CBS’s Rodriguez: ‘You’ll Be Paying $4 a Gallon or Even More’

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NewsBusters.org - Media Research CenterOn Thursday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Maggie Rodriguez hyped rising gas prices as she teased an upcoming segment and declared: "Still ahead for us, more pain at the pump. You'll be paying $4 a gallon or even more." Though $4 a gallon may happen, asserting that it will be that high, or higher, in the near future certainly paints an overly dire picture. While introducing the segment, Rodriguez went on to highlight one gas station in California with prices far above the average of $3.17 a gallon across the country: "It may be hard to believe, but seeing is believing. Take a look at that, regular unleaded at $5.19 a gallon at one California station."

Rodriguez talked to analyst Tom Kloza of the Oil Information Price Service and began by asking about the rise in gas prices, and admitting some of her earlier exaggeration: "Luckily nationwide we're not seeing gas at $5.19, but we hit a record high yesterday, $3.17 a gallon, which is 69 cents higher than a year ago. What's going on here?"

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Rodriguez also talked about President Bush’s effort to get OPEC to increase crude oil supply: "The president is trying to fix this by getting OPEC, the countries that produce petroleum, to raise their oil supply. Their not budging, saying ‘that's not the problem, it's the economy.’" She followed up by asking Kloza: "While they're fighting it out, what are we supposed to do? Because at this point no one can afford gas."

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

7:02AM TEASER:

MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: We know from talking to voters around the country that the number one issue on their minds is the economy. And there is bad news to report on that front this morning. Oil prices hit a record high yesterday, and gas is now averaging $3.17 a gallon, 69 cents higher than a year ago. We'll talk to an expert about what this means for you and me.

7:12AM TEASER:

RODRIGUEZ: Still ahead for us, more pain at the pump. You'll be paying $4 a gallon or even more.

7:15AM SEGMENT:

MAGGIE RODRIGUEZ: It may be hard to believe, but seeing is believing. Take a look at that, regular unleaded at $5.19 a gallon at one California station. Here to tell us what we have to look forward to at the pump this spring is Tom Kloza of Oil Price Information Service. Tom, good morning.

TOM KLOZA: Hi, nice to be here.

RODRIGUEZ: Luckily nationwide we're not seeing gas at $5.19, but we hit a record high yesterday, $3.17 a gallon, which is 69 cents higher than a year ago. What's going on here?

KLOZA: Well, what's going on here really is the price of crude oil. We hit $105 for crude oil, and that represented about an $18 a barrel increase since the middle of February. This isn't even the real deal for gasoline. The real deal comes at the end of this month, April and May, when we get gasoline going up on its own, irrespective of what happens to crude oil.

RODRIGUEZ: Tom, this morning we're seeing a tug-of-war. It's front-page news in The New York Times and papers around the country. The president is trying to fix this by getting OPEC, the countries that produce petroleum, to raise their oil supply. Their not budging, saying 'that's not the problem, it's the economy.' So which is it?

KLOZA: Well, I think it's a little bit of each. I mean, I think OPEC's right in saying that prices are up not just because of supply and demand but because of a lot of speculation in some of the big capital markets. But I don't think you can just sort of ask or expect to see OPEC raise production simply because you, the United States, wants to.

RODRIGUEZ: While they're fighting it out, what are we supposed to do? Because at this point no one can afford gas.

KLOZA: Well, you know, we're going to have to pay the prices, and we're going to have to pay more. The one thing that you probably won't hear from political candidates, but makes a lot of sense, is we need to have some sort of energy discipline here. We talk about energy independence, but energy discipline really needs to presage energy independence. If everyone cut back by about a half a mile or so of driving per day, and I know a lot of people say they can't, we really would swing the balance toward some products, particularly gasoline, toward -- slightly toward the oversupply category as opposed to tight supply. So, you know, we're in for a rough ride here, but hopefully we'll see some leadership from some of the candidates running for president, and they'll really level with the American public and say, 'look, we can't drill our way out of this. We can't negotiate our way out of this. We just, somewhere down the line, have to use a little bit less and be a little bit more disciplined,' and there's no downside to that.

RODRIGUEZ: Alright, Tom Kloza, appreciate your insight.

KLOZA: Take care.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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»→ Oil

But drilling?  Not in my back yard!

♣ a seal

so what would Obama do, we

so what would Obama do, we wonder? He'll get the price down fer sure...

he's audaciously hopeful anyway 

»→ Obama's Oil Plan

And Yea, Obama did strike the rock but once and immediately there flowed forth oil for the healing of souls.

♣ a seal

:)

:)

But because Obama struck

But because Obama struck the rock and not merely called forth the oil as god instructed he was denied entry to the house that looked like milk.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

Behold, Obama once filled

Behold, Obama once filled the tanks of a thousand cars with but one gallon of gas.

The Myth about Oil Prices

Give me a break - Oil Prices (Video) (5min) (John Stossel, 20/20)

What is funny is how many people keep forgetting about inflation when calculating the price.

Gas Prices 1918-2006 Adjusted for Inflation

The truth is that going green is having a negative effect on the price.

Going Green's No Good for Gas Prices (ABC News)

 

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Exactly! Drill for oil.

Exactly! Drill for oil. Build refineries.

Another problem is 25 (or so) numbers of blends of gas in the summer. That makes the price of gas go up too.

I honestly think we should round up every enviro-wack job, and put them on some island. Set them up with the sort of wind, solar, mule $hit, energy sources they are so fond of. Then just sail away.

Sorry GP J - - Calif. state law says

No Can build any NEW refineries in California....State Law.

Future $5.00 a gallon gas in California....Effective State law working for the Citizens.  

 

but...

When Pelosi pushed for extra taxes to oil companies in CA (to fund "research" into "alternative energy") she *swore* that it wouldn't cost the people any more because the tax was on those eeevil Oil Companies! And her and the Clintonistas swear that a similar program added at the Federal level won't cost us more either!

She promised! And Democrats and Big Taxes don't lie!

Say it ain't so! :P

 

the proof however is at the pump. And not one news outlet will do a closeup of that little sticker on each pump that tells you how much you're paying for gas, and how much for taxes. None of the Big Conservative Conspiracy folks can be bothered to check the price paid for the gas and do a "before and after" analysis either.

Right now, so @$%%# ing what if biofuels cause corn prices to go up so we don;t send as much free stuff to Mexico and other nations who'd rather rape us than deal with us. Either we drill the Gulf, ANWR and the Cali coast or we flatten forest and field and start planting corn, sugarcane, or anything else that renders flammable liquids. One or the other-"none of the above" is *not* an acceptable answer.

"what good is the environment if there's no one left to gloat?"

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

Government can lower gases prices $0.47/gal by removing taxes

- The average amount of tax on gasoline in the United States is 47.0 cents per gallon (API)
- The average amount of tax on diesel in the United States is 53.6 cents per gallon (API)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Hey Arrow they are drilling

Hey Arrow they are drilling in my yard.  I got 1K for a 3 year lease on my property in Arlington TX.  It is in the middle of a subdivision lots of house around.  I just happen to be in the Barton Shale full of gas deposits.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.

»→ Dan

Yeah, but we're here in Texas.  We're used to seeing it.

That YayHoo was talking about $5 per gallon in California.

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why overly dire?

Though $4 a gallon may happen, asserting that it will be that high, or higher, in the near future certainly paints an overly dire picture.

OPEC isn't going to raise production and the summer driving season hasn't hit yet. You really think $4 a gallon is NBD?

It's already a dire situatuation for lower income people. $20 gets you around 6 gallons which is nothing unless you drive a small car.

It's getting to where I avoid long drives.

$4 Gasoline

Would you like to borrow my Yugo, Chavez?

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Cool Arrow,Are you

Cool Arrow,

Correct me if I am wrong, but are you suggesting that mvfreeman is a socialist because he thinks that it is a big deal that gas prices keep going up?

»→ not at all, msh

Although I've always driven smaller vehicles that get 20-30 mpg.

For me, it's always been a cost avoidance thing.

♣ a seal

Cool, I understand...I

Cool,

I understand...I drive a Spectra, small and pretty good gas mileage.

it should be a very

it should be a very BD...

shoulda been drilling around here decades ago - OH WELL...

Thanks for the high gas prices, sierra club!

Don't you mean Canada and Mexico?

- The largest supplier of oil to the United States is Canada (EIA)
- The second largest supplier of oil to the United States is Mexico (EIA)
- 60% of United States oil imports come from non-OPEC countries (EIA)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Oil Price bubble..but, what will cause it to pop?

From Feb 24:

Speculation helping keep price of oil stratospheric: As the price of oil jumped above $100 per barrel last week, pundits were falling over themselves to come up with explanations for the price spike.

 

Unfortuantely we have not

Unfortuantely we have not one candidate in this race who is pro-drilling here to be self-independent.

Beyond sad...people had better wake up before it is too late, which it may be already.

Drill Often! Drill Everywhere!

bigtimer, I am with

bigtimer,

I am with you...between the cost of gas and food, my family and I have stopped doing just about everything.

It wouldn't be so bad but neither my husband or I received raises this past year. My husband hasn't received a bonus for two quarters. I work for the State of Florida, we have been told not expect any raises this year either. We just received an email saying that the budget is going to be cut another 10% before June. A hiring freeze went into effect last July. I have to bring my own paper and pens from home. We were told if the printers run out of ink....too bad. I am not kidding folks, it is really strange here in Florida.

Florida cut state spending? I thought pigs had to fly first?

I had no idea states actually cut spending? I though pigs had to fly for that to happen, I just thought they kept raising taxes and spending more and more (NJ). Maybe I should move.

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

Unfortunately...

There isn't enough oil here to be "self-independent". Especially at the current rates of consumption.

And oil companies aren't going to drill where costs are prohibitively expensive.

They are finding new fields but not big enough to cut our dependence of imported oil.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090500275.html

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/oil.html

 

 

»→ Freeman

Knowing ANWR has not yet given up a drop, can you honestly say that?

Knowing the Cuban offshore sites are currently under exploitation, can you honestly say the Florida Coast has nothing to yield?

Knowing Offshore Calif. is verboten territory, can you honestly say that?

Are you saying the exploitation of any or all of these sites would mean nothing to our quest for independence?

♣ a seal

Yup.

The ANWR doesn't hold that much recoverable oil.

http://www.sibelle.info/orig/usgs.pdf

The Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates that if the green light is given it would take 7 to 12 years to sell leases, do permitting, environmental reviews, etc. and that initial production could start in 2010 at the earliest. Assuming an optimistic scenario in which the mean expected technically recoverable oil in the entire coastal plain (not just the 1002 area) - 10.3 billion barrels - could be completely recovered (i.e. ignoring market pricing) the EIA estimates production of 600 million barrels a year. In comparison, US daily consumption is 18.5 million barrels a day, or 6,752 million barrels a year. Thus in this scenario ANWR, once on tap, would provide less than 9% of US annual usage (given that usage is trending upward..). Assuming a less positive scenario, at a market price of $24/barrel the mean estimated commercially recoverable oil is 5.2 billion barrels, and since the oil is in multiple plays rather than one large play the costs of exploting the oil will be higher.

http://www.sibelle.info/oped15.htm

We need to get away from oil. 

http://www.gravmag.com/oil.html

Thanks Freeman

10.3 billion barrels here, another 10.3 billion barrels there, and pretty soon you're talking about real oil.

OK, we need to get away from oil.  You go first.

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I'd love to.

Unfortunately we aren't left with any viable and cost effective alternatives. If you think we can just continually find new oil I want some of whatever you're smoking.

Oil companies aren't going to drill if they aren't going to make a profit. The article I linked mentioned the new oil fields in the gulf of mexico but it still isn't enough to keep up with our constumption.

Alaska holds quite a bit of oil

- The U.S.G.S. estimates 4.0 billion barrels of oil in the Central North Slope in Alaska (USGS)
- The U.S.G.S. estimates 10.4 billion barrels of oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) in Alaska (USGS)
- The U.S.G.S. estimates 10.6 billion barrels of oil in the National Petroleum Reserve (NPRA) in Alaska (USGS)

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

We need to get away from oil.

That's a nice, story book idea, and it may happen someday when the technology required to replace it is developed, but oil will be what fuels the world's economies for many decades to come.

Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!

It's also going to get more

It's also going to get more and more expensive for decades to come because of increased demand from other countries.

»→ Yes, Freeman

But you're omitting that it will get more expensive faster if we refuse to tap the resources we have.

Of course, finite resources are less available as they are consumed.  I don't even think they bother to put that little tidbit into Econ 101.  For anyone who enrolls, this should have been apparent since one's first dip into an ice cream bucket.

But this thought that refusing to tap resources somehow doesn't effect supply is ludicrous.

♣ a seal

Never said that either.

I'm saying that tapping new resources won't affect price as much as we would like. That is because the upward curve of demand is steeper than supply, even with the new resources.

mv.... We need to get

mv....

We need to get away from oil...oh that is a real nice statement, plus it is getting old.

Just what do you think we should do in the meantime..eh?

Did you bother to read my post below.

I guess we'll all just

I guess we'll all just pretend that oil is an inexaustable resource.

Whenever new fields are developed it can take years for it to make an impression on the world market.

As long as oil was relatively inexpensive there hasn't been a real push to find alternatives. It won't be too long before that changes.

Hopefully electric cars will become more of the norm. And the use of nuclear power as opposed to oil and coal plants.

 

»→ Electric cars

OK, I must be dense.  Doesn't it take some expenditure of energy to generate electricity?

Aren't the same interests that forbid ANWR exploration shouting "NO NEW NUKES"?

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I dont know freeman. Last I

I dont know freeman. Last I read, they are finding that oil is not a "fossel" fuel, as we have been told for years now. But the earth produces it. Not from dinosaur bones. T-rex is not running under your hood. Its carbon, that comes from the same place as the diamonds do. The earth, deep down inside somewhere, produces the oil. And, more oil seeps out of the sea bed than one may think.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

There is still lots of oil...

The issue is whether it is economically feasible to extract it. Oil in the ground is worthless if you cant get to it without going broke. the oil companies are working on new technologies but they aren't ready for large scale implementation. It would cost them more to extract it than what it would be worth on the world market.

 

Its always economically

Its always economically feasible. The question is, when are we going to stand up to the left wing, tree hugging wing bats and drill weather they like it or not. Drilling for oil is not that difficult. We have wells here that are 10000 and 15000 feet deep, in the Anadarko valley. The deepest well is some 39000 feet deep. It dosent cost more to extract than what it would be worth. That is a myth. Any oil reserve large enough to find on the survey equipment, is worth drilling. Anyone sayes otherwise, dosent know what they are talking about. A survey will tell them how large the deposit is, where it runs, how deep it is, so forth and so on. And there is plenty of oil just waiting to be drilled for, but the eco nuts stand in the way.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

You don't know what you're talking about.

Although oil companies have been exploring the deep-water area of the Gulf of Mexico for the past five years, there have not been any previous production tests from the older tertiary trend, which is made largely of Eocene era sediments more than 35 million years old. Chevron and its partners said the test showed that the oil deposits in the older rock formations were technologically and economically viable.

"The big question for everybody has been whether these rocks would flow and at what rates," said Paul Siegele, head of Chevron's deep-water Gulf exploration unit. "These are older rocks than have been explored before. While everyone was excited about the amount of oil in place, the question was whether it would flow at rates that would be economic, and that's why the test was so important."

Oil companies are not going to drill where production costs are higher than what the final product is worth. I guess Chevron is hiring tree hugging wackos for engineers these days. Right.

»→ Freeman

Welcome to the law of Supply and Demand.

Demand will dictate the Supply will flow at some Price.

♣ a seal

uh yeah.

But to say that oil companies are automatically going to drill wherever they find oil is ludicrous.

»→ Freeman

If an oil company has already found oil, they've already drilled for it.

Are you sure you aren't talking about prospective sites?

There are large depostis of

There are large depostis of oil, right now, easly drilled for, with good to excellent flow rates in the US. Alaska, Montana, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma, Colorado and even California. No wells on them tho. Any reason why? Some of these wells could be producing within 6 months, some sooner. No new refineries in more than 30 years. I shouldent complain about that tho. I have made some real good money in years past on those shut downs they have every year.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

This is one case out of how

This is one case out of how many? The hold up for this is the flow rate. Do you know what he means by that? He means will the oil flow to the drill spout fast enough to produce a steady stream, or must the rig sit idle while the holding area fills up again. Not the difficutly getting to it. If it was always true, why did the drill Z11 or Z 12? At 39222 feet, according to you, it would not be economical to drill it. No Chevron is not hiring tree huggers, but they dident hire you either. And thats a good thing. Like I said, if the reserviour is big enough to provide a constant flow, it is economically viable to drill. Depth has nothing to do with it. Unless your talking in excess of the depth of the upper mantle. Thats where things get really interesting.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I never said anything about well depth.

Oil is going to be gathered from where it is cheapest to extract. When those are exausted then they will move to where it is costlier.

So they aren't going to spend money drilling a field that is cost prohibitive. Oil companies are out to make a profit, not do us any favors.

To understand energy policy, this analysis needs to be modified to reflect the nonrenewable nature of oil resources. The market would induce firms to extract oil in a profit-maximising pattern: with the lowest marginal extraction cost first, and then to proceed to tap higher marginal cost reserves. (Marginal cost differs because oil reserves lie in geological structures that vary in location, weather, depth, pressure and other characteristics that impact on their extraction. Even within a single structure, different reserves may differ in marginal extraction costs.) Extraction continues until marginal cost rises to price. Reserves that could be extracted profitably at higher prices, but not current prices, remain in the ground, available in the future should prices rise or technological change reduce costs. That is, at all times, the decision to extract or store for the future depends on the comparison of marginal cost and price.

That is the point I am making. No profit. No extraction.

http://www.economicsnetwork.ac.uk/iree/i3/holahan.htm

"While they're fighting it

"While they're fighting it out, what are we supposed to do? Because at this point no one can afford gas."

To liberals, it's not the price, it's the "why" of the price.

They have complained for years that we don't pay enough
for gas. They thought we should be paying $5-6 a gallon like they did in
Europe. And now that we're looking at $4, they whine.

I guess $5 a gallon is OK if it's "imposed" by some kind of "feel-good"
conservation theory, or as a penalty for consuming, but if its the law of supply and demand, well
that's just outrageous! People can't afford that!!

mvfreeman... "It would

mvfreeman...

"It would cost them more to extract it than what it would be worth on the world market."  

Not so at $106 per barrel.

"Abstain from McCain"

self renewable OIL?!

Bass, mv and others...

I found the link I was looking for regarding exactly what we have been talking about but especially you here now bass, you weren't here when I went looking for this but this is absolutely intriguing, it is exactly what you are bringing up bass, and I had posted here along time ago, I think I got it from scottydog if anyone recalls him, this has great links inside of the article too...

This is deep and we never hear anything about it.!

Thanks BT, good link. I

Thanks BT, good link. I think the first place I saw it was on drudge, a few years back. Here is another.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Hi bass... Read my link

Hi bass...

Read my link below...here it is again too since I am here...this is exactly what you are talking about.

...gotta' run for a bit, check back in a few.

" I guess we'll all just

"
I guess we'll all just pretend that oil is an inexaustable resource."

As opposed to what, the belief that dreaming of a viable alternative is the equivalent of having one?

"Hopefully electric cars will become more of the norm."

And they will, once they develop a power cord long enough to reach from your living room to wherever you plan to drive, lol.

The Electric Car Myth

If electric cars were economically feasible and practical we would already be using them!

Plug-in Cars Could Actually Increase Air Pollution (USA Today)
The Buyers Have Spoken: Forget Electric Cars (Car and Driver)
'Thirsty' Electric Cars Threaten Water Resources (ABC News)
Who Ignored the Facts About the Electric Car? (GM)
Who Killed Common Sense? (Edmunds)
Who Killed the Electric Car? Nobody! (Watts Up With That?)

"The EV1 ‘died’ because it had limited range, limited room for passengers or luggage, couldn’t climb a hill or run the air conditioning without depleting the battery and no device to get you home when your battery charge ran low."

 

The Anti 'Man-Made' Global Warming Resource

"We need to get away from oil"

Why?

Haven't you heard the latest discovery?  Oil is abiotic... meaning it's NOT a fossil fuel.  As for not having "enough oil here", between all the verboten offshore sites, Alaska, The arctic circle (which has WAY WAY more than the middle east, that's why Russia is trying to claim it.) we have MORE than enough black gold here to last 200 - 300 years at current consumption rates. 

That doesn't include Shale oil, which they aren't yet touching because the ACTUAL long term projected ppb of oil is still 20 - 40 dollars.  Shale doesn't become viable until the real ppb is 60 - 80 dollars.  Once the Shale is tapped, that's enough black gold for 1000+ years at current consumption rates.

The point is there is a ton of oil left, and like Crichton pointed out in his speech on Environmental religion, there isn't currently a technology that can replace the energy of oil, NOT EVEN Nuclear.

mv... Oh yes there

mv...

Oh yes there is....including off shore drilling the Gulf has had huge finds that we are not touching, plus other products like shale in Co., Wyoming, Mt...on top of uncapping some wells all over the country...plus Alaska has numerous places with finds of oil, not just ANWR.

I used to have tons of links that I have put on here over the years now, but I am not going to attempt to find them all at this moment , may look later.

We have plenty here, it has been held up for decades by politicians...$$$$ from the greenies, PCness and votes is all that they care about.

Nevertheless we need to start to be somewhat independent here, especially if we went to war in places like Iran ect. this has been a big strangle hold on us and it will continue to do so.

Jason Lewis just put on a very good show with knowledgeable callers on this very subject of drilling and such let alone the BS called GW....it would do well if McCain would listen to these callers, he was brought up a lot, just his one vote stopped us from a start in ANWR.

I for one am sick and tired of this, this has been stopped for over thirty years now in ANWR....we would not be in the mess we are in now with prices and self-dependency if it was not for the gutless wonders called politicians and their greenie lobbyists who pay them big bucks to stop us.

On top of that McCain wants cap and trade on other energy producing companies here, who do you think will pay the cost for that in the end, us the consumer, the companies will just pass that on to us.

bt, the green weenies have been telling us for

bt, the green weenies have been telling us for three decades that we are "running out of oil." That is a load of manure. This planet is literally swimming in the stuff.

The problem is the idiot congress critters up in Washington, who are beholden to their special interest friends.

The only thing that is going to lower the price at the pump is to increase the supply. All this "alternative energy" talk is just that. Talk.

Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!

The only thing that is

The only thing that is going to lower the price at the pump is to increase the supply.

Or lower demand.

mv... Unless you are not

mv...

Unless you are not going to use anything made from oil of all venues you are shite out of luck for that for years to come...in the meantime we just are suppose to sit on our laurels eh? 

I never said that.

I'm saying that the price of oil isn't going to come down anytime soon.

one problem

The only things that can lower demand:

1) Government policies (fascist/socialist whatever you wish to call them) that try to change human behaviour through taxes, penalties, fees, etc.

2) Technological increases that happen in the free market, and consumers desiring to lower their end cost.  This is already happening and in the next four years car companies are bringing out a combination of diesel, and diesel hybrid cars that get ABOVE 50 mpg in the city.  The Jeep Renegade gets 110 mpg on the highway.

Back in the 1900's when horse crap was over-running the cities, did people have to be coerced into buying cars to fix that problem?  People complain about how dirty cities are today, but look at pictures of the dirt/crap covered roads from the early 1900's... would you rather live in that world or today's world?

ah, jeep's new turbodiesel

that can't be sold in CA because...you guessed it...SHORTSIGHTED ENVIRO LAWS! Yep! A 4wd workhorse that gets almost 50mpg *while towing* and while towing that trailer *up hills* is ILLEGAL because of government meddling having yet another "unintentional consequence". But they try to tell you it's "Big Oil" and "collusion by GM" conspiracies that keep advanced efficient vehicles off of American roads....BS!

Just like the same laws almost prevented the GM Impact electric car from being sold. Smog laws restrictively set to produce yet another tax on people almost prevented the first limited production electric vehicle from being imported in to the so-called "greenest" state in the Union.

The same laws prevent us from getting Volkswagen's sweet TDI (turbodiesel direct injection) that not only gives a comfortably sized four-door car 50-60mpg under real-world, normal city and highway driving (without BS hybrid battery weight and cost either) but also can run biodiesel without *any* modification (and if it's properly certified biodiesel, doesn't void your warranty!).

*This* is the true dark underbelly of government intervention for the sake of "the environment". It looks good for a short time, then causes much more damage than before.

Kinda like most government social experiments..err.."programs", eh?

 

 

"to call an illegal immigrant an "undocumented alien" is the same as calling a streetcorner drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist".

RD... Plus just the rules

RD...

Plus just the rules regulations and all the jive from he EPA and greenies filing lawsuits constantly let alone the cost, plus all the years it takes to just attempt to drill, same for the building of new refineries.

People need to wake up...I think the only way that is going to happen evidently is prices going up to ten dollars a gallon before anything remotely sane happens here, that or a major attack here or a major war elsewhere, or both.... by major I mean major...these coutries have a stranglehold on us and it is our own fault...Bush did try, he even brought up drilling here again about two weeks ago, nobody listened.

It has been pure madness.

BT you are speaking my

BT you are speaking my language.  Most people haven't even heard of oil shale nor the fact that the U.S. is sitting on a huge pile of it.  Now that gas prices are over $3.00 per gallon it will become a viable fuel to compete with regular oil.  Hold on to your lug nuts, the enviromental extremists and our  associated anti-energy politicians will do their best to stop its usage.

High gas prices are the 30 year result of anti-energy politicians.  They have convinced enough people that energy and environment are mutually exclusive, that we can't have one without the other.  This kind of thinking is one of the reasons our economy isn't as strong as it should be.  If this trend continues it will break the back of our economy as it cannot survive out of control oil prices.

Howdy djd... In case you

Howdy djd...

In case you didn't see this you may be interested in this great info. too...I posted this above somewhere, but there are all kinds of good links inside this too.

The silence has been deafening on all kinds of info when it comes to oil of all forms...intentionally.

"They are finding new

"They are finding new fields but not big enough to cut our dependence of imported oil."

But they ARE big enough to replace most of the oil we get from the Middle East, which is a good thing.

on top of that

The new find that oil is abiotic, will enable them to look for oil where they have assumed it can't exist before.... meaning that there is still SO MUCH of the crap underground that we could continue this same "in-efficient" lifestyle for millenia.

mbuel.... Exactly.

mbuel....

Exactly.

Opec won't increase, and the US COngress will NOT either

What's going on here....is Congress passed an Energy bill that has had Zero effect.  The president should ask Congress for permission to Drill on Fed Lands.

What'going on here, is the GW Greenies in Charge of Congress, instead of the American People.  It's just not being reported, like Iraq.....Iraq is starting to head towards 500,000 more barrels per day of Production.....The Iraq Legislators approved the Contracts.

Iraq is more responsive to the American people than the American congress....at least the Iraq Energy bill had ENERGY in it.   

Broken record alert

Meh. We've already heard this song.

ETA: What makes them think they're so right this time?

Not to mention they were

Not to mention they were predicting $4 gas LAST year too, weren't they?

Good memory

Indeed they did: May 2007

They have a heckuva track record on this, don't they?