CBS: McCain ‘Backed Into A Corner’ on Gramm Comments

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John McCain and Phil Gramm, CBS On Friday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith introduced a segment on comments by John McCain economic adviser Phil Gramm: "Let's talk about the economy now. Number one on voters' minds. Senator John McCain has been backed into a corner by a key economic adviser and forced to disavow some controversial statements." A report by correspondent Bill Plante followed in which he declared: "After spending the past week trying to convince voters that he does feel their pain, McCain was forced into full damage control after his economic adviser appeared to mock the troubles faced by many Americans."

Plante went on to quote Gramm’s "controversial" comments: "Gramm questioned the true extent of the country's economic downturn, saying, 'you've heard of mental depression. This is a mental recession. We have sort of become a nation of whiners, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline.'" In reality, Gramm’s assertion that America is not in a real recession is completely accurate, as a recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative economic growth and there has yet to be even one quarter of negative growth.

As far as Gramm’s "nation of whiners" comment, the "Early Show" would certainly know about that given its own recent whining about the economy. On June 30 Smith talked to economic analyst Mark Zandi and the two of them declared a recession. On June 24, co-host Julie Chen proclaimed a "perfect storm of economic woes" afflicting the nation.

Meanwhile on Friday’s show, Plante concluded his report by explaining: "Gramm said that he'd only been talking about the nation's leaders. But the comment played right into the Democrats charge that Republicans are a bunch of plutocrats who don't care about the average voter." Following Plante’s report, Smith talked to political analyst Jeff Greenfield, who made a similar observation about "plutocratic" Republicans:

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Well, okay you're in the suburb of Detroit. An area with 10% unemployment. You're trying to show that as -- even though you're a Republican, but you're not a conventional stereotype Republican, you feel the pain, to coin a phrase, of the workers. And your top economic adviser is calling the country a 'nation of whiners,' saying it's all in your head. Phil Gramm is a long-time free market deregulator guy, and that's not the message McCain is trying to communicate.

Smith then decided to bring up another comment made by a McCain economic advisor:

SMITH: It's interesting because we're in a summer of surrogates, and one of McCain's other surrogates, Carly Fiorina, who, of course, was the CEO of Hewlett-Packard and is another one of his important economic advisers, has been shooting from the lip and you know, sort of running off the cuff. And there was this whole controversy about what she had to say about whether or not insurance companies – would pay – let's look at a bite, and then we'll come back and talk about it.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: I guess her statement was that it was unfair that health insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. Do you have an opinion on that?

MCCAIN: I don't know enough about it to give you a informed answer.

After Smith laughed at McCain’s awkward reaction to the comment, Greenfield proclaimed: "If you're the oldest candidate ever to run for president, the late night comedians are hammering one thing about you: you're old, you're out of touch. That's not how you want to be seen on television...it's not a message you want to communicate given the fact that you're being looked at through a perhaps unfair prism of the oldest candidate ever."

At the end of the segment, Smith asked Greenfield about Jesse Jackson’s controversial comments about Obama earlier in the week. Greenfield described how great it was for Obama: "I think it vastly helps Obama...And he's trying to say, 'look, I'm not the black candidate. I'm out of a different generation, I have a different message.' Jesse Jackson helped him make that message far better than Obama could."

Here is the full transcript of Friday’s segment:

7:00AM TEASER

JOHN MCCAIN: Phil Gramm does not speak for me. I speak for me.

BARACK OBAMA: America already has one Dr. Phil. We don't need another one when it comes to the economy.

HARRY SMITH: Political showdown over the economic slowdown. John McCain speaks out against the adviser who called America a 'Nation of Whiners.'

7:0AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: First let's talk about important stuff. Let's talk about the economy now. Number one on voters' minds. Senator John McCain has been backed into a corner by a key economic adviser and forced to disavow some controversial statements. CBS News senior White House correspondent Bill Plante has more on that this morning. Good morning, Bill.

BILL PLANTE: Good morning, Harry. Senator Phil Gramm, former Senator, a key economist, key adviser to John McCain. But when he seemed to be blowing off people who were worried about the economy as a bunch of whiners, it's something the McCain campaign didn't need, and the candidate was blunt in his response.

JOHN MCCAIN: Phil Gramm does not speak for me. I speak for me.

PLANTE: After spending the past week trying to convince voters that he does feel their pain, McCain was forced into full damage control after his economic adviser appeared to mock the troubles faced by many Americans. In an interview with the Washington Times, Gramm questioned the true extent of the country's economic downturn, saying, 'you've heard of mental depression. This is a mental recession. We have sort of become a nation of whiners, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline.' Barack Obama wasted no time in responding.

BARACK OBAMA: America already has one Dr. Phil. We don't need another one.

PLANTE: Gramm said that he'd only been talking about the nation's leaders. But the comment played right into the Democrats charge that Republicans are a bunch of plutocrats who don't care about the average voter. And McCain, when he was asked about a position for Gramm in his administration, Gramm has often been mentioned as a treasury secretary, said, 'well, maybe he's a candidate for Ambassador to Belarus.' Belarus is a former Soviet republic which is still repressive. Harry.

SMITH: [Laughing] Yeah, and McCain went on to say that he wasn't sure the people of Minsk would be happy about it either.

PLANTE: Right.

SMITH: There you go. Bill Plante at the White House this morning, thank you very much. Joining us is CBS News chief political analyst Jeff Greenfield.

JEFF GREENFIELD: Good morning.

SMITH: You're John McCain, and you bring somebody into your fold like a Phil Gramm, serious heavyweight, long-time service in the Senate, supposedly on the money in terms of the economy. He says stuff like this. What -- how does that rub up against your campaign?

GREENFIELD: Well, okay you're in the suburb of Detroit. An area with 10% unemployment. You're trying to show that as -- even though you're a Republican, but you're not a conventional stereotype Republican, you feel the pain, to coin a phrase, of the workers. And your top economic adviser is calling the country a 'nation of whiners,' saying it's all in your head. Phil Gramm is a long-time free market deregulator guy, and that's not the message McCain is trying to communicate. It steps on a message on the very week when McCain is out there trying to say 'on the economy, I'm with the regular ordinary hurting folk.' Not helpful.

SMITH: Yeah. It's interesting because we're in a summer of surrogates, and one of McCain's other surrogates, Carly Fiorina, who, of course, was the CEO of Hewlett-Packard and is another one of his important economic advisers, has been shooting from the lip and you know, sort of running off the cuff. And there was this whole controversy about what she had to say about whether or not insurance companies-

GREENFIELD: Whether healthcare-

SMITH: -would pay -- let's look at a bite, and then we'll come back and talk about it.

GREENFIELD: Okay.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: I guess her statement was that it was unfair that health insurance companies cover Viagra but not birth control. Do you have an opinion on that?

MCCAIN: I don't know enough about it to give you a informed answer.

SMITH: [Laughter]

GREENFIELD: See, Harry, here's why I'm the chief political analyst or whatever you call me. If you're the oldest candidate ever to run for president, the late night comedians are hammering one thing about you: you're old, you're out of touch. That's not how you want to be seen on television. It may be unfair. The other thing about this is he's trying to appeal to women. He's going out to talk to women today. The idea that women may want birth control paid for by health insurance.

SMITH: Right.

GREENFIELD: That's also something that some of the Republican base, particularly if it's unmarried women, are not all happy about. It again, it's not a message you want to communicate given the fact that you're being looked at through a perhaps unfair prism of the oldest candidate ever.

SMITH: Let's go back over to the Democratic side. We have this whole dust-up with the comments Jesse Jackson made off mic about Barack Obama.

GREENFIELD: They were sort of on mic, and he didn't know it.

SMITH: Yeah, well there's no such thing as the mic never being on. And how could you possibly not know that? At the same time, who does that help? Who does it hurt? Does it matter?

GREENFIELD: I think in this case the conventional wisdom is right. I think it vastly helps Obama. He is trying to say to the country. He's not a familiar guy, he's the first African-American nominee or will be. And he's trying to say, 'look, I'm not the black candidate. I'm out of a different generation, I have a different message.' Jesse Jackson helped him make that message far better than Obama could.

SMITH: Jeff Greenfield, do appreciate it, good to see you. Thanks for-

GREENFIELD: I'm going to wait on line for a phone for twelve hours because I have no life.

SMITH: [Laughter] Do appreciate it.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Harry the Hack...

I'd love to get Harry the Hack into a corner with Bathtub Boy.

Drill ANWAR

finally - some damn schedenfreud

finally - some damn schedenfreud to cheer up the party of hate:)!

hey everybody, didn't Mc look like such a doofus?!?! yay! high five! big hug!

McLame needs to grow a set

Instead of cowering down (again), he should have taken the offensive. We are NOT in a recession. We might be in an economic slow down, but Gramm is right, we are not in a recession, The only recession we are in is a mental one produced by the MSM.

 Why can't we get a candidate with a set?????

I think Jesse got to McCain

and removed them along with the ones from the RNC.

"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain

that's our repub

that's our repub champ

thanks rnc

What Corner

Gramm, who is an econ major speaks the truth.

We are not in a ression unless we change the deffinition!

McCain was right when he said economics was not his strong suit.

Neither is thinking before he speaks!

We are not in a ression

We are not in a ression unless we change the deffinition!

Right. Two quarters of negative growth equals a recession. We haven't had one yet...although granted, growth is sluggish. So I guess "sluggish economy and rising prices" now define a recession.

This is a lot like flu season when everyone who comes down with a cold says he has the flu. It gets more sympathy. Also, your employer is more understanding if you stay home with the flu, rather than with a cold.

Shoot 'em all; let God sort 'em out! - Marge Simpson

all depends on who is in the WH

Definition of recession changes. If Repubs in WH, 'slow down' equals recession; if Dems in, then definition goes back to what it always has been.

We just have no Republicans willing to stand up and point out the stupidity of the Dems.....

ARGHHH - it is so frustrating!!!

edit

if dems are in then recession, energy crisis, and double-digit inflation is NOBEL PRIZE WINNING MATERIAL!

google "jummuh cahtah"

def'n of recession

NBER, the CFA Institue and others don't follow the "2 quarters.." definition of recession. and who actually looks retrospectively to decide if an recession occured? NBER.

So we don't have the change the definition, we just need to wait.

"and who actually looks

"and who actually looks retrospectively to decide if an recession occured?"

Oh, I don't know, historians and economists for one. Unless you are a medium, that's the only way to actually tell if a recession occured, you can't tell if something recessed if you don't have the figures yet, duh! If the CFA Insititue and "others" defined "baboon" as a "fat-free sandwich made in Japan" would you believe that too?

Your basic ignorance on economics astounds me.

my ignorance?

an official recession is determined by the NBER...that is the "who" i was referring to. NBER is made up of people(like economists) who look back and determine if a recession happens. they don't use the "2 quarters..." def'n, that's all i was saying. its just that the geniuses who post here love that definition so much because it fits their argument of "bush/conservative control hasn't destroyed the economy, we're not even in a recession!"

personally the economy can't be blamed on any party or president, too many factors that they don't control affect the economy.

what do you have against the CFA? couldn't pass level I or something like that?

How I wish John McCain would

How I wish John McCain would come out and defend Phil Gramm's "mental recession" comments.

Everyone knows that the nation has just been collectively afflicted with mental illness!  We're all just imagining that the price of a gallon of gas is $4.50 a gallon, that the record number of foreclosures is OUR fault and that the increased price of groceries--well that is just plain untrue. This is all just in our heads.  It's mental illness. None of it has happened at all...has happened at all...has happened at all...

  

Start imagining gas at $10

Start imagining gas at $10 a gallon.

That's what it's going to be if the no-domestic drill Democrats rule the Executive and the Legislature.

NO NUCLEAR. NO DRILLING. NO COAL. NO FUTURE.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

You forgot one thing.  No

You forgot one thing.  No electric cars.

Goldtwit, the electricity for electric cars...

...does not materialize out of thin air. I has to be generated somehow.

Go ahead, convert about 5% of the cars now on the road nation-wide to 100% electric power.

Then, sit back and watch what happens when, the very next day, these people all come home from work and plug in at about the same time.

Seriously, you appear to have the linear intellectual ability of a six year-old.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD...

About 5 minutes ago I replied to geoff about a guy in california that got into a wreck with his battery powered car. He paid over $12,000 dollars for cleanup and removal.

How's that for a towing charge??? 

45 Communist Goals for America http://www.nationmakers.com/com_goals.htm

Ct,

LOL-Thank God he didn't bust one of these in his own garage. They might have thrown the poor bastard into the slammer.  :-O

BTW, Did the guy's insurance company pick up the tab for the cleanup?

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

First off, the record

First off, the record number of foreclosures is our fault as it is a result of bad decision making, gas in my area is 4.04 not 4.50 (seems like you picked up the MSM's media of using the worst figure possible) and the increased price of groceries is hardly crippling if you know where to look.

The mental recession is people acting like this economy is one the worst ever, whining about having to tighten their belt while they can still afford to spend their money on gambling, ball games and eating out and demanding government bailouts instead of making their own decisions and being smart.

You and the media do suffer from mental illness, instead of seeing tough times you see apocolyapse, with bread lines, millions of people suddenly starving and massive sucides. That is all in your head and has not happened at all...at all...

 

 

Who Wudda' thunk?

"...Democrats charge that Republicans are a bunch of plutocrats who don't care about the average voter."

So we are to believe that all of those billionaire president makers Obama shmoozed for dough at the Sara and Sohaib Abbasi luncheon in Atherton, Nancy and Bob Farese's get together in Kentfield in mid-afternoon and the grande finale at Ann and Gordon Getty's in San Francisco on April 6, 2008 were in fact closet Republican plutocrats?  This bitter, clinger did not know that.  

Shoe on other foot - Obama backed into a corner

shoe on other foot - Obama backed into a corner, by Rev. Jackson's comments?

Can't wait to CBS present that one.

Goldie there us no recession

Goldie there us no recession by the classic definition. But, there is inflation and gas and prices reflect this. This was typed on my iPhone, so it is brief

So I guess that means McCain

So I guess that means McCain should come out and correct his economic advisor by saying "Phil Gramm 'got confused'. Our nation's economy is suffering 'mental inflation' rather than 'recession'."  Yeah, that sounds more on target. Even better would be to have Joe Lieberman come out to make the correction. Thanks.

You prove our point, why

You prove our point, why don't you stop crying like a baby, toughen up and do something positive instead of annoying everyone with your crocodile tears.

 

This is a VERY unfortunate and instructive occurance...

Unfortunate because McCain is being raked over the coals because an adviser spoke the truth, which the liberals and the MSM do not want to admit to.

Instructive because it shows that McCain is not knowledgeable enough about the economy and is reacting to Obama and the MSM as if Graham made a mistake. It also shows that he is not willing to support and/or defend an adviser who tells the truth and is attacked because of it.  He is basically throwing Phil Graham under the bus because he is reacting to false outrage from the liberal camp. This is not someone whom I would be comfortable with being the President of the US.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic. Let's get it back! Alan Keyes '08.

 McCain aggravates the hell

 McCain aggravates the hell out of me! Instead of embracing what Gramm said and running with it, he distances himself from it. It's a winning strategy. It would show leadership. In effect he'd be saying--"quit your whinning, get back to work, thank God every single day of the year that you live in the United States of America you ungrateful lunkheads".  That I am sure would rattle some cages.

if only we had a candidate...

that would do that!!!!

When the going gets tough,

  1. When the going gets tough, the media exploits it.
  2. Would anyone be complaining if the price of gas has stayed close to where it was in January? Of course not. But that price has much more to do with China than us, so any complaining is literally useless.
    1. One caveat: had we gotten off dependence on foreign oil by now, we woudn't be so affected by China and India. But that would mean more domestic drilling, more nuclear, i.e., all the things the Democrats prevent.
    2. And when we try to get the ball rolling on developing those abilities, the Democrat response is that it won't have any immediate impact. Postponing a fix doesn't fix anything.
    3. Rather than proposing a long-term solution that has short-term side-effects, the Democrats prefer a short-term solution that will bring long-term side effects.
    4. So tell us, Obama ... who is the future?
  3. The other major economic problem is the mortgage implosion. But that's where reckless lenders lent too much to sucker buyers. The appropriate market response is to let them both fail and suffer the penalty for being reckless or suckers.
    1. Instead, we have Democrats (for instance, the increasingly insufferable EJ Dionne) taking the side of the suckers. They basically admit that their constituents can't read contracts. They demand that we regulate the lenders. In their mind, government exists to protect suckers from their stupidity.
    2. Now, amazingly, we have Republicans who want to bail out the lenders. In their mind, government exists to protect risk-takers from any risk.

We've been reduced to Casey Stengel: Can't anyone here play this game???

If McCain does his usuall apology routine, he is finished...

...in the eyes of conservatives.

-That is, the few who were actually still considering voting for him.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

RD, he already is

what a pathetic shame for the Republicans to essentially say, "vote for McCain because he's not quite as bad as Obama."  Many conservatives, like myself, have never even considered voting for McCain.  He kissed the liberals butts for all these years...let's see how many of them vote for him.  Live by the amnesty, die by the amnesty.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

jeff place clothes pin on nose

pull that lever, have a drink first

barak-barak will GUT all the people that Bush installed.

Think Travel gate SQUARED.

Liberals62%


IranianUranium

Upcountry, are you sure McCain wouldn't?

Who's to say that McCain wouldn't also gut Bush's people?  Take your poison all at once or a little at a time.  I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two.

I don't know if there's enough for me to drink to make me vote for a Democrat.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

jeff,

I don't know if there's enough for me to drink to make me vote for a Democrat.

LOL-Me neither, but come election day, I am probably going to find out. :-)

Hate to state the obvious here, particularly among those of us who actually "get it," but we're seriously f*cked regardless of who wins in November.

The truth is insensitive. - Neal Boortz

yea Guys...tUsDaY nOvEmBeR 4, 2008

that's the day...

maybe Matt will have live chat....

Liberals62%


IranianUranium

I don't think they've done

I don't think they've done a chat in months. They missed the last few primaries . . .

Love how the media act like

Love how the media act like how some of this new...for instance I don't remember when Detriot *hasn't* had high unemployment.

And I hate cherry picking, if I said Hoboken only had 07.% employment and that meant the economy was th best of all time, they'd laugh.