH: There you have it. Here's what -- because I took you seriously. I read 150 pages of your book last night.
COULTER: You did! Wasn't it fun?
SMITH: Well, it's not exactly -- here's my problem. Because you try to be funny, because you have this kind of sophomoric, sort of simplistic kind of view of so many things, the points that should be taken seriously, this whole section on single motherhood would be -- could -- should be part of the American conversation right now.
COULTER: Yes.
SMITH: Because you're so goofy, who's going to take you seriously?
COULTER: Well, for one thing, I think any comedy writer will tell you sophomoric is New York Times code for funny. So I thank you for that. And I do think people take me seriously. If they're not reading the book, they're not taking -- they're not getting any of it seriously. And I'll use an example what we've all been joking about today or you've all been joking -- that line from the book that I -- where I quote you.
SMITH: Right.
COULTER: Which -- and it wasn't just you. I mean, everyone was saying it, but that is a serious point I'm making, which is everyone was talking about how -- oh, you want to read the quote?
[ON SCREEN QUOTE: 'Kennedy may be a drunken slob, but unlike CBS News anchors, he is not certifiably insane.']
SMITH: No, well here's the -- because here's the point is-
COULTER: That is such a beautiful line. You see, that is my point.
SMITH: Hang on, here's -- but here's what's serious about this. Alright? A friend of mine who's a liberal -- who was a liberal talk show host in Denver was gunned down in his front yard. He was assassinated. I stood in front of the Murrah Federal Building. I have looked hate in the eye. I know that there are people in this country who would be interested in the death of not only Barack Obama but any president. That was a legitimate question to ask Ted Kennedy-
COULTER: No but the points I make in the book-
SMITH: And Ted -- well, the point you make at my expense and at-
COULTER: -I think is -- not at your expense, at everyone talking about as if Obama is at some unique risk for assassination. And as I go through in the book every presidential-
SMITH: You don't think as an African-American, that he was at some greater risk?
COULTER: No, I do not. Because every presidential assassin -- or attempted presidential assassin in the history of the nation has either been a liberal, a communist, an anarchist, someone on the left, or there were two who had no politics whatsoever unless you count John Hinckley, who is certifiably insane. So, you know, we have-
SMITH: Which goes back -- which goes back to -- to your basic point that everything that's wrong with America is the left's fault.
COULTER: No, I have -- I wouldn't have mentioned that all these presidential assassins were anarchists, communists, liberals, they were some form of, you know, basically Obama's base, other than the fact that everyone keeps talking about Obama being at some unique risk. Well, I'm sorry, Sean Hannity's at greater risk. Rush Limbaugh's at greater risk. I promise you George Bush is at greater risk. He has been physically attacked two weeks ago. There's a book fantasizing about George Bush's assassination. There's a movie -- a documentary fantasizing about George Bush's assassination. And there are more hits on going Google for Obama and assassination than Bush and assassination. So maybe we can stop talking about the threat of right-wing violence in a country that is teeming with left-wing violence. At the Democratic National Convention-
SMITH: Take a breath. Take a breath. Take a breath. Take a breath.
COULTER: -protestors -- I'm breathing fine.
SMITH: Take a breath. Here's -- here's my other point-
COULTER: They have protester after protester-
SMITH: I actually did read your book-
COULTER: At the Democratic National Convention with Molotov cocktails, with guns. You don't find conservative protestors like that at the Democratic National Convention. So, yes, you cite a few rare examples.
SMITH: But that doesn't -- that doesn't-
COULTER: That's why we look at statistics. You have a radio host-
SMITH: Okay. But I made that point from a literal -- my own personal experience. Not from some-
COULTER: You're not certifiably insane. I love you today, Harry Smith, but it was a very funny interview-
SMITH: But here's -- here's-
COULTER: -you must admit that because he was refusing to even understand what you were saying, and you kept saying things like I am thinking of a word and it begins with the letter 'A.' And Teddy Kennedy was refusing to understand what you were saying, so that's why I quoted it, it's a funny interview.
SMITH: Here's -- here's my only other serious point. You talk about victims and victimhood in America, which I think is a serious problem. On the other hand, the more I listen to your complaints, the more I kept thinking, well, you're the whiner. You're the one who's claiming victimhood here. That you're the victim o this great left-wing conspiracy-
COULTER: No, I'm not, but there are real victims.
SMITH: -if there was a real live left-wing conspiracy, how do you account for a Republican president being elected and then realizing it?
COULTER: It's amazing it happens because of the great wisdom of the American people. But the point is, I'm not saying I am the victim. I'm saying that by playing victim, real victims are created. You have millions of unborn babies. They are -- they are real victims. You have the Duke lacrosse players, real victims. You have George Bush, the most persecuted, attacked, and assassination movies and books, president I think since Richard Nixon, you have Joe McCarthy, you have Robert Bork, you have Tom Delay. Everyone was identified as an oppressor -- Sarah Palin-
SMITH: Tom Delay is a victim? Tom Delay is a victim?
COULTER: Yes and all the ones who are-
SMITH: Of what?
COULTER: -identified as oppressors-
SMITH: Right-
COULTER: -are always genuinely the victims and the ones who are the play victims are, in fact, the oppressors.
SMITH: You should -- you should have a cross. You should put yourself up on a cross.
COULTER: No, but I'm not citing me. I'm citing the real victims whom I'm defending and demanding that this perpetual motion machine of the liberal victimization machine playing victim while oppressing others, the millions of illegitimate children born every year, the people who are mugged by the millions of illegitimate children born every year -- they are genuine victims.
SMITH: It's the liberals' fault, it's the liberals' fault.
COULTER: Illegitimacy is certainly something that I document quite thoroughly has been promoted through the media, the courts, and federal government, as something that is celebrated and promoted by the left-wing in America. It was a plan, it wasn't an accident. And that's why the illegitimacy rate has gone up by 300% since 1970.
SMITH: Right, right. And a final thought, and your dissolution of your relationship with 'The National Review,' and the final discussion.
COULTER: Yes.
SMITH: And the editor who was offering an explanation, he said 'the deeper you get with Ann, the less sense she makes.'
COULTER: Yes, I do not have a lot of fans among conservative authors who don't sell as many books as I do.
SMITH: There you go.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.





COULTER: Which -- and it wasn't just you. I mean, everyone was saying it, but that is a serious point I'm making, which is everyone was talking about how -- oh, you want to read the quote? 














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Ann, she goes
January 6, 2009 - 13:17 ET by 10ksnookerWhere the dragons live, and slays them handily.
You should be on a cross?
January 6, 2009 - 13:24 ET by thebutlerdiditYou should be on a cross? You're a whiny person, who is acting like a victim? Wow, that Harriet Smith is really on fire! I love the fact that this never happens to the libs. Just like Harriet mentioned Ann's split with NR. Of course that's been 8 years now, but we've got to bring it up. Just like when Barbara Walters interviewed Rush last, she had to bring up the drug addiction. Funny how it could have been 6 mos since one of them had some nasty business going on in their lives, but they make sure to gloss over it, if they even mention it. I think she was given a gift by the goofy NBC, but it still ticks me off how our side is the one that is supposed bend, or be reasonable or play nice. GRRRRRR!
Wow, isn't Harry brave,
January 6, 2009 - 15:32 ET by motherbeltWow, isn't Harry brave, attacking a 100-lb woman???
I was just like you, wondering where the hell he dredged up that National Review thing from!!
That was at least 10 years ago, but no one is supposed to mention what Jeremiah Wright said within the past year! He was like a little kid trying to get all his insults in. All that was missing was "and your mother dresses you funny!"
Get over yourself, Harry
January 6, 2009 - 13:40 ET by KC Mulville"I have looked hate in the eye."
Oh, good grief, get over yourself, Harry. You won't mention the Twin Towers because it conflicts with your meme about how Bush started it all. Tell us about hate, Harry ...
KC - What Harry Smith meant to say..
January 6, 2009 - 14:02 ET by Gary Hall"I have looked at hate in my mirror... "
".. and, of course, I've also seen a whiner," "goofy," "simplistic," and "sophomoric journalist in that mirror."
gary
Yeah, but ...
January 6, 2009 - 15:33 ET by KC MulvilleHe may have seen those things, but I doubt he had the courage to say anything to himself.
Harry L Smith
January 6, 2009 - 14:07 ET by needle"SMITH (quoting a National Review editor) 'the deeper you get with Ann, the less sense she makes.'"
The more I read Ann Coulter, the more sense she makes.
If Harry Smith cannot understand her, that is perfect testimony to how poorly he understands the messed up world that he attempts to comment upon.
It is interesting that Ann cited various examples – in the real world there are simply too many to count – of how President Bush has been victimized by liberals, and Harry Smith made not the slightest effort to explain it, justify it, or mitigate it. However, he attempts, quite unsuccessfully, to castigate Ann for publishing all of this which Harry wants to ignore. All in all an incandescent demonstration of denial. What a great anchor for CBS!
Harry, what is that big “L” on your forehead for? Leftist? Liberal? Loser?
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
The big L is for
January 6, 2009 - 14:48 ET by HockeyKidThe big L is for "lightweight". Harry just doesn't have the stones to be a real journalist.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
obviously the reason Ann
January 7, 2009 - 08:25 ET by TruthMongerobviously the reason Ann doesn't make sense to harry is that common sense doesn't make sense to leftard moonbats like harry
btw harry you make absolutely no sense at the surface
Dominate education now
Needle
January 6, 2009 - 17:28 ET by DoktorFrankenYou ask: ''Harry, what is that big 'L' on your forehead for? Leftist? Liberal? Loser?''
It's for Lying, Leftist, Liberal, Loser.
I have to laugh when Leftists dredge up the one or two instances (Harry's 'friend' is a poor example) where a 'right wing nutzo' is responsible for a heinous act. Then, if you mention the thousands of Leftist or IslamoFacist attacks and the thousands of people killed by whackos who are not Right Wing, the huffing and puffing starts like crazy (hence the Huffington Post).
And these idiots laugh at the 'Vast Left Wing Conspiracy' when, in actuality, they work for a huge segment of it. But Ms. Coulter is brilliant in handling these self-important, puffed-up 'Enlightened Ones'.
As always, you can't get
January 6, 2009 - 15:39 ET by bigtimerAs always, you can't get the best of Ann...try as they might, they always end up with egg on their faces...all of them.
By the way...it is National Reviews loss when it comes to Ann...not the other way around.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Why?
January 6, 2009 - 15:51 ET by JDWThe transcript does not do this justice, link to the interview.
Consider the infinite Palin bashing. How could she benefit by interviewing on these shows?
Coulter is truly brilliant, why is she any different than Gov Palin?
Imagine Rush wasting his time being interviewed by one of these pinheads. He knows what their goal is before the lights and cameras are on.
JDW
DAILY WAVE
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"President Biden?"
January 6, 2009 - 16:34 ET by Dad GummitNope. There's no danger.
"If you don't read a newspaper, you are uninformed. If you do read a newspaper, you are mis-informed."-Mark Twain
Hey Harriet, I am also
January 6, 2009 - 17:19 ET by SickofLibsHey Harriet, I am also "thinking of a word that begins with the letter A."
This JO has the nerve to imply that an African-American (actually half-black, as we never hear anymore) PE is intrinsically "at a greater risk" - from who, the millions and millions of white voters who elected him? Psychopathic BDS is just a fallacy? I think it's actually a miracle (and a credit to the SS) Bush wasn't knocked off in the past 8 years, considering the level of visceral hatred.
and the winner for most smug attiude during an interview...
January 6, 2009 - 17:59 ET by Jnoble..goes to Harry Smith for acting like he was talking down to a disobediant 5 year old instead of a grown woman.
That darn Ann! Why won't she just get in line and fall all over Lord Obama and the liberal agenda like the rest of the guests on that show?
Coulter: They are -- they
January 6, 2009 - 21:47 ET by Morgan WickCoulter: They are -- they are real victims. You have the Duke lacrosse players, real victims. You have George Bush, the most persecuted, attacked, and assassination movies and books, president I think since Richard Nixon, you have Joe McCarthy, you have Robert Bork, you have Tom Delay. Everyone was identified as an oppressor -- Sarah Palin-
SMITH: Tom Delay is a victim? Tom Delay is a victim?
You buried the lead there, Smith! So far as the media is concerned, you should be asking about calling Nixon and Palin "victims"! Joe McCarthy was a victim? Richard Freaking Nixon was a victim? No wonder Smith started calling Coulter a whiner from here on out.
This is the problem I have with a lot of TV these days. I would have liked to see that point, and maybe a few others, debated on at length. Heck, maybe that format would help to clear out any "liberal bias" that actually existed. If Coulter did a good enough job defending the idea that Joe McCarthy was somehow a victim, it might open Smith's mind a little.
Nothing to debate. The matter is settled.
January 7, 2009 - 03:17 ET by JWFThe only people hurt by Joe McCarthy were communists. He was largely correct. Yet liberals love to equte McCarthy with witchhunts. Ann has covered this at length in one of her books.
Richard Nixon was felled by Mark Felt, who was passed over for Director of the FBI, and had an ax to grind with the President who failed to appoint him. In case you had not noticed, Richard Nixon would have finished out his term were it not for the liberal media's coup with the help of Mark Felt.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Harry has a new middle name.
January 6, 2009 - 23:03 ET by Mike BrattonTo go along with Barack "I've got a bracelet, too!" Obama, let's all say hello to Harry "I've looked evil in the eye!" Smith.
Smith demonstrated Ms. Coulter's argument quite clearly.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
She was certainly right
January 7, 2009 - 02:27 ET by RR GOPShe was certainly right about Senator McCarthy.
If he hadn't been shut down/destroyed and allowed to keep exposing these Leftist subversives then this site addressing Liberal bias probably wouldn't even exist.
It's rather refreshing to view Senator McCarthy 180 degrees differently than what you've been brainwashed into believing your whole life.
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Harriet's friend in Denver,
January 7, 2009 - 05:17 ET by BigSky1970Harriet's friend in Denver, KOA-AM radio jock Alan Berg was gunned down by Jew-hating kooks who didn't care what party label a person wore on their sleeve. The group, led by a left-winged kook, also targeted Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Fred Silverman.
squeaky
January 7, 2009 - 08:02 ET by AgnosticWhile I am not personally a big fan of Ann Coulter I believe that she is very important to the conservative movement in the US. One of the main general social problems in the US is the overwhelming evidence that the adage ‘the squeaky wheel gets the grease’ is true. Logic, reason and the common good go out the window in order to put grease on the squeaky wheel de jour. It is generally against the natural inclination of a conservative to be abrasive and seek confrontation. That is not to say that many conservatives don’t evoke abrasiveness and take actions that end up in confrontation; oddly enough that seems to be commonplace. But at this point in Conservatism, Ann Coulter represents the loudest squeaky wheel going. Others have a bigger audience but are restricted because they spend most of their time preaching to the choir.
A person may be won over with logic and reason but the masses must be bought with spectacle and platitudes. - 2008 Elections