On Monday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith talked about Hillary Clinton dropping out of the presidential race with liberal blogger Arianna Huffington and former Democratic Congresswoman Pat Schroeder, who commented on sexism during the campaign: "It troubles me a lot what we saw. It was like they made a witch out of her [Hillary Clinton], some people. You know we thought the Salem witch trials were over. But some people, no matter what she said, it was 'don't believe it. She's really evil.' This is -- I've never seen anyone do that to a candidate." [audio available here]
That comment was sparked by Smith asking about Clinton: "Did she -- did she get a fair shake? Smith followed by telling Schroeder: "Talk to me from your gut." The former Congresswoman needed no encouragement:
I'm telling you I feel there's a tremendous amount of sexism still out there. And this is not a society that deals with sexism. You know, racism, we now recognize and we all stand up. Anti-Semitism, the same thing. Good for us. That's wonderful...But the sexism that we saw in some of the media really troubled me. And we didn't have party leaders standing up. You know, If you're the woman and you stand up and say, 'Wait a minute I believe that's sexist.'...Then everybody says, 'oh, there they go. They're whining, they can't take it.' And I really think we have a lot of ground to cover on sexism.
Smith asked Huffington about the sexism question quoting from Clinton’s Saturday concession speech: "‘18 million cracks in this glass ceiling,’ is your sense the glass ceiling is about to be ultimately broken?" Huffington agreed with Schroder: "Oh, it will definitely be broken. You know, we broke one ceiling with the nomination of Barack Obama and, as Pat said, there is residual sexism, there is residual racism."
Huffington went on to add how Clinton had "transformed" herself and Smith agreed:
HUFFINGTON: ...also what is amazing is the way she was herself transformed through the campaign.
SMITH: Right.
HUFFINGTON: She's now the keeper of the Clinton brand. And she has changed the Clinton brand. It's much more popular and --
SMITH: Absolutely. Because she started as a celebrity candidate. She transcended that, by the end she was her own person.
This segment is not the first time that Smith has shown his feminist streak, as he did when he welcomed Katie Couric to CBS: "This is one old CBS hand who can't wait till she starts. Couric, for my money, is the best live television interviewer, period...And as for a woman as the solo network anchor? What took them so long?"
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
7:08AM SEGMENT:
HARRY SMITH: Over the weekend, Hillary Clinton officially suspended her presidential campaign, endorsing former rival Barack Obama and uttering these historic words:
HILLARY CLINTON: When we first started, people everywhere asked the same questions, could a woman really serve as commander in chief? Well, I think we answered that one. To those who are disappointed that we couldn't go all the way, especially the young people who put so much into this campaign, it would break my heart if in falling short of my goal, I in any way discouraged any of you from pursuing yours. Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. And when you stumble, keep faith. And when you're knocked down, get right back up and never listen to anyone who says you can't or shouldn't go on. Although we weren't able to shatter that highest, hardest glass ceiling this time, thanks to you, it's got about 18 million cracks in it.
SMITH: Joining us now, Pat Schroeder, former congresswoman from Colorado, herself a one-time presidential hopeful. And Arianna Huffington, co-founder and editor in chief of the Huffington Post. Good morning to you both.
PAT SCHROEDER: Good morning.
ARIANNA HUFFINGTON: Good morning.
SMITH: Congresswoman, I can't help but remember first meeting you in the '70s when you were working for the Equal Rights Amendment back in those days.
SCHROEDER: Yes. Which still hasn't passed but --
SMITH: And yourself a presidential hopeful. I can't help but wonder what you were thinking when you listened to Hillary's speech on Saturday?
SCHROEDER: Oh, I thought it was a brilliant speech. It was a wonderful speech. And the wonderful thing about it was she encouraged everybody to keep trying, you know, 'Let's make this a celebration and let's say we moved the ball down the field, we didn't quite get over the goal line, but that's okay.' It's turned out to be much more evolutionary than revolutionary, let me say, this whole women's movement.
SMITH: Right, right.
SCHROEDER: But as you know, I was the one who said the White House was the ultimate treehouse with the big "no girls allowed" on it and --
SMITH: Do you think they can take the sign down?
SCHROEDER: No, not yet.
SMITH: Not yet. Arianna Huffington, what did you think about Saturday's speech?
HUFFINGTON: I thought it was an incredibly powerful message for all women and the next generation of young women and young men. Because the thing that stops people from fulfilling their dreams, pursuing their dreams is the fear of failure. And Hillary Clinton dealt with that head on during her speech when she said 'don't play the game of might have beens.' You know, 'every moment,' she said, 'wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.' The stakes are too high. And that is like a very powerful message which I want to have framed, put on my desk, and give to my teenage daughters.
SMITH: Did she -- did she get a fair shake, Pat Schroeder?
SCHROEDER: Oh, my goodness. Well I really--
SMITH: Talk to me from your gut, not from --
SCHROEDER: I'm talking to you from my gut, I'm telling you I feel there's a tremendous amount of sexism still out there. And this is not a society that deals with sexism. You know, racism, we now recognize and we all stand up. Anti-Semitism, the same thing. Good for us. That's wonderful.
SMITH: Right.
SCHROEDER: But the sexism that we saw in some of the media really troubled me. And we didn't have party leaders standing up. You know, If you're the woman and you stand up and say, 'Wait a minute I believe that's sexist.'
SMITH: Right.
SCHROEDER: Then everybody says, 'oh, there they go. They're whining, they can't take it.' And I really think we have a lot of ground to cover on sexism. It troubles me a lot what we saw. It was like they made a witch out of her, some people. You know we thought the Salem witch trials were over. But some people, no matter what she said, it was 'don't believe it. She's really evil.' This is -- I've never seen anyone do that to a candidate.
SMITH: Arianna Huffington, '18 million cracks in this glass ceiling,' is your sense the glass ceiling is about to be ultimately broken?
HUFFINGTON: Oh, it will definitely be broken. You know, we broke one ceiling with the nomination of Barack Obama and, as Pat said, there is residual sexism, there is residual racism. But it was clear that in Hillary Clinton's case this is a game changing defeat, both for the people who are going to follow her for the next generation, and also what is amazing is the way she was herself transformed through the campaign.
SMITH: Right.
HUFFINGTON: She's now the keeper of the Clinton brand. And she has changed the Clinton brand. It's much more popular and --
SMITH: Absolutely. Because she started as a celebrity candidate. She transcended that, by the end she was her own person.
SCHROEDER: She is her own person and Bill is the tail of the kite.
SMITH: Yeah.
SCHROEDER: Which is really an interesting thing, isn't it.
SMITH: Arianna Huffington, Pat Schroeder, great to see you both. Thank you very much for being with us this morning.
SCHROEDER: Thank you.
HUFFINGTON: Thank you.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.















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ok are we reliving the
June 9, 2008 - 12:19 ET by TruthMongerok are we reliving the 60's? or the 1600's...?
Schroeder should be more
June 9, 2008 - 12:26 ET by SickofLibsSchroeder should be more clear: this tremendous amount of sexism she is referring to in this case IS 100% DEMOCRATS, the supposed Party of Inclusion!
YES!
June 9, 2008 - 17:41 ET by DEVILDOCMOMI would like to say to pat schroeder that this is her beloved media and the media of the dims she is criticizing INCLUDING harry smith.
You know we thought the
June 9, 2008 - 12:26 ET by fitzfongYou know we thought the Salem witch trials were over.
Well, since neither you nor Hillary have drowned yet, you thought wrong.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
Well, since neither you nor Hillary have drowned yet, you...
June 9, 2008 - 12:46 ET by Prester John...thought wrong.
Ouch.
Witches are supposed to be
June 9, 2008 - 14:49 ET by Tim the EnchanterWitches are supposed to be burned, not drowned! As in...
"We have found a witch, may we burn her?
If my memory serves me
June 9, 2008 - 15:18 ET by fitzfongIf my memory serves me correctly (sorry, been watching a lot of Iron Chef lately)...suspected witches were subjected to any of a number of "proof tests". From my recollection of history, one test had to do with restaining and submerging a suspected witch...if she didn't drown, she was deemed a witch and was executed.
"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it." -Ronald Reagan
but the test to see
June 9, 2008 - 15:55 ET by red_dragon311Tim's is must better then mine see below
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
Pat Schroeder and her blather
June 10, 2008 - 00:42 ET by Dr. Ron2 words for you, Pat...tail hook...and the ruination of many naval aviators and even a decorated hero. Always some victimhood and some grasping for power via "feminism."
Maybe he thinks he's living
June 9, 2008 - 12:40 ET by ckc1227Maybe she thinks she's living here:
"Witches' burnt to death in Kenya"
careful - those aren't
June 9, 2008 - 14:19 ET by TruthMongercareful - those aren't mooslims:)
Build a bridge out of her!
June 9, 2008 - 12:53 ET by mattmBuild a bridge out of her!
Sir Bedevere: But can you
June 9, 2008 - 14:51 ET by Tim the EnchanterSir Bedevere:
But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1:
Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere:
Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1:
No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere:
No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1:
Bread.
Peasant 2:
Apples.
Peasant 3:
Very small rocks.
Peasant 1:
Cider.
Peasant 2:
Gravy.
Peasant 3:
Cherries.
Peasant 1:
Mud.
Peasant 2:
Churches.
Peasant 3:
Lead! Lead!
King Arthur:
A Duck.
Sir Bedevere:
...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1:
If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere:
And therefore...
Peasant 2:
...A witch!
I KNEW i shouldn;t have
June 9, 2008 - 15:52 ET by red_dragon311I KNEW i shouldn;t have posted what i did look above
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.
-Gerald Ford
LOL
June 9, 2008 - 16:20 ET by ThermistoclesI checked the video but I did not see a false nose on that witch.
More like the Salem 3itch Trial
June 9, 2008 - 12:56 ET by wizardjrBecause even the lefties didn't want that female, it MUST be sexism. Yeah. Sure.
How about the rejection of Condi Rice by the lefties? Is that sexism, or is it racism?
AND...
this is the left spitting on the left. Too sweet for words.
Identity and class issues
June 10, 2008 - 07:59 ET by needle"How about the rejection of Condi Rice by the lefties? Is that sexism, or is it racism?"
No, that is resenting genuine competence.
Don’t you know that politics is strictly supposed to be about identity and class issues?!?
Impunitas semper ad deteriora invitat.
I'm Shocked, Shocked I tell you !
June 9, 2008 - 13:02 ET by socal4patrickIt is unheard of when the press treats a democrat like a republican. Lets get back to praising Obama and attacking McCain, the way it should be.
"If you want to save the world you must be willing to make others sacrifice" ....Dogbert the green consultant
Sexism and Racism
June 9, 2008 - 13:08 ET by ChuckM from PAIf you don't vote for Hillary, you must be a sexist...
If you don't vote for Barack, you must be a racist...
These kinds of stupid statements make me sick. What ever happened to, "I didn't vote for her/him because I don't agree with their politics?"
It's Hillary that people didn't like, not women. It's Barack that people won't like, not African Americans. I can think of lots of women and African Americans and women African Americans that I would rather see as President than those two.
Maybe McCain should make an African American woman as his VP, then I wouldn't have to be worried about being called a sexist or racist if I decide to vote for him.
What ever happened to, "I
June 9, 2008 - 13:52 ET by mattmWhat ever happened to, "I didn't vote for her/him because I don't agree with their politics?"
Libs can't afford to admit that. If they did, they'd have to debate the merits, and they might lose the argument.
It's alot easier for them to say 'the people are evil or stupid or uninformed' than to admit that perhaps the people just don't like their ideas.
The Usual Suspects
June 9, 2008 - 13:24 ET by CellaAll the usual female liberal nuts are stomping and fuming and hammering into the ground that sexism defeated Hitlary.
No, we just hold her in utter disdain. We can't stand her. And what has she ever really done?
She has had a platform long enough. Stop finger - wagging.
Broom Hillary
June 9, 2008 - 13:26 ET by bsmarj"Which old witch, the wicked witch. Hi, Ho the wicked witch..."
Shroeder said: You know,
June 9, 2008 - 14:11 ET by lnthompShroeder said:
You know, racism, we now recognize and we all stand up. Anti-Semitism, the same thing.
So when are they going to recognize OBAMA'S anti-Semitism and stand up?
Lee T.
"Democrats, there is one reason Obama is your party's nominee, and it's not because he's black -- it's because he's not Hilary Clinton." -- Rush Limbaugh, 6/2/08
Pat Schroeder _ Never saw her at Valley View Hot Springs
June 9, 2008 - 14:12 ET by Gary HallPat Schroeder _ Never saw her at Valley View Hot Springs -
Now that's a tweaker opening line, is it not?
I lived in Colorado for about 16 years, and one of our old occasional favorite weekend get-always was a little place in the Santé DeCristo mountain range, I'd happened into after a long week of backpacking. There were hot springs, pools, and a cozy sauna with a pot belly stove and a slightly cooler creek running right through the little structure - that was a tight spot on a full moon cold summer night in the Rokies.
Well, it was the early 70's - and not too many folks wore their swimsuits at Valley View (my skin is still paying for it). There was a certain Colorado congressman who did frequent the place - and best I could tell, it always remained a tight little secret - perhaps most of the folks up there didn't know who he was - looked a tad different in a suit - not to difficult to envision the point, is it?
So here's the punch line. To this day, I'm still relieved that Pat Schroeder didn't show up.
(;~>
Huffington
June 9, 2008 - 14:26 ET by okiehawk44I believe that's kinda how Arianna Huffington met her husband, but of course it was in a San Francisco bathhouse.
ckiehawk
June 9, 2008 - 15:31 ET by Gary Hallgood one. (;~> gary
water torture for witches?
June 9, 2008 - 15:09 ET by soosanDon't you mean waterboarding?
Will someone please tell these people to quit whining.
they won't admit it
June 9, 2008 - 15:42 ET by CatherwoodIt probably should not be said but here goes: when will all these apologists and media wonks just come out and say that the reason Hillary lost is because she is a rotten person with the personality of a prison guard. She's mean, arrogant, spiteful and egocentric. She's never done a thing in her life for anyone but herself. that's why she will never win except in NY or Calif where there are more liberals who vote not for her but against Republicans. I think her actual loyal constituency is actually very small. If you take away the liberals who vote against Republicans, there are few left who actually believe in Hillary the Ice Queen.
Pat Schroeder
June 10, 2008 - 01:30 ET by ToddonCapeCodHow and why did they drag this prune face out of the mothballs?
She left Congress after the Republican victory in 1994!
Why does anyone care what she says?
The woman had something to
June 10, 2008 - 01:57 ET by bigtimerThe woman had something to do with all of our kids classroom textbooks if memory serves me right, she was or is one on one of the boards or something like that that makes decisions on what our kids get in their school textbooks... I was trying to think of her name for one of WTH's blog posts last night...
Nevertheless...the woman could never keep those slits for eyes OPEN!
It drove me nuts!
"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Wilson
Slits for eyes - LOL! Patsy:
June 11, 2008 - 07:35 ET by SickofLibsSlits for eyes - LOL!
Patsy: Preparation H is NOT a good makeup foundation.
it's a setup
June 10, 2008 - 11:26 ET by wizardjrThe libs are crying 'sexism' for Shrillary's loss in the Primary. As soon as everyone buys into that line, it is a setup for The Obamasiah's loss in the General Election. Then it will be 'racism' and "America is not ready for anyone but a white male in the White House," and "America is a terrible throw-back nation even today." Watch for it.