At the top of Thursday’s CBS Early Show, co-host Maggie Rodriguez claimed that Joe Wurzelbacher, the Ohio plumber who criticized Obama’s tax policy, was upset that McCain mentioned him in Wednesday’s debate: "This is the small businessman first mentioned by John McCain, but then referenced repeatedly by both candidates. I had a chance to speak with Joe after the debate and he told me he did not like being mentioned, he feels like he is being used by the Republican Party as a pawn to make their point..." Despite that assertion, Rodriguez never offered any audio, video, or even a direct quote of Wurzelbacher saying any such thing.
However, in the same sentence, Rodriguez did admit: "...at the same time, he said since he has been thrust into this, he wants America to know that he absolutely disagrees with Senator Obama's tax plan. He says it punishes him for making more money and he even called it Marxist." In the report by correspondent Jeff Glor that followed, such criticism of Obama was backed up as audio of Wurzelbacher talking to Evening News anchor Katie Couric was played: "You know, I've always wanted to ask one of these guys a question and really corner them and get them to answer a question for once, instead of tap dancing around it. And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance. He [Barack Obama] was almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr."
Following Glor’s report, co-host Harry Smith talked to Jennifer Boresz, a reporter for the local CBS affiliate in Toledo, Ohio, about her interview with Wurzelbacher. In that discussion, Wurzelbacher explained that he was glad that his concerns were mentioned during the debate: "I'm just glad I could be used to get some points across. You know, hopefully it makes some other Americans go out and really look into the issues and find out for themselves... Your opinion's not given to by your union steward, your opinion's not given to you by MTV. You know, you really got to find out facts." Again, Rodriguez offered no supporting direct statement from Wurzelbacher to back up her assertion that he felt like a Republican "pawn."
On a separate note, in his report on the debate, Jeff Glor once again downplayed the extremism of domestic terrorist Bill Ayers: "For the first time face-to-face McCain brought up the current education professor and former anti-war radical Bill Ayers." On October 7, Glor described Ayers as a "once radical anti-war advocate." These descriptions of Ayers ignore the fact that in 2001 he explained: "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough," or that in 2006 he gave an interview to a Communist publication and ardently defended radical professor Ward Churchill, who compared victims of the September 11th attacks to Nazis.
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
7:00AM TEASE:
BARACK OBAMA: What you are proposing is eight more years of the same thing.
JOHN MCCAIN: Senator Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should've run four years ago.
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: The final face-off. McCain and Obama clash over the economy, character, and Joe, the plumber.
MCCAIN: What you want to do to Joe, the plumber, and millions more like him, is have their taxes increased and not be able to realize the American dream.
7:01AM TEASE:
RODRIGUEZ: Another man who got a lot of attention was Joe, the plumber. This is the small businessman first mentioned by John McCain, but then referenced repeatedly by both candidates. I had a chance to speak with Joe after the debate and he told me he did not like being mentioned, he feels like he is being used by the Republican Party as a pawn to make their point, but, at the same time, he said since he has been thrust into this, he wants America to know that he absolutely disagrees with Senator Obama's tax plan. He says it punishes him for making more money and he even called it Marxist.
7:03AM SEGMENT:
MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: The final and most spirited debate so far. Early Show correspondent Jeff Glor is in Hempstead, New York, where the face-off was held. Good morning, Jeff.
JEFF GLOR: Hey Maggie, good morning to you. This was a lively debate, to say the least. Just three people sitting around a table, maybe forgiven for thinking at times that it was four. If the first two debates were dull, the third was a thriller by comparison.
JOHN MCCAIN: Senator Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should've run four years ago.
GLOR: John McCain's strategy was to distance himself from President Bush and tie himself to Joe the plumber.
MCCAIN: You were going to put him in a higher tax bracket, which was going to increase his taxes.
GLOR: The suddenly famous Joe Wurzelbacher, the Ohio man who began a lively neighborhood discussion with Barack Obama on Sunday, got mentioned 26 times. Compared to the economy, 16 times, and Iraq, just 6. McCain tried to use Joe to show Obama would raise taxes.
OBAMA: And I'm happy to talk to you, Joe, too, if you're out there.
GLOR: Obama seemed happy to engage.
OBAMA: What I've said is I want to provide a tax cut for 95% of working Americans.
GLOR: Both men were asked about the flurry of attack ads airing in battleground states.
OBAMA: A hundred percent, John, of your ads, a hundred percent of them have been negative.
MCCAIN: It's not true.
OBAMA: It absolutely is true.
MCCAIN: You're running ads that mis-portray completely my position on immigration.
GLOR: For the first time face-to-face McCain brought up the current education professor and former anti-war radical Bill Ayers.
MCCAIN: We need to know the full extent of that relationship.
OBAMA: He has never been involved in this campaign and he will not advise me in the White House, so that's Mr. Ayers.
GLOR: The candidates went back and forth like we've never seen them before, McCain staying aggressive, did not hide his frustration. Obama often smiled in response. There were serious substantive discussions of things like abortion, health care, and also climate change, but none of these issues got mentioned as much as Joe Wurzelbacher and after the debate, Katie Couric spoke with him on the phone.
KATIE COURIC: Could you just, Joe, explain quickly and then we'll let you go, how you met both of the candidates?
JOE WURZELBACHER: I've yet to meet John McCain. Obama came to my neighborhood. My son and I were outside tossing the football and all of a sudden he showed up and there went our football tossing for a while. And you know, neighbors were outside asking him questions and I don't think they were asking him tough enough questions, so I thought, you know, I'll go over there. You know, I've always wanted to ask one of these guys a question and really corner them and get them to answer a question for once, instead of tap dancing around it. And unfortunately I asked the question but I still got a tap dance. He was almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr.
GLOR: When it was over with, CBS News took an insta-poll of how people thought, these are uncommitted voters. These were the results: 53% said Barack Obama won the face-off, 22% said it was John McCain, 25% said it was a tie. When asked whose policies would raise taxes, half said McCain's would and 64% said that Obama's would. Maggie, let's toss it back to you in the studio.
RODRIGUEZ: Alright Jeff. And Joe the plumber added to me, by the way, that he hopes his fame will prompt people to do their homework before voting. Now here's Harry.
HARRY SMITH: Yeah, well Joe Wurzelbacher is no doubt the most famous plumber in the country this morning. Jennifer Boresz of our Toledo, Ohio station WTOL, joins us with more on that. Good morning, Jennifer.
JENNIFER BORESZ: Good morning, Harry. I'm standing right now in front of the home of Joe Wurzelbacher, also known now by people across the country as Joe the plumber. Now I'm in Holland, Ohio, which is right outside of Toledo. It's normally a very quiet neighborhood, quiet community, but the past week there's been a lot of excitement here. Now Joe first voiced his concerns to Barack Obama on Sunday, when he came through town. It was about his middle class tax policy. Now that's something that I don't believe has ever happened here before in Holland, to have a presidential candidate come through town. And he said last night he never expected to be at the center of this presidential debate and he said he was just surprised to hear his name on national TV. We had a chance to talk to him right after. Here's what he had to say.
WURZELBACHER: I'm just glad I could be used to get some points across. You know, hopefully it makes some other Americans go out and really look into the issues and find out for themselves. If you don't go out and find out your own information you can't really sit there and give a good argument. I mean, you can't express your own opinion. I mean, that's what makes it, you know, your own opinion, is you went out, you read about it, you learned about it, and then you have your own opinion. Your opinion's not given to by your union steward, your opinion's not given to you by MTV. You know, you really got to find out facts.
BORESZ: And here's something that's pretty interesting. Joe the plumber was mentioned 26 times throughout that debate. The economy only mentioned 16 times. And Iraq only 6. I'm reporting live in Holland, Jennifer Boresz, Harry, back to you.
SMITH: Alright Jennifer, thank you very, very much.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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Cindy Sheehan
October 16, 2008 - 11:31 ET by allanfWhat was Cindy Sheehan?
Exactly allanf, Sheehan was this before
October 16, 2008 - 11:37 ET by Gary HallExactly allanf, Sheehan was this before she became the media's pawn:
Bush shown kissing Cindy in family pix
..meet with Bush "again." "Again" was the word, the MSM just could not find.
A grieving mother
October 16, 2008 - 12:10 ET by 10ksnookerSee, I have it down, you obviously are lacking some nuance.
What is the difference between a friend of David Duke and a friend of Rev Wright? Would you vote for a friend of Rev Wright?
What is Olbermann, Maddow
October 16, 2008 - 12:51 ET by kgWhat is Olbermann, Maddow or Stephanopoulos? Dan Rather?
"Forget change, I want improvement!"
Joe's a pawn? What about the 106 yr old Nun?
October 16, 2008 - 11:32 ET by Gary HallJoe's a pawn? What about the 106 yr old Nun? Seems that the CBS Evening News found time to highlight her - so did ABC. Speaking of ABC - they have that little show, where all across America, they dig up hapless pawns to express their devotion and support for all things Obama, and to express gloom and doom about Bush and McCain. Just ask Mayor Brown of Rome, NY. (;~/ gary
Pawn or no pawn...
October 16, 2008 - 11:34 ET by ksimm81His concerns are still valid.
And this is off the subject, but I can't understand, for the life of me, how true, born-again Christians can possibly support Barack Obama with a clean conscience.
Stand by for the racism angle
October 16, 2008 - 11:39 ET by SickofLibs"And in the darkest days, a Plumber shall arise from the ashes."
Joe said "(Obama) was almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr."
Stand by for the racism angle.
Yes Sick!!!!
October 16, 2008 - 11:53 ET by HillbillyKingI had the EXACT same thought when I read that.
I give it, ummmmm, bout 48 hours before the "racist" assault begins.
I mean, hey, Joe is white, relatively rich, and thinks Barry is a Socialist, so he HAS to be a Kard Karryin Klan member, right?
God Bless Joe for having the gumption to speak his mind. He seems like a strong enough person to weather any MSM racist storm that may come his way.
GO JOE!!!
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Liberal Tactic #3
October 16, 2008 - 11:38 ET by LionKingLet's not address the issue raised by Joe the Plumber. Instead, let's talk about the possibility that he is a Republican plant.
Question to the Liberal Media: Does Joe have a valid point or not? Is what Obama is saying not the very essence of socialism?
For once, try and stay on topic and quit creating the news.
Barakkk Hussein Obama - pawn
October 16, 2008 - 11:42 ET by mattmBarakkk Hussein Obama - pawn of the Marxist-Leninist Trotskyite Leftist terrorist 1960's hippie radical anti-America movement and their media enablers.
The MSM is following the JOE phenom . . they didn't Create him
October 16, 2008 - 11:47 ET by JayTeeThe MSM isn't controling or Creating the Joe Story . . . and if They attack Joe . . .the backlash will wipe the MSM FROM THE AIRWAYS . . . Joe is Toxic . . keepa you hands OFF.
JOE is WHY obama did NOT WANT TOWNHALLS . BHO can't CONTROL them. . . Too many JOEs ! !
The Republican Revolution will not be Televised
Just wait.
October 16, 2008 - 11:54 ET by mizflame98The MSM & Obama camp will try to dig up some dirt on Joe so they can say that he's a fraud. They'll look at if he has any debts, if he has a record, millitary discharge, even traffic tickets. That team of lawyers that was sent to AK will be heading to OH to dig around in Joe's trash can. Wait and see.
“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula? I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”
B.H. Obama
Plumber's crack has Obama cheerleaders flush with anger.
October 16, 2008 - 11:56 ET by CrashIf only Joe had given Barrack a bracelet to exploit ... that would be A-okay.
"Plumbers crack"
October 16, 2008 - 11:58 ET by HillbillyKingHA! Good one crash.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Yes great joke...
October 16, 2008 - 12:20 ET by MexNobama...but the MSM are not laughing about Joe the Plumber.
They are afraid enough of a populist back lash against Obama that they are trying to make this guy smaller than he is, and perhaps they will attack him, "vet" him and connect him to some sort of raicist group.
On the other hand are they not worried about that white blue collar vote in Battleground states? An attack on Joe the Plumber could lose some of that undecided Obama vote.
Today's Realclear polls showed a range of a 4% to 8% Obama lead, smaller than over the past week. They only to judge the effectiveness of Joe the Plumber is to watch those polls.
If they narrow then McCain may still have a shot.
Remember that the MSM is saying that anything between a 2% to 4% Obama lead could be jaded by the "Bradley Factor" (rural racism) and may mean an Obama loss.
I am not making any predictions but clearly this thing isn't over yet.
Joe and Sammy
October 16, 2008 - 11:59 ET by DanimalHang on for the "Joe is a racisit" mantra all over the MSM. Personally, I don't see a resemblance with BHO and Sammy. Doesn't BHO have two good eyes?
Danimal...
October 16, 2008 - 12:03 ET by mizflame98Sammy had better vision. Obama is blinded by the glow of his own ego.
“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula? I mean, they’re charging a lot of money for this stuff.”
B.H. Obama
Are we allowed to say....
October 16, 2008 - 12:07 ET by szampAre we allowed to say that anyone is Pawn of the dems party without being called a racist or hate monger?
I believe not. Therefore just ignore similar comments from commies.
That depends on whether you
October 16, 2008 - 12:10 ET by cocodrieThat depends on whether you call them a black pawn or a white pawn.
Joe thinks for himself.
October 16, 2008 - 12:12 ET by HillbillyKingI am shocked that the manufactured opinion outlets allowed this part of Joe's interview to air;
If you don't go out and find out your own information you can't really
sit there and give a good argument. I mean, you can't express your own
opinion. I mean, that's what makes it, you know, your own opinion, is
you went out, you read about it, you learned about it, and then you
have your own opinion. Your opinion's not given to by your union
steward, your opinion's not given to you by MTV. You know, you really
got to find out facts. (e.m)
WHAT!!!! Joe, how dare you tell people to think for themselves. That is blasphemy, you heretic!
Joe is double damned in the MSMs eyes now. First, he slandered the Husseinnator. Now he claims that Americans need too form their own opinions and not spew the manufactured ones the media purveys.
Get ready Joe, "pawn" is only the beginning of the vitriolic slander that will be slung your way. My money is on racist to be next.
GO JOE!!!
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Joe reminds me of this little boy...
October 16, 2008 - 12:38 ET by vrwc13An emperor who cares too much about clothes hires two swindlers who promise him the finest suit of clothes from the most beautiful cloth. This cloth, they tell him, is invisible to anyone who was either stupid or unfit for his position. The Emperor cannot see the (non-existent) cloth, but pretends that he can for fear of appearing stupid; his ministers do the same. When the swindlers report that the suit is finished, they dress him in mime. The Emperor then goes on a procession through the capital showing off his new "clothes". During the course of the procession, a small child cries out, "But he has nothing on!" The crowd realizes the child is telling the truth. The Emperor, however, holds his head high and continues the procession.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor's_New_Clothes
Possible re-write:
"The One" who cares too much about socialism hires two handlers who promise him the finest set of talking points. These points, they tell him, are obvious to anyone unless they either stupid or unfit for his position. "The One" pretends that the talking points are right for fear of appearing stupid; his supporters do the same. When the handlers report that the talking points are ready, "The One" then goes on a procession through the country showing off his new "points". During the course of the procession, a plumber cries out, "But this is nothing but socialism!" The crowd realizes the plumber is telling the truth. "The One", however, holds his head high and continues the procession.
v
Somebody needs to explain
October 16, 2008 - 12:54 ET by BaxterJSomebody needs to explain progressive taxation to Joe the P.
I remember Maggie saying
October 16, 2008 - 13:08 ET by winston smithI remember Maggie saying in an interview once that she could never understand why so many Cubans become Republicans or was amazed that there are so many Cuban Republicans (She is of Cuban decent and a rabid Democrat lib) - I forget the exact quote. But there you have it --- yet another blatanly biased liberal media anchor who, in addition, has no concept of history.
You can't
October 16, 2008 - 13:50 ET by NorthCoasterYou can't even have an opinion and the Obama apologists want to stifle your free speach.
Welcome to Obamaland the Socialist Utopia.
"We know what you don't understand and we'll teach you how to reply to our questions. When that doesn't work we'll train your children to inform on you, you stupid little things."
election aftermath
October 16, 2008 - 14:47 ET by Mr XI know this is a bit off topic, but I would like to get some feedback.
Is anyone else concerned at all about the possible aftermath of this election , if HoBama loses, I mean the prospect of rioting seems to me to almost be a no brainer.Even if Hobama wins I see a very likely scenario were it will not be pretty, I mean some these crowds destroy their own neighborhoods because of losing a basketball game.
anyone else here thinking about this?
I am glad I don't live near a city.Yikes!
Here's the ticket I really want to see......
October 16, 2008 - 14:47 ET by riff_raff......Palin and plumber '08.
riff... You are not
October 16, 2008 - 14:58 ET by bigtimerriff...
You are not alone....
...If only!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Maggie Rodriguez has the hots for Joe the Plumber
October 16, 2008 - 14:46 ET by Lame CherryAs I have pointed out in Joy Behar trolling for Rush Limbaugh and is spurning her so she moved onto Sean Hannity, this is but another Hot for Hannity Syndrome, but this time it is Maggie Rodriquez hot for Joe the Plumber.
It just burns these liberal women up, because there is the big dirty secret little Maggie keeps and this is it.
Maggie thinks she is too good for American males. She then has plumbing problems (no not gyno) and calls up Joe.
Joe is a happily married guy and Maggie thinks she will do the bend over of the blouse, touch him close rubbing her boob on his arm while he explains she can't put tuna cans down the deposer and Joe simply ignores the feather brain.
This infuriates Maggie as she expects all men to drool over her like Bill Clinton over a plumper Monica.
So she decides to "punish him" in the next time she calls the plumber and shows up wearing a robe to punish him.........but then hears him talking on the phone about the disgusting tart coming onto him.
Maggie has been pulling this penis tease all her life. Everyone here knows it. They know these women who pull this garbage to get by and then throw a fit when men notice them with their skanky Joy Behar cleavage smashed into their faces.
Gentlemen know these females just like a Lady can spot a Barack Obama 10 miles away for the player he is.
The difference is Obama just trolls about and moves on, but these women like Dowd go berzerk over Sarah Palin who is real and always has real male friends who like her for her and aren't trying anything perverted.
Rodriguez though holds her petty grudge about the Conservative guy who laughed at her and now she is venting on Joe the Plumber, because Joe wouldn't have a thing to do for the tart Rodriguez is.
Face it Rodriguez like all liberal media women are shallow, they want attention and that is why Katie Couric last night looked like a painted doll with more paste on her face than sheetrock and more eye shadow than Cleopatra.
Real men know what these tarts are and when having a beer laugh at them before they move onto more pressing subjects like Cleveland actually creamed the Giants.
God bless Joe the Plumber and I hope he votes for McCain Palin for his business future.
One last remark, who is the guy in the picture you know you could trust, Joe the Plumber, Maggie Rodriguez, Harry Smith or Barry Obama?
America knows it is Joe.
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Joe, yea!
October 16, 2008 - 14:52 ET by upcountrywaterJoe the Plumber on Patriotism and Common Sense!!!
CLIMATE CRISIS
IranianUranium
You mean DC elitist Maggie
October 16, 2008 - 14:56 ET by Jack BauerYou mean DC elitist Maggie wants working class hero Mellors... I mean Joe... to lay some pipe on her?
Gosh -- this is like an American Lady Chatterley's Lover!
i do not know about him
October 16, 2008 - 15:09 ET by patmac49i do not know about him being a pawn,but he is related in some way to that dude keating of the keating 5 guys...i know john mccain had absolutly no wrongdoing in that mess and his name should not be connected to that,but he was a friend of keating and maybe that is why joe the plumber was there... who knows..
2012
October 16, 2008 - 18:06 ET by ToddonCapeCodPalin/Wurzelbacher, 2012
"I'm just glad I could be
October 16, 2008 - 18:15 ET by TN Mom"I'm just glad I could be used to get some points across. You know, hopefully it makes some other Americans go out and really look into the issues and find out for themselves": Joe the Plumber
If the media would take their heads out of obama's butt and report the actual facts...guess it's not CBS fault; probably dark & smelly up in there!
I did my research and I'm voiting for McCain/Palin!!
Washington DC needs Joe the Plumber!