CBS’s Smith: Most Blacks ‘Feel Discrimination’; Wonders ‘Is This the America We Live In?’

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On Monday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith talked to two liberal politicians, the black Governor of Massachusetts, Deval Patrick, and black mayor of Washington D.C., Adrian Fenty, about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s legacy and asked Fenty:

You know, if we look at this statistically, it's not a particularly bright picture. I want to just put up a couple of statistics very quickly here. The frequency blacks feel discrimination in America. So high. Applying for jobs, renting or buying a house, dining out or shopping. This is a pretty bleak picture. Mayor Fenty, is this -- is this the America we live in?

This is not the first time Smith has seen America as a racist country, as he did in the wake of the Jena 6 controversy. One wonders where prominent conservative black leaders were for this segment, like former Maryland Lieutenant Governor, Michael Steele. Also, not even Smith’s liberal guests were willing to go as far as Smith. Fenty replied to Smith in a way beyond any particular race:

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Well, you know, I think that African-Americans do represent still a group of Americans who have some obstacles, but I think what the presidential campaign is about in politics in 2008 is there are lots of Americans who still have a struggle, Latinos, women, other racial minorities, and people from disadvantaged backgrounds.

Smith then asked Patrick: "Governor Patrick, do you think there are two Americas, or maybe as the Mayor suggests, a multiplicity of Americas, where there's still plenty of discrimination left?" Like Fenty, Patrick also worked to move beyond race and instead focus on economic division:

Well, I think we have enormous challenges remaining. And I think that one of the problems we have in this country is that we have trouble striking the balance between celebrating the incredible progress that we have made, the doors that have been opened, and acknowledging how much work remains. You know, the poor are in terrible shape, and the middle class are just one month away from being poor and deeply anxious about it. And that crosses a whole lot of lines. And those of us who have leadership opportunities want to try to respond across all of those lines.

Undeterred, Smith continued to push the pessimistic theme of American rascism:

Yeah. You know, we look at some other statistics, especially among African-American men, this disproportionate number of African-American men who are in prison, the number of blacks living below the poverty level, so high. U.S. children living with two parents. Laws change. Do hearts change? Do you feel like hearts have changed in America?

Patrick responded optimistically: "I think hearts have changed. I mean, I ran here in Massachusetts, a place that doesn't have a very large black population, relatively speaking, and won decisively in a four-way race."

Later, Smith pushed the theme on Fenty: "Mayor Fenty, in closing, Martin Luther King said so famously he looked forward to the day when people are judged on the 'content of their character' and not 'the color of their skin.' Do you feel like we're closer to that day or farther away than 40 years ago?"

Like Patrick, Fenty did not go along with Smith’s pessimism: "I really do feel like we're closer. I think, you know, Governor Patrick's election, other people getting elected, they're really the embodiment of what Dr. King was talking about."

In a later segment with actor Denzel Washington about King’s legacy, Smith again pessimistically wondered:


All of a sudden, Martin Luther King Jr.'s name has been revived in the last couple of weeks during the political campaign. Is the dream -- did the dream die? Is the dream alive? Is all of the stuff that he talked about? Does it -- do you think -- is it meaningful, especially for young people?

Washington continued to dispell Smith’s pessimism: "I think it is more than we older people give younger people credit for."

Here is the full transcript of the segment:

7:30AM TEASER:

HARRY SMITH: Also coming up this half hour, the Martin Luther King Jr. legacy. We're going to talk with two African-American leaders about the state of African-Americans in America today.

7:06AM TEASER:

SMITH: Up next, we're going to talk to a new generation of black leaders about Dr. King's dream.

7:10AM SEGMENT:

HARRY SMITH: On Sunday Barack Obama remembered the legacy of Dr. King as he tries to make American history.

BARACK OBAMA: It's only been 40 years since he was assassinated. But you think about the enormous strides that we've made since that time, for me to be able to run a credible race for president.

SMITH: Barack Obama is part of a whole new generation of black leaders in American politics. Joining us now, are D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty and Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick. Good morning, gentlemen.

DEVAL PATRICK: Good morning, Harry.

ADRIAN FENTY: Good morning.

SMITH: You know, if we look at this statistically, it's not a particularly bright picture. I want to just put up a couple of statistics very quickly here. The frequency blacks feel discrimination in America. So high. Applying for jobs, renting or buying a house, dining out or shopping. This is a pretty bleak picture. Mayor Fenty, is this -- is this the America we live in?

FENTY: Well, you know, I think that African-Americans do represent still a group of Americans who have some obstacles, but I think what the presidential campaign is about in politics in 2008 is there are lots of Americans who still have a struggle, Latinos, women, other racial minorities, and people from disadvantaged backgrounds. And so that's why I think people are looking for elected officials who speak to everyone and speak to everyone's problems in their own communities.

SMITH: Governor Patrick, do you think there are two Americas, or maybe as the Mayor suggests, a multiplicity of Americas, where there's still plenty of discrimination left?

PATRICK: Well, I think we have enormous challenges remaining. And I think that one of the problems we have in this country is that we have trouble striking the balance between celebrating the incredible progress that we have made, the doors that have been opened, and acknowledging how much work remains. You know, the poor are in terrible shape, and the middle class are just one month away from being poor and deeply anxious about it. And that crosses a whole lot of lines. And those of us who have leadership opportunities want to try to respond across all of those lines.

SMITH: Yeah. You know, we look at some other statistics, especially among African-American men, this disproportionate number of African-American men who are in prison, the number of blacks living below the poverty level, so high. U.S. children living with two parents. Laws change. Do hearts change? Do you feel like hearts have changed in America?

PATRICK: I think hearts have changed. I mean, I ran here in Massachusetts, a place that doesn't have a very large black population, relatively speaking, and won decisively in a four-way race. So if that's an indication, and I think it is, people are prepared to look past race. I don't think we are color-blind. And I don't think that's a goal we should be searching for. But I think understanding that race is a part of who we are, but not all of who we are, is absolutely key. And I guess the other point I'd make here, Harry, is that I think it's very important for folks not to look at a couple of us who have had wonderful opportunities and made the most of them and declared victory, because we have so much work to do.

SMITH: Mayor Fenty, in closing, Martin Luther King said so famously he looked forward to the day when people are judged on the 'content of their character' and not 'the color of their skin.' Do you feel like we're closer to that day or farther away than 40 years ago?

FENTY: I really do feel like we're closer. I think, you know, Governor Patrick's election, other people getting elected, they're really the embodiment of what Dr. King was talking about. And that is having people who just have everybody's best interests in mind regardless of what their race or background. We're not a hundred percent past it, but clearly making great progress.

SMITH: Mayor Fenty, thank you so much. Governor Patrick, do appreciate your time as well.

PATRICK: Thank you, Harry.

—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.


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yeah...

Cause, you know, wealthy white men on TV know exactly how struggling black people feel......

Poor ol' liberal Harry goes

Poor ol' liberal Harry goes around with a vague, yet constant, feeling of guilt that he insists on spreading on to everyone else.

what a crock

and the middle class are just one month away from being poor and deeply anxious about it.

You'd never guess this judging from cell phone sales, new cars leaving the lots, packed malls every weekend, restaurants on every block, etc. Give people a choice between saving or spending, they'll spend every time and expect the government to be there when they crash.

The government is in debt so bad because the American people think debt is no big deal. Someone will always be there with a bailout. We live in a nation of spoiled brats who want to keep their cake and eat it too, then whine to the politians that they don't have enough.

Smith pushed the theme on

Smith pushed the theme on Fenty: "Mayor Fenty, in closing, Martin Luther King said so famously he looked forward to the day when people are judged on the 'content of their character' and not 'the color of their skin.'

Yea Smith! cause you just also quoted how high the rate is for blacks in prison. so were they put there because of their skin color, or their character (or lack of)?

No offense to black people,

No offense to black people, but after hearing about experiences at mcdonalds for three years, blacks feel discriminated against when you dont give them free food and drinks. its easy to feel discriminated against when you are raised to believe that everyone owes you something.

It's the same thing when a

It's the same thing when a lot of them try to get jobs. Must be racism if a white person gets a job.

I've seen this for years working in resturants, people come in in and "axe" if you "gots" any jobs or "yall hirin'and s**t?" Why on earth would I hire someone who asks me like that, white or black? Yet one group always cries the loudest. MLK would be proud.


What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom  

Agree with this 100%

Most decent, hardworking minority people I know are making good money and doing just fine. If you put a motivated black person and a motivated white person side by side, their lives would pretty much look quite similar these days.

I've also worked in stores, restaurants, and pharmacies where unmotivated losers came in looking for jobs or, in the McDonald's reference above, looking for free food. And I've seen managers treat white losers the same as black or Latino losers. Only difference is, minority losers cry racism.

candance... Bingo! You

candance...

Bingo!

You hit the nail right on the head...

I too have been and seen similar situations...you are exactly right.

 

Yes. I know a lot of

Yes. I know a lot of minorities that are doing just fine without the government dime. Why are they doing fine? Because they got up and made something of themselves. They didnt buy into the mentality that they were somehow "selling out" if they got an education, or didnt put on a red or blue rag, or didnt write Sureno 13 all over everything and act like some kind of bad ass. I have no use for these children.


What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom  

Feelings

When a black person is treated rudely by a white person he might see that as discrimination, but I'm about as lily white as they come and I can tell you that white folks are often rude to me as well. The problem isn't discrimination, it's gun control.

Candance

If you put a motivated black person and a motivated white person side by side, their lives would pretty much look quite similar these days.

You aren't serious with this comment are you? 

You're ignoring so many factors, it makes your comment worthless.

Unfounded, ridiculous beliefs such as this are why there is rampant disdain for minorities on the right.

→ Actually, Leon

Success rates are pretty much parallel until you inject the dirty little secret that single parent families are predominantly poor.

And there is no denying that's a demographic that is roughly double for African Americans.

So should we legislate some parity along those lines?

Thankfully, HIV/AIDS has now become a chronic disease - Hillary Clinton

Cool, I'm not saying

Cool,

I'm not saying anything about legislation, I'm simply stating that it is ignorant and shallow to assume that all Americans have the same starting point in life, which is what Candance was saying. 

→ Leon

But what I'm saying is that the opportunities are fairly even.  Disparity sets in with individual choices.

I can't force men to raise their own children, but I did raise my own.

I can't force kids to at least finish High School, but mine did.

The government had nothing to do with the fact my family stayed together and prospered.  Our upbringing and Faith had everything to do with it.

Thankfully, HIV/AIDS has now become a chronic disease - Hillary Clinton

Cool, The opportunities

Cool,

The opportunities are not even remotely even.

Explain how a black child born in concentrated poverty in say, Chester PA would have the same opportunities that a white child born in an affluent suburb, like Radnor, PA would have?

It makes no sense. 

→ Easy Leon

Remember that marvellous institution you Liberals are always bragging about?  You know, Public Education?

In fact, Liberals swear so much by it they refuse to let those evil vouchers get a foothold.  Public Education must certainly be fabulous.

Seriously, though.  I never had a fellow student tell me "you're just trying to act White" when I did well in school.

Thankfully, HIV/AIDS has now become a chronic disease - Hillary Clinton

What about a white girl

What about a white girl born to a drug using mother, twice divorced and on welfare, constantly moving with an older half brother and a father so aweful and scary his name was left off of her birth certificate and kept from knowing her whereabouts????

Simple, it is the support and love of the family around her.  It is their faith that she will be better, stronger, and prosperous.  It is their refusal to allow her to get away with bad behavior and their high expectations of her.  It is their persistance that she work hard in school, keep away from bad influences, and respect others.   

And in one fell swoop your

And in one fell swoop your racist ass just put every black person into the "ignorant basket". Thanks a lot, idiot. Notice that the insult is "syntactically correct". Moron.

Where did I say that every

Where did I say that every black person acted this way? Go back, read my comment again and then talk to me, douchebag.


What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom  

No worries, your position

No worries, your position was clear and accurate.  Keith reserves his brotherly, Christian love for those who believe as he does.  The Bible tells us not to call people a fool and yet he does it daily, he should repent of his evil ways and appologize to you.

I am so past sick and

I am so past sick and tired of all of this so-called discrimination by us white folks that I can't see straight anymore... this is way past old ...way past old getting crammed down our throats 24/7 by the msm arm in arm with the dems...

Btw msm, it is the leftist party eating their own when it comes to all of this...haven't you noticed yet?

Talk about divisive...oops I forgot you have an agenda, but you had better pay attention to your own arm of the party.

Fools.

The sheep mentality

With 90% of blacks following a political party hook line and sinker thats spews to them that they are victims of the big bad evil racist America, it is only natural that the herd would believe what the party is saying is true Black conservatives tend not to drink the koolaid of victimhoood, that is why they are so despised by liberals both black and white and the political party that feeds victimazation.

"Black conservatives tend

"Black conservatives tend not to drink the koolaid of victimhoood"

Except for Keith, apparently he is drowning in it.

So called discrimination?

So called discrimination? Man get your head out of your ass. WTF are you talking about? Only a racist or and unbelievable IDIOT would look at the history of racism in this country and allege it to be make believe. You SUCK. IDIOT.

Definitely there is racism

Definitely there is racism in the world - the US included.

I myself am a (mostly) white American who's lived about 25% of his life in locales where I was a racial minority. I've come to believe that racism is just a natural part of being human, or being a primate even. I recognize it in myself as well as others. I believe it to be an evolutionary remnant of or clan/territorial protectionist instincts, going back at least millions of years. Our closest living relatives, Chimpanzees show very similar inclinations toward ostracism and even deadly vilolence towards group "outsiders".

That said, I know racism isn't limited to whites, but in the specific historical circumstances of the US white on black racism was clearly predominant.

I also believe that we in the US have made great progress in supressing these instincts and minimizing the practical effects in society. Where else in the world today can you find so many diverse races/ethnicities living in such relative harmony on such a large scale?

Certainly a long way to go yet, but we have come a long long way and should acknowledge the progress so we can move forward faster and further.

 

This man sums it

This man sums it up...

"When the 12th edition of Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary is released, it should include a section that shows the words that are acceptable for blacks to use but not for anyone else.

The recent furor caused by the Golf Channel's Kelly Tilghman's on-air use of the word "lynch" in a jocund reference to Tiger Woods – and Al Sharpton's subsequent leap to a race-based injunction pursuant to the word itself, coupled with his calling for Tilghman's dismissal – unambiguously demonstrates that which has been understood, but not articulated openly: that there are two distinct and unequal, but acceptable sets of standards – one for blacks and one for all others in America today.

For example, there is a lexicon of American language for blacks and there is one for everyone else. The black lexicon includes nigger, ho, bitch, my nigger, bro', bra', negro, whitey, white boy, cracker and countless other invectives that cannot be printed on these pages. But they are deemed perfectly legitimate for use by blacks.

The white lexicon must be void not only of any word or words remotely similar to the aforementioned, but it must not contain even adjectival references that can be construed as unacceptable for white language. Let us not forget what happened to Don Imus and Duane Chapman when they violated the rules of segregated grammar.

As America recognizes Dr. Martin Luther King's birthday, we do well to point out that said double standard is not limited to language as such, but actions as well.

Dr. King fought censorship, segregation, race-based orthodoxies and practices that were intended to divide. But such is neither the intent nor the desire of many blacks today. Today for many it is about "we can say it, you can't," and/or "it's not what you said, but what we say you meant." This is but one form that today's self-inflicted black segregative orthodoxy has taken.

For many blacks today, it is not about inclusiveness; rather it is about race-based exclusion masquerading as civil rights, black pride and black advancement. The very things Dr. King and others fought for have, today, metastasized into reverse discrimination and alienation. The question that must be answered is, how have blacks benefited from this? The answer, of course, is that they haven't. The problem is that far too many are blind to this and too filled with resentment to understand it.

The same black children who know every word to the basest music complain about schoolwork that includes literature by Samuel Clemens and Harper Lee, because theses authors employed the language of their day.

I am routinely criticized as being a recipient, i.e., beneficiary, of race-based affirmative action. Allowing that there is any truth whatsoever to that accusation – and I assure you there isn't – the question the accusers should be asking themselves is what they are getting from their liberal plantation masters for being contentious immiserates.

But, to my point, said accusers' premise being that my thoughts and points of view cannot be mine because they are so devoid of the bitterness that fuels their rage – ergo, I and those likeminded must be bought and paid for.

If Dr. King were alive today, of whom do you think he would be more proud – those wallowing in despair, immiseration and accusation, or those who are willing to reason outside the box of race, proving instead that opportunity abounds for all? Would he be more proud of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas or Tupac Shakur and R. Kelly? Would he be more proud of what Justice Thomas has worked to accomplish or those who call him an Uncle Tom and a sellout? Would he be more proud of Secretary of State Dr. Condoleezza Rice or Jesse Jackson?

If Dr. King were alive today, what do you think his opinion would be of a black political body such as the Congressional Black Caucus, which challenged former Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco to pardon the Jena 6? Texas Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, in a letter to Blanco, claims that the hoodlums have paid their debt to society and should be immediately pardoned. She argues that they and their families have suffered enough. Again I ask – do you think this would be Dr. King's view?

Blacks are against ending race-based preferences and race-based affirmative action policies, even though many of those who oppose ending the practice in higher education will never take the requisite parental involvement to ensure their children are prepared commensurate with their grade level.

I may be attacked and labeled a traitor, Uncle Tom or whatever – but I say to those so inclined to call me names to tangibly show how their contumacious positions and double standards for have helped them advance.

The inimical marplots, who contribute only anarchic orthodoxies, must be challenged to re-evaluate their positions. Establishing lexicons acceptable for some and not others, self-segregation, contempt for our system of jurisprudence, demanding and expecting that which has not been earned, and the idea that being black trumps appropriate behavior is not what Dr. King represented. Dr. King represented truth, honor, inclusion, dignity and meritocracy. Which of the so-called black leaders of today can be said to embody those qualities? "  Mychal Massie

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59794

Discrimination?

Firstly there is a world of difference between "feeling" you are being discriminated against and actually being discriminated against. 

Secondly a lot of so called "discrimination" doesn't have anything to do with race but cultural intigration.  Face it if your communication skills are laced with slang, improper garmatical construction or just plain vulgarity, why would you be supprised if you are not treated the same or hired for a position over some one who can speak proper English or can convey an idea or concept with out the use of FY, MF, CS and the like? 

It's not race it's culture or the lack there of.

 

"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one."

Alexander Hamilton

Sure it's all in their

Sure it's all in their MINDS! Just read some of the racist idiots on this blog for evidence to the contrary but don't let the truth get in the way of your stupidity!

No Racism but Sloth

MLK and the others during the Civil Rights movement are turning over in their graves.  Blacks that are successful follow proven principles of Hard Work, Faith, God, Family, etc to get by.  This notion of depending on "whitey" or "the man" to get by places "whitey", "Mr. Charley" in a position of power.  Last time I checked the Good Book says, that He is NO respector of persons.   Some Black folk just need to stop waiting on the Clintons and the rest of the Jackass party to lift them out of poverty.   There is TOO much wealth in this country to not go for it.  That is why as an African-American, I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid from the JackAss party. 

I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at gunpoint if necessary. President Ronald Reagan

Some Black folk just need

Some Black folk just need to stop waiting on the Clintons and the rest of the Jackass party to lift them out of poverty.

Didn't we already go through this nonsense, oh, about 16 years ago.


What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom  

Arrgggg!  We are all

Arrgggg!  We are all descriminated against one way or another!  My husband would have a difficult time switching careers due to his age (48).  I am blond (natural), well endowed in the boob department, so white I glow, and 32 years old.  Therefore, it is assumed I am the other woman (even though I am my husband's first and only wife) and stupid.  I was denied an apartment because I was not a lesbian!  I home school my 3 children so I must be a wacky Christian who wants to shelter my kids from the world.  My oldest daughter is mine (my husband adopted her) from a previous relationship, but she is the color of Halle Barry so she must not really be mine....I could go on and on....We are humans, we make judments, deal with it.  My favorite was in basic training.  A giant black woman, very black, very tall, blocked my way to the latrine and said, "I hate white people".  I looked at her, toothbrush hanging out of my mouth, and said, "hu.  ok."  and I carried on.  I have no idea what her name was and she does not know mine, we were in the same bay, different platoons.  I laugh whenever I think of that.

Hey Harry, since things are

Hey Harry, since things are so unfair for our minority brothers and sisters, why don't you do the right thing and give your morning anchor position with CBS to a deserving Black or Hispanic?

Come on Harry, show us your compassion in action!!

Big Media...what hypocritis!

 

Not one of you morons even

Not one of you morons even had anything nice to say about the blacks that were OPTIMISTIC about America. Man you people suck. BUH_BYE. May you all get what you so richly deserve!

Keith , I'd love to hear

Keith , I'd love to hear what Dr. King meant to you while you were growing up.

Check out my exclusive edit of BBC News America's interview with Mrs Clinton: It's news to me!

Enlighten us

Or STFU.


What doesn’t kill you, only makes you pissed off. -Children of Bodom