MSNBC's Wagner Jumps on School Shooting Tragedy to Bemoan Lack of Action on Gun Control
Sure, there is really "no way, theoretically or otherwise" that yesterday's school shooting in Chardon, Ohio, could have been prevented, self-confessed Second Amendment opponent MSNBC's Alex Wagner noted in a closing commentary on her eponymous program this afternoon. She then immediately delving into a gripe that America's fruited plain is riddled with incredibly lax gun laws thanks to that most evil of evil bogeymen, the "gun lobby" [video follows page break; MP3 audio here]:
In countless schoolrooms across the country, the only protection against gun violence is, in the end, the law. And yet, in the very same states that have seen the country's grisliest gun crimes -- Colorado, Virginia and Ohio -- state legislators have remarkably tried to weaken gun control, making it easier to carry concealed weapons, purchase multiple firearms, or eliminate background checks.
Of course, guns don't kill, people do. But then again, when children are reliant on the state to ensure their safety, those in power must do everything to keep them out of harm's way. Standing up to the vocal, but certainly not all-powerful gun lobby, would be a very good place to start.
Of course, the alleged shooter, 17-year-old T.J. Lane violated numerous existing gun laws in the process of his shooting spree, and Wagner failed to identify a single recent change in Ohio law that made Lane any more likely to have been armed and dangerous yesterday. In the end, it's an armed person, either a police officer or a private individual, who can put an end to a deranged person's shooting spree.
But that, apparently, is of little consequence to the liberal MSNBC anchor. Wagner's objective was to hitch her pro-gun control wagon to a tragedy to slam the NRA specifically and by extension conservatives and gun rights backers generally.
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In the segment that preceded Wagner's closing commentary, the Ivy League-educated Think Progress Center for American Progress alumna conducted a softball interview with Virginia Tech shooting survivor and Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence staffer Colin Goddard.
Following Wagner's interview with Goddard, the rest of the day's panel weighed in, with no member therein voicing any skepticism about the predictable liberal prescription for more gun control.
"Why does nothing ever happen?" groused Wagner.
Salon.com's Steve Kornacki blamed pro-gun rights Rust Belt states which are "critical" in presidential elections. What's more, "Democrats seemed to make a decision as a national party sometime after the Gore campaign in 2000 that to compete in those states" that they "weren't going to pick any major fights with the NRA once they got power," he added.
But if Democrats are afraid of pro-gun voters, doesn't that mean it's not the NRA per se but the voters the NRA represents that hold the real power?
Nation magazine editor and publisher Katrina Vanden Heuvel then chimed in to bemoan a lack of "sane gun policy" in America, swallowing her pride to cite former Vice President Dick Cheney's supposed support of an assault weapons ban or high-capacity magazines as a way to suggest America is moving too far to the right on gun rights.
Former DNC communications chief and MSNBC contributor Karen Finney joined the amen chorus, saying that Democrats need to "step up to the plate" on gun control because "we've been total cowards on this" issue.
"We can be in line with the Second Amendment and protect our children so that when you send your kid to school you're not worried that you're going to get a tweet or a text in the middle of the day saying they're on lockdown," Finney preached. "There's got to be a way!"
"It is amazing how powerful the National Rifle Association is in Washington, D.C." not just with Republicans but "also on moderate-to-conservative Democrats, particularly in the South," Comcast Network Washington bureau chief Robert Traynham observed, echoing Finney's complaint of cowardice:
How hard is it for a moderate Democrat from Arkansas or from Georgia to vote for gun legislation? It's very difficult for that person from a cultural standpoint, and also obviously from a policy standpoint.
So, to answer your question specifically, it's extremely difficult. Republicans and Democrats are cowards on this, it's because they haven't stood up to the National Rifle Association.
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Why is this woman STILL on the air?
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 5:56pm.
Shes apparently sleeping with someone high up! I feel sorry for you, Ken Shepherd-who makes you watch this show? Is this what they punish you with if you cross Brent, I mean "Don" Bozell?
Take them away Obama
Submitted by Maytag on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:00pm.
I think the dems should grow a pair. Run on what they believe, take the guns away, turn them in mr and mrs. america. Lets see 14 to 16 million hunters, 100 million gun owners of 300,000,000 guns.
I believe we would have a total new government. Holder ,oblowme ,wicked witch of the west, chuckie screwmore, etal. lets see howw that works for ya.
Oh ya
Submitted by Maytag on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:05pm.
Middle of hunting season should work well for them
a liberal hunting we will
Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:14pm.
a liberal hunting we will go..hi ho the derrio, a liberal hunting we will go..
count me in..
Is there any evidence that the shooter was illegally sold . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:09pm.
. . . a firearm? Was the weapon registered with state and/or local authorities?
If we don't have this information, then we can't determine whether stricter gun control laws would've made any difference.
well
Submitted by dmacleo on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:31pm.
I guess its good he didn't use 10 gallons of diesel, bag of fertilizer, and a few other household items then.
or a car.
or some chlorine.
or......
my point is more laws would not prevent him from killing.
Gun free zones.
Submitted by David Kramer on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:22pm.
The entire country of Mexico is supposed to be a gun free zone, how is that working out?
Adolph liked gun control.
Stalin liked gun control.
Pol Pot liked gun control.
Chavez likes gun control.
Mexico likes gun control.
Cuba likes gun control.
Democrats like gun control.
North Korea likes gun control.
China likes gun control.
Beginning to see a correlation yet?
David Kramer
Submitted by Herbster on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:18pm.
Excellent post!
Let's not forget that without the Second Amendment there will be no First Amendment.
Obviously, this Wagner creature has a zero understanding of history.
It surely looks like we are living through the 1930's once again with a state run media, etc.
The most frightening words I hear folks utter today are, "It can't happen here." Unfortunately, it has already started.
Today's brownshirts are the union (Occupy) thugs invading state capitols and intimidating people in their homes. We will soon have what I call, "Obama's 100,000."
The mantra of, "The evil rich" has taken hold. "We must legislate that everyone is equal......except of course, for the fact that some are more equal than others."
We live in dangerous times.
This babe
Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:41pm.
is a straight up idiot
Nothing like the death of
Submitted by rbosque on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 6:59pm.
Nothing like the death of kids to bring out the Statism in these media mutants eh? These people won't even let the families grieve before they make their deaths into a political issue.
Unbelievable.
strangle the B#$ch
Submitted by CJohnson on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:10pm.
Oh to be so stupid you believe removing the weapon will remove the compulsion to kill someone. I agree with Mrs Romney; the dangerous stupidity of liberal journalists provokes one's natural urge to remove them from the pool.
Amen...they are setting
Submitted by jkwtrading on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 7:12pm.
Amen...they are setting themselves up like bowling pins to get knocked down.
No Standard of Comparison
Submitted by scottyusmc on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:05pm.
This person bemoans the shooting in Ohio but ignores the slaughter that occurs on a daily basis at the Planned Parenthood office down Useful idiot of the left!!!
Let's compare*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:22pm.
The number of children who die from parental abuse and neglect is about the same as the number of "children" who die by guns. (non accidental)..The number of "children" from age 17 to 20 who die by guns have tripled in the last 10 years.
What we have here is not a problem with gun control, its a problem of "self control". When we have a society conditioned over a period of time that life itself has no value, no boundaries, there will be more deaths.
More young people die from drug abuse, suicide and accidental overdose than children die from violence.
The liberal media do not want to address a decaying society. They would rather, as always, simplify problems with a simple solution. One that involves control over peoples lives rather than teach self control. They would rather control how we live and think rather than study the true causes of societies problems. That would be self destructive since liberalism is the blame for much of our societies descent into chaos.
http://www.tincher.to/deaths.htm
reads like a script
Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:19pm.
problem: psycopath shoots people
solution: deny law abiding citizens their constitutional rights
only makes sense to leftist drones and closet communists.
Should
Submitted by grammajane on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 8:37pm.
airplanes be banned so 3,000 people don't get blown up again? How, in simple words, can this person be so dam dumb. Does she have a clue about people being responsible for their own behavior.The media is pathetic on always trying to blame others when a tragedy happens. It's Bush, it's Republicans, it's the NRA, it's Christains, it's the Tea Party bla bla bla.
Shut up.
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 9:15pm.
Any shooting that happens, the Left is too predictable on their response.
Liberals and Mental Illness, sounds like one in the same huh?
Submitted by Less1leg on Tue, 02/28/2012 - 11:30pm.
I never read or hear about how an individual who commits a massive horrific crime maybe should be isolated into a mental institutution. Progressive liberalism brought about changes in the Mental Health Programs where releasing mentally disturbed people into society would somehow improve the quality of life of these afflicted people.
What have we seen over the decades since closing down those old Victorian Era mental hospitals? We've seen a fella cut off a bus riders head, and eat part of the flesh. We've seen a mentally unstable man shoot a Congress woman in the head, and other people at an event. I could easily go on and on about mentally unstable people wandering the streets in mental LaLa Land. But what's the point? Our liberal society wanted closure on those mental hospitals because a few of them were operated badly with this conditon that every mental hospital was being run by Nurse Cratchet.
Our liberal society doesn't want to institutionalize the mentally unfit. They prefer to medicate them and let them wander our streets in total untreated bliss. At any moment explode into a rage and dillusion only a crazy person can understand.
And a few young teenagers just found out that too in a cafeteria in Ohio. We don't have the guts to set aside our afflicted to protect them from themselves.
Alex Wagner is dumber than Ann Curry.
Submitted by drsamherman on Wed, 02/29/2012 - 12:03am.
Can you guess where Alex Wagner went to college? That's right! She's an Ivy Leaguer, again disproving the notion that Ivy Leaguers are in any way, shape or form more intelligent than those of us who went to public universities.
Congrats on the stupidity Alex. You are a fitting replacement for Keefie...he was also intellectually nonexistent.