CBS’s Smith Claims ‘Coffers Are Not Full,’ Need More Taxes

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On Monday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith talked to John McCain supporter Carly Fiorina and Barack Obama supporter Senator Claire McCaskill about the respective economic plans of the presidential candidates: "Bear market blues. Wall Street returns from the holiday as gas prices set another new record. Can either candidate calm America's fears?" At one point, Smith asked Fiorina: "How do we do all of this stuff? And we're not making more money, the tax rolls are not growing, the coffers are not full. We're just talking about deficit -- if nobody's going to get taxed, isn't this just going to be deficit city?" (audio available here)

While Smith did not feel the "coffers" were "full," at least not full enough for him, in reality, government tax revenue has tripled since 1965 and since the Bush tax cuts took effect in 2003, corporate income tax revenue has reached its highest level in over 20 years.

Smith began the segment by touting a new CBS poll: "The economy remains a major issue for voters as we head into the fall elections. In fact, a recent CBS News poll shows 78% of Americans think the economy is in bad shape." Considering the "Early Show’s" declaration of a recession last week it’s easy to understand such poll results.

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Harry Smith and Carly Fiorina, CBS Earlier in Monday’s segment, McCaskill explained Obama’s commitment to helping the middle class: "Instead of tax policies that George Bush and John McCain support, which were all about the few, the powerful, the wealthy, his plan is all about middle-class families, Harry. Their ability to pay for things-" Smith then interjected: "He has guaranteed that he will not raise taxes for anyone who makes less than $250,000. Can he guarantee that unequivocally?" McCaskill replied: "Absolutely. And that means no capital gains taxes, so that help for small business is there for anyone under $250,000. No more taxes. No tax hikes for anyone."

Smith then asked Fiorina about how the "coffers are not full," however, his final question to McCaskill was not nearly as critical: "Senator McCaskill, a final word, Barack Obama, he rolls out his plan this week. What's the big takeaway?" That softball gave McCaskill the opportunity to declare: "The big takeaway is he needs John McCain to step up, help him sponsor another stimulus package right now. Right now. It's $50 billion, that's just two months in Iraq, Harry, two months in Iraq. And we can do more right now to help families that are really struggling just to pay to get to work every day."

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

7:00AM TEASER:

HARRY SMITH: Bear market blues. Wall Street returns from the holiday as gas prices set another new record. Can either candidate calm America's fears?

7:02AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: First, the long holiday weekend is over, Wall Street gets back to work with a market now in bear territory. Deirdre Bolton of Bloomberg Television joins us. Good morning, Deirdre.

DEIRDRE BOLTON: Good morning, Harry. Hot and gloomy that's not just the weather it is the market forecast for July too. The Dow, as you mentioned, in a bear market, so that means it's fallen 20% from its most recent high back in October 2007. Last week's losses, they completed the longest streak of weekly declines in four year's time. So record energy prices that's certainly one component, one reason for the gloom. Right now, oil is moving lower in overseas trade but it's all relative, prices still above $142 a barrel. Now some traders say the next big mark is $150 a barrel and it's not going to take that long to get there. If you were on the road this Fourth of July weekend you already noticed how much more expensive it was to pay for gas. Prices are at a record $4.11 per gallon, that is a new national average. Another factor contributing to the negative market sentiment, people are really worried about holding on to their jobs. Employers cut jobs for the sixth straight month in a row in June. So the question out there, are there any bright spots? Well, stocks are getting so cheap that some strategists say it is time to buy. They predict the S&P 500 will be up around 18% by January 2009. But if history is any guide, it's a little ambitious, the last time the markets were this low, 2001, it took nine months to get back on track. So, Harry, it seems like cautious optimism is still the best kind, at least for the moment.

SMITH: Very, very cautious optimism. Deirdre Bolton, as always, thanks so much from Bloomberg TV. The economy remains a major issue for voters as we head into the fall elections. In fact, a recent CBS News poll shows 78% of Americans think the economy is in bad shape. So both candidates are headed out on the campaign trail this morning to stress their economic plans. Joining us from Arlington, Virginia is Carly Fiorina, an economic advisor to Senator John McCain. And from St. Louis, Senator Claire McCaskill of Missouri, a supporter of Barack Obama. Good morning to you both.

CLAIRE MCCASKILL: Good morning.

CARLY FIORINA: Good morning, Harry.

SMITH: Carly, let me start with you. Tell me one thing, the one thing you can guarantee John McCain is going to do the first day he takes office that will have an important and dramatic effect on the economy?

CARLY FIORINA: Make it easier for small businesses to hire and grow. And that's critical because small business is the one place in the economy that is still adding jobs. About 400,000 people have lost their jobs so far this year. But in that same period small business has created 233,000 jobs. In fact, small business is the engine of growth in this economy. It produces about 70% of the jobs. And so everything that John McCain is focused on in terms of tax policy, in terms of making sure that energy costs are under control is very much focused on helping small businesses grow and hire.

SMITH: Alright. Let's go to Claire McCaskill. The one thing Barack Obama will do on day one that will help Americans from coast to coast with their pocketbooks?

CLAIRE MCCASKILL: He will go to Congress and begin working in a bipartisan fashion to change our tax code to help out the middle class. Instead of tax policies that George Bush and John McCain support, which were all about the few, the powerful, the wealthy, his plan is all about middle-class families, Harry. Their ability to pay for things-

SMITH: He has guaranteed that he will not raise taxes for anyone who makes less than $250,000. Can he guarantee that unequivocally?

MCCASKILL: Absolutely. And that means no capital gains taxes, so that help for small business is there for anyone under $250,000. No more taxes. No tax hikes for anyone. In addition to that, a $1,000 tax relief for middle-class families. No taxes for seniors that make 50,000 or less.

SMITH: Yeah.

MCCASKILL: We're talking about changing the tax code to help out those who need it instead of those very few at the top.

SMITH: Alright. Carly, let me ask you this. How do we do all of this stuff? And we're not making more money, the tax rolls are not growing, the coffers are not full. We're just talking about deficit -- if nobody's going to get taxed, isn't this just going to be deficit city?

FIORINA: Well, first I must say I'm a little confused by Senator McCaskill's comments because Barack Obama has actually promised that he will double the capital gains tax, just as an example, from 15% to 30%. But let me just say that John McCain is very clear, that part of what has to happen here is not simply that we not tax America. And there's only one candidate who promises not to raise taxes. That's John McCain. But we also have to reduce the size of government spending. The government spending has grown 60% in the last seven years. Government spending is out of control. And so we must bring that back into control without a doubt.

SMITH: Senator McCaskill, a final word, Barack Obama, he rolls out his plan this week. What's the big takeaway?

MCCASKILL: The big takeaway is he needs John McCain to step up, help him sponsor another stimulus package right now. Right now. It's $50 billion, that's just two months in Iraq, Harry, two months in Iraq. And we can do more right now to help families that are really struggling just to pay to get to work every day.

SMITH: It sure is going to be an interesting week. Carly Fiorina, thank you so much. Senator Claire McCaskill, appreciate it.

FIORINA: You're welcome.

SMITH: You bet.

MCCASKILL: Thank you.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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Brilliant idea, Harry. 

Brilliant idea, Harry.  Tax investors out of the market so that no income is generated to tax.  I knew they didn't just hire you for your distinguished good looks.

"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan

fitzfong.blogspot.com

Smith's answer is: "more

Smith's answer is: "more taxes"

What's the question?

"What's the question?"

Possible answers:

"How do we restore the Carter years?"

"How can we destroy freedom and prosperity in the United States?"

"How can we keep 40 year olds living with their parents?"

"How can we keep the welfare industry booming?"

Deficit City, Harry Smith?

Harry, you need to go back home to Stupidville!

Once again, the way to more governmental receipts is to cut taxes.  Oh, it also helps us taxpaying commoners to lower governmental spending.

If 78% of the American people believe we're in an economic downturn it is because of $4 gasoline which is directly attributable to Democratic policies.  Now if only the wussyboy Republicans were able to understand this and take advantage.  But that would be mean! Ooooh.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

"Now if only the wussyboy

"Now if only the wussyboy Republicans were able to understand this and take advantage."

Jeff,

It's stunning that any politician could be so oblivious to what they should be doing. It's liked someone has flipped the switch on their brains to "OFF".

Chris, it is beyond belief

that the Republican party can be this pathetic!  What has happened to those people?  Do they not read emails?  Do they not wonder why their contributions have fallen?  Do they not monitor conservative blogsites? 

I read today on townhall.com an article by Robert Novak that a large conservative group in California wrote the Republican party telling them that it will send no more contributions until there is a wholesale change of leadership in the Republican party.  The article also stated that this club is also contacting other Republican clubs asking them to take the same position.  I hope that this idea will grow rapidly across the country.  The Republican party lost me a long time ago.

Jeff Lebowski

www.angrywhitedude.c...

The GOP has caught the

The GOP has caught the disease of "cluelessitis" and it will prove fatal to them.

McNotObama '08

And we're not making more

And we're not making more money, the tax rolls are not growing, the coffers are not full. We're just talking about deficit -- if nobody's going to get taxed, isn't this just going to be deficit city?

 

1.  The government is not supposed to be a "money making" organization, Harry, it is our money, not the government's.

2.  The tax rolls do grow when taxes remain low.  Undisputable, backed up every time it has been done.

3.  Alot of people are taxed severely in this country.  Perhaps Harry should consider spending as the problem not taxes.  Txaes are not the solution.  He is either stupid, hard headed, or so naive that he just buys into whatever the DNC feeds him. 

 

Oh, sure I believe him, Harry

"He has guaranteed that he will not raise taxes for anyone who makes less than $250,000. Can he guarantee that unequivocally?" McCaskill replied: "Absolutely."

The part McCaskill left out was "Absolutely... until elected."

Federal Corporate IncomeTax Revenue

Another look at the numbers. I suspect it is safe to suggest that most voters have been kept in the dark (land of the mushrooms) here - by the MSM. (;~> gary 

Federal Corporate Income Tax Revenue - In millions of $'s  

1992 - 100,270
1993 - 117,520 - Clinton seated (during a recovery).

[..]

2000 - 207,289
2001 - 151,075 - Bush seated (during a historic crash).
2002 - 148,044
2003 - 131,778 - Bush tax cuts are in place.
2004 - 189,371   Re
2005 - 278,282         cov
2006 - 353,915                er
2007 - 370,243                      y  

Corporate tax revenues soared 155% in 4 years following the Bush tax cuts.

Government Deficits vs Household Deficits

I love it when politicians spend pork and add earmarks to every piece of legislation costing taxpayers endless amounts of money, and then they squawk when the cash flow gets a little tight.  And then they take advantage of the poor for political gain by claiming righteous indignation that the poor will suffer for the lack of government funds.  Of course those funds are blocked by cold corporate greed among the Republicans.  Republicans have a lot to learn from Democrat style politics.

I used to hold out hope that our country would recognize that the wealth of our nation comes about through a free and healthy economy, not a massive government.  Ronald Reagan gave me that hope.  But Bush Sr and Bush Jr have dashed that kind of thinking to pieces.   And it has opened the door to people like John McCain who is quasi-liberal.

Two words, Harry!

CUT SPENDING!

Harry Can Help

You know Harry is free to help. The IRS will take his check.

The big takeaway

McCaskill:  "The big takeaway is he [Obama] needs John McCain to step up, help him sponsor
another stimulus package right now. Right now. It's $50 billion, that's
just two months in Iraq, Harry, two months in Iraq. And we can do more
right now to help families that are really struggling just to pay to
get to work every day."

It'll never happen.  That would require Obama to spend time away from the presidential campaign to be a senator.

And Harry, never ask a politician about "The Big Takeaway".  She'll think you mean raising taxes.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Lead by example

Mr. Smith, no one is stopping you from writing a check payable to the U.S. Treasury. 

Come on, Harry.  Lead by example! 

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.