CBS’s Rodriguez: Blagojevich ‘Innocent Until Proven Guilty’

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Maggie Rodriguez, CBS On Monday’s CBS Early Show, co-host Maggie Rodriguez discussed the potential impeachment of disgraced Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich with Democratic Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky and asked: "You've been calling for impeachment proceedings since the day after this scandal broke. Why? What happened to innocent until proven guilty?" Schakowsky explained: "No, this isn't about the legal process. This is about the governor being unable to govern right now. This is really a political question. Right now, our state is without the leadership that we need and so, of course, he'll be innocent until proven guilty in the courts."

This is not the first time Rodriguez gave the benefit of the doubt to a Democratic official embroiled in scandal. In March, Rodriguez defended the disgraced Mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick, who was accused and later convicted of perjury, regarding sexually explicit text messages. At the time, Rodriguez asked the prosecutor in the case: "But texting and actually doing are two different things. Is innuendo evidence?"

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On Monday, Rodriguez went on to ask Schakowsky about her meetings with the governor: "I know that you were among President-elect Obama's choices to replace him and you spoke with the governor about that. Can you tell me about that conversation? Was there anything inappropriate said or implied?" Schakowsky replied: "Not even close." Rodriguez saw that as reasonable doubt: "So then you believe that he is capable of what he's accused of doing? But just didn’t take that approach with you?"

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

7:05AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: The pressure is mounting on Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to resign. CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds has -- is in Chicago with more on that. Good morning, sir.

DEAN REYNOLDS: Good morning, Harry. Well, the impeachment proceedings are set to get underway today in Springfield, the supreme court is considering a petition to remove Blagojevich from office, but for now, the governor is still very much the governor.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN [REPORTER]: The longer -- the longer you say nothing, the longer people wonder if you have something to hide, Governor.

ROD BLAGOJEVICH: There will be an appropriate time to talk about this, but let me just wish everybody happy holidays and things will be -- work out just fine.

REYNOLDS: Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich gave no indication that he would resign as he left a meeting with his lawyer last night, but two of the state's top politicians, both likely to run for governor in 2010, renewed their calls for Blagojevich to resign.

PAT QUINN [ILLINOIS DEMOCRATIC LT. GOVERNOR]: He's got to do something because our state is in crisis.

LISA MADIGAN [ILLINOIS DEMOCRATIC ATTORNEY GENERAL]: We're really in a situation here in the state of Illinois, where we don't have a governor who can legitimately governor and so it has been imperative that we find a way to move forward.

REYNOLDS: One way would be to remove Blagojevich from office, something Madigan has already asked the Illinois Supreme Court to consider. Another could be possible impeachment proceedings by the state legislature, which, according to one survey, has the support of 80% of lawmakers. But the questions of how to fill President-elect Barack Obama's U.S. Senate seat remains. Democrats, who first called for a special election, now appear to be wavering. They want the Governor Blagojevich to quit so that the Democratic lieutenant governor could appoint someone to Mr. Obama's seat. Republicans say a special election is the best option.

TOM CROSS [ILLINOIS REPUBLICAN STATE REPRESENTATIVE]: We've just been shocked as a state over the last four or five days and in order to restore whatever integrity we have left in this state, we have to make it as transparent as possible.

REYNOLDS: As for the governor himself, a couple of meetings over the weekend with defense attorneys would indicate that he, at least on the surface, intends to fight. Harry.

SMITH: Alright, thanks very much, Dean Reynolds in Chicago. Maggie.

MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: Thank you, Harry. Joining us now this morning, also from Chicago, Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, who has known Governor Rod Blagojevich for years. Good morning to you, Congresswoman.

JAN SCHAKOWSKY: Good morning.

RODRIGUEZ: You've been calling for impeachment proceedings since the day after this scandal broke. Why? What happened to innocent until proven guilty?

SCHAKOWSKY: No, this isn't about the legal process. This is about the governor being unable to govern right now. This is really a political question. Right now, our state is without the leadership that we need and so, of course, he'll be innocent until proven guilty in the courts. But we already know that we're literally without a governor right now that can -- can lead.

RODRIGUEZ: Not if you ask him. He's going back to work today. His spokesperson says he will not resign. We saw him wishing everybody happy holidays, almost as if nothing ever happened. Do you believe that he thinks he did nothing wrong here?

SCHAKOWSKY: I -- you know, it's hard to understand anymore what the governor's really thinking. The charges that were leveled against him are so fantastical, where he was imagining himself being appointed secretary of Health and Human Services or an ambassadorship. And so, you know, it seems like the grip on reality, political reality anyway, is pretty slim.

RODRIGUEZ: I know that you were among President-elect Obama's choices to replace him and you spoke with the governor about that. Can you tell me about that conversation? Was there anything inappropriate said or implied?

SCHAKOWSKY: Not even close. Which makes me think maybe I really wasn't in consideration, because I was talking to the governor on November 18th to ascertain -- you know, we've known each other a long time, I said, 'Rod, am I really in contention? Am I on a list of yours?' And he assured me that I was, but looking back, I guess I wasn't.

RODRIGUEZ: So then you believe that he is capable of what he's accused of doing? But just didn't take that approach with you?

SCHAKOWSKY: Well -- no, no, he didn't take that approach with me and I -- you know, we'll see if he's proven guilty, but the words that he spoke, the kind of brazenness about basically really auctioning off, you know, that this was a prize that he had and he wasn't going to give it away for nothing, I think shocked a lot of people. It crossed a line. You know, experienced politicians understand that there are parameters and -- within which you horse trade. You know, if I'm going to run for governor and appoint you, then I would expect your support, or how about a commitment that you'll support my health care plan, those kinds of things. But to really be bartering for money or for jobs, all personal gain, was really offensive, I think, too. Almost -- well to everyone in Illinois.

RODRIGUEZ: It goes too far. Congresswoman Jan Schakowsky, thank you.

SCHAKOWSKY: Thank you.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Such horrible bias

How dare Maggie Rodriguez want to carry out the legal process set forth by our forefathers on a liberal.

 

It's just disgusting.

You could say the same

About Cheney ... But didn't. Convicted in the Plame affair on TV.

LISA MADIGAN [ILLINOIS

LISA MADIGAN [ILLINOIS DEMOCRATIC ATTORNEY GENERAL]: We're really in a situation here in the state of Illinois, where we don't have a governor who can legitimately governor and so it has been imperative that we find a way to move forward - These peopel are idiots to think Blogo cant govern or be governor.  Now he may not do a good job or be inneffective but he is governor, teh one the people elected ... hmmm .... just llike teh people elected Obama.  I say let him be as he is doing just fine, I mean none had any objection before this allegation.

I seem to remember Tom Delay being an alleged criminal and accused of wrong doings, I dont remember any in teh media saying "Innocent until proven guilty".  As fair minded and unbiased people we must stand by our principles we had for Delay.   So let Bloggo be and let the courts take care of it.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Ms. Madigan's dad was former

Ms. Madigan's dad was former (or still is) the Illinois State House Speaker.  Politics, Chicago style where any GOPer can be prosecuted just for being a Repub.  Remember Jack Ryan who ran against Obama for the Senate seat?  His only crime?  Messy divorce from a liberal Hollywood actress, Jeri Ryan.....

I long for the days gone by when America was a decent place to live and I am only 43 years old!

Imus -Blago comparison at least that is Imus's own hair

The L Word 25 men who look like old lesbians the Blago edition.

http://getoffmyphone.blogspot.com/2008/12/l-word.html

Libs

 

 Let me see now .If you are a member of the GOP you are guilty just because you name comes up under an ongoing investigation. You should resign imeditialy.

 

  Go figure. 

If the accused is a Dem:

If the accused is a Dem: Innocent until proven guilty.

If it's a Republican: Guilty even if proven innocent.

That's the way it is today in the good ol' former U.S.A.

Bingo!

Not only is the Republican guilty before proven innocent, he is proven guilty even by the very accusation. The media has already made up the verdict!

Vast Right Wing Conspiricy

With the MSM, the issue isn't guilt or innocence, but rather, "The Seriousness of the Charges".

Unless a Democrat is charged, in which case it's just the Vast Right Wing Conspiricy.

 

"Gov. Palin has been subjected to one of the most massive and dishonest pile-on smear attacks in the history of liberal media."  -- Lowell Ponte

Even more so, being a

Even more so, being a Republican is a crime.  Does that make me a criminal?

I agree with this


I agree with this lady.  As conservatives who believe the Constitution and its supporting documents we need to be in favor of due process.  And by due process, I mean a long and drawn out judicial process.  One lasting at least 4 years (or until the Sacred O's next scandal can pick up the heat).

Stupid Phrase

"Innocent until proven guilty" is a stupid phrase. A person's guilt is established the moment he perpetrates a crime. That's the moment of guilt. The state and its courts must presume innocence until a soul is proven guilty. The burden of proof is on the state and not the person.

We should say a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty, but until I'm on a jury or an officer of the court it doesn't apply to me.

Blagojevich is guilty as homemade, homebrewed, home-constructed sin, but I hope he stays put.

Spare the Rod and spoil the man-child.

American Thinker has an interesting article

I'm a firm believer in due process. Obviously you aren't,Kyle. In that respect, you have much in common with the left .

"The criminal complaint looks damning, but the complaint is only a set of allegations. While some of the proof is summarized in the criminal complaint, the evidence itself has not been disclosed publicly. Pieces of conversations may be taken out of context, and self-aggrandizing boasts may look worse on paper than on audio. Additionally, many of the people involved are not identified by name, and their testimony may shed light on the context of seemingly damning statements. The presumption of innocence applies even to Gov. Blagojevich."

Thats from that left wing rag, The American Thinker.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/12/for_the_sake_of_the_nation_gov.ht...

Crisis and laughingstock

The state of Illinois and City of Chicago are a laughingstock right now, due to two reasons: (1) the consistent pattern of corruption; (2) getting caught consistently. The rest of the country's large cities are probably just as corrupt, but Chicago keeps getting caught.

  • That's not a crisis. I mean, it might be a crisis if it was a one-time thing, and was so unusual that the people didn't know how to proceed. But for Illinois and Chicago ... this is business as usual. It's not like it hasn't been going on for a couple years, or decades. This isn't a "crisis." It's going on all the time. Why the panic?
  • Look, I want to get rid of Blagojevich, too. But they're just panicking because they're a media laughingstock. The hysterical overreaction isn't wise or prudent. The inability to focus may be part of the overall problem.

Besides, I don't like setting a precedent where officials have to resign because of a firestorm. I heard the Illinois attorney general and lieutenant governor on MTP argue that the governor must resign because he isn't politically respected. They wanted to define "disabled" as politically (read: media) disrespected. Granted, in this case they may be entirely correct about Blagojevich, but is that a precedent you want to establish? Will the next media firestorm mean that the next guy will have to resign, just because of outrageous charges? There was a media firestorm over Monica Lewinsky - is that where we want to go? The same people who are embarrassed now were embarrassed then, but of course, they've re-written history to claim that impeachment was a travesty with Clinton.

In the effort to look like they're quickly responding, these people are creating precedents that they'll regret.

Wait, what am I saying? They'll rewrite the rules again when a Republican is involved. Silly me.

This

"
Besides, I don't like setting a precedent where officials have to resign because of a firestorm."

 And I don't either.

innocent

 

Damn that didn't work for Tom Delay 

Innocent unless Republican

The Duke Lacrosse players also suffered media and PC condemnation without a trial.

A CORRECTION FOR THE ARTICLE WRITER: Yeah prosecutor Kim Worthy got the goods on Kwame Kilpatrick, but in the end, he copped a plea (was not convicted) for perjury and skipped putting his family and the City through a costly & lengthy trial (gee, thanks). Kilpatrick gets free cable TV for 180 days, at our expense. He was also ordered to surrender his Law License, though he & his lawyers are now fighting that.

A Democrat is never really guilty. Just passionate about their work on the "people's" behalf.

Although Ms. Rodriguez is no doubt too thick to know it...

Although Ms. Rodrigues is no doubt too thick to know it, that's what impeachments are for--determining guilt or innocence. There's no *#*#ing doubt about it, the Governor deserves a fair trial--and soon.

"You've been calling for

"You've been calling for impeachment proceedings since the day after this scandal broke. Why? What happened to innocent until proven guilty?"


Actually, YOU STUPID IGNORANT WOMAN you could not be more wrong.

"Impeachment" is the process by which "evidence" is presented to a "jury" (the House) to see if there is a case to be answered.

If the house votes YES, then the "case" is tried in the Senate.

This is why President Clinton was impeached, but found NOT GUILY at his Senate trial.

If it helps Maggie, think of the House as the Grand Jury. And the Senate as the courtroom.

I do understand that each state has its own State rules, which may include judges in the trial like New York, but generally that's the case as far as I know.

God help us with this monumental ignorance which pervades the media.

If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same...
Yours is the earth and all that's in it...

In defending disgraced

In defending disgraced Detroit mayor Kwame Fitzpatrick, mebbe he sent Maggie one of those sexually explicit text messages.  hmmmm...?

Rod Blagojevich = A Colleague and Confidant of Barack Obama

In order to understand the fervor of the defense of Rod Blagojevich, you must make this simple substitution every time you see the name.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

"But texting and actually

"But texting and actually doing are two different things." 

I think Mark Foley and Gerry Studds are a fine example of this.  Foley texted a page.  Stubbs took a page to Portugal and buggered him.  Foley resigned and a censured Studds was re-elected 7 more times.  Guess this shows liberals don't have any morals and don't really care about protecting children.

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

Can we?

Can we impeach Illinois?

Let's see...were Palin,

Let's see...were Palin, McCain and Bush portrayed by the MSM to be innocent of virtually every atrocity you could think of?

Of course, Joe Wurzelbacher committed blasphemy against the Savior, so there's no hope for him.

Also interesting to not that Tim Mahoney's gotten NO where near the coverage that his predecessor Mark Foley did...and of course, Barney Frank's and Spitzer's baggage fell off the radar ages ago.  But, we're still inundated with the occasional "Sarah Palin is dangerous" interview (not 'we', don't watch the scum suckers, just read about it online).

 

 

One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.

Maggie Rodriguez(TV) vs Congresswoman J.Schkowsky.-

Hello! 12/15/08  21:22.-Hours.- Att/ Ms. M. Rodriguez.-

Reading all this corruption by Illinois Governor, is nothing during Cook County during  l925/1927 and continue the 30th's.- Today Dade Miami County is probably as worst as Cook County.-Most of those  anchors (TV) which by reading their Lines.-  I'll betcha today... by Jan 20th/2009.- Regarding this Governor has  "new Manure" with that advice " Impeachable conduct need not be criminal" the set is stage for a guide open inquiry by Democratic & Republicans."  "partisan" will start soon.- Also today our loans $$$$, by the billions(tribillions) Automotive  industry, Banks, Wall Street, States, highways, bridges,Counties, Schools.-etc.- Now Amendments  to the Constitution No # 1 No# 2 .- This probably administration with this "Socialism"  will be the causal ground on which occasioner.- (causer).-(IMPEACHABLE).-

Thanks & Cooperation.-

Charles H. Garrido.

Miami Fla.-

 

 

 

 

Maybe I've Missed It, But . . .

Sorry, double post

 


Maybe I've Missed It, But . . .

Isn't it beginning to look a lot like Fitz-mas?

 


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