In an especially glowing interview with Barack Obama on Tuesday’s CBS "Early Show," co-host Harry Smith lobbed softball after softball at the Illinois Senator, including this question about the successful troop surge in Iraq: "Obama is positioning himself as a candidate for change, particularly on the war. Were you a fan of the surge?" Obama’s response was not surprising, but did defy all logic:
No. And it's fascinating to me how the surge is now being defined as a success. That central question remains -- how do we get a change in behavior amongst Sunni, Shia, and Kurds? The only way I believe to trigger that change is to send a clear signal that we are withdrawing, we're not going to have permanent bases there, we will be a partner with them to help stabilize the country, but they've got to make some decisions.
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Smith and Obama got along so well that they actually finished each other’s sentences as Smith moved on to Afghanistan:
SMITH: And it seems now that Afghanistan --
OBAMA: Is deteriorating rapidly, which is one of the reasons I objected to this war in Iraq in the first place.
Not only did Smith tee up such ideal questions for the Democratic candidate, but he also praised Obama’s ability to reach across the ideological divide: "Up in the northwest part of the state, the politics are conservative, but for a candidate locked in a tight race, every potential voter needs to be reached." At that moment in the segment there was footage of a woman in this "conservative" part of the state hugging Obama and saying, "We will caucus for Obama."
Smith, who in an October 15 interview with Obama called the Senator a "rock star," used almost poetic language as he described being on the campaign trail with the candidate:
Endless miles of snow-covered prairie roll by. Just like yesterday and not too different from tomorrow...It feels surreal talking global affairs on a custom charter bus rolling through Iowa farm country. But to get to Pennsylvania Avenue, this is the road Obama must take.
In addition, Smith described how Obama has preserved, despite attacks from the Clinton campaign:
In the final sprint to the Iowa caucuses, Obama harbors no illusions. Politics is a full-contact sport...Just days after one Clinton surrogate brought up Obama's past drug use, another, ex-Senator Bob Kerrey, was quoted playing up Obama's Muslim lineage, even though Obama is a Christian...Do you get a sense that there are some in your party who are trying to say it's not your turn?
Just yesterday, in an interview with Hillary Clinton in Iowa, Smith referred to Bill Clinton as her "attack dog" against Obama.
And Smith’s final question to Obama was truly hard-hitting: "Do you feel guilty now, doing what you're doing, being away from your family so much?"
Here is the full transcript of the segment:
HARRY SMITH: We were in Iowa, of course, all day yesterday. Chicago is where Hillary Clinton is going to be later today because she's got to raise some more money for her campaign. But it's all about how many times you get out to see the voters. There's an interesting little graphic in this morning's New York Times. It says -- it tells you how many times the different candidates have been in Iowa and made appearances there since June. Mitt Romney, 108 different campaign appearances. Mike Huckabee, 105. John McCain, 37. Now, for the Democrats, John Edwards, who's practically been living there the last four years, 179 different campaign appearances since June. Hillary Rodham Clinton, 99, and Barack Obama, 113. Appearances do matter.
BARACK OBAMA: Hey, guys.
UNIDENTIFIED VOTERS: Hi.
SMITH: 2 ½ weeks till the Iowa Caucuses, and Barack Obama begins another five-stop day.
OBAMA: Thank you so much for all the great work you guys have been doing.
SMITH: Up in the northwest part of the state, the politics are conservative, but for a candidate locked in a tight race, every potential voter needs to be reached.
UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: We will caucus for Obama.
OBAMA: I know, that's what I like.
SMITH: We caught up with Obama in Spencer, Iowa, and jumped on the bus.
OBAMA: Hey, Harry.
SMITH: Don't they supply you with overcoats out here?
OBAMA: You know --
SMITH: Endless miles of snow-covered prairie roll by. Just like yesterday and not too different from tomorrow. Do you know what day it is?
OBAMA: No.
SMITH: Poll numbers have his spirits up, even after losing the coveted "Des Moines Register" endorsement, an endorsement some say damned Clinton with faint praise.
OBAMA: It was about as good of a non-endorsement as you could get, right?
SMITH: Did you see or read the transcripts from Charlie Rose on Friday night? When Bill Clinton --
OBAMA: No, I just heard about it.
BILL CLINTON: Even when I was a governor, and young, and thought I was the best politician in the Democratic Party, I didn't run.
OBAMA: I didn't see the transcript. I didn't hear it. Here's what I know, though, just based on what I'm hearing second hand -- the irony is, is that many of the arguments that he's making now are the same arguments that George H.W. Bush was making against him.
SMITH: In the final sprint to the Iowa caucuses, Obama harbors no illusions. Politics is a full-contact sport.
BILL SHAHEEN: This is Hillary Clinton!
SMITH: Just days after one Clinton surrogate brought up Obama's past drug use, another, ex-Senator Bob Kerrey, was quoted playing up Obama's Muslim lineage, even though Obama is a Christian.
OBAMA: Bob likes to -- likes to talk. And I think it was just, you know, thinking off the top of his head about, you know, how he viewed me in this race.
SMITH: Do you get a sense that there are some in your party who are trying to say it's not your turn?
OBAMA: Well, I don't just get a sense. I think there's an entire campaign.
SMITH: Obama is positioning himself as a candidate for change, particularly on the war. Were you a fan of the surge?
OBAMA: No. And it's fascinating to me how the surge is now being defined as a success. That central question remains -- how do we get a change in behavior amongst Sunni, Shia, and Kurds? The only way I believe to trigger that change is to send a clear signal that we are withdrawing, we're not going to have permanent bases there, we will be a partner with them to help stabilize the country, but they've got to make some decisions.
SMITH: And it seems now that Afghanistan --
OBAMA: Is deteriorating rapidly, which is one of the reasons I objected to this war in Iraq in the first place.
SMITH: It feels surreal talking global affairs on a custom charter bus rolling through Iowa farm country. But to get to Pennsylvania Avenue, this is the road Obama must take.
OBAMA: Not only do I want to win an election, but I want to govern.
SMITH: And for that, there is a price. Do you feel guilty now, doing what you're doing, being away from your family so much?
OBAMA: Sometimes. Yeah. I mean, my daughter had a dance recital on Saturday. That was the first dance recital I have missed -- my younger one, fist time I've missed it since -- since she was born. And -- and it was -- it was upsetting. You know, Michelle and I talked about this very carefully before we went in. This was the first question I asked, was could our family survive the rigors of this process. Because she's so remarkable and my kids are so above average, they have thrived and they seem to be doing really well.
SMITH: And over the next couple of days, we're going to show you some sides of the candidates you've never seen before. You're watching "The Early Show" on CBS.
—Kyle Drennen is a news analyst at the Media Research Center.




















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I guess Obama wants to
December 18, 2007 - 17:31 ET by Dan The Man 2I guess Obama wants to invade Pakistan to kill the Al Queda there. The man is a walking foriegn policy disater, I wouldnt trust him at all and I doubt if the Dims are that dim. NATO is resposible for Afghanistan now, my brother who is in the USA Army is there now sow the USA is involved but not the only motivator there.
And about no permanent bases, I guess we need to leave Korea too and all the bases we established post WWII in Europe.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
In the process of an
December 18, 2007 - 17:36 ET by DaBirdIn the process of an interview isn't the reader/watcher/listener actually supposed to learn something about the interviewee? All I learned from this interview is that Harry Smith loves Barack Hussein Obama. What a waste of time.
Which Obama? This one or that one?
December 18, 2007 - 17:38 ET by Gary HallOh come on, according to Obama, he's just as willing to go to war as the next guy, or gal.
SMITH: And for that, there
December 18, 2007 - 17:54 ET by RackieSMITH: And for that, there is a price. Do you feel guilty now, doing what you're doing, being away from your family so much?
At this point my head exploded. What a stupid question. What happened to "boxers or briefs"? Enquiring minds want to know!
SMITH: Were you a fan of
December 18, 2007 - 18:21 ET by MrShySMITH: Were you a fan of the surge?
OBAMA: No. And it's fascinating to me how the surge is now being defined as a success.
?????????
SMITH: And it seems now that Afghanistan --
OBAMA: Is deteriorating rapidly, which is one of the reasons I objected to this war in Iraq in the first place.
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No, I won't be casting my vote for Barack Obama for President.
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He objected to the war
December 18, 2007 - 18:27 ET by MitchumsteinHe objected to the war because he's a FREAKING MUSLIM!!!
Oh come on . . .
December 18, 2007 - 19:30 ET by WingletDriverI thought that this sight would be more mature than the Clinton camp about spreading unfounded allegations. Let me be the voice of reason. There is absolutely no evidence that Obama is FREAKING.
Bravo Wingle
December 18, 2007 - 20:05 ET by acumenThanks for keeping things on this site above board.
And in the interest of full disclosure, polling third in Iowa Hillary is definitely the one freaking.
That said and in Mitch's defense, after reading Obama's unwillingness to retaliate after 9/11 coupled with his lack of resolve to defeat terrorists where they recruit and train, Obama is definitely to freaky to be President.
And let's cut Harry some slack. He's still bumming because he couldn't get ice cream in Baghdad.
Has Smith no integrity?
December 18, 2007 - 18:48 ET by motherbeltHas Smith no integrity? Wasn't it just yesterday he was slobbering over Her Royal Clintoness? She was the "woman of the hour" there in Iowa....
Talk about fickle.....
mb, I find Harry Smith
December 18, 2007 - 18:58 ET by Chris Normanmb,
I find Harry Smith creepy.
INTEGRITY??
December 18, 2007 - 21:03 ET by timzankYou know, I don't think it's necessarily a lack of integrity on Smiths part, but more a lack of emotional control. He seems completely awestruck in the presence of politicians (democrats that is). He gushes and goo's like a schoolgirl. His comments and questions remind of someone taking really high quality anti-depressants, just over the top.
The integrity thing was not
December 18, 2007 - 22:36 ET by motherbeltThe integrity thing was not serious. I guess I should have used <sarc>
I sometimes forget that it's not always obvious to people, especially those who aren't familiar with my postings.
I do agree with you about the being awestruck, tho. I said in another thread, that's what happens in this country because we make our politicians into "rock stars": the media end up acting like "groupies" rather than doing their journalistic duty.
Obama's a liberal so he's
December 18, 2007 - 21:08 ET by KeithObama's a liberal so he's short on "logic", however the "illogical" portion of his remarks is not what you highlighted.
"No. And it's fascinating to me how the surge is now being defined as a success."
Seems to me that there were "two parts" to the surge. The first was to quell sectarian violence, which the surge has indeed done to some degree by all accounts. The second part of the "surge" was the "political surge" that the military "surge" would ENABLE. This has been an unqualified DISASTER unless you think Iraqis taking the SUMMER OFF while our troops are dying, qualifies as "success". So, while I despise a filthy child killer like Obama, who voted to MURDER THE BABIES WHO SURVIVE ABORTION AND WHO IS UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE, CHRISTIAN, he is right about the war in Iraq being a royal clusterf*ck. These are the words of Bush.
Wednesday, January 10, 2007; 9:10 PM
SPEAKER: PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH
Our troops will have a well-defined mission: to help Iraqis clear and secure neighborhoods (partially accomplished) to help them protect the local population ( partially accomplished), and to help ensure that the Iraqi forces left behind are capable of providing the security that Baghdad needs. (failure to date)
To establish its authority, the Iraqi government plans to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November. (WHAT'S THE DATE OH, KOOL AID DRINKERS?) FAILURE.
This is for all of you who have sold out Jesus for TAX CUTS and want to "parse" Huck's tremendously balanced foreign policy initiative and object to anything that has us sounding HUMAN. What about Bush? Bush said the mission was defined and that the military surge was inextricably LINKED to the political surge WHICH HAS NOT HAPPENED and IS NOT IN SIGHT! How any of you can regard this action as "honorable" is frankly, beyond me. Your intellectual DISHONESTY is frightening. This war was a MISTAKE, undertaken on FRAUDULENT GROUNDS! Where are the WMD'S? Man, the moment we found out that there were no weapons there we should have headed for the exit.
I don't give a damn about "freedom" in Iraq. These are a savage people who have a satanic system of "religious worship" that is COMPLETELY incompatible with democracy and only a numbnutz who knows NOTHING about ISLAM would think ANY different! HUCK was right that Bush hasn't given the American people an accurate understanding of their enemy! He told us to GO SHOPPING so how could he "help us" understand our enemy when his dumb ass still thinks that ISLAM is a "religion of peace". ROFLMAO! As for all that "bringing freedom and democracy" to the Iraqis, the lives of 10,000 Iraqi "Christian Killers" aren't worth the life of ONE U.S. SOLDIER! Bush sucks LONG LIVE HUCKABEE!
Don't Hold Back Now,
December 18, 2007 - 21:17 ET by timzankKeith, Let it out! Don't sugarcoat it! Newsflash: It's a war, shit happens and NEVER on schedule.
didn't see this on DU
December 18, 2007 - 21:24 ET by acumenMaybe Keith just needs to get out more tim.
From the link -
BAGHDAD — Iraq's Shiite-dominated government has agreed to take over support of a U.S.-funded plan that has organized thousands of Iraqis — including former insurgents and their sympathizers — into local security groups.
The move is a long-awaited step toward national reconciliation, said Saad al-Muttalibi, an official at Iraq's Ministry of National Dialogue and Reconciliation.
"It's now reassuring that the government of Iraq recognizes that this is a program that has worked in Anbar and is beginning to work elsewhere in the country," said Rear Adm. Gregory Smith, a U.S. military spokesman.
oh, if only. I'd like to
December 19, 2007 - 01:40 ET by Keithoh, if only. I'd like to point out that "taking over support" of a PLAN is nebulous at best, this late in the game. However it is good news.
timzank
December 18, 2007 - 21:31 ET by MrShyNo tim, war is not war. War is a business venture that starts out with a business plan, then it is implemented with hired employees, rented office space, assigned titles, accountants, etc..
Then, after the business has been in operation for a little while, you take stock in it and assess how things are going and determine how well it's been "managed", and if the goals set forth in the mission statement have been acheived. This would be based on things like gross and net revenues, quarterly earnings, and so on.
Geez. What did you think war was?
I didn't know Keith had so many loopy talking points in him concerning the war. Apparently, he does.
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"I didn't know Keith had so
December 19, 2007 - 02:28 ET by Keith"I didn't know Keith had so many loopy talking points in him concerning the war. Apparently, he does."
You know, it takes a lot to offend me but somehow you've managed. I don't know what the hell you mean by "talking points", are you implying that someone else gave me these thoughts to think, or somehow influenced my thinking in some way? That's bullcraap.
I supported the war because of the bullcrapp about WMD. NOT FOR NO DAMNED IRAQIS. How many of you would have sent our soldiers to their deaths to "free" the Iraqi people from the tyrant Saddam Hussein? You gung ho, never picked up a gun "conservatives" are hilarious.
If George Bush had come before the American People and said, "My fellow Americans, there's been a horrible injustice that's been a-goin' on for a long time. And those Iraqi people who are children of God just like us, even though they wouldn't consider US to be children of God, NEED OUR HELP. I want to send FOUR THOUSAND of your children to DIE for these people who murder Christians in their land. Freedom is God's gift to man blah blah blah..." How many of you GUNG-Ho never stood a post, S.O.B'S would have been rarin' to go?
Well I wouldn't. I don't give a DAMN about the Iraqi people or ANY Muslims! Because I know what Islam is and apparently you don't. ISLAM will NEVER be compatible with DEMOCRACY it CAN'T BE! The word that you all have your orgasms over, "FREEDOM" is anathema to ISLAM. It is DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to every single thing in the KORAN.
This is ANOTHER grievous fault of George Bush's. He has FAILED to make little war hawks like you understand the fight you're in. And in a "C in C" that's unforgivable. The trouble is that you think everyone in the world is like YOU. You drag Christmas trees home feeling good with yourselves and "closer" to God with your delusion. You feel that you can do whatever you want and worship Jesus and he'll accept it. MATT 7:21-23
21.Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Jesus would beg to differ. Other people in other parts of the world ACTUALLY BELIEVE the words of THEIR "holy " book, unlike most of you. And spare me the hollow cries about how much you follow the bible, If you did, you'd be baptized properly! And when someone like myself points out how the catholic church DECEIVED you regarding as paramount an issue as BAPTISM, you'd run to the nearest Pentecostal Church that would baptize you according to the Bible, Acts 2:38. But you don't, secure in your lukewarm apathy you drag your stupid CHRISTMAS TREE into the house like a HEATHEN. Jeremiah 10:2-5
2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
And even when someone takes the time to SHOW you how GOD feels about such a heathen display, most of you will call me a ZEALOT and drag your tree into your house.
Well, not everyone is so "cavalier" about their faith as you are, heathens! LOL. Ever wonder why no "moderate" Muslims speak out when something goes BOOM? Because there are no MODERATE muslims, there are practicing muslims and apostates. That's it. Islam doesn't recognize the "CAFETERIA MUSLIM". The dirty truth which GWB never told you is that the Muslims that are blowing our asses up ARE the GOOD MUSLIMS! They are the ones who are FOLLOWING the dictates of their "faith"! That's why NO AMERICAN soldier should EVER be sacrificed on their satanic altar.
O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (Koran, 9:73)
Perhaps you wondered from whence came this penchant for BEHEADING PEOPLE?
"When you meet the unbelievers in jihad [holy war], chop off their heads. And when you have brought them low, bind your prisoners rigorously. Then set them free or take ransom from them until the war is ended." (Koran, 47:4)
"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be to be killed or crucified, or to have their hands and feet chopped off on opposite sides, or to be expelled out of the land. Such will be their humiliation in the world, and in the next world they will face an awful horror." (Koran, 5:33-34)
"When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet sin. So that Allah's word is proven true against them, then we destroy them utterly." (Koran, 17:16-17)
"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)
"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran, 21:11)
"Remember Allah inspired the angels: I am with you. Give firmness to the believers. I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: you smite them above their necks and smite all their fingertips off of them." (Koran, 8:12)
You numbs can talk all that freedom junk you want but I wouldn't piss on 'em if they were on FIRE! KNOW YOUR ENEMY, FOR HE KNOWS YOU.
Watch your assumptions
December 18, 2007 - 21:44 ET by KC MulvilleKeith, you're measuring Iraq's political reconciliation exclusively on the escapades of the central government. Do you measure the health of American democracy exclusively on the level of squabbling among members of Congress? If so, you'd miss out on the vast majority of what makes democracy work in this country.
Democracy in Iraq works the same way. The central government is the last and worst barometer of real progress. That was what Petraeus and Crocker were talking about in their testimony. Business is returning, life is returning, and Iraqis are returning in droves. Baghdad will follow, not lead, where the real reconciliation is taking place. Don't get me wrong, Baghdad is immensely important. But the progress isn't coming from there.
Well said sir, well said.
December 19, 2007 - 02:56 ET by KeithWell said sir, well said. You made many salient points about how "democracy" is measured. Problem is, there will NEVER be democracy in a predominantly Muslim country. If you think that what they have in say, Turkey, is democracy go there and open up a church and see what happens to you. Look, I'm sort of a "armchair" geo-political strategist and If Bush'd said, "Well, we're a little "iffy" on the WMD, but Saddam did violate all those resolutions! Plus given the rise of Muslim extremism the WORLD over we can see where this things going. The reason we couldn't "get" Saddam before was because the muslim nations wouldn't give us "flyover" permission for our bombing runs and they wouldn't allow our carriers to sit in their waters for refueling. So, we need to knock off this "low hanging fruit" so won't NEED anyone's permission to do anything!"
Id've been ON BOARD! But that's not what Bush did. Bush turned around and promised that we would NOT be the puppeteer for Iraq, he turned around and gave them their "sovreignity"! He swore before the world that if we needed something from Iraq, we'd have to ask like anybody else! So, minus the WMD, minus the flyover and refueling, all we're left with is the Iraqi people most of whom don't even WANT democracy? And when I say "don't want" democracy that's exactly what I mean. These are an intensely religious people problem is that you confuse the desire not to be killed summarily with some desire for Arby's on every corner.! They don't want their women to be whores like most of OURS. They want VIRGINS when they get married as well as when they die! They don't want their young men taking it up the ass and calling it natural! They don't want "porn stars" giving the President their "endorsement". There's in fact, very little of our "freedom" that they DO want! And for the little that we will get out of all of this, it sounds like a very bad deal to me.
Fair point
December 19, 2007 - 13:18 ET by KC MulvilleWhen I think of democracy in Iraq, I honestly don't think of it in the same terms as apple pie and softball games. That's culture, not a system of government. When I say democracy, I mean it in the narrowest technical terms, which means that every citizen has a real vote.
A stable Iraq is attractive to us, for several reasons. A stable source of oil will moderate the oil market. A stable Iraq will help Iran from getting too cocky. But perhaps more than anything else, a friendly Iraq will disprove the radical Islamic accusation that the west is trying to kill Islam. The terrorist argument is that you can't haggle with the US because the Americans want Islam dead. A stable and prosperous Iraq, on good relations with the US, would be the ultimate proof that we can do business with anyone. We punish treachery, but we reward cooperation. Strategically, it's the ultimate leverage in diplomacy: we can be trusted. We keep our word.
If we can get a stable Iraq, and establish that reputation, it'll prevent more conflicts in the future, and it will save lives. It will all be worth it.
Keith
December 19, 2007 - 15:37 ET by MrShy"Problem is, there will NEVER be democracy in a predominantly Muslim country."
If that's true, then a lot of democratic Europe is fast approaching a tipping point crisis. Oh, and this gave me a chuckle Keith, sorry:
"it takes a lot to offend me..."
Um, no it doesn't. From what I've witnessed on NB, it takes next to nothing.
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I read this again...
December 18, 2007 - 21:13 ET by MrShyNo. And it's fascinating to me how the surge is now being defined as a success.
That central question remains -- how do we get a change in behavior
amongst Sunni, Shia, and Kurds? The only way I believe to trigger that
change is to send a clear signal that we are withdrawing, we're not
going to have permanent bases there, we will be a partner with them to
help stabilize the country, but they've got to make some decisions.
This man has no plan and no clue.
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Got Oprah?
December 18, 2007 - 21:18 ET by acumenThis man has no plan and no clue.
Maybe Oprah will buy them for her new studmuffin.
Barack = studmuffin (yikes)
December 18, 2007 - 21:30 ET by MrShyBarack = studmuffin (yikes) :p
He is really about as hollow as they come. I've heard him talk so many times, whether in interviews, in debates, and I have no idea how he even rose to the prominence he's at now.
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Dittos Mr Shy
December 18, 2007 - 21:37 ET by acumenThe poor guy is way in over his head. Yet there he is - a serious contender for the dem nod. What does that say about dem voters? And don't you know al qaeda is drooling at the possibility of this guy getting elected. I wonder why? And what kind of message is Obama sending to our new partners in Iraq and Afghanistan? No wondering about that.
Democrat "product line"
December 18, 2007 - 21:54 ET by nkviking75A party that can make an empty suit like John Edwards a serious contender has no discernment whatsoever.
Years ago the Dems excused Reagan's triumphs as marketing and packaging. They apparently bought into that notion, because they're "products" are little more than marketing and packaging.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
We're going to withdraw the
December 18, 2007 - 22:43 ET by motherbeltWe're going to withdraw the troops but we're going to help them stabilize the country? How? Written instructions????
Talk about "magical thinking!"
motherbelt
December 18, 2007 - 22:53 ET bypersonal gyroscopes, millions and millions of em
"how would i know? if i knew everything i'd run for God" ----crpl Klinger
<Giggling>
December 18, 2007 - 23:19 ET by motherbelt<Giggling>
But motherbelt, we need to
December 18, 2007 - 22:54 ET by MrShyBut motherbelt, we need to get troops out of harm's way. That's really the concern of liberals, that soldiers could be harmed while being soldiers.
Really, they're all for the war and securing the peace, but we need to send people other than soldiers into the theater of battle to achieve this. Got any suggestions?
(won't bother with the sarc on/off switch...)
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Mr. Shy....someone should
December 18, 2007 - 23:24 ET by motherbeltAnd you have to remember, Mr. Shy, that their idea of keeping troops there is to garrison them in an armed camp and have them stay inside and not get involved.
Someone should tell them...
LIFE.....is dangerous.
Nobama + HilLIARy
December 19, 2007 - 07:34 ET by Six String SpiffWhy is it that 'Liberals' never care what the RESULTS of a plan is, but rather how good the INTENTIONS were? Obama is good for one thing only. And that is pissing all over Hillary's campaign. All these stupid liberals want 'change' but what good is change when the man has ZERO experience? Same thing with the LIAR. Our fore fathers WAAAAAY overestimated us, evidently. For I am SURE they never envisioned their beloved country's citizens, to be so RETARDED as to choose a President based on things like what's on their freakin iPOD, and how much 'Rock star status' (BARF) they have. HilLIARY and Obama have absolutely no business being up on those podiums. I don't know about the rest of the country, but I sure as hell don't want someone in the oval office who has said "I can't recall" More times than a mob boss.
It is a slap in the founding fathers faces that we, as a nation, have slipped SO FAR out of reality that those two could have even contemplated running for POTUS. It makes me sick to my stomach to watch our society slip into such irresponsibility that any random person on the street knows more about a god damn 'Reality' show than they do about their own government. Oh but it's KEWL to hate the government these days isn't it? The very same people that hate the government want to elect somebody based purely on 'change'. Despicable
HilLIARy and Obomination are this country's Constitutional integrity test. Will we be more concerned with trivial, INANE things like 'Rock star' status, and good intentions, or will we wake up and remember there are people out there that want us dead simply because we exist? The most important election in our country's history.
Six String Spiff
December 19, 2007 - 15:51 ET by MrShyThank you.
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It looks like Smith has a
December 19, 2007 - 07:41 ET by AntiMediaIt looks like Smith has a man crush for Obama.
Every time I hear the word
December 19, 2007 - 09:09 ET by ArchConservativeEvery time I hear the word change it makes me want to cringe. Maybe it's because everytime they come up with a slogan, it is totally meaningless when you analyze it. Change for what? Even in their slogan they have no specifics. It's infuriating.
I think that one of the Republicans should say the following:
"I want everyone to take a bill out of your wallet. Now, everytime a candidate says they want to make a change, know that they will only leave you with change out of that bill. Everytime you hear the word "change" think tax hike. Think "less freedom". Think "more government control in your life".
You support the troops by supporting the mission!
Has anyone figured out that
December 19, 2007 - 15:43 ET by TheDeuceHas anyone figured out that Obama is only there to make Hillary look like a centrist? She gets to 'move right' while standing still. Hell, she's leaning left and lying right to a media who won't acll her on her BS.
C'mon, Barrack's got the same chance Jesse Jackson had...and the libs will blame 'some conservatives' for 'rejecting' a black candidate, and use it to puff up dems nationwide.
Why is it that lefties believe that 'the people' noted in the 2nd are different than the 'the people' mentioned elsewhere in the Bill of Rights?