In a report on Thursday’s CBS Evening News on the Republican Governors Association conference, correspondent Kelly Cobiella focused on Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, observing: "A lot of Americans would like to see her stay on the national stage -- 45 percent, according a new Gallup Poll. But even more, 52, percent, would not." Cobiella then added: "The party itself is split on whether to embrace Palin-style conservatism or broaden its appeal." A clip of Politico’s Jonathan Martin was featured: "You talk to a lot of these governors and they're very candid about it. This cannot be a white rural male party. And if it is, it's going to die."
Cobiella began the report by describing Palin’s attendance at the conference this way: "Alaska Governor Sarah Palin blew into Miami like a hurricane." In reference to Palin’s address to the organization, Cobiella remarked: "But when it came time to lay out her vision of the party's future, her role in it, her speech was heavy on the past." Cobiella also critiqued Palin’s press conference: "She also gave her first formal press conference since joining the Republican ticket. It was four questions long." After suggesting Palin’s press conference was too short, Cobiella described the Governor’s recent media blitz as simply: "firing back at critics, including unnamed aides to Senator John McCain, who said she spent too much money on clothes and wasn't prepared for the job."
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
6:38PM SEGMENT:
HARRY SMITH: To politics now. As Republicans try to regroup after losing the White House and more of Congress last week, today's round of soul searching began in Miami, where GOP governors are meeting. That includes Sarah Palin, who is not retreating from the national stage. More from Kelly Cobiella.
KELLY COBIELLA: Alaska Governor Sarah Palin blew into Miami like a hurricane. But when it came time to lay out her vision of the party's future, her role in it, her speech was heavy on the past.
SARAH PALIN: Those who came out on the campaign trail also to say -- remember folks like "Joe the Plumber."
COBIELLA: She also gave her first formal press conference since joining the Republican ticket. It was four questions long.
PALIN: The campaign is over, and...you know, we're going to focus here on what we can do as a team of Republican governors together.
COBIELLA: In the nine days since the election, the party's new star has given nearly a dozen interviews, firing back at critics, including unnamed aides to Senator John McCain, who said she spent too much money on clothes and wasn't prepared for the job.
[CLIP OF PALIN KTUU INTERVIEW]
PALIN: Well, it's mean spirited. It's immature, it's unprofessional. And those guys are jerks.
[CLIP OF PALIN TODAY INTERVIEW]
PALIN: I haven't seen $150,000 worth of clothes.
(CLIP OF PALIN CNN INTERVIEW)
PALIN: I'm going to stay above any of that pettiness.
WOLF BLITZER: You're not ruling out a run in 2012 for president of the United States, are you?
PALIN: Not ruling that out.
[END OF CLIPS]
COBIELLA: A lot of Americans would like to see her stay on the national stage -- 45 percent, according a new Gallup Poll. But even more, 52, percent, would not. The party itself is split on whether to embrace Palin-style conservatism or broaden its appeal.
TIM PAWLENTY: We cannot compete and prevail as a majority governing party if we have a significant deficit, as we do with women, with Hispanics, with African-American voters.
JONATHAN MARTIN: You talk to a lot of these governors and they're very candid about it. This cannot be a white rural male party. And if it is, it's going to die.
COBIELLA: For now, Governor Sarah Palin says she's headed back to Alaska, and the national spotlight likely won't be far behind. Kelly Cobiella, CBS News, Miami.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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in a word - NO!
November 14, 2008 - 15:27 ET by wizardjrGovernor Palin is everything that is right about conservatism. If we had 500 like her in D.C. this would be the light of the world instead of a "used to be" on the way to a Socialist Workers Paradise. Habla si Frog?
How long has CBS got?
November 14, 2008 - 15:30 ET by 10ksnookerI give it two years tops, then the doors close.
Tim Pawlenty....and other
November 14, 2008 - 15:32 ET by bigtimerTim Pawlenty....and other politicos with an R behind your name...you cannot prevail if you keep attempting to play to the so-called moderates, independents, the msm, on and on...the only way you are going to prevail. is being conservative republicans...
Illegal Immigration, Borders, Amnesty plans, energy independence here, meaning mainly OIL, coal and Nuclear plants ect. Constitutional Judges, English only, lower taxes, vouchers, home schooling, choice for education, less regulations, environ., and others and of course the WOT, defense of this country.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bt, you are so right about this...
November 14, 2008 - 16:05 ET by Thalpybt, you are so right about this because we are not doing many of the things that can assure our survival. At a time when we are in disarray, our enemies grow stronger and stronger.
Gov. of reliably blue state tells GOP how to win? No thanks
November 15, 2008 - 04:34 ET by nkviking75Gov. Pawlenty, when you and your fellow Independent Republicans (official name of Minnesota GOP) make some progress steering Minnesota away from it's status as a reliably blue state, then I'll consider your advice for the GOP.
It's hard to recruit more Republicans when people like you talk down the base and its values. We need Republicans who can take our values and communicate them to women and minorities. (That's why Steele would be a dynamite choice for RNC chairman.) It'll take time, but eventually we'll start drawing from those groups if they are shown that conservatism works and liberalism keeps them locked in their lower status in society.
Welcome to the era of unity, you racist!
The crux of the media's
November 14, 2008 - 15:43 ET by motherbeltThe crux of the media's advice Republican success is always "be more like Democrats."
What a joke. As if they really want Republicans to succeed.
John Hawkins at Townhall.com has an article entitled 15 Questions for People Who Say the GOP Should Become More Moderate.
They are all great questions, (#3 asks if Republicans really think they can outbid Democrats on goodies) but I think the final one is the money quote:
#15) When the Democratic Party was out of power, the party moved to the
left, not to the center. They obstructed the GOP at every opportunity,
put hard-core left-wingers in charge of everything, and ran an
extremely liberal candidate in 2008. Granted, they also had moderate
Democrats that they ran in states and districts that leaned red, but
those people are almost completely locked out of power and their agenda
is largely ignored. Since that strategy worked so well for the
Democrats, doesn't it make more sense for the GOP to pursue the same
strategy instead of continuing the move to the center that has done so
much damage to the party over the last two elections? (emphasis mine)
So what do you think the media wants to see happen?
Right on MB
November 14, 2008 - 15:47 ET by exLibThis is what I have been thinking about over the last week as all the MSMer's keep saying that the GOP can't be the party of "No".
Well, that is exacatly what the Dems have been for the last 8 years and they had no platform to run on except we are not GWB.
mb, CBS and all of MSM have done more than enough...
November 14, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Thalpymb, CBS and all of MSM have done more than enough for the Republican party. They have seen to it that the American people have been blocked from objective information. Of course, the Republican party didn't need much help with its own demise, but to expect any constructive advice from the MSM is a joke. The MSM are our enemy--period.
Exactly mb...I posted
November 14, 2008 - 15:54 ET by bigtimerExactly mb...I posted somewhat the same thoughts right above you...I tire of some of the R's thinking we have to bend more to the msm and the so-called moderates, I am done with the holding my nose and voting for RINOs...period...ALL of them.
Btw...thanks for the link.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Hey, afternoon, bt....while
November 14, 2008 - 16:03 ET by motherbeltHey, afternoon, bt....while you're over at townhall also check out Jonah Goldberg's latest.. GOP Road Sign...Keep Right.
It's about time Republicans listen to some people who actually want to see them succeed!
We need someone well-versed in conservatism and not afraid to deck [your] opponent (to quote Her Royal Clintoness).
Newt is starting to look good (if they can keep him from hobnobbing with Her Speakerness) he might shape up!
Once again thanks mb... I
November 14, 2008 - 16:04 ET by bigtimerOnce again thanks mb...
I will do just that...it is Friday afternoon so I have to get some things done earlier than normal, my husband gets off work early on Friday's...I will be checking all of this out, if not today...by the end of the week-end...unless company shows up...lol.
Links are going to be saved though.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I have a full frontal
November 14, 2008 - 15:46 ET by ConservativeRexI have a full frontal lobotomy scheduled for next Tuesday, right after that I 'll start listening to CBS for advice on how Republicans should run for office.
That sure is a winning strategy, beg all moderates and "Reagan" democrats to vote Republican, which they never do.
Then. then, we can try to win over independants who don't have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the bottom.
If , in the next presidential election, the GOP put's anyone on there that's A) Over 65, B) a RINO or C) wants to "reach across the asile", then they need to have their head's examined while they lose another election.
I have a full frontal
November 14, 2008 - 15:50 ET by motherbeltI have a full frontal lobotomy scheduled for next Tuesday, right after
that I 'll start listening to CBS for advice on how Republicans should
run for office.
LOL!
Have you ever noticed that they never advise Democrats to become more "moderate"? Insisting that Obama will govern from the center doesn't count, because he will be a far-left President but they will call everything that he does centrist.
Political Science 101
November 14, 2008 - 15:51 ET by mizflame98The party itself is split on whether to embrace Palin-style conservatism or broaden its appeal.
Allow me to help the party decide. The GOP got away from the Palin-style conservatism and you know what happened? We got Obama as our president-elect.
CLASS DISMISSED.
“I've spoken to all of them that are living. I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about, you know, doing any seances" B.H. Obama
Exactly
November 14, 2008 - 19:02 ET by ReaverEmbracing "Palin-style" conservitism would broaden the party's appeal. Which is why the media will do everything it can to marginalize and discourage it.
The media....
November 15, 2008 - 06:34 ET by old crohave been trying to marginalize and discourage it since about 1980.
A lot of Americans would
November 14, 2008 - 16:03 ET by dscottA lot of Americans would like to see her stay on the national stage -- 45 percent, according a new Gallup Poll. But even more, 52, percent, would not. The party itself is split on whether to embrace Palin-style conservatism or broaden its appeal.
Once again who are they polling? The only valid poll is among registered Republicans as to who their candidate should be, NOT Democrats or Independents. Why all of a sudden this concern for the GOP? Sounds to me all Kelly Cobiella (the MSM) wants is a choice between a Democrat and a Democrat or rather a double nomination process. Sorry, we are not interested in advice from liberals on how to be more like Democrats, that's a non starter.
The whole split in the GOP over Palin is a bogus claim and fails the test of facts. According to MSM own (CNN exit polling data) info. of those who identified themselves (32%) as Republican only 9% voted for Obama and 90% voted for McCain/Palin, 1% other. The Dems numbers were similar, of those who identified themselves (39%) as Dem 89% voted Obama and 10% voted McCain/Palin, 1% other. If Palin split the GOP by 9% then dufus Biden split the Dems by 10%, so what's your point Cobiella? So that makes you either a moron or a deceiver, which is it?
What this is really about is preserving the RINO wing of the GOP, they are being voted out and replaced with Dems. The public has made it clear, if they want a Dem, they will vote for a Dem, not a pseudo-Dem. That's why McCain lost, Dems and independents were given a choice between Democrat and Democrat-lite. What the GOP has to do, if you believe the CNN exit polling data is to either convert independents to the GOP political affliation and or do a voter registration drive just like the Dems did. If the number of Dems = Repubs, then we would win every time as Repubs are far more likely to show up at the polls on election day.
BTW-that's why early voting is all the rage, because of the old adage if it rains on election day, the Dems stay home. Give the Dems extra days to vote and surely one of them will be sunny. Also interesting is the percentage of actual voters did not change from last election cycle, so ACORN's efforts essentially replaced lost Dems on the roster. The implication being, if ACORN had not have made the effort, the Dem party would have lost the election because as time goes on, people wise up to the empty promises of their salesmanship.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
You forgot one point DScott
November 14, 2008 - 16:28 ET by exLibGreat points, but you forgot one major point; From what I read about 10% or more Republicans stayed home on election night.
So there are probably another group of voters out there who also didn't want Rino conservativism.
Also, I remember Jon Stewart, among others, were saying that Obama's lack of experience was a non-starter because he won the support of voters. (Of course that didn't stop the MSM from brining up Bush's Guard service controversy in 04). Remember his stellar campaign proved he was "Qualified".
too true
November 14, 2008 - 18:35 ET by wizardjrUnfortunately a great number of cons stayed home because they could not hold their nose and pull the lever for McLame. I was going to be one of those but then Gov. Palin showed up. I just had to get in a vote for her, even though McLame was deliberately chosen as a stalking horse for the Dims to win over. I can't blame the stay-at-homes. I just wish the ticket were reversed and/or Sarah got to run with a real conservative partner, not some RINO.
The only thing that really scares the crap out of me is the probability that Barry will select two Supreme Clowns. Just imagine, two Ruth Bader Ginsburgs. Oh God, where's my bottle of vodka? We're so-o-o-o-o screwed.
So what should it be, Jonathan?
November 14, 2008 - 15:52 ET by Mike BrattonA pro-abortion, anti-firearm, taxaholic home for socialism?
Would that work for you, Jonathan?
Oh, no, wait. We have one of those already, in the Democrats.
--Mike
www.thebrattonreport...
Republicans
November 14, 2008 - 15:56 ET by NorthCoasterJohn McCain is a wonderful Patriot and did his best in the 2008 Presidential Election, which was amazingngly close in the popular vote.
The premise that we have to be more like the Democrats, means that they get to define who the Republican party is. Sarah Palin is definitely not a rural White Male. When you listen to her discuss what has been accomlished in Alaska, you realize how close she is to other leading strong Republicans. The need over the next election cycles, is to develop a number of strong Regional voices that can present a good National presence. The days of allowing the Democrats to frame the debate on their own terms needs to come to an end. Ken Blackwell, Mit Romney, Newt Gingrich, Michael Steele, Bobby Jindal, and Sarah Palin have been those kinds of voices from outside the beltway. Mike Pence, John Boehner and others inside the beltway have been vocal, but they need the outside support. I'm sure there are others I'm leaving out who would be exceptional additions to the lists.
Can we keep things in
November 14, 2008 - 16:43 ET by ckc1227Can we keep things in perspective, please? We've had the White House for the last 8 years, a tough 8 years at that. It's not like it's been decades since we've been in power. Republicans governed poorly, and they paid for it. That's it. It's not about being a "white rural male party", it's about making bad decisions. Calling yourself a Conservative isn't enough, you have to actually govern as one. The irony is, they have governed as Democrats the past several years and lost, the very thing these pundits insist we do more of to win again, lol.
No Republican presidential candidate was going to win this year. Let's not rewrite Conservatism based on one outlier election. If Obama ruins the country over the next 4 years, as I suspect he will, the pendulum will swing our way once again. It will be up to our elected officials to keep it. If they govern as Democrats, they won't keep it long.
So according to cbs we
November 14, 2008 - 16:52 ET by smoto66So according to cbs we should become democrats light no thanks!Weve tried that or eight years and weve lost seats every election.As a party we need to get back our roots in the style of Reagan as Palin is we need more like her not less
Republicans taking policital advice from the MSM...
November 14, 2008 - 21:12 ET by Iowa Boy...would be like taking a prescription from Dr. Jack Kevorkian.
When Republicans move to the left, they loose elections. Witness nearly every "moderate" Republican on Election Night. Plus, right now Senantors Norm Coleman and Saxby Chambliss are fighting for their seats because of close margins. Why? They're moderates!
When Republicans move right [and what follows is the MOST important part of this formula] and GOVERN from the right, they win by large, enormous, immense, humongous stupid-wide margins.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
CBS: Should GOP ‘Broaden Appeal’ Beyond ‘Palin-Style Conservatis
November 15, 2008 - 00:39 ET by MoosebusterSure thing, CBS. We'll get right on that...
Aw shucks! It sure does
November 15, 2008 - 01:25 ET by SvenAw shucks! It sure does make me feel warm and fuzzy to know our good friends at CBS want us to succeed! What a load of Shite!
Hey CBS, in case you hadn't noticed, our candiate John McRino lost bigtime by trying to move to the middle!
"The party itself is split on whether to embrace Palin-style conservatism or broaden its appeal."
No CBS, we conservatives are NOT split! The only ones who are split are RINOS like McCain and Lindsey Graham!
Folks, the actions of CBS and those on the left tell me one very big thing: They are terrified about 2010 & 2012! The elections over, and they're still talking about Palin (the Wasila Hillbilly)! The left has PDS bad!
Hey CBS and all you libs, we conservatives are coming with a vegence these next two elections!
None of the stories here or elsewhere touch on ...
November 15, 2008 - 03:02 ET by Writing from Alaskawhat is really important about Sarah Palin. Is she a good governor? Never has Alaska felt so remotely removed from the rest of the country as it has since Palin was chosen as McCain's running mate. We have some serious problems here that she has yet to address. We need a new budget with a deadline coming up, we have a crisis in rural Alaska with people abandoning their homes and moving into the cities because of fuel costs and other problems. And what do we hear of our governor's activities? She is on national TV on an almost daily basis, but nothing is in the news here or elsewhere about what she is or isn't doing in Alaska. None of the accomplishments she has been hailed for have yet really come to fruition. She has yet to truly prove herself. And, yes, even to us, her way of speaking has become nonsensical. I don't recall her using so many disconnected sentence fragments before she hit the campaign trail. I plan to make it a point to do some research on past interviews, but it seems it would have stood out before now.
And all the media, here and elsewhere can talk about, is whether or not somebody is picking on her, whether or not she bought all those clothes, etc. WHO CARES!!! We are a real place, with real people, real problems and the need for focused work from our governor's office - does anybody plan to take the time to look at her real performance as a governor - or just wait to see if she shows up on Desperate Housewives or Dancing with the Stars? Grow up America. Please.
Writing from Alaska
She is on national TV on
November 15, 2008 - 05:09 ET by Jack BauerOh gee, and it's not like she's been running for frackin' VP, or anything, which would be a good reason why she's been on NATIONAL TV since August.
Oh -- and seeeing she can obviously control the media, I do agree it has been very remiss of her not to make sure they didn't become obsessed with her clothes, and instead to make them do a million stories on the problems of Alaska.
Thank you for your incredibly rational and fair comments about Governor Palin and the media.
Sorry you missed the point...
November 15, 2008 - 06:18 ET by Writing from Alaskawhich is - that she isn't doing much about the real issues in Alaska. Instead she has been doing interviews with lots of national press and talking about the criticisms leveled against her in the campaign or answering questions about what she might be doing in 2012. We have people suffering in Alaska, today, right now and she is essentially missing in action. So, yes, in this case, she is the one driving the discussion to continue talking about issues irrelevant to the governance of the state.
It really would take too much space here to try to explain any of the complexities of Alaska, but it is not an attack to point out that she hasn't finished her term as governor and, as I said before, lots of her work is only partially finished at best and we won't know if she was a good governor for some time to come. It would be a cause for concern if someone actually considers such an obvious fact to be an attack of any kind. It is just the truth.
If people are so blinded by who they hope she can be for the Republican Party and the conservatives, to see what her real capacities may or may not be, they are setting themselves up for another round of severe disappointment. I am very confident that there are others much better suited to provide the real leadership that the conservative movement needs and deserves. And we all do need a healthy and vibrant conservative movement in order to continue the dialogue necessary to move our country forward in a balanced and constructive manner.
Writing from Alaska
According to the MSM......
November 15, 2008 - 06:43 ET by old croThings are tough all over. It is not true
conservative thought if you think a governor can alleviate suffering.
PS
November 15, 2008 - 06:24 ET by Writing from AlaskaThe press coverage issue is not directed all at Gov. Palin, it is an omission of the press not to concern themselves with the strengths or weaknesses of her administration. Also, the point is also more about the press since the election has been over - and the issues here are pressing. If she was addressing them, it would be visible in our local press.
Writing from Alaska
In your mind, what are the
November 15, 2008 - 10:41 ET by dscottIn your mind, what are the issues Palin is not addressing?Come up with specifics otherwise your criticism is not valid because it smacks of lib whining. I smell a trumped up charge, i.e. more baseless liberal assertions.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Specifically -
November 16, 2008 - 02:20 ET by Writing from AlaskaAlaska Native organizations are working on coming up with some long term solutions for the EXTREMELY high costs for rural communities, energy and all other necessities. Though energy costs have fallen a lot lately, the villages in Alaska had to buy their fuel months ago when it was the most expensive so they are stuck with those prices all winter. It was actually one of their suggestions that people would receive energy relief, which was the idea that Palin then claimed as her own and distributed $1200 to everyone in the state. (I know they suggested it, and have also heard that it was also an idea of someone in the state legislature before Palin claimed it as her own) This gave rural residents money to move into cities, but did nothing to work toward long term solutions. It is almost impossible to explain the adjustment for someone from a rural village who has moved to the city. But if you don't know about or care about other cultures, maybe you think that is not important. The result of the migration? Increase of pressure for services in the cities - big increase in school enrollments, hiring of many more teachers in Anchorage and a big jump in costs that were not anticipated in this year's budget - while rural schools, which already have small enrollments may be forced to close. But depending on what kind of 'conservative' you are, you may think this is fine - survival of the fittest or something. But the mayor of Anchorage (yes the one who may be going to the Senate in place of Ted Stevens) and the superintendent of the Anchorage schools, and the Alaska Federation of Natives have all asked the governor to be involved with more immediate steps to help with what is becoming a widespread crisis. Palin hasn't done much of anything. The Native organizatio even went so far as to express their disappointment in a resolution, and I have never seen them be so direct in their criticism of any elected official. They are not a radical group by any means.
If it was the governor of California who was 'recovering' from an election, could you justify it if he spent his time doing a bunch of big time interviews while Southern California is burning? Or would you expect him to put the national politics aside and deal with the crisis in his own state?
I am interested in dialoguing, too, but I have a full time job, and two part time jobs plus other activities, church and otherwise, so really can't respond on a regular basis. I just really, really hope you will keep your eyes open and look for someone with more substance, less vindictiveness toward those who do not agree with her, and someone who has the capacity to really reach beyond her own circle of friends and acquaintances when making appointments or hiring for government jobs. Not an attack, just facts. really.
Writing from Alaska
W F A, so as I distill your
November 16, 2008 - 10:08 ET by dscottW F A, so as I distill your post, your concern is the high price of home heating fuel for the winter that rural communities had to buy for the upcoming winter. Firstly, the purchase of consumer goods is not the responsibility of government and therefore it is not subject to rebate or some other government reimbursement. Having said that, your dissatisfaction should be with Congress due to the drilling ban all these years driving up energy prices in the name of environmentalism and alternative energy. The problem of high fuel prices could have been avoided all together were it not for the incompetence of Congress. While you may not like my first part of government not getting involved, surely you can see the problem here with government meddling in the economy causing high prices. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
As a conservative I believe in consequences, without those consequences there is no real reason to make other choices. You have a choice, vote for those who insist government be involved which includes meddling versus a government that minds its own business and doesn't meddle in the affairs of others. Your choice, Nanny State or basic governance.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Writing
November 15, 2008 - 11:02 ET by NorthCoasterWe all have concerns with our leaders. Governer Palin is still in recovery mode from the National election. The unfortunate aspect of the MSM coverage during this cycle has been that they spent more time with tabloid style attacks on Sarah, than on really reporting news. Much of her current focus is on proving to the rest of the country that She and Alaskans aren't just stupid rubes. You have a front row seat as a resident. Please continue to contribute to the conversation.
Thank you -
November 16, 2008 - 02:33 ET by Writing from AlaskaFor your comments, but nothing she has said or done so far has made me feel that she is convincing anybody of anything important about Alaska - Before she started campaigning, she wasn't my favorite person, but I thought she had some strengths and was impressed with where she seemed to be going with some important issues here - but her behavior on the campaign trail is not something Alaskans are necessarily proud of, on the contrary, to some of us she really seemed like a different person, and now she seems to like her new persona. And, just to be clear, their were problems surfacing here that were not resolved before she took off to campaign, so it is not surprising that her popularity here has fallen considerably over what it was in August, before her VP run. Her popularity rating, at last tally, was still high at about 60%, but that is more than a twenty point drop in a short amount of time. I am pretty sure it is going to keep dropping, but we will see.
The whole point is that she is not being evaluated on her real record in Alaska, and that the real issues of Alaska are not being considered - there is always just on a quick summary with a focus on the high points of Palin's 'record'. I am just asking that people step back a little bit, and use some perspective.
Writing from Alaska
WfA...I did long ago,
November 16, 2008 - 03:15 ET by bigtimerWfA...
I did long ago, said so back then, got into trouble with a few back then, was glad to see the great feelings with the consevative side when we were all in the doldrums about McC, who had no spark, liked her speech she gave the day she was named, glad to see the shock and awe in the msm, then angered to see how she was treated in the msm because they feared her and still do, but she is a centrist, she isn't all that much different than McC, she got where she is by using both parties, stabbing Repubs in the back, loving the dems who loved her back to a big extent....on and on it goes...I have stated this before by saying how do you think she got where she is to some, politics is a blood sport, she is no dummy...
My final decision, for both of us here, were her own words, not McC's about her views on illegal immigration, which I have heard more than once...since the election...
When Andrea Tantoros, a reub strategist, who loves Sarah, says she is a Centrist herself live on Fox ect...she is.
I want a conservative...and illegal immigration is destroying this nation.
Period.
I also lived in Ak for nine years or so, my husband worked on the slope years ago, before I knew him, relatives still do, we still have friends there, I still know to a point what is and has been going on...nice to have your input...still want to know more about exactly what native tribes you are talking about that have been speaking out and moving to the cities...ect...the natives also get monthly checks too, no matter where they live, or they did last I remember, could be wrong.
...got to get for the night, check back later.
Btw...I would like to know your position on illegal immigration, I also would imagine you enjoy the Permanent Fund Dividend...are you in Anchorage, also are you involved in politics or any Union/environmental group?
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BT,
November 16, 2008 - 03:38 ET by RESTLESS 1If you can provide some links on Palin's stance on illegal immigrtation before the campaign, I would appreciate it. Apparently, I am not the only one who can't find concrete proof one way or the other.
As I told Clear Thinker the other day, I am researching this, but I live in Texas, and she is Gov. of Alaska. I'm not sure she has had as much "up close and personal" on the issue as I have.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
R1...there weren't any
November 16, 2008 - 04:08 ET by bigtimerR1...there weren't any links before the election, I also searched high and low and posted as such back then, although about 10 days to a week or so before the election she took the same stance as McC on an interview with Greta I think it was, and one other place, just can't recall where... by then nothing would of mattered to me anyway, I feared O so much, plus what the msm did viciously to Palin made me puke, of course I voted the ticket...but since then I have heard other sound-bites and her views on amnesty ect are not any different than McC's.
I looked for those exact sound bites back then, believe me, I could not find them, I know what I heard, my husband did too, we were both disappointed, him far more than me.
Here are a few links, but it isn't what I was looking for at the time...just take it how you will.
One here... ..... another here.... and this by Tantaros...I still wished I would of had the interview live with Martha McCullum (I think) with Andrea Tantaros, anyway, the bottom lines say it all, she is a centrist...this may be okay for some, not me, not anymore.
We have four years, a lot can change, even with her views to win...who knows...all I know is I want a fire in the belly real conservative...if I m here on earth then, even if I'm not, I hope that is what happens so I cans smile from above.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
And there lies the problem BT
November 16, 2008 - 04:19 ET by RESTLESS 1She is probably right in that it is not feasible to round up all 12-20 million illegals at once and deport them, (not that I'm against trying).
What I want to know is how hard will she hit businesses that hire them? What will she do to curb the "under the table payments" that make it so easy for illegals to live here? Will she take away education and health care priveleges from illegals? These are the questions that are unanswered. In all fairness to Palin, she probably has not seen a lot this in Alaska. She does, however, need to get educated on the realities of the border states, and make a stand.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I agree R1...although the
November 16, 2008 - 04:45 ET by bigtimerI agree R1...although the interviews we heard since the election she feels that we need to help the people who are here now, (illegals), just like her talking about abortion, we have to find common ground, I am pro abortion and want less and less abortions, and some who are pro abortion who want less abortion, some in my family too...it is always the common ground, we can reach out and meet each other and agree, that is why I get along with so many of my dem counterparts...ect ect ect...
have you really listened to her interviews, what she is really saying in depth, she is a centrist, both sides of the aisle...
Btw..what really bristled my feathers more than anything was her saying, repeatedly in different places... President Bush's blunders with the war...blah blah blah...I didn't like it one bit, he had enough with all of the msm, his political foes, including McC adn other RINOs in the Senate, and him distancing himself from Bush as much as possible, no, I've had my fill of these types of politicians, I'm not going to argue with anyone about this, I have my opinion, I did long ago about certain situations regarding Palin way before she was elected ...so, to each their own, others can learn as they go too, do their own research and listen with sharp ears to what is really said.
I cannot believe it is 2:30 in the morning...I have got to get to bed, I won't make my political shows in the morning....lol!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
More on Alaska -
November 17, 2008 - 02:39 ET by Writing from AlaskaTo whoever was asking about Alaska Natives - some receive payments from their corporations - Natives in Alaska were organized into corps instead of having reservations - odd but true. Some are very succesful, others not so much. I believe these come generally on an annual basis, not monthly as someone else mentioned. The request of the Alaska Native organization I mentioned in a previous post was for a statewide energy plan, something I believe we are lacking. So no one is expecting the government to alleviate suffering, and I think perhaps having several families cramming into one tiny house in a village to avoid freezing to death might qualify, but some things, like energy policy, need to be addressed Alaskans are asking - why is Alaska paying more for gas at the pump than any other state, since we are a producer? (this is under investigation) Why are many of the Native communities, who are generally acknowledged as owners of much of the state's resources, on the bottom of the 'totem pole' to use a rather culturally insensitive metaphor, when it comes to benefitting from the state's resources? And they are, by agreements made at the time of statehood, only fifty years ago, supposed to have some benefits.
And I would like to point out, anybody can pick apart what I or others write, if that is what the reader chooses to do - the question is, but will you take the time to find out for yourself beyond just a reactionary response to some flaw you can find in what I am writing? Will you take the time to really evaluate what is going on here in Alaska, how it reflects on the governor and consider those things rather than making your decisions to support her based on the belief that she is a hero because she seems to be getting a raw deal from MSM? - please check it out for yourself and go beyond the headlines, since that seems to be what this website is supposed to be about.
The next few months will be interesting, this will be the first time since she has held an executive office that there is a budget shortfall, rather than a surplus. Both in Wasila and in the state, Palin has governed places with good revenues, first due to a sales tax initiated by the former mayor in Wasila and what was until recently a high oil revenues for the state.
Someone asked about unions - all the info I can share is that the ex. dir. of the Public Safety workers union spoke publicly about Palin's refusal to meet with him about cuts she made to services, ones that cut back, for example on safety officers in rural villages. (Lack of these basic services is another reason noted for the rural migration into the cities) Some places have no law enforcement at all, or depend on state patrol officers who must fly in to help out if needed, since much of rural Alaska is not on the road system. It is my understanding that our state troopers are inadequately funded and underequipped to do their jobs effectively. Alaska, incidentally has a pretty high crime rate and has the highest rate of reported forcible rapes in the US. These do not seem to be issues that Gov. Palin has been interested in addressing.
Thanks for reading my posts though I can't join in on the chorus of sympathy for Palin. I agree the news outlets should deal with her appearance on the national scene differently, but in the end, my opinion is that if they looked at our state with some degree of understanding and interest, the conclusions about the Palin administration might well be even less favorable.
Oh- by the way - one of the things that caused great resentment here was McCain staffers who were here trying to run interference on Troopergate, etc. How would you feel if when you called a state office, for information about things going on in your state, you were referred to a campaign staffer who doesn't work for the state, wasn't elected or appointed to be involved in your state's operations? It happened here, I doubt if it would have happened anywhere else in the country. Just one of the problems with being in a remote location - nobody else even noticed.
Thanks for reading - if this keeps up I am going to have to resume my blog. ;o)
Writing from Alaska
PS in answer to other questions - not a member of any enviornmental group, member of a union at work, and have no specific position on illegal immigration, except to say that I am fairly certain, that perhaps like slavery did at one time, it probably contributes to our economy in a variety of ways we are not aware of, some of which has a positive net value for the economy as a whole - I doubt if most of the jobs done by illegal immigrants would be available if not filled by illegal immigrants - and doubt if most people already here would want to do them.
And another suggestion, If you want to get some more insight on Alaska and important issues here, you might look for news items on Senator Lisa Murkowski. She is a Republican, and works VERY HARD for the people of Alaska. She is great - check her out. At first folks weren't so sure about her being in the Senate, since her father appointed her to his seat after he become the governor. But she has worked so hard, Alaskans voted her back in during the last election, she really earned her place. If you want to look for a conservative hero from Alaska - I recommend Lisa Murkowski. She isn't as glamorous and razzle dazzle as SP, but she is a real Alaskan through and through with a great deal of integrity and grit.