Perhaps David Frum is jealous of all the media adoration Kathleen Parker now receives. Knowing he would be challenged on other media outlets, as he was previously on Mark Levin’s radio show, Frum appeared with MSNBC's Chris Matthews tonight. He talked about his recent column in Newsweek titled on the magazine's cover as "A Conservative's Case Against Rush Limbaugh."
Appearing on Hardball to plug his anti-Limbaugh Newsweek article denotes that Frum knew he would be addressing not only the Obama White House but also the mainly liberal fans of MSNBC.
If Frum was truly interested in endearing his article to a right of center audience, obviously, he would have been all over Fox News before he went to MSNBC. Just the fact that Frum wrote his piece in Newsweek and not a conservative publication will make conservatives wonder if Frum will do a political 180 a la Arianna Huffington.
Matthews jumped on the opportunity to prod Frum to say (or at least imply) that Limbaugh is a racist. (My emphasis added throughout) :
MATTHEWS: Do you think he's got a race problem?
FRUM: He sometimes talks that way.
MATTHEWS: Lean over grab your ankles... that thing.
FRUM: Sometimes, he talks that way. I don’t know whether it’s conscious or...but I went through how many times between inauguration day and the present that he’s made a comment about President Obama being invulnerable to criticism because of his race. I found five instances…one a week. That’s sort of a lot.
It seems as if Frum is more than happy to elaborate on Limbaugh’s so-called "race problem." Matthews jumps in with the Donovan McNabb brouhaha over Limbaugh, while Frum cedes Matthews.
MATTHEWS: There’s sort of a nag he does. Like he does that about Donovan McNabb…the Eagle quarterback, like he’s only given praise, because he’s black.
FRUM: That’s one time.
MATTEWS: He plays this sort of weird…
FRUM: As we all know, I’ve said on-air things I wish hadn't said thirty seconds later.
You mean like just now, Mr. Frum, or will you proudly proclaim later that you were pretty much calling Limbaugh a racist on MSNBC? Such an exchange is amusing right before Frum later complains that the GOP has “this image of being a party that’s unsympathetic to minorities.”
MATTHEWS: Yeah, I know, we all make mistakes, but there’s a theme there. He’s like saying, ‘Don’t give the guy a break.’ It’s almost like he’s benefiting from some quota system. Barack Obama won the election against a guy. He didn’t get any appointment here.
FRUM: Whatever is in his head, I don’t know. This is not…this is ,again, dangerous. The Republican Party has this image of being a party that’s unsympathetic to minorities, and Michael Steele works fiendishly in order to overcome that negative image.
Here’s a clue for Mr. Frum and others like him. When he trashes Limbaugh, he is essentially insulting millions of people who share Limbaugh’s sentiment. Frum is attacking a large segment of the GOP, while claiming he is trying to help. If this is Frum’s idea of helping the Republican Party, many will not want to see what his idea is for hurting the GOP.
Excited he is able to add another token squish as a probable program regular, Matthews demands that Frum not apologize over the Newsweek article.
MATTHEWS: Well, you know what I said when I came out here, David. You have changed your life with this article. You will be the man that shot Liberty Valance. You will be the guy that took on Rush Limbaugh. Just don’t apologize.
For those not acquainted with western movie classics, Liberty Valance is the title character of a 1962 western film. Valance, played by Lee Marvin, is a criminal who terrorizes the town folk and is killed in a shootout. This is a predictable comparison coming from Matthews, but Frum, once again, wilts.
FRUM: I’m going to be the face under (inaudible)
MATTHEWS: Do me a favor. Don’t apologize. You’re a journalist... you don’t have to. You can make mistakes, but just don’t do that thing. Anyway... thanks, David Frum. Congratulations, you’ve written an article. You’re a literary politician at least.
Matthews is unapologetically proclaiming that it’s okay for journalists to make mistakes so long as a liberal agenda is delivered to the audience. Apparently, Frum is delivering just that message.
Cross Posted at Picketlines.org
Update: Movie reference corrected
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Frum the Scum on Hardball
March 9, 2009 - 21:10 ET by BarkerSo, David Frum is playing the race card now, huh?
That's mighty liberal of you David. And pathetic.
"MATTHEWS: Do me a favor.
March 9, 2009 - 21:12 ET by winston smith"MATTHEWS: Do me a favor. Don’t apologize. You’re a journalist you don’t have to."
That about sums up today's msm. In other words, don't be objective just follow the standard media rule book on American politics: Conservatives are always wrong, bad, creepy and stupid and liberals are always correct, loveable, popular and excused. They still don't realize that Rush's popularity is iron-clad and all of their efforts serve to make Rush more popular while making the media look petty. Obama made the mistake of taking the first shot at Limbaugh and now the media follow suit in a laughable attempt to make it appear legit. And we're all laughing --- even them!
Yes! Don't apologise! Never. Never. Never.
March 9, 2009 - 21:26 ET by JWFThe Democrats LOVE you now.
ugh
March 9, 2009 - 21:29 ET by katainkent"Do me a favor. Don’t apologize. You’re a journalist... you don’t have to"
well, doesnt that just say volumes.
The attitude of nitwits...
March 10, 2009 - 10:21 ET by heldmyw..Like 'Shrum the Scum' and 'Tingles the Clown'.
If only...
March 9, 2009 - 21:37 ET by P. AaronIf only Newsweak had readers. If only PMS-NBC had viwers.
Ofcourse he has a race
March 9, 2009 - 21:39 ET by mostlymoderateOfcourse he has a race problem. He's successful, he's a conservative, he's male and he's white. Race card always will be played.
"he Republican Party has
March 9, 2009 - 21:40 ET by rbosque"The Republican Party has this image of being a party that’s unsympathetic to minorities..."
Does this mean that while G.W. was in charge the left-wing MSM & Democrats were unsympathetic to whites??
I'm Hispanic. I support Rush.
Piss on 'em.
"The Republican Party has
March 9, 2009 - 22:03 ET by krendler"The Republican Party has this image of being a party that’s unsympathetic to minorities..."
Another way of saying "The Republican Party has this image of not pandering to blacks and race-baiting the way the Democratic party does."
So now they are going to
March 9, 2009 - 21:44 ET by bigtimerSo now they are going to use the race-card some more here eh...it's not like this theme isn't going to be on other shows now...trust me, it will be coming...since they cannot get many significant politicians they have on various shows to go against Rush the way they want them to...they will now use the race-card against Rush and use this as a ploy to think they are going to be boxing them in...and for some of the weak-kneed pols, it will work.
They are after Rush and after him big-time, and when I say they, I mean all of the leftist machine to kill two birds with one stone...Rush and the FCC reinstating the Fairness Doctrine.
Oh, the irony.
March 9, 2009 - 22:05 ET by krendler" but I went through how many times between inauguration day to the
present he’s made a comment about President Obama being invulnerable to
criticism because of his race. I found five instances…one a week.
That’s sort of a lot."
First of all, it's true (Obama being invulnerable to
criticism because of his race) and everyone in the MSM knows it. Secondly, considering that no one at the likes of MS-NBC or CNN would ever have the balls to actually state it, I figure once a week by Rush sort of balances things out.
And the irony is, of course, is that Rush is being accused of having "a race problem" specifically because he's become known as Obama's most vocal critic. Matthews and Frum make Rush's point for him.
Rush: You didn't get the the message: Don't criticize Obama. He's black. And you know what happens when you criticize someone, and they happen to be black...
Limbaugh is in good company. There are a number of recent examples of other public figures, also critical of Obama, who were thrown under the bus by the MSM, blacks and liberals as having a "race problem": The names Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro come to mind.
By the way, did Obama ever apologize to McCain or the Republican party for saying "and they're going to remind you I'm black"? The only entity that has reminded us that Obama is black and oh-so-historic, 24/7 since inauguration day, is the media.
Nothing even slightly new here. Don't criticize Obama or you're going to be called a racist by the feeble-minded, race-baiting left. Been going on for 18 months now.
Modus Operandi
March 10, 2009 - 16:21 ET by jdlybrandRight out of Jesse Jackson's playbook. If you make sense on any issue... you're a Christian radical, racist, sexist. war-mongering, homophobe. And the American people buy it like the flavor of the month.
Welcome to the United States of the Offended.
I say... Give em' Hell Rush!
This is pathetic. First,
March 9, 2009 - 22:10 ET by gueinThis is pathetic. First, it's Scott McClellan; now David Frum. It's the ole Potomac two-step.
Lets not forget Newt
March 9, 2009 - 22:25 ET by doug1950Old Newty is playing both sides now too. I got a call from his new organization the other day wanting a donation. I told them to go piss up a rope.
Same thing for GOP calls. They call wanting money to defeat the dems. Ask them how giving them money is going prevent those Republicans that vote with the Democrats from doing so. It gets real quiet on the line. There are more people out there calling themselves "conservative" who are no where close to being conservative. Frum is only one of many.
doug... I'm with you
March 9, 2009 - 22:31 ET by bigtimerdoug...
I'm with you here...I have done the same thing as you have too.
Me, too.
March 9, 2009 - 23:53 ET by TexndocNo more "organizations". Just people in name only will get my contributions. Like Sarah Palin, or whoever runs against Benedict Arlen.
GOP Fundraising calls
March 10, 2009 - 07:28 ET by jmtI've received two calls from the GOP since the "stimulus" was passed and I told them that I would resume donations once they could guarantee that Collins, Snow, and Specter would not stray off the reservation.
It was telling that one caller let slip that "we're hearing that a lot these days." Keep it up; maybe Steele & Co. are getting the message.
jmt
http://www.jmichaelt.org
If they use the "race" card, they're not conservatives
March 9, 2009 - 22:25 ET by jefflebowskiAnyone who uses the R word is not a conservative. It is the mantra of the left...who has ran out of ideas generations ago. All they have left is to cry racism where none exists. Also, any so-called conservative who goes on MSNBC has something to sell that conservatives aren't buying.
Angry White Dude
www.angrywhitedude.c...
Racism?
March 9, 2009 - 23:08 ET by slickwillie2001"Matthews: Yeah, I know, we all make mistakes, but there’s a theme there. He’s like saying, ‘Don’t give the guy a break’. It's almost like he’s benefiting from some quota system. Barack Obama won the election against a guy. He didn’t get any appointment here."
Obama has benefited from Affirmative Action, the liberals favorite form of racism, his entire life. It got him into every college he went to, it got him good grades, it got him his job as a lawyer (which gave him a place to write his book) and it got him a pass from the liberal media in the Presidential campaign. Even today he benefits from Affirmative Action, when his clinging supporters see racism in any criticism of him.
Obama's Affirmative Action however ends on our borders. When Obammy writes a letter to Khameini and they kick sand in his face, he is flummoxed. He expected the Iranians to fawn all over him like his teachers and managers did all his life. He doesn't understand why Putin doesn't love him already. He treated Brown the way he has treated people all his life and suddenly people are calling him rude. He feels like he has entered a twilight zone, but what has really happened is that he has stepped outside the low-expectations low-performance bubble of Affirmative Action.
I don't have a 'race problem' and I don't believe Rush does, but I have a problem with the putrid reverse racism displayed by democratics and liberals in the media.
Kerry plain and simple
March 9, 2009 - 23:34 ET by nwahsAre you saying Frum is NOT going to be on Fox News? You most certainly implied it. Are you implying he's going to do softball interviews only ? You think thats factually correct? What's you beef - first in line? Did you talk to Fox News and see if it was scheduling?
What are you implicating here? Maybe Jay Nordlinger can put a saber rattling spin on this eh? Somehow, none of these type of questions were in his self-righteous article. Just attack and destroy like a zombie robot - void of reason.
You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich
Rush a racist? No way!
March 10, 2009 - 00:00 ET by Ragamuffin"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
Rush Limbaugh to a black female caller
Rm... Cute by a
March 10, 2009 - 00:07 ET by bigtimerRm...
Cute by a half...just a regular riot.
Got anything more recent
March 10, 2009 - 08:42 ET by SickofLibsGot anything more recent than the 1970s?
(edit: oops, wrong place - that was for the rag)
"Take that bone out of your
March 10, 2009 - 08:38 ET by Newsbusterbrown"Take that bone out of your nose and call me back."
Rush Limbaugh to a black female caller
I keep hearing about this, but I have yet to hear a full transcript of the exchange for full context. If it were released, most likely liberals wouldn't be able to use it anymore to beat Rush up with. Of course, that hasn't stopped them from lying about Rush's statements concerning Obama lately.
“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
You can of course prove
March 10, 2009 - 17:57 ET by James2306You can of course prove that he said this right?
Pacifism is a luxury bought with the blood of the valorous
Hi James... Obvious now
March 10, 2009 - 18:07 ET by bigtimerHi James...
Obvious now since I replied last night that ragamuffin is another Drive-By troll...just a trollin'.
Perhaps I have a life?
March 13, 2009 - 16:56 ET by RagamuffinPerhaps I have a life?
Raga... So do I...I can't
March 13, 2009 - 17:04 ET by bigtimerRaga... So do I...I can't be here all day and evening too, and my kids are grown ...so why don't you just answer the question James asked you...
Prove IT!
If he was that interested
March 14, 2009 - 01:52 ET by RagamuffinIf he was that interested in debunking it he'd look the statement up.
Which is trivial to do. Read the October 8th 1990 Newsday where he does an interview and expresses regret for saying it:
“You may interpret it as that, but I, no, honest-to-God, that’s not
how I intended it at all. Gee, don’t get me in this one. I am the least
racist host you’ll ever find.” Recalling a stint as an “insult-radio”
DJ in Pittsburgh, he admits feeling guilty about, for example, telling
a black listener he could not understand to “take that bone out of your
nose and call me back.”
Happy now?
I am not happy. You are a needler.
March 14, 2009 - 02:29 ET by JWFDid you or did you not read my comments below?
This is a clear example of argument by selective observation aka cherry picking
The man took a remark made by Mr. Limbaugh 30-odd years ago in a fit of anger and applied it to the man himself. As if we are all racists because at some point in our life, we said something that was overtly or benignly racist most probably sometime in our youth.
It is also an example of needling, another fallacy. He was attempting to stir the hornets nest by making us angry and not actually addressing the argument at hand. (Mr. Frum's attention seeking before liberal audiences)
You are dishonest. You are a needler. You are a race baiter for bringing up a youthful indescretion and then trying to use it to smear the current man.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
You have a life? Maybe.
March 14, 2009 - 01:27 ET by RESTLESS 1You have a life? Maybe. Proof of you statement, no. Run along.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
James, I tried to track
March 11, 2009 - 03:06 ET by JerJames, I tried to track this one down months ago. I believe the consensus is Rush did say it or something very close to that, but it was back before he was nationally syndicated--while he had a radio talk show in Sacramento. So, it was many years ago.
Jer
I thought we taught you better Uncle Jer.
March 14, 2009 - 00:33 ET by JWFThis is a clear example of argument by selective observation aka cherry picking
The man took a remark made by Mr. Limbaugh 30-odd years ago in a fit of anger and applied it to the man himself. As if we are all racists because at some point in our life, we said something that was overtly or benignly racist most probably sometime in our youth.
It is also an example of needling, another fallacy. He was attempting to stir the hornets nest by making us angry and not actually addressing the argument at hand. (Mr. Frum's attention seeking before liberal audiences)
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
I appreciate your comments,
March 14, 2009 - 01:22 ET by JerI appreciate your comments, JWF...Just out of curiosity, why are they addressed to me?
Jer
Cuz we all like Uncle Jer.
March 14, 2009 - 01:44 ET by JWFAnd we should have been reading the statements FROM him rather than in response TO him. I too had to look it up. Duplicating your efforts. Call em out teh way you sees em Uncle Jer. Uncle Jer is not a needler and does not tolerate teh needlin'.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Afraid there's still a few holdouts, JWF
March 14, 2009 - 02:00 ET by JerCuz we all like Uncle Jer.
Afraid there's still a few holdouts, JWF. Or else they have an awfully funny way of showing me the "love".
Checking out. See ya later.
Jer
FRUM: I’m going to be the face under (inaudible)
March 10, 2009 - 00:06 ET by CTNo David, you're going to be the up looking face on the bottom of my bird cage.
Every time the left-wingers
March 10, 2009 - 00:16 ET by mostlymoderateEvery time the left-wingers cry racism, they essentially validate our claim that Obama uses race as a "shield" from criticism. Most of the MSM is afraid of being called a racist. Fortunately, Rush Limbaugh is not afraid of being called racist. That's why he tells the truth no matter how politically incorrect it might be.
Just because something is politically incorrect does not mean it isn't true.
I know it's petty, but...
March 10, 2009 - 00:21 ET by SlyrrThese idiots in the press are digging their own grave. I read the NYT is having to lease out parts of their headquarters to other businesses to keep their heads above water.
Because of their foul descent into lies and propaganda, I will shed no tears when the NYT departs to the dung heap of media history. Time to pull a Teri Schivo on this old gray lady and see how THEY like it.
And the Chris 'I've got thrills in my pants for Obama' Matthews network will soon follow. These liars and scoundrels are bleeding viewers, readers and money faster than water from your toilet goes down to the sewers.
And their crowned King Obama (who Matthews says it's 'his job' to make look good) is aiding in their deaths by driving the country to communism and destroying the economy. Way to slit your own throats, geniuses.
Wait a minute Rag
March 10, 2009 - 00:28 ET by clubchamp6Was it not Eric Holder who said that we were a country of Cowards when it comes to talking about race?
No outrage from anyone on the left on that one.
Yet when someone on the right says anything about race that is honest but may sting a little they are called racist.
You are so full of shi-,
Was it not the Reverend Lowery that said "the whites can finally get it right" at the inaguration?
No outrage from the left on that one either.
I truly believe that Obama hates white people and wants to make us pay for what he percieves as injustices to other races over the years. That is really bringing people together isn't it.
You want to have an open dialogue my a ss. You want to beat us over the head with the race bat and I for one will not take it.
PS. When I drive around and see White men driving there Subarus w/ Obama stickers on them I just shake my head.
Obama is using them and they are to stupid to even realize it. Why?
Because they are ball less wussy's who live with stupid liberal wives who shower once a week and haven't seen a blow drier or razor in months.
As Dwight said on The Office " this week. " I have the ability to make my penis go back up inside myself"
That is liberal white men.
I think it makes people even
March 10, 2009 - 00:42 ET by mostlymoderateI think it makes people even more bigoted. I think a lot of white people are realizing just how ludicrous it is that blacks can be on every T.V. show, every news show, every radio, on the cover of every magazine, on the Supreme Court of the U.S AND be the President of the United States but STILL claim black people are being held back some how by the evil, white man. I think a lot of people are sick of it and afraid to even talk to a person of another race. Sorry, just my honest, politically-incorrect view of things.
"The Republican Party has
March 10, 2009 - 01:15 ET by RR GOP"The Republican Party has this image of being a party that’s unsympathetic to minorities"
Well, golly gee...I wonder where that 'image' was spawned? Hmmm.
And, no, we don't believe in giving black people money, jobs and houses just because they're black. That's racist, condescending and un-American.
We believe in maintaining a system/country where everyone can rise based upon their merits, talents and hard work. If this country was truly like that the Liberal Democrats would be out of business...and they know it.
How insulting and embarrassing that these types walk around patting the Brothers and Essays on their heads saying, "There there now. We know you're too stupid and lazy to take care of yourselves, so we'll do it for you!"
One of the 24% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 89% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
IHMO, there's no perhaps about Frum's
March 10, 2009 - 02:49 ET by TeddyIHMO, there's no perhaps about Frum's being jealous of all the adoration that Kathleen Parker has received, Kerry.
So let's allow him to get his 15 minutes of "I'm Not A Conservative, But I Play One On TV" fame, and be done with the punk.
I'm just glad that Rush doesn't have any children, or Frum and Newsweek probably would've gone after them too, a'la Olbermann with Doocy and Dobbs.
Liberty Vallance?!
March 10, 2009 - 03:27 ET by Michael30Now, I actually think the comparisson is pretty accurate... Jimmy Stewart DIDN'T kill Marvin in that movie. John Wayne did. The rationale why Wayne gave Stewart recognition for the kill was that Stewart should be given the credit because it would make the town believe in "Good" agian. Wayne was basically a gunfighter who was no better than Marvin, whereas Stewart was the town's good guy.
Now, a liberal attacking Rush isn't much in the way of "news," but a conservative attacking him, well now, that makes the "Town" happier now doesn't it. In a way, Mathews choosing of that film is oddly approrpriate. The left tries to gun Rush down and pin the tin star on a conservative to make it nice and playable.
I can't belive I'm 30 and know that movie, provided I'm thinking of the right movie that is...
Mike
You are indeed right, Michael30
March 10, 2009 - 03:47 ET by JerYou are indeed right, Michael30...
although I think Valance only has one "L" in it. And, I would imagine most folks here wish Wayne had shot Jane Fonda instead of Marvin.
Jer
Whups! Just remembered I'm confusing the movie with Cat Ballou. Never mind.
Jer,
March 10, 2009 - 04:17 ET by Michael30Wasn't "Cat Ballou" the one with Jack Pallance and his horse leaning on the wall drunk? Awww, crap, I'm digging myself deeper here with the old Western movie knowledge...
Not too sure how to spell Vallance (or Valance,) I'm still on a dial-up thing. I'd be here until noon if I did a search (much less a spell-check) on everything I write.
Either way, I can't say that Fonda is on my list of Favorite People in the World, but John Wayne shooting her might be a bit much.
Thanks for the response though,
Mike
Wasn't "Cat Ballou" the one
March 10, 2009 - 05:03 ET by JerWasn't "Cat Ballou" the one with Jack Pallance and his horse leaning on the wall drunk?
I believe so, but I don't think it was Jack Palance, although it may have been--at this point I'm not completely sure about the full details of either movie. Cat Ballou had a character named Kid Shureen or Kureen or something like that, and I believe Michael Callan was the male lead opposite Jane Fonda. Stubby Kaye and Nat King Cole were the balladeers.
Later today, I'll check the IMDB [Internet Movie Data Base] site and get all this cleared up.
Jer
Jer, it's alright man, I take your word for it.
March 10, 2009 - 05:27 ET by Michael30Jer,
You gotta love the Internet. In the past 24 hours you've argued with people about Limbaugh and all, now you're gonna look up a movie that I'm pretty sure most people never heard of.
I thank you for it, but it really isn't necessary.
Funny though, last time you and I talked, it was about torture and Islamic fundamentalism I think, now we're talking about a Western with Jane Fonda and a drunk horse...
There is just no way that this ends well for us...
Mike
Well you sure put things in perspective, Michael...
March 10, 2009 - 05:47 ET by JerNearly two years at this site, and this is what it comes down to: Jane Fonda and a drunk horse!
I had such grander visions when I first signed up at NewsBusters.
Jer
Best not to think about it Jer...
March 10, 2009 - 06:15 ET by Michael30Jer,
We all of us thought that we would impact life or society at some point or another. As much fun as talking about Jane Fonda and Equestrian Alcoholism invariably is, I know what you mean...
Oh well, if nothing else, it is entertaining to go from a Chris Matthews interview to animals with substance abuse poblems all in the same evening.
At least we didn't start calling eachother names, that's gotta be worth something...
Mike
Michael...It's actually worth a lot.
March 10, 2009 - 06:27 ET by JerIt's actually worth a lot. Just for the sheer pleasure of not having to brace myself and cringe as I'm about to click on a post of yours.
Jer
Never take it personally Jer.
March 10, 2009 - 07:07 ET by Michael30Jer,
You live your life and try and be a good person. It's the best any of us can hope for.
The problem is that sometimes somebody comments on something and people take it the wrong way. Remember, we're not in a bar here, we don't know HOW you are saying it. Besides, very few people on this site have access to the people that are discussed here. So you, as one of our more liberal thinking people, become kind of a target of frustration. Don't think that most people here dislike you personally, it's just that you are the only outlet for that frustration. Heck, here in Detroit I'd love to have a few minutes with our glorious city council... Trust me, it's an embarassment... They actually began singing the other day...
I try to be a decent person to all people that I interact with in life, but I'm pretty sure that I wouldn't have gotten such a warm reception on other sites. So I understand how difficult it can be for you at times.
I know you are joking about the "cringe" thing, but I hope you realize that most people here, even those who attack you from time to time, aren't really angry or attacking you as a person. There may be exceptions, I don't know, I haven't been here that long.
Either way, it was a welcome release to talk with you tonight. I even got to use the word "Equestrian..." Though I'm pretty sure I spelled it wrong.
Mike
Well Mike, I really
March 10, 2009 - 07:50 ET by JerWell Mike, I really appreciate those words. I have interacted with a few others via PM, and have been consistently and genuinely impressed and gratified by their friendliness and support. That has really made my NB experience worthwhile.
I enjoy civil dialogues, good-natured needling, humorous exchanges, but I also know that the quips and tweaking which I engage in are going to touch a nerve with some--particularly if the subject is one--like Rush--where my view is diametrically opposed to that of probably 95% of the other posters. So I understand that I'm going to be jumped on pretty hard in those instances. But, after all, this is a conservative site and it comes with the territory.
You may or may not have noticed, but the one thing that really gets under my skin is being accused of lying. That, more than anything else, can provoke a heated and emotional response from me.
Anyway, I need to learn, even on those occasions, to just roll with the punches. I'll remember your thoughtful and insightful comments to assist me in that effort.
Jer
Lee Marvin
March 10, 2009 - 18:30 ET by doug1950You were close but once again the man with the leaning horse was Lee Marvin. A great actor and a U.S. Marine WWII veteran.
So now
March 10, 2009 - 07:09 ET by RD Kingbend over and grab the ankles is a racist remark and not at all what I thought Rush meant by it.
Then thru some stuttering I heard Frum say uh uh I really dont know what's in his head, speaking of Rush. That nails the problem Matthews and Frum have, not knowing conservative American values such as Rush expounds upon, they have the scrambled lefty whacko makes no sense whatsoever outlook on life.
RD
March 10, 2009 - 09:29 ET by NorthCoasterBingo! There are so many people putting words in Rush's mouth that he didn't verbalize that it is just crazy. The whole situation is caused by the Dems using race baiting and personal attack politics in an attempt to neutralize Rush as an opinion maker. Rush to his credit, has not descended to the same level in return. I've noticed over the last few years as a listener that Rush has been very astute to offer more solutions instead of just throwing stones.
No Idea
March 10, 2009 - 07:57 ET by nadadhimmiThe so called elites in DC, L.A.and NYC have absolutly no idea what's happening in this country. People are fed up with polititians shit and effing lies. We wanted "change" from the typical rape of the working people but instead just got laws codifying that we MUST provide school, hospitals and jobs for ILLEGAL ALIENS before our OWN CHILDREN. After all, Dear Leader isn't even a natural born citizen, so he's at least consistant. Attend Tea Parties in your area, mail tea bags to polititians. Vote out of office ALL INCUMBANTS. It was funny however to see, after Hillaries begging visit to the Chi Coms, that they embarassed her and Obama with the naval attack. In fact, the Dems just got their noses rubbed in some smelly shit right there, ha.
Rush is anything but a racist
March 10, 2009 - 08:32 ET by The Smokin FrogRush is anything but a racist. Clearly these 'haters' don't listen to the show. But it is worse than that. They are of the belief, that if you are not of the opinion that certain groups are helpless and stupid and need the great white liberal hope to rescue them, they will never succeed. Rush and true Conservatives believe these groups have as much brain power as any other group and teach clearly that they want everyone to succeed. Success comes and goes to every race and group. It has nothing to do with that particular race or group.
The fact is, liberals, white and black, are racists.
I don't know if he's a racist or not
March 10, 2009 - 14:02 ET by nwahsHe does retell ethnic jokes timed for laughs and uses raw data to paint ethnic stereotypes. Thats a simple fact. If that makes him a bigot or some profound teacher, I'll let history decide. But it is what it is.
You're irrational if you don't want the new president to succeed - Gingrich
Apparently the author ignores the reality
March 10, 2009 - 09:12 ET by katiejanethat when Frum is attacking a large segment of the GOP, while claiming he is trying to help. If this is Frum’s idea of helping the Republican Party, many will not want to see what his idea is for hurting the GOP, he does it because he wants that segment of the GOP to either STFU or just go away.
No doubt Frum believes that if all those crass, bigoted, uneducated Rush supporters would just fall in line with their "betters" the GOP would be much nicer.
Well one thing is clear
March 10, 2009 - 09:23 ET by general companyCalling yourself a Conservative or Republican, and actually being one are 2 different things
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Frum is not a conservative!
March 10, 2009 - 10:44 ET by CrusaderPatriotThese people who critisize Rush for the "I want him to fail" comment and call him a racist are not conservatives. Do you really think Bo Snerdley (shhhhh! He's black!) would work with Rush for 20 years if he were a racist? Rush isn't racist and he illustrates Democrat racism all the time like with "Barak the Magic Negro". This song was made up of all Democrat words and actions. The gall of "thrill up his leg" Matthews to call himself a journalist is almost too much for me to take! I'm declaring war on these people! We've been silent and nice for too long! Look where it's got us! We've got a marxist "want to be dictator" in the White House. Huge radical liberal majorities in both the House and Senate. Our children are being brainwashed by teachers/professors, the likes of Bill Ayers! We must fight back or within a few years we'll be nothing but a single party marxist dictatorship! Mark my words!
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