On Sunday’s "60 Minutes," anchor Scott Pelley profiled a charity called Remote Area Medical and its efforts to provide free health care in the United States:
Recently, we heard about an American relief organization that air drops doctors and medicine into the jungles of the Amazon. Its called Remote Area Medical, or "RAM" for short. Remote Area Medical sets up emergency clinics where the needs are greatest. But these days, that's not the Amazon -- this charity founded to help people who can't reach medical care now finds itself throwing America a lifeline.
Later, Pelley asked the charity’s founder, Stan Brock, about this: "You've created this medical organization that was designed to go into third world countries, to go into remote places, and you're now doing 60% of your work in urban and rural America. What are we supposed to make of that?"
Pelley was shocked by the number of people who arrived at a RAM free clinic set up in Knoxville, Tennesse:
The clinic wouldn't open for seven hours, but people in pain didn't want to chance being left out. State guardsmen came in for crowd control. They handed out what would become precious slips of paper -- numbered tickets to board what amounted to a medical lifeboat...It was 27 degrees. The young and the old would spend the night in their cars, running the engine for heat, but not too much-- not at three dollars a gallon.
Of course this was not the first time that Pelley was shocked by people in America receiving charitable care. In January of 2003 Pelley did a story on "60 Minutes II" on food banks in America and said this:
The lines we found looked like they’d been taken from the pages of the Great Depression. It's not just the unemployed, we found plenty of people working full-time but still not able to earn enough to keep hunger out the house. If you think you have a good idea of who's hungry in America today, come join the line. You'd never guess who you'd meet there.
In Sunday’s story Pelley highlighted one elderly woman in particular, Joanna Ford, who needed a new pair of glasses:
PELLEY: Late on Sunday, Joanne Ford's number was among the last to be called. We found her sitting by a stairwell. She's retired, living on disability, with no insurance, and her glasses don't work anymore. She got in only to find out that the vision care line had closed. How is your vision?
JOANNE FORD: I bet in my left eye, it's probably, I couldn't see your face. The Lord will take care of me, the Lord will provide, the Lord will provide.
PELLEY: But not today.
FORD: But not today. So, I've got to look for another option, but I'll find one.
PELLEY: What are you going to do?
FORD: I don't know-- I have a lot of good friends and I have a lot of church support. I was very active in my church and I have a lot of friends at church. I just hate to ask. I've worked all my life. I hate to ask. That's why things like this are so wonderful.
PELLEY: There is no shame in seeking healthcare.
FORD: No, you're right. You know, it really... I am sad that we are the wealthiest nation in the world, and we don't take care of our own, so... but it will be okay.
PELLEY: And it did turn out okay, after all; someone at RAM noticed Joanne's situation. They put her in the vision care line and examined her for a new pair of glasses.
Earlier in the segment Pelley asked Brock about the number of people who use RAM’s free clinics:
PELLEY: When you set up the first expedition in the United States, were you surprised at the number of people who came?
BROCK: Yes. Yes, I was. And the numbers are getting higher. And I don't know if it's because we're getting better known, or that the health care in this country is getting worse.
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
SCOTT PELLEY: One of the decisive issues in the presidential campaign is likely to be health insurance. Texas and Ohio vote on Tuesday, and those states alone have nearly 7 million uninsured residents. Nationwide, 47 million have no health insurance. But that's just the start, because millions more are underinsured, unable to pay their deductibles or get access to dental care. Recently, we heard about an American relief organization that air drops doctors and medicine into the jungles of the Amazon. Its called Remote Area Medical, or "RAM" for short. Remote Area Medical sets up emergency clinics where the needs are greatest. But these days, that's not the Amazon -- this charity founded to help people who can't reach medical care now finds itself throwing America a lifeline. In a matter of hours, Remote Area Medical set up its massive clinic in an exhibit hall, for a weekend, in Knoxville, Tennessee. Tools for dentists were laid out by the yard; optometrists prepared to make hundreds of pairs of glasses; general medical doctors set up for whatever might come though the door. Nearly everything is donated, everyone is a volunteer. The care is free. But no one could say how many patients might show up. The first clue came a little before midnight when Stan Brock, the founder of Remote Area Medical, opened the gate outside the exhibit hall. The clinic wouldn't open for seven hours, but people in pain didn't want to chance being left out. State guardsmen came in for crowd control. They handed out what would become precious slips of paper -- numbered tickets to board what amounted to a medical lifeboat.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN: We brought some snacks and blankets and we'll...
UNIDENTIFIED MAN B: Well, I hope you stay warm. It's kind of chilly tonight.
PELLEY: It was 27 degrees. The young and the old would spend the night in their cars, running the engine for heat, but not too much-- not at three dollars a gallon. At 5:00 a.m. we took a walk through the parking lot. How long you been out here tonight?
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: We got up at 3:00 this morning and we got here about 4:00. We've been out here a little while. It's cold.
PELLEY: Why did you come so early?
WOMAN: Because we wanted to be seen.
PELLEY: Marty Tankersley came with his wife and his daughter, asleep behind the front seats. You drove 200 miles to get here?
MARTY TANKERSLEY: Yes, sir.
PELLEY: And slept in this parking lot for seven or more hours?
TANKERSLEY: Yes, sir.
PELLEY: Just to have this done?
TANKERSLEY: Yes, sir. I've been in some very excruciating pain.
PELLEY: He had an infected tooth that had been killing him for weeks. Most of the people who filled the lot heard about the clinic on the news or by word of mouth, and they came by the hundreds."
STAN BROCK: We're very happy that you're here this morning. We've got a lot of really fine volunteer doctors, dentists, eye specialists...
PELLEY: Stan Brock calls RAM clinics "medical expeditions." He takes all comers, but just for the weekend. When you set up the first expedition in the United States, were you surprised at the number of people who came?
BROCK: Yes. Yes, I was. And the numbers are getting higher. And I don't know if it's because we're getting better known, or that the health care in this country is getting worse. Who's got number one? Come on down. Number one. Number two...
PELLEY: On Saturday at 6:00 a.m. they entered by the numbers. Inside, 276 volunteers from 11 states were waiting.
UNIDENTIFIED MAN C: Are you here for medical, dental or vision?
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN B: When was the last time you had a breast exam by a nurse or a doctor? Never?
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN C: 20 years ago, 25 years ago.
PELLEY: For those who were diagnosed with cancer today or diabetes, or heart disease, RAM will try to find a volunteer doctor who will follow up. Ross Isaacs is one of the doctors. Who are these patients?
ROSS ISSACS: It's the working poor, middle of their lives -- most with families, most not substance abusers -- and employed without adequate insurance.
PELLEY: Dr. Isaacs saw Marty Tankersley, the man we met in the parking lot who'd driven 200 miles. It turned out that Tankersley, a few years back, had two heart attacks and heart surgery, but almost no follow-up since.
ISSACS: So, you haven't seen somebody in a while with regards to your ticker and stuff?
PELLEY: The Tankersleys live in Dalton, Georgia. They fall in the category of the underinsured. Marty's a truck driver. He has major medical insurance through his employer, but the deductible is $500, really unaffordable. And the dental insurance costs too much. No one really knows just how many Americans are underinsured like the Tankersleys.
ISSACS: He's the lucky one -- that could drive the 200 miles. He's the lucky one that got to see people today and get hooked in. There are tens of hundreds of thousands of people like him.
PELLEY: Marty, his wife and daughter were seen for check- ups, glasses, mammograms, and the yanking of that agonizing tooth.
TANKERSLEY: This has truly been a godsend to us, to me and my family. And to all the hundreds of people that's here. I see the faces, the relief in the faces. This has been a wonderful thing.
PELLEY: This was RAM's 524th expedition. Ram took off in 1992, airlifting relief to Latin America. And at age 71, Stan Brock still
flies the antique fleet. That C-47 flew on D-day. Brock is British by birth, an adventurer at heart. He was a cowboy in the Amazon and then, incredibly, he was discovered by TV's "Wild Kingdom." Brock became a star, sort of a naturalist daredevil.
BROCK: It took only a moment for the situation to totally reverse itself.
PELLEY: Today, Brock is devoted to RAM, completely devoted. He has no family, takes no salary, has no home. Brock lives in an abandoned school that the city of Knoxville leases to RAM for a dollar. Until recently, he took showers in the courtyard with a hose.
PELLEY: When we see what we've seen over the last weekend, how do you pay for all of that?
BROCK: In the first place, we really know how to stretch the dollar. We operate entirely on the generosity of the American people. I'd like to say that we had big corporate support in America, but we don't. So, it's those little checks from those people that send in the $5 and $10.
PELLEY: RAM operates on a shoestring, about $250,000 a year. And yet, last year, it treated 17,000 patients. On this Saturday, there was no sign of a let up. What have you accomplished today?
BROCK: Well, uh, we basically had 600 or so people that have arrived here overnight, and we were able to do just about everybody. I think we turned away about 15 people who are going to come back tomorrow morning, anyway.
PELLEY: The next day, Sunday, there were hundreds more. Tickets started again with the number one. But now, the doctors were racing time. In hours they'd be headed home.
BROCK: Who's got 361? 362. 362. 363...
TERESA GARDNER: We were really glad that you came in.
PELLEY: Nurse Practitioner Teresa Gardner was worried about Rebecca McWilliams. McWilliams had surgery for cervical cancer in 2005, but without the recommended follow-up. How long has it been?
REBECCA MCWILLIAMS: It's been two, about two years since I've had my last pap smear, and I was supposed to have every six months, and I've really only had it once since that surgery.
PELLEY: You know, I think many doctors would say you've taken a terrible risk waiting this long?
MCWILLIAMS: Yeah, I really have. But it's just, like I said, it's very hard to afford it. I have three kids, and my husband lost his job this past summer.
PELLEY: McWilliams' pap smear came back clear but, in her exam, Gardner found reason to worry.
TERESA GARDNER: I think just from, you know, the clinical inspection of the cervix that, you know, possibly, there is a possibility that cancer, you know, still... still being there.
PELLEY: She's 28 years old.
GARDNER: 28 years old, the mother of three.
PELLEY: You've created this medical organization that was designed to go into third world countries, to go into remote places, and you're now doing 60% of your work in urban and rural America. What are we supposed to make of that?
BROCK: For 50 million or so people in this country, the one thing that is on their mind is "what if I have a catastrophic event-- a car crash, a heart attack?"
PELLEY: Because they don't have health insurance.
BROCK: "Because I either have no health insurance or I'm underinsured." And... and, so this is a very, very weighty thing to be thinking about, knowing that your family is in great jeopardy. 376. 377. 378. 379. 380.
PELLEY: Late on Sunday, Joanne Ford's number was among the last to be called. We found her sitting by a stairwell. She's retired, living on disability, with no insurance, and her glasses don't work anymore. She got in only to find out that the vision care line had closed. How is your vision?
JOANNE FORD: I bet in my left eye, it's probably, I couldn't see your face. The Lord will take care of me, the Lord will provide, the Lord will provide.
PELLEY: But not today.
FORD: But not today. So, I've got to look for another option, but I'll find one.
PELLEY: What are you going to do?
FORD: I don't know-- I have a lot of good friends and I have a lot of church support. I was very active in my church and I have a lot of friends at church. I just hate to ask. I've worked all my life. I hate to ask. That's why things like this are so wonderful.
PELLEY: There is no shame in seeking healthcare.
FORD: No, you're right. You know, it really... I am sad that we are the wealthiest nation in the world, and we don't take care of our own, so... but it will be okay.
PELLEY: And it did turn out okay, after all; someone at RAM noticed Joanne's situation. They put her in the vision care line and examined her for a new pair of glasses.
BROCK: If I may have your attention, please. I'm... I'm afraid that we've got some rather disappointing news...
PELLEY: But at the gate, many were waiting when the weekend ended.
BROCK: 449. And 450.
PELLEY: In the expedition to Knoxville, RAM saw 920 patients, made 500 pairs of glasses, did 94 mammograms, extracted 1,066 teeth, and did 567 fillings. But when Stan Brock called the last number, 400 people were turned away. What's going through your mind when you're reading off the last two or three numbers, and you see so many more people at the gate than are going to be able to come in?
BROCK: Yeah, well the... you know, that's the... that's the lousy part of this job. I mean, it's nice to, you know, to... to be able to know that you've... that you've helped a bunch of people. But the reality is that... that we can't do everybody. At the moment, we're just seeing the thousands and thousands of people that we can, and the rest of them, unfortunately, have got to do the best they can without us.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.
















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Thanks 60 minutes
March 4, 2008 - 13:42 ET by Mica the MagnificentWithout realizing it, 60 minutes just gave a example of what national health care would be like.
"They handed out what would become precious slips of paper -- numbered tickets to board what amounted to a medical lifeboat...It was 27 degrees. The young and the old would spend the night in their cars, running the engine for heat"
And by the way, if I stood at a street corner and handed out $20 bills, would you be surprised at the amount of people who 'needed' one?
DEAD ON!
March 4, 2008 - 13:51 ET by voodoodaddyThat is exactly what it will be like.
I would bet also that most of the people, if not all, in the health line would leave it to get in the $20 money line.
Note...
March 4, 2008 - 14:03 ET by Prester John...how these poor, destitute people can afford cars, the insurance on the cars, and the gas to run their cars all night.
The difference is that with
March 4, 2008 - 14:26 ET by motherbeltPelley is missing the point, which is: these people got their health care. In spite of having no insurance.
The difference is that with national health care, like Canada's, you wouldn't wait in line all night. You would call and they would give you an appointment in 6 months.
Much better.
<sarc>
mb,
March 4, 2008 - 17:05 ET by R D Helm....call and they would give you an appointment in 6 months.
LOL-And you would be lucky to get even that.
Theme for Election '08: I want my mommy!
Health care
March 4, 2008 - 14:01 ET by ScrapironDemocrats and especially the liberal brain dead media types really don't know or they lie like a flea bitten dog. Welfare = Medicaid=Totally free medical care.
Old, Retired and glad of it.
OK so this idiot is
March 4, 2008 - 14:07 ET by ConservativeRexOK so this idiot is surprised that when someone in this country offers something for free, Americans take them up on it. Nothing to see here folks, keeping moving...
The hubris of Brock is unbearable. "The thousands and thousands we've helped", please. Let me repeat..."hey y'all, free doctor's visits"!!
And those evil corporations will not help...well they might not want to help because that is what would normally be known as greasing the skids that run themselves out of business! Those corporations recognize socialism when they see it, and last I checked, their stockholders would like them to make a profit.
You want to give free health care? I'm all for it. On your dime and on your time, but do not whine about nobody helping you do something you wanted to do yourself. People find way's to take care of themselves, Lord knows we pay enough taxes for all the programs running now in the government.
What is news about free health organizations in this country?
March 4, 2008 - 14:14 ET by kenro85There are many organizations that offer health care to US citizens, free of charge. I've been to the Shrine limb clinic in Lexington. They were ready to fit my son with a hand, and train him in the use of it, totally free of charge. No doctor fee. No fee for the prosthesis. Not one penny. Same for their burn clinics. About the Jerry Lewis telethon? MDA? American Cancer Society? All organizations dedicated to helping Americans get health treatment. Does this mean that our system is broken? No. It means health care is expensive. Most of us cannot pay for all of it out of pocket. Some cannot pay for any of it out of pocket. So, the people of the US do what the Americans have always done. We gather around each other and help those that need help. We don't brag about it. We don't pat each other on the back over it. We just do what needs to be done.
Now, I ask you, what will happen if we get a national health care system? How many of these organizations, organizations that are currently doing a wonderful job on minimal resources, how many of them would survive? I hazard not many, and a lot of people that right now are getting the help they need would be shoved into a line.
As the old saying goes, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We should focus on fixing problems, not replacing everything.
Rant over.
Right On!
March 4, 2008 - 15:01 ET by mattmI would love to have had the chance to answer his question: "You've created this medical organization ...you're now doing 60% of your work in urban and rural America. What are we supposed to make of that?"
Two things: It's a good program that works well, and we don't need the government to do it.
What a "duh" moment, eh?
what's going on
March 4, 2008 - 14:19 ET by SeptemberOne of the reasons we've had 8 clinics close in our area and why we can't get doctors to stay is the absolute overload of illegal immigrants over the last decade or more. Add to that their offspring and the red tape. Wouldn't it be nice if people would only have kids they could actually afford and provide health care for?
I have no idea what's going on in Knoxville but as someone who pays for health care out of pocket, I know I am responsible for my own health and need to budget for that since it ain't gonna grow on trees or fall from the sky.
It would be nice to see affordable health care--a sort of streamlined system or way for people to make it over a rough spot in their lives but socialized health care would only be more of the same as described in the article: long lines and long waits for "free" care, all the worse.
"What are we supposed to
March 4, 2008 - 14:57 ET by MikeB"What are we supposed to make of that?"
Well, you could make it into an argument for the government to come in, nationalize healthcare and totally FUBAR the situation. Or, you could do some research and find out that maybe, just maybe, this organization and others like it are now working rural America because small rural hospitals, clinics, and doctor's offices have closed due to exhorbitant malpractice insurance fees brought about by shyster lawyers representing dumb@** parasites who sued said hospitals, clinics, and doctors, hoping to hit the jackpot with a lawsuit. After all, those insurance companies have deep pockets, right? And, it doesn't help that a lot of people on medicade and illegal aliens who might, or might not, get taxpayer help over use the "free" facilities. Hey, it's free, so why not take your kid to the ER because he/she has a runny nose? It doesn't cost anything and they're "entitled" to it, right? Except there's no such thing as "free" anything. Someone, somewhere, whether taxpayers or corporate shareholders have to pay for it.
Bah!
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
Bingo! That was extremely
March 4, 2008 - 16:37 ET by fitzfongBingo! That was extremely well put. That's two dishonest stories for Pelley in one week. He's almost as smug as he is ignorant.
You are right on MikeB
March 4, 2008 - 22:54 ET by DEVILDOCMOMAs an ER nurse I see it all the time. People come in to the ER for their "free" care. "Your child has had a fever for two days, have you given him any tylenol or motrin?" The answer is always "no"; I mean that would cost them money...of course, they reek of the smell of cigarettes. They have not even tried to do simple cooling measures at home. As the wait in the lobby some ask if we can feed them (no, not until you see a doc). I have had people ask where the cafeteria is and then ask if they have to pay for food there. I mean, why can't we feed them and their friends for free...since we are keeping them waiting.
My fellow nurses and I refer to it as "the you and I insurance"; in other words we who work are paying for it.
Pelley himself looks
March 4, 2008 - 15:10 ET by fonzie2178pretty healthy! Maybe we could send him to a 3rd world country and see what happens to his health. And also see what happens when he tries to find medicine. Then maybe we could allow him back to the U.S. and see if his opinion changes. Just an idea.
The vast majority of us CAN afford it on our own
March 4, 2008 - 17:35 ET by MagCynicI keep hearing this 47 million people uninsured figure and
can’t help but think to myself, hmm, 47 million out of a total population of
around 302 million equals to about 15% of the population that is
uninsured. That means 85% of us are
able to afford health insurance. And
this is assuming that the 47 million figure doesn’t include anyone who can
afford insurance but chooses not to, anyone here illegally, or anyone who is
temporarily without insurance due to transitions in their lives. Maybe we should be asking why this 15% can’t
do what the vast majority of us can?
I also can’t help but laugh every time I hear someone
use that figure as if it’s some magical number that all of a sudden merits a
universal health plan. What if it were
10 million uninsured? 5 million? 500,000?
What would the Democrats be saying then?
What people aren't told...
March 5, 2008 - 10:32 ET by Joe C.is that the 15% uninsured figure is unchanged since the 80's (+/- 1%); and it's always the same 15% - non-Americans, young and healthy, middle class that don't want insurance, Medicaid-eligible that don't enroll, short-term uninsureds, and a few "hard-luck" cases.
Sources: http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/historic/index_old.html
They're in the tank for
March 5, 2008 - 02:02 ET by rbosqueThey're in the tank for socialism. It's all propaganda for the mindless drones out there who can't think for themselves.
Pelley's reporting is lame
March 5, 2008 - 09:33 ET by ThalpyPelley's reporting is lame, and the timing couldn't be better- for Hillary.
it's safer for them here
March 5, 2008 - 13:44 ET by wizardjrFor those of us who have lived in the third world, it's one heck of a lot safer here than there. So, all of a sudden, they discover they can preach their socialist doctrine while treating free riders and not get kidnapped or killed. Hmmm... let me see... take a big chance with my life in the third world or work here in the good old US of A...hmmmm... tough choice. </sarc>