MSNBC's Mitchell Takes Victory Lap with Sen. Boxer Over Komen Reversal
News of the Komen Foundation's backpedaling regarding its grants to Planned Parenthood affiliates prompted liberal journalist Andrea Mitchell to do a victory lap on her 1 p.m. Eastern Andrea Mitchell Reports program today.
Mitchell began by noting that under "mounting pressure," Komen founder Nancy Brinker released an apology, an excerpt of which Mitchell read before interviewing pro-choice Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) by telephone about the development. [MP3 audio here; video follows page break]
"In looking at the wording from Komen today, do you think that this is a clear-cut reversal, or is it simply something to get past the immediate controversy," Mitchell inquired.
Boxer replied that it was a "reversal" that made her "very happy" because "women's health triumphed over right-wing politics." The NARAL-endorsed California senator gushed that Mitchell's hostile interview with Komen founder Nancy Brinker "helped bring this [reversal] about" and then laughably pontificated that "health care for our people should never be politicized from any side." Mitchell, of course, failed to point out Boxer's hypocrisy, seeing as she and 25 other liberal U.S. senators fundamentally made the issue a political flashpoint with their letter to Komen yesterday.
"There is almost hand-to-hand combat over the issue of birth control going on," in the U.S. Congress, the hyperbolic pro-choice senator added. "We are in battle here, women's health is under attack."
An objective journalist might object to such overheated rhetoric, but Mitchell failed to call Boxer on it, opting instead to replay a portion of yesterday's interview with Ambassador Nancy Brinker, setting up Boxer to slam Brinker's "trumped-up excuse" for dumping Planned Parenthood as "gobbledygook."
"The fact is... [there was] political pressure" on Komen that was "coming from the far-right wing" that "just don't believe... that women should have reproductive health care," Boxer proclaimed.
Again, Boxer offered no evidence of the "far-right wing" having put political pressure on Komen to ditch Planned Parenthood, nor did Mitchell ask her for evidence. Instead, Mitchell closed the interview by thanking her guest for "everything you've done on this," that is, thanking her for putting pressure on Komen to recant.
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What they call "mounting
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 4:51pm.
What they call "mounting pressure" when practiced by the Left, they call "blackmail" when the Right does it.
I fail to see any evidence of
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:00pm.
I fail to see any evidence of a "victory lap."
We're surprised
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:05pm.
No....really.
Can you provide any?
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:16pm.
Can you provide any?
You win
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:47pm.
They did not physically run around a track with their arms up in celebration. Good for you.
⇒ balboa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:10pm.
Be honest with us. You failed literature because you called Carl Sandburg a liar, right?
"Teacher! Teacher! That's bull$4it! The fog doesn't really come on little cat feet"
Balboa and his stupidity hit
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 9:47pm.
Balboa's stupidity hits Newsbusters once again. This poor chap, he received too many punches to the head.
The guy once again proves that reading and comprehension are far from his forte.
What do you call this?
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:17pm.
"women's health triumphed over right-wing politics." The NARAL-endorsed California senator gushed that Mitchell's hostile interview with Komen founder Nancy Brinker "helped bring this [reversal] about"
I guess you're talking about the fact that they didn't actually high-five each other.
⇒ Susan G Komen loses
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:11pm.
If I want to donate money to advance the slaughter of black babies, I'll join the Democrat party. The method of Democrats controlling the black race in America may have changed since 1965, but only because the latest approach is more effective.
Exactly CA*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:16pm.
How soon would conservatives be called marxists and racists if they supported taxpayer abortions for the poor???
Please.
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:55pm.
Please.
As Gore says with AGW, it is settled.
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 7:32pm.
In this case the statistics and quotes of the founder's objectives match 100%. Unlike AGW lies.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
AbsoLutely preposterous.
Submitted by balboa on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:58pm.
AbsoLutely preposterous.
No it's not balboa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 12:57pm.
Even Charles Darwin, the father of liberal "right to cull based on race" was matter-of-fact about it.
We can give you facts and stats, and all you can offer are exclamations of disbelief?
"Preposterous"? Prove it!
We can show you the liberal line of thinking is blatantly racist and all you can do is holler variations of "poppycock!"
What "facts"?
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 3:00pm.
What "facts"?
bal's reaction ...Exactly like the 50 first dates movie ....
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 3:12pm.
Everyday is new and fresh, liberalism is squeaky clean.... and links are forgotten as soon as you hit the pillow.
You Didn't Build That.
upcountry---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 8:19pm.
bal, like all liberals, is a tabula rasa when it comes to experiencing or admitting to anything that is outside the parameters of liberalism.
MD
⇒ MD
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 8:27pm.
Anymore, bal doesn't even pretend to have a clue, an intelligent input, or scintilla of insight.
He honestly thinks he has perfected the Socratic Dialogue technique with his incessant "I only know that I am an ignoranus"
I've trained people like Bal
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 8:42pm.
Over and over again.
It's like they forgot what they learned the previous day. Sheesh!
⇒ 50 First Dates
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 8:47pm.
Except I think it's only his short term and long term memory that has been affected.
Yeah, Cool---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:07pm.
bal has the in between memory modes locked down tight.
Erm, maybe that's his liberal mind bent that is locked down tight.
MD
Been there, done that, Restless.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:51am.
I'd hate to see the weekend come up, because all of us knew that on Monday, they would have been like clean slates, nothing retained.
Still waiting...
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:58pm.
Still waiting...
⇒ That's OK, bal
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:04pm.
You're very patient, but having brought nothing to the discussion, you really shouldn't expect a snappy comeback every time you beg for one.
Still waiting for what?
Anything that proves the
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:29pm.
Anything that proves the ridiculous statements you made.
⇒ Which was?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:34pm.
Heck! Playing the part of balboa is even simpler than I thought.
Lucky you
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:48pm.
Easiest time you've ever spent at NB.
I AM jealous.
Jealous or
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:04pm.
zealous?
A little of both, Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:36pm.
Jealous of CA at the ease of which he gets to skewer Bal.
Zealous in my denunciation of the family killing, baby slaughtering policies of the left.
That's pretty much what I
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:00pm.
That's pretty much what I thought.
⇒ You thought what?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:10pm.
That your input is so casually mimicked that anybody can do it?
⇒ I'll put it this way, bal
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:19pm.
If I can't draw from you some inkling as to what you do believe rather than all the wonderful things you don't believe, I will continue, along with many others, to see you as nothing more than you have already presented yourself.
I'll tell you something I
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:45pm.
I'll tell you something I believe. I believe this to be one of the most absolutely ridiculous posts ever on this site:
"If I want to donate money to advance the slaughter of black babies, I'll join the Democrat party. The method of Democrats controlling the black race in America may have changed since 1965, but only because the latest approach is more effective."
not really Bal*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:59pm.
When you give that post some thought, consider history, societal changes, it makes the dots connect perfectly.
⇒ You lost him, cajun
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:23am.
You lost him when you suggested he give it some "thought"
Bal is almost incapable of offering evidence.
You'll note
belowabove, he does nothing more than repost my post and add that it's ludicrous, offering nothing to the discussion.⇒ Now I get it, cajun
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:32am.
Maybe what Balboa is trying to say is that even though the result is as I have stated, the liberals had good intentions when they set the wheels in motion.
Liberals are all about defending the results of their meddling with the "good intentions" excuse. They didn't intend to break up marriage as a key factor to rising out of poverty, so it's not their fault because they had "good intentions"
Sweet, how that works.
⇒ How is it ludicrous?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:08am.
Charles Darwin, (Origin of the Species), stated his theory of Natural Selection was toward the preservation of "favoured races", yet liberals demand he be taught to the exclusion of any other thought.
Margaret Sanger's beliefs about undesirables is known.
Ruth Bader Ginsberg's slip of the tongue, " Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of."
50% of all black women's pregnancies end in abortion.
Should I congratulate you on playing ignorant? No! You're fully aware of the aim of liberal thought in this matter,
And on the off-chance you really are as ignorant as you present yourself, you are not so, now.
⇒ Balboa slinks again
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:34am.
It was predictable. As long as I played his game, tossing back to his one-line banter, he felt comfortable.
Stuff facts and statistics in his face, and he runs away like he always does.
He'll be back, pie-faced in his disbelief, with nothing to add but "nonsense".
Wow. That's even dumber than
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 3:35pm.
Wow. That's even dumber than I could've predicted.
Teaching Darwin in schools is your evidence that liberals want to kill more black babies? It's not just, you know, science?
The rest is more of the same: assumptions, assumptions of intent and meaning. 50% of black pregnancies ending in abortion says nothing about anyone's goals to make it that high.
Terrible, and still ridiculous.
That's ridiculous
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 3:39pm.
Preposterous even.
⇒ Catch that Restless?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:11pm.
"50% of black pregnancies ending in abortion says nothing about anyone's goals to make it that high."
Now I'm wondering just how high the Liberal's goals really are.
I'm sure 50% is a little low for Sanger's tastes
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 10:51pm.
But dem libs gotta keep some of them around fer votin' perpusses, dontcha know?
Hell, I think liberals gotta lie about what they are doing, due to fear of what will happen to them if word ever really gets out. It could get real ugly, real fast.
I mean, what would be your reaction to one that was pretending to be your best friend while killing your kids while you weren't looking, and blaming it on the neighbor down the street?
⇒ Even sillier
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:22pm.
Even sillier is that balboa defends Darwinism as science when his book, "Origin of the Species" is dedicated to the preservation of favoured races.
Cool Arrow, But that is just
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 9:57pm.
Cool Arrow,
But that is just it. Individuals like Balboa, he is representative of most Liberals, who are tools, are clueless. I bet you he doesn't even know that radical Darwin wrote other books besides, "The Origin of Species."
It is like the idiots on television, I can't remember who, but they were talking about C.S. Lewis and she was clueless, CLUELESS that C.S. Lewis wrote very deep theological books. The Liberal tool believed he had only written the Narnia series!! I was floored when I saw this "expert" being taken seriously by the likes of Balboa!!
Remember, Balboa is the tool who has spent countless of forums on NB defending at any and all cause idiots like John Steward. This should tell us all we need to know from this individual. Intelligent, thoughtful, curious, studious he is not. However, he does love to be spoon fed what he needs to believe to feel comfortable in his world.
Slinker Balboa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:05pm.
Riddle me this, bal. When VP Joe Biden openly stated Black students are inferior to whites, How can I interpret that statement as anything but racist unless you concede your Liberal Social Engineering has failed?
Why don't you man-up and actually offer something more to a conversation than "that's dumber than dumb"?
"Dumber than dumb" is creating a way of life in which all basic needs are met by the government, thereby building an invisible fence around the poor.
And yes, your Liberal Social Engineering is only more successful, currently, among blacks because you've been at it for 45 years.
⇒ Still waiting balboa
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:19pm.
We both know Joe Biden's statement was not a gaffe, but something he really believes. You need to man-up and defend it.
And exactly how do you know
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:29pm.
And exactly how do you know that? You don't know anything. You assume, twist, and interpret.
⇒ That's all you've got, bal?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:35pm.
You're still brandishing nothing.
I'd wager you are incapable of finding Biden's statement.
Don't help him. He needs to learn this on his own.
Cool Arrow, C'mon, you know
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:09pm.
Cool Arrow,
C'mon, you know better than that. Joe Biden's statement was a gaffe. Now, if Bush, Cheney, Romney, Newt, Santorum, Limbaugh, Ingraham, Hannity, Medved or any other prominent Republican or Conservative would have said about blacks what Biden said, the likes of Balboa, Jer and other Liberals would be screaming at the top of their longs, they would be posting away here on NB how racist we Conservatives are and the proof would be the statement made by the Conservative and/or Republican.
How many posts have we had to endure from Jer with Balboa and the like supporting him of how racist Limbaugh is because of what he said on his radio show. Oh, but you turn it around and show them true racist quotes from Liberals and all they can do is say, "You are taking my Liberal god out of context! how dare you?!" I bit laughable if it wasn't so hypocritical and dangerous what they do. Pit races against each other. Pit genders against each other, pit economic classes against each other.
I do find it amusing that Balboa is crying over his believe that anyone would misrepresent or twist Biden's comments since he finds John Steward, an individual who makes his millions speaking in half-truths about Republicans and Conservatives. John Stewart an indiviudal who makes his millions taking out of context words and sentences spoken by Conservatives and Republicans and individuals like Balboa worship the ground Stewart walks on. But remember, tools like Balboa really believed Colbert and Stewart when they held their all white young and dumb yuppies rally in Washington DC. No doubt Balboa was saying, "Hell yeah, go you all WHITE, young and dumb Liberal yuppies at the rally of Colbert and Stewart! I wish I was there, but I am too busy feeling guilty for all the evil crimes us whites committed have against minorities!"
Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:25pm.
I will gladly contribute a hundred dollars to your favorite Catholic charity for each and every instance you can produce where I have claimed Rush--or any of the other individuals you mention--is a racist or has made a racist statement, if you will donate one dollar to the American Heart Association for each and every time I have condemned Democrats and liberals for race baiting and/or playing the race card. Fair?
Just to be clear, I have said that Rush has made some racially insensitive remarks or references on occasion, and I stand by that. But that is far different from accusing him of racism or being a racist.
Jer
Jer, Jer... Stop playing
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:54pm.
Jer, Jer...
Stop playing Liberal games. You may have never said directly Rush Limbaugh is a racist, but you have made statements like this, "Well, I don't know what Limbaugh had in mind when he used the term uppity, but it is often used as a racial slur". Effectively implying Limbaugh is a racist. I know, I know, you'll deny it 'till your face is blue.
This is one of the Liberals favorite game, infer indirectly that a Conservative is a racist and then say, "Well, quote me, quote me when I have ever said (insert name of conservative individual) is a racist!" LOL
Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:22pm.
I'm not playing games--just giving my opinion. I don't believe Rush is a racist--that blacks or any other race is inherently inferior to another or that they should be treated as unequals. On the other hand, I think he makes comments at times--either unconsciously or without fully considering their implications--which have offensive racial overtones or are associated with historically negative racial stereotyping. It's a matter of tact and discretion, rather than an issue of malevolent intentions.
Jer
Jer, Well since you have
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:30pm.
Jer,
Well since you have stated that you don't believe that Rush Limbaugh is a racist, I have zero reason not to believe you.
However, from what you've stated above, it looks like you have bought into the politically correctness that is destroying America.
I wasn't born here, I didn't grow up with all the guilt that has been pushed on White America. I don't understand it and I don't care to understand it since all I see is a racial fighting and Liberals always accusing Right-wingers, including me a Latino, of being racist.
I have to say, a Liberal American would not survive long in Latin American nations were terms like "negro", "negrita" are used as words of endearment! For example, my father-in-law calls my wife, "mi negrita..." "my little n...g..r girl..."
Political correctness is destroying America.
Liberallies...re political correctness
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 12:30am.
No, I haven't "bought into" political correctness either--at least not completely. Let me explain:
I divide political correctness into two categories. The first characterized by a simple sensitivity to the physiological, sociological, and behavioral differences and predilections inevitably found within an increasingly multi-cultural, ethnically diverse society. It is essentially nothing more than exercising good manners and following the Golden Rule. To the extent the foregoing represents a form of "political correctness", I support it unconditionally.
The second category of political correctness--overweening, overbearing, authoritarian, nitpicking at minutiae, manufactured outrage over perceived slights and trivial indiscretions, an example of which was hauling Trent Lott into the public square to be appropriately humiliated for committing the intolerable sin of saying something nice about an elderly Strom Thurmond on his birthday--is the type of PC run amok that I can't stomach.
Jer
Poor Balboa, Talk to him
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 9:52pm.
Poor Balboa,
Talk to him about Margaret Sanger and how this Liberal along with her radical Liberals were all about eugenics and the extermination of minorities, blacks, hispanics and how Planned Parenthood, founded by Margaret Sanger were inteded to achieve their dream and their heads explode.
Individuals like Balboa know next to nothing. They worship at the altar of John Steward and allow Planned Parenthood to use them as useful tools. If John Steward didn't tell him it was true, he won't believe it.
You thought??
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:32pm.
Who knew?
Sanger's legacy - a few quotes
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:52pm.
This has some good quotes: http://www.blackinformant.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/quotes.pdf
More here: http://www.dianedew.com/sanger.htm
Some from another reference:
1. “Negroes and Southern Europeans are mentally inferior to native born
Americans”
2. “More children from the fit, less from the unfit."
3. “...apply a stern and rigid policy of sterilization and segregation
to that grade of population whose progeny is already tainted, or whose
inheritance is such that objectionable traits may be transmitted to
offspring.”
4. "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be
exterminated."
5. "We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate
the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten that
idea out if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
6. Was the guest speaker at a Ku Klux Klan rally in Silverlake, N. J.
in 1926.
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1: E. Drogin, Margaret Sanger: Father of Modern Society, CUL
Publishers, 1980, Section 1, p. 18-24; http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_lov...
2. Birth Control Review, May 1919 (vol. III, no. 5); p.12. http://www.homekeepers.com/sanger.html
3. A Plan For Peace, The Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 106
http://www.abortionfacts.com/online_books/love_them_both/why_cant_we_lov...
4. http://blackgenocide.org/planned.html
5. Linda Gordon, Woman's Body Woman's Right: Social History of
Birth Control in America (New York, Grossman Publishers, 1976) p.333. http://www.missionariestopreborn.com/ppNegro.htm
6. Emily Taft Douglas, Margaret Sanger; Pioneer of the Future,
Holt, Rinehart & Winston, N.Y., 1970, p. 192. http://www.scholarscorner.com/ethics/Anti-Semitism.html
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Sanger...from her grave she is still killing off black people
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 8:59pm.
Check the picture there out. Sanger would be cheering!
---------article snip------- http://www.theinterim.com/issues/abortion/abortion-as-black-genocide/
The Life Always campaign came in the wake of the release of New York City abortion statistics from 2009, which showed that 59.8 per cent of black pregnancies were aborted, 50 per cent higher than New York City’s overall abortion rate of 41 per cent, which itself is almost two times the national average. According to ThatsAbortion.com, abortion is responsible for 46.7 per cent of African American deaths, 32.5 per cent of Hispanic deaths, and only 11.9 per cent of Caucasian deaths in New York City, if abortion fatalities were counted as a cause of death in official statistics.
The elevated abortion rate of blacks and other minorities is not unique to New York. ThatsAbortion.com points out that “more African American babies have been killed by abortions since 1973 than the total number of African American deaths from AIDS, violent crimes, accidents, cancer and heart disease combined.” The US Center for Disease Control indicates African American babies are three times more likely to be aborted than white babies. Since Roe v. Wade the black population has declined by 25 per cent. The CDC’s 2006 statistics indicate that black people accounted for 36.4 per cent of abortions in US while, under the 2000 census, they were only 12.3 per cent of the population. White women accounted for only 55 per cent of abortions even though they comprise three-quarters of the population.
The imbalance in abortion rates suggests something sinister at work. Rev. Hunter points to Maafa 21, a film showing how abortion of black people is a symptom of the eugenics movement and that “blacks have been targeted for elimination.” This has been the legacy of Planned Parenthood, whose creator, Margaret Sanger, was a notorious eugenicist. “Planned Parenthood has not sued the filmmaker,” said Rev. Hunter, which indicates that “the facts in that documentary stand.”
Sanger proposed the segregation of “morons, misfits, and the maladjusted” and the sterilization of the “genetically inferior races.” In her autobiography, she wrote about “the incessant fertility of (the Chinese) millions spread like a plague” and promoted eugenics and racism in her magazine, The Birth Control Review. According to a 2008 Washington Times editorial, Sanger wrote in 1939 that Planned Parenthood should use black ministers to promote birth control and abortion among the black population: “we should have three or four colored ministers… The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We do not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the one who can straighten out that idea.”
Rev. Hunter points out, “she is dead and from her grave she is still killing off black people.”
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
⇒ Watch out Maximus
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:00pm.
Balboa gonna' come lurking with words like "ridiculous", which pretty much trumps any facts you might have to offer.
I think he's really torn right now between what he's been told and what he now sees.
Reality bites.
Taken out of context, or
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 11:51pm.
Taken out of context, or falsely attributed to Sanger. Depends on the quote.
⇒ Wooo!
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 11:57pm.
We applaud your exhaustive dissertation.
Knocked that one out of the park, you did.
Holds just as much authority
Submitted by balboa on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 12:04am.
Holds just as much authority as anything posted.
⇒ In your world
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 12:14am.
which is obviously all about you.
Quite a few of Sanger's statements were taken out of context,
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 12:28am.
and much of the science of eugenics which seemed rational and benevolent to many of its contemporaneous advocates smacks of sheer barbarism today.
However, stratman posted a link a couple of years ago to a letter or document of Sanger's which contained observations/assertions which are impossible to defend or justify in any context, unless they were unintentional misstatements or a forgery--both highly unlikely explanations. Maybe he can repost the source. It's not in the archives.
Jer
Cool continues to advance the most ludicrous thesis
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:14pm.
to consume NewsBusters bandwidth over the past five years [and that includes birtherism, internment of conservatives in concentration camps, Obama's alleged plot to suspend the Constitution and the elections and declare a dictatorship enforced by his Army of Black Panthers, the Muslim/Terrorist Manchurian candidate and Soros puppet, etc.]:
That the Democratic party is willfully engaged in the calculated, malicious, orchestrated and deliberate liquidation of the potential members of its most reliable electoral constituency. Democratic strategists: "What we really need are less votes." Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
Cool Arrow: Smart guy. Silly idea.
Jer
Jer: Smart Guy.---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:22pm.
Full Disclosure: Silly connection with, and adherence to, leftist Dem thinking and ideology may well obliterate beyond repair or salvage, the first three words of the foregoing subject line.
MD
Thanks for the heads-up, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:44pm.
But the loss of smartness is a risk I am willing to run. As the sage of Indiana, Dan Quayle, once so aptly observed [proving the risk had finally caught up with him]:
"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is." [In remarks to the United Negro College Fund, whose slogan is "a mind is a terrible thing to waste"]
Jer
Fine, Jer. You reconcile the timing
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:38pm.
Seems, (more than seems), to me that the timing of the decline and decimation of the black family fits nicely with democratic policies put forth to "garner a voting bloc".
As bad as that is, the willful ignorance to the consequences of those policies can only mean that the democrats like impoverishing black America as much as they like snuffing them in the womb.
Sad as it is to say, the most dangerous place for a baby today is in a black mother's womb.
Restless...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:02pm.
Please define the (d)emocratic policies put forth to "garner a (presumably black) voting bloc".
Jer
⇒ Follow the money
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:18pm.
Start with LBJ.
More specifically, Jer, google up LBJ & ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:19am.
"niggers".
That racist s.o.b. of a Democrat, who was supposed to be President of all Americans, leader of the Democratic Party by virtue of the office he held, said, and I quote,"I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for two hundred years".
Crude language, yes, and in most respects taboo these days; but your continued defense of all things Democratic does get tiresome.
Or are you going to now argue that LBJ didn't set policy for the Democrats?
MD
Matthew, why don't you google what Nixon said about "Jews"...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:53am.
and he was one of Israel's staunchest supporters.
I think the world of Cool, but what is tiresome is his incessant trashing of Democrats and liberals with outrageous accusations that they deliberately kill blacks to control them and similar slanders. And if I dare to object to it, I get hit with your tiresome falsehoods that I defend all things Democratic. And then when I point out that I have repeatedly condemned Dems and libs for playing the race card, you tell me how tired you are of my mentioning it. So how about giving it a rest.
Jer
Once again the victim, eh, Jer? ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 2:52am.
Nice try, but the subject of Tricky Dick has nothing to do with LBJ setting Democrat policy.
Who, exactly, forces you to sit down at your keyboard and log on to NBs?
Ever occur to you that the " damned if you do, damned if you don't " scenario is nothing more than a reaction to what you, as a self confessed lefty Democrat has to say on these threads?
Unless you can show me where you are being forced to type posts, against your will, how about giving the "poor me" scenario a rest?
MD
Matthew, as holder of the trophy for the all-time NB
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 3:37am.
victimization tantrum post, the best hand you can play in that game is a pair of deuces. And, unlike your logic, they're not wild. So, you can stick around if you wish, but you might have better luck picking up the couple of measly chips you haven't lost yet and heading to another table while you still have your shirt. And by the way, the button down collar and monogrammed pocket have been out of style since the mid-60's.
You're perfectly free to continue the tedious 'you're just a lib defending all things lib' nonsense, and I'll continue to bust you on it.
Jer
For a poster, Jer, who is normally ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:39am.
decipherable, you completely lost me with this last one.
If you are maintaining that I, the conservative on a conservative site, has somehow managed to outdo your drama queen antics by throwing a tantrum that put your perpetual liberal victim status in second place; you are displaying a serious problem in dealing with reality.
Only people I ever get crossways with on these threads - with the exception of you - are trolls.
You, on the other hand, continually dispute with many posters here; most often along conservative vs. liberal lines. Take a survey sometime.
Considering that you are a liberal who posts primarily in defense of liberal attitudes and actions; on a conservative site; your threat to continue to "bust" me for pointing it out sounds silly.
Not only that, your card game analogy sucked.
MD
Yeah, it kinda sucked, Matthew..
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:55pm.
but it wasn't intended as an analogy.
You're still playing a losing hand though with all of that victimization blather.
Jer
So, are you actually denying, Jer, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:09pm.
that as THE lone house lib, you don't continually represent yourself as a victim around here; even though you are not required by law to post on these threads?
You funny guy.
MD
Hell yes I'm denying it...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:40pm.
and I'm getting sick and tired of these constant unjustified attacks against me.
I deserve to be treated with dignity and respect rather than being verbally pummeled day after day.
It's not fair. Either start being nicer to me or I may leave again.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:42pm.
Maybe a troll will show up tonight and you'll get a break. :) Hey guys, check this guy out. He doesn't support one payer Submitted by ndorfman on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:29pm. Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/28/bill-maher-falsely-claims-debt-only-increased-15-trillion-under-obama#comment-1636724#ixzz1lfEo2LVC
What, no smiley faces, Jer? ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/08/2012 - 3:36am.
Are you really getting sick and tired of "constant unjustified attacks" against you?
I may be the only one around here who feels this way, but as far as I'm concerned, anyone who supports Obama now, after seeing three years of his handiwork, has no dignity and deserves no respect.
But for the language restrictions here, I'd tell you what I really think of ol' purple lips.
If the verbal thrashings become painful, don't let those liberal voices in your head force you onto these conservative threads where you receive such dastardly pummelings.
Besides, where else could you go and get your ass kicked by people who actually like you? :o)
MD
Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:01am.
I thought it so obvious I was playing along with the "victimization" thing by posting a blatantly whiny 'poor-me' remark that surely a smiley or kidding emoticon would be unnecessary--and particularly not for you who has been my most consistent accuser of the behavior. Evidently I was wrong, so.....
:-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-)
Jer
I should have caught that, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:09am.
and didn't.
Egg.
On.
Face.
MD
Matthew, thanks for the admission
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 02/09/2012 - 4:39am.
the yolk's on you.
But, you wear it well.
It matches your yellow ascot. :-)
Jer
⇒ The liberal defense
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 10:56am.
If the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wanted to sabotage black academic excellence, he could not find a more effective means to do so than the government school system in most cities. - Walter Williams
Liberals, 45 years of patronizing condescension and copious warnings about those conservative white boogeyman who are going to take away your ______ (fill in the blank) if you don't follow us.
Maybe you liberals do get tired of having the results of your social engineering shoved in your faces, so what? You know of a certainty your theory of "Comfortable Poverty" is the largest contributor to the increase of dependency across all racial groups, but you also know your conditioning of Black Americans has been far more focused and longstanding.
But you liberals, after all the failed policy, won't even acknowledge that maybe mistakes were made.
It is for this reason we can only assume your actions, your condescending benevolence, was a means to exactly the end you intended and achieved.
I honestly don't see how the outcome could have been better for Plantation Liberals.
Tired of hearing about it? So what? Your only defense at this point is to ridiculously claim the plight of the Black family would be so much worse if you had not intervened in their lives, customs, and morals.
Go ahead! Say it!
Never heard of FDR?
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:19pm.
Entitlement programs that encourage the removal of fathers from the home, (chicks get more money if the father is not there). That pretty much encompasses the whole of the democratic solution to poverty. Have you not noticed the lack of black fathers in the home? The number of black babies born out of wedlock? The proliferation of abortion mills in black neighborhoods?
Quit being dense. I'm not going to rattle off every entitlement program the dems have come up with. You know what welfare, WIC, food stamps...etc have done to blacks in this country.
⇒ Better yet
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:08pm.
Maybe that Democrat who killed Dr. King opened the door for guilt-hucksters like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
Pushing Dr. Ralph Abernathy out of the way after Dr. King's death was easy.
Don't worry, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:25pm.
Most of the guys I knew who piled into cars to head for Memphis to kick some "coon" ass after MLK was murdered are now good loyal Republicans.
Jer
⇒ Sorry that happened
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:30pm.
But it didn't really happen, did it? I was in Catholic school at the time. We didn't believe as you and your friends did.
I don't know what you believed, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:36pm.
and you sure as hell don't know what I believed. But here's a clue: It wasn't what the guys heading for Memphis believed.
Jer
⇒ That's OK, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:43pm.
I didn't know any guys who piled into a car and even went so far as across town to kick (what you said).
Only fights I ever saw were over a girl, or between Hippies and Kickers (cowboys).
⇒ Furthermore
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:50pm.
Somewhere around 1962, my daddy brought home an album by Justin Wilson, "I Ga Run Tee". That's where I first heard the term "coon ass", but it was many years later that I heard the term "coon' as a reference to blacks.
Hey cool*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:10am.
You are correct. That term was used for many generations meant to identify cajuns. It was not a compliment. Cajuns call each other that in the family circle but it is no longer pc even among cajuns. We now have a plethora of terms used to describe cajuns. Let's see.... ignorant gun clinging bible thumping southern red neck racists. Such progress we are making thanks to those educated tolerant liberals.
cajun...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:14am.
Where I lived it wasn't the liberals who referred to MLK as Martin Luther Coon.
Jer
They were
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:19am.
abortion loving democrats though, maybe?
They just found a different route to their objective.
⇒ But I've got to know, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:27am.
Did most of the guys you knew REALLY pile into a car to go beat up black people?
If that's true, CA, it doesn't say much for his circle
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:01am.
of friends, does it?
And, from what I saw on the news back then, and heard from the mouths of Faubus, Wallace, Connor and the rest, they sure as hell weren't conservative Republicans.
Pay attention, UpNorth...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:36am.
I didn't say they were my circle of friends. At that time, they may very well have still been conservative Democrats, but they, like many in the south, were gradually abandoning the Democratic party--believing it to be more and more dominated by the northern liberals--and switching their allegiance to the Republican party with maybe a stopover in Wallace's populist camp along the way.
This wasn't an overnight phenomenon, nor was race the sole factor. The breakup of the solid Democratic south and the emerging power of the GOP was erratic, evolutionary, and the product of a variety of reasons, only one of which involved racial policies and attitudes. And I'm sure that there were Democratic segregationists in the south then who are still Democrats today.
Jer
When you referenced them, Jer, I guess
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:53pm.
I got the idea that you hung out with them. After all, knowing what they said, where they said they were going, and what they were going to do when they got where they were going, would indicate more than just a passing acquaintance, at least in the circles I ran in.
So, even though the reason that southern democrats left the democrat party was race, it wasn't only race, they were many factors. Except when you point out that southern democrats left the democrat party because they were racist, and they knew they'd be welcome in the Republican party?
UpNorth, Jer's Special story of Democrat Exodus of the KKK'ers
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 4:14pm.
Wouldn't be complete without the wonderings into the land of the Dixiecrat.
And yes that car story.....when drinking N driving was not the crime it is today.
You Didn't Build That.
ucw...what are you babbling about?
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 9:51pm.
If you have a legitimate point to make, make it.
Jer
Right Jer, Republican car stories and links to Dixiecrats...
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:44pm.
Keep pushin the KKK free DEMOCRAT, dream. Keep the flame going, just one more post Jer and maybe you will arrive in the promise land.
You Didn't Build That.
ucw...Here is the platform of the American Knights
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 5:15pm.
of the Ku Klux Klan circa 1999. Please read and specify which items you believe also represent the views of the modern Democratic party:
Thanks.
TRADITIONAL VALUES: The liberal government and its media encourage our young children to behave like primitive savages. Homosexuality, bisexuality, transsexuals, sado-masochism, and every other type of vile perversion is applauded by the scum that control our country. The American Knights demand a return to sanity. We call for a restoration of Christian values to all walks of life.
• CRIME: America is the most violent nation on the face of the earth. Major cities like New York, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta and Philadelphia have been all but over run by hordes of savage criminals. The liberal government papers these subhuman and attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens. The American Knights demand that our cities be liberated from these barbarians. We shall remove the killers and rapists from our streets and execute those that deserve it.
• ABORTION: Thousands of innocent children are slaughtered each day at Baby killing centers all over the country. The government has made abortion a convenient form of birth control. The American Knights will outlaw this barbaric, satanic practice and punish the sadistic doctors who are guilty of these crimes against humanity.
• GUN CONTROL: The so-called gun control bills enacted by the government are nothing but anti-self defense laws designed to disarm law abiding White citizens. The Klan will completely restore the right of all law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms.
• THE MEDIA: All three of our television networks are controlled by jews. Most of our daily newspapers, magazines and book publishing companies are owned by jew tycoons. The Klan will smash this jewish monopoly of our mass media. We will restore the right of free speech and open debate of political issues.
• EDUCATION: America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by deprived liberals, communist and jews in our public. WHITE teachers and students are raped and robbed by niggers and other savages on a daily basis. The Klan will remove the criminals from the classrooms and put them behind bars where they belong. Forced bussing will be outlawed. Prayer will be returned to our schools. All teachers who continue to promote anti-American doctrine will be removed and replaced by decent American patriots.
• HOMOSEXUALITY: The Klan will take away all the special rights and privileges granted to homosexuals by the liberal dictatorship over the last few years. Homosexuals will no longer be permitted to adopt children or “marry” each other. Gay bars, gay nightclubs, and gay bathhouses will be shut down.
• IMMIGRATION: Millions of Third World bandits enter our country illegally every year. The Republicans and Democrats do nothing to halt this massive invasion. America is being transformed into a new Mexico. The American Knights call for an end to this madness. We shall halt all immigration from non-White nations and use the U.S. Army to restore integrity to our borders.
• THE NEGRO PROBLEM: The Klan is strongly opposed to the insane policies that discriminate against White people in favor of unqualified and lazy niggers. We shall abolish affirmative action and minority quota systems. All unqualified blacks will be removed from positions of power and influence in our government. The Klan will launch a massive campaign to liberate our cities from the black gangs that presently terrorize them.
• THE ECONOMY: Jewish bankers and shylocks control the American economy with an iron hand. The American Knights will remove these users from power and restore a Constitutional money system. Taxes will be lowered, the corrupt Federal system will be smashed, and the foreign buying up of our nation will be halted. The Klan will place trained economist in charge of our economy and punish the jew tycoons who have brought America to the brink of financial disaster.
• FOREIGN POLICY: The Klan favors a strong foreign policy that closely guards American interests around the world. The Klan will encourage all other White nations to throw off the yoke of zionist/liberal occupation. All aid to worthless third World nations like Israel will be cut off. The foreign policy of the Klan led United States will be: AMERICA FIRST, LAST AND ALWAYS!
Jer
Is that off your very own blog
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 6:16pm.
Or did you swipe it from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
No links to car loads of republican piling into cars.
More folks belonged to this cult than the linkless one you mentioned.
More shinny objects of sidetracking.
You Didn't Build That.
Typical ucw dodgiing and deflecting...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 7:02pm.
How about making at least a stab at complying with my previous request? Then sharpen your comprehension skills and point out where I claimed Republicans had piled into cars and headed for Memphis after King's assassination. It would be helpful if you would carefully read comments instead of just glancing at them and posting your delusions and distortions.
Jer
By the way, why don't you link some of your personal observations and experiences from previous decades which were not published or made part of a public record.
U didn't state what they were, now they are "loyal Republicans"
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 7:30pm.
Most of the guys I knew who piled into cars to head for Memphis to kick some "coon" ass after MLK was murdered are now good loyal Republicans.
MLK was a Republican.
I'm still waiting for you to round up more obamanazi photos on that other thread you ditched. Ones that are not created by democrats/lifties/libs...tick tock...
You Didn't Build That.
You can google them yourself, ucw...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 8:16pm.
I said they weren't compiled in a single handy montage like yours of Bush.
Now answer my question please...tick tock, tick tock...
Jer
⇒ Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 7:47pm.
You could have gone several more years without posting what Democrats say behind closed doors.
I believe in the right to bear arms.
Most of the rest of that stuff I've heard from Democrats like Jeremiah Wright (them Jews won't let me get close to Obama)
Let me see if I understand what you're saying, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 8:52pm.
According to you, behind closed doors, LIBERAL DEMOCRATS rail against the "liberal government and its media" which are perverting traditional values; condemn the "liberal government...attempts to disarm law-abiding citizens"; decry the "government's making abortion a convenient method of birth control", claim "America's public schools, colleges and universities have been turned into political indoctrination centers run by liberals...and have taken prayer out of school "; condemn the "liberal dictatorship...granting special privileges to homosexuals"; call for an end to the massive "immigration from non-white countries"; demand an end "affirmative action"...
These are the statements you insist liberal Democrats are making behind closed doors???!!! Do you think anyone at this website believes you?
You could have gone the rest of your life without posting something so incredibly absurd.
Jer
⇒ Y'all are sure clever, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 9:00pm.
Years ago Democrats were railing against all this, Now you're admitting to all these things as proof you're different from the Klan?
Brilliant!
Cool, you're not even making sense...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:46pm.
You know very well I've often acknowledged the regrettably racist and segregationist attitudes and Klan affiliations of a significant [mostly southern] faction of the Democratic party. That segment however largely disintegrated over the last half of the 20th century. Overall, it's a complicated history, but that fact is simple and irrefutable.
Jer
⇒ Of course you're right, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 11:15pm.
I don't really believe Liberals hold those views any more than you think conservatives do. I do, however, believe Liberals meddled in the lives of African Americans for the last 45 years and are in large part to blame for the breakup of their family structure.
I further believe the same "poor victim think" is now permeating most racial groups to the end that it buys more votes. The only reason it is currently so pronounced among African Americans is that the Liberal focus has been so heavily upon them longer than anyone else.
Like you, I condemn the Klan. And like you, I condemn the theft of gumption regardless of race.
source
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 5:20pm.
for preceding post:
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/343.html
Jer
"The credibility of the story
Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 7:41pm.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
You Didn't Build That.
You are more than welcome, ucw...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 9:00pm.
to provide what you believe to be a more credible KKK source.
Jer
I know you love the anecdotal evidence
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:18am.
But seeing as it can neither be proved or disproved, can you at long last show any evidence that all those racist democrats switched to the party that opposed slavery and voted for civil and voting rights. You've yet to do so.
RESTLESS...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:58am.
Here's a book excerpted which examines the rise of the Republican party in the South. The racial factor is summarized on pp. 146-147.
Jer
Big deal Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 1:02pm.
I've shown you countless links that prove otherwise. I've shown you the voting history of the South, which show it was moving "red" well before the CRA and VRA. I've shown you voting records that prove the South's turn republican was due to "outliers" such as Texas, and that the "old South" tended to remain "blue".
You're gonna show me one book, hell, a couple of pages from said book, and that is going to change the facts??? I don't think so.
Racism is a province of the left. You can scream bloody murder, but that ain't changing.
Not to mention, I could always make the argument that any dems switching to the republican party did so out of disgust with the racist policies of the left.
You're gonna have to go some to convince anyone with a brain that a bunch of racist democrats found a home in the party constructed to overthrow slavery and that voted in favor of civil rights every damn time.
Countless links, RESTLESS?
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 11:44pm.
I recall a couple which could be reasonably described as serious scholarly presentations, and even those evidenced motivational bias. But they were nevertheless sufficient in your mind to launch your ongoing victory dance with which I have been hesitant to interfere because it seemed to thrill you so.
As you can see, the source I cited as well as my accompanying comments presented a nuanced view. The author may be biased. I have no idea whether he is or not, but I suspect there is a great deal of predisposition which infects all facets of this inherently and inevitably provocative and contentious issue. In any event, I can assure you every source you put forward can be matched by countervailing authority of equal merit.
Jer
Your "source" has a flawed premise
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:35am.
That being that racist democrats would be comfortable in a republican party that opposed slavery and supported civil rights.
As Bal might say, that is ridiculous.
And your premise is just plain flawed...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:49pm.
White racists would clearly be uncomfortable in the modern Democratic party, one in which minorities are disproportionaely represented, and with which African-Americans in particular have overwhelmingly aligned themselves.
The last time I checked out a couple of the prominent Klan websites and reviewed their platforms and statements of principles, virtually none were consistent with the precepts which the Democratic party has embraced over the past half century. The days when the Democrats were the party of choice for white Southern racists and segregationists are long gone. I'm not saying they flocked en masse and overnight to the GOP or that the Democratic party is currently completely free of racists. The questions arre complex and involve crossover issues, a variety of motivating factors, political, enconomic and social interests, and the answers can't be stuffed into a neat little box.
But to continue throwing Bull Connor and Lester Maddox and George Wallace and Ross Barnett and Orville Faubus and other political fossils of a bygone era into the face of contemporary Democrats has lost its relevance, its impact, and its sting.
Jer
Thought we were talking about the 50's and 60's
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 9:14am.
When blacks were part of the GOP. You really think O'connor, wallace, byrd, et al were comfortable in the GOP?
Oh, that's right, they died democrats. Guess they weren't.
Jer, I just have a question
Submitted by Liberallies on Tue, 02/07/2012 - 4:05pm.
Jer,
I just have a question for you, who did the Nazi Party aling with, The Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street? Who have they marched side by side with? Who have they protested with?
Oh...OH.....you guessed it, Occupy Wall Street!
Obama, Pelosi, Reid and countless of prominent Left wing politicians and pundits have come out in support of OWS! and NONE have denounced the Nazi Party's involvement in OWS!
Why would the Nazi Party, a bunch of racist wackos, feel more comfortable with a Left wing movement than a Right wing movement? Hmmmm.....
"In any event, I can assure you every source ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:23pm.
you put forward can be matched by countervailing authority of equal merit."
Which means, then, that all arguments, debates, or disputes must end in a draw.
Kinda shoots holes in one's use of snark, or any other method of put down, when alluding to another's lack of use of links and sources, don't it, there, Jer?
Too funny, you are.
MD
Not as it relates to you, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:56pm.
whose affinity for sourcing is virtually the same as is Superman's for Kryptonite. [Not that you're not a really super guy and all of that.]
Jer
And what, exactly, Jer, does your little bon mot ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 7:28pm.
have to do with squawking about links and sources ad nauseam, and then breaking an egg over your own head by stating in essence that any verified source can be rightfully canceled out by another verified source containing diametrically opposed info?
MD
Jer, I will answer your,
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 10:28pm.
Jer,
I will answer your, "Please define the (d)emocratic policies put forth to "garner a (presumabley black) voting bloc".
How about the giving of welfare so easily that black women will refuse to marry the father of their chidlren so they can receive even more welfare. I have worked with inner city families, mostly hispanic and blacks, in Chicago. They have zero problem admitting to the FACT that they do not marry the daddy of their baby because marrying the dad would make their welfare checks, the food stamps and all of the other government funded aids to go down!! and they be darn if they have to work for a living!
This is the REALITY that Liberals like you deny. I have seen it and have had to worked with individuals, mostly blacks and hispanics, who will admit that they don't need to work because government will take care of them. Liberal policies are turning off ambition in this nation. Why work hard, why earn money to live on if government will give you everything? come and live in the inner cities of Chicago where more people over the summers die than soldiers died in Iraq during the same summers!
The destruction of the black family lays at the feet of Liberal policies. Oh and don't worry, I know this is also happening with whites. This is no longer a minority only problem. Liberal policies destroy ambition since Liberals NEVER take into account human nature!
I will give you a personal experience which just happened to me. I just received a pretty nice raise from my job thanks to my hard workd, great yearly review, etc, etc....and guess what. My gross income is more, but since I moved up from tax bracket, my take home pay is a few dollars less!!!! Thus, I ask you Jer, why work hard if I earn more income, the more I will be taxed! Again, another Liberal policy!
But heck, keep on denying real world experince and talk about college theories and other silly stuff.
I have always said it, Liberals do not live in the real world.
⇒ Thanks, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 9:44pm.
I said he was a Keynesian, not a Kenyan. RIF
Internment of Conservatives? I said that?
Suspend the Constitution? Wasn't suspending Habeas Corpus a bipartisan effort?
Black Panthers? Did I say Barack Obama directed them to intimidate white voters?
Muslim? Obama said it, not me.
Nazi collaborating George Soros puppet? Don't know if I said it, but I don't disbelieve it.
But what is telling about your post is a smug admission of control over one racial demographic. That you liberals continue to cull their numbers with nonsense about their less-evolved ability to control their own copulative urges is an indictment on your own beliefs, not mine.
You really believe it's conservatives who build cathedrals to black slaughter so closely to concentrations of black people? That's not my conscience talking, it's yours.
Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:26pm.
"I said he was a Keynesian, not a Kenyan. RIF Internment of Conservatives? I said that? Suspend the Constitution? Wasn't suspending Habeas Corpus a bipartisan effort? Black Panthers? Did I say Barack Obama directed them to intimidate white voters? Muslim? Obama said it, not me. Nazi collaborating George Soros puppet? Don't know if I said it, but I don't disbelieve it"
Please review my post. I attributed none of the above to you.
"Smug admission of control"? That's a curious twisting of what was a straightforward statement of fact concerning the voting patterns of African-Americans over the past several decades into a crude and careless fallacy.
Cool, how about you speaking for your conscience, and I'll speak for mine. In this era--in fact for many years now--the issue is and has been one of information, education and access for those in the poorer communities, which are disproportionately inhabited by blacks. At one time it was the well-to-do who could afford air fare to fly to a facility in a distant state where abortion was legal. The poor availed themselves of the services of back-alley butchers and coat hangers.
Jer
⇒ I don't know, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:40pm.
Maybe it was your opening statement, "Cool continues to advance the most ludicrous thesis"
Or maybe it was your closing statement, "Cool Arrow: Smart guy. Silly idea."
Maybe I just imagined those two clues as I plunged headlong into rebuttal. But I don't think so.
No, Cool...you IMAGINED I had also identified you as the
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:48pm.
source for those other bandwidth-consuming subjects I listed. I did not.
Jer
⇒ OK, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:04pm.
Here, I thought you were accusing me of being a birther.
Sorry for not catching your most effective device.
Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:44pm.
At one time it was the well-to-do who could afford air fare to fly to a facility in a distant state where abortion was legal. The poor availed themselves of the services of back-alley butchers and coat hangers.
Funny how preaching abstinence and the sanctity of marriage never crosses a liberal's mind.
And is that really the crux of your opposition to state's rights? That the rich can travel?
Hell, teach the rich to close their legs too.
Funny, RESTLESS...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 10:57pm.
how I have preached abstinence, adoption, and marriage, but you ignore it or erase it from your memory bank because it interferes with your preconceived caricature and generalization narrative of the liberal mindset.
Jer
What's funny Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:00pm.
Is how you take a generalization and make it specifically about you.
What's even funnier RESTLESS...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:14pm.
is that you would post a specific quote of mine, suggest that it represents libthink, and expect me to believe your comment has nothing to do with me. I can't speak for all libs as you attempted to do while including me in your general criticism. But I hope you don't mind my speaking for myself.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:26pm.
My SECOND sentence was specific to you. You didn't address that one.
Focus.
RESTLESS...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:32pm.
That tends to make your first sentence superfluous.
As far as your second sentence, my answer is "no" in general, but regarding this specific issue it is one of the factors to be considered.
Jer
I'm hard to get
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 12:23am.
And my English teachers loved my off the wall progressions.
Well, maybe not so much. The perils of being right, (correct), so frequently.
It may have been out of order, but that makes none the less true.
They are going to wish they
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:09pm.
They are going to wish they never reversed it. I bet a lot of the people that sent in donations are wanting them pback today.
Stop payment on the check or call your credit card issuer.
Submitted by drsamherman on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:48pm.
Stopping a donation is quite easy. By credit or debit card, it's a phone call to the bank and they must stop it if a complaint is issued. Same for stopping payment on a check. There's a fee involved.
I urge eveyone to call their credit card co and cancel!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 7:37pm.
Most people give by credit card... please call right away to cancel. PAY for the stop check! They made their bed as they say. Studies show increased risk of breast cancer in those who have had abortions. And then they give money to PP. Also 100% risk of death for the babies who were alive and healthy, but will never be born now. Goes so well with their message. What logic they have. And PP does not do mammograms, refers them to someone who does. Why not pay those people instead!
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Huzzah! Mitchell gets her Katie Award
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:14pm.
What a hero!
LOL, good one!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 7:38pm.
I DO NOT miss Katie! Gag! Andrea; double yak! The bias is beyond thick! Alternate ideas will never be presented fairly by them. It goes against their "journalistic" beliefs... lol.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
Does it really count
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:16pm.
as "lowering the rate" of breast cancer among women, by killing them before birth?
Another good one Phil!
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 7:39pm.
And quite factual. SAD! Judgement for such a crime would be appropriate. Not with this crowd!
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
"Victory lap?"
Submitted by KyWriter on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:53pm.
Good analogy, considering Andrea's physical appearance, although I didn't know there was a competition for broken-down nags.
Another Leftist Media hack near self-immolation
Submitted by ChrisNH on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:40pm.
Look at that 'victory-lap' photo of Andrea. There's no happiness on her face. Indeed, Leftist Media Hacks like Andrea will look back on the Obama regime as their worst four years ever. Why? Because they shoveled Obama at us; his failings and ineptness turned into THEIR failings and ineptness. The anger and rage coming from all Leftist Media Hacks is testimony to this fact. Also, because they've lost control of the narrative. Their little Sunday Morning TV shows are waning in popularity, devolving into nothing but Leftists backslapping other Leftists.
They should rename their foundation to...
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:47pm.
Joseph R. Mengele for the kill.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Pink
Submitted by ammo john on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:46pm.
So, where can I buy my pink Komen ribbon with the hanger on it? Their new slogan should be 'Save the Tits, Not the Tots'.
I wonder how many people are now wishing they didn't pay the extra $$ to have a Komen pink license plate?
I was thinking about
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:07pm.
that pink ribbon this evening. Someone should make one that is strangling a baby in the eye of the ribbon. Gruesome, yes. But nothing compared to the dumpsters of PP.
The real loser
Submitted by Fredy on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:53pm.
Komen is the long term loser in all of this. Many who were donating to their cause will now be forced to balance cancer research with abortion.
Look for different cancer researchers to grow as a result of this news.
More ugly, obnoxious behavior from "journalists"
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 5:58pm.
It was sick enough that the Komen Foundation, whose official color should be yellow (for cowardice) rather than pink, surrendered meekly to the demands of the make believe media and loony-left Democratic politicians. But to have the MBM gloating over it makes it even worse...
Boxer can kiss my....
Submitted by Mark81150 on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:11pm.
My mother died from breast cancer, and I used to give to Komen when I could, never again, never..
and that witch..
"that "just don't believe... that women should have reproductive health care," Boxer proclaimed"
can sit there and bald faced lie, and her minions will believe it like the liberal idiots they are... I will never give to any group affiliated with planned genocide, no matter how much they lie about us. That CNN alowed this harpy witch queen to get away with slandering millions of Americans, because they don't believe her jackbooted thugs have the right to force Americans to violate their faith... but never let the truth get in the way of a great propaganda lie huh Senator?
I totally detest that liberal piece of trash.. why she can get re-elected is a testement to how vile and insane liberals are.
Yet more irony
Submitted by sergeant stogie on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:11pm.
The progs are so against bullying, yet they are the masters of the tactic. I would call it blackmail, but they would just yell that I was a racist.
I don't
Submitted by bobsmom on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 6:49pm.
even have an intelligent remark today, this just makes me physically ill. I truly hope everyone that made a donation to Komen goes after it, it and gets it back. I am so disgusted I don't know where to turn.
I suppose all those pro
Submitted by Kenny Bunkport on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 8:28pm.
I suppose all those pro Planned Parenthood protestors will step up and replace the donations that Komen won't be receiving now that the money funneling is out of the bag.
Joining the list
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 8:57pm.
of former supporters of the Komen foundation.
Sickening
Submitted by kilrod on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 9:44pm.
I am sickened and disgusted, but i should'nt be surprised; The unborn have been throwed under the bus, at the skip of a heartbeat, for 39yrs, resulting in the death of 50,000,000(that's fifty million) unborn babies. Why should anyone expect some big wealthy powerfull organization or individual to make a stand now. sssst.....
kilrod "the Birther"
If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,??
Dumb question: What exactly is the rationale for diverting...
Submitted by krendler on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:02pm.
...funds - donated to Komen *specifically* for breast cancer research, treatment, and prevention - to Planned Parenthood, of all things (or *any* organization that isn't 100% focused on breast cancer research, treatment, and prevention)?
A liberal would tell you.....
Submitted by Herbster on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 10:27pm.
It's all about "Women's health." 50,000,000 is a small price to pay for "The right to choose." Besides, (And most importantly) the unborn don't vote!
I am a conservative with 77 years on this planet. I have yot to meet a woman who goes to planned parenthood for a mammogram, or any other TRUE health issue.
Did Komen scam us? Do they donate to entities doing REAL research in the field of cancer? If you want to help in the cancer field, donate to Roswell Park (Cancer) Hospital in Buffalo. They work wonders there......quietly.
come on
Submitted by grammajane on Fri, 02/03/2012 - 11:48pm.
mitchell. It's the middle of winter and you are still going sleeveless? We all know you are trying to look like Mochele but, you are at least 30 years older and need a sweater or blazer on your tv appearences. You and Boxer enjoy running laps for women killing babies, no one else gives a rip what you do or say.
Did anyone ever doubt...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 12:45am.
...that "Unplanned Parenthood - Scheduled Abortion" would win this one?
Result of brouhaha
Submitted by kiwikit on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 7:41am.
More conservative women, who up to now contributed to all these Pink Ribbon requests, will step on the sidelines. I did that starting a few years ago when I first learned of their contributions to the Baby Killing Mill called Planned Parenthood, but most women to whom I mentioned it, knew nothing about their actually supporting PP when they gave to SK. Millions more have found out about it now and I hope such affect their gifts. Solution is to find a local group supporting cancer research, verify that they don't give money to the phony PP which does nothing but abortions, and if such is the case, contribute to them. Bottom line result here is fewer contriubution to SK from pro-life women, I hope.
Thinking the same thing, same experience.
Submitted by MaximusBraveheart on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 2:00pm.
Most people had no idea the connection prior. Now they do! Will have to hurt donations IMO.
-- Maximusbraveheart -- Is TRUTH knowable? Moral Relativism is the abandonment of Truth. Truth is knowable. Truth conforms to Reality. Reality is observable by evidence & witness in this day & from history. Relativism is Sesame Street play land.
dead babies
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 1:16pm.
Ever wonder why lib women and their "male" consorts love abortion so much?
⇒ Not really
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 1:22pm.
Seems they have some sense as to the worth of their seed.
ChickaBOOMer| MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell: Ratings Abortion
Submitted by StewartIII on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 3:04pm.
MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell: Ratings Abortion
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2012/02/msnbcs-andrea-mitchell-ratings-...
⇒ Stewart
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/04/2012 - 11:30pm.
I thought that link was to a procedure Andrea Mitchell had done on set, like Katie Couric's colonoscopy.
⇒ Moved
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 02/05/2012 - 3:57pm.
Moved
Bullying Susan G. Komen
Submitted by berlet98 on Mon, 02/06/2012 - 4:53pm.
Bullying Susan G. Komen
The huge flap over the Susan G. Komen for the Cure foundation’s decision to cease funding Planned Parenthood of America, PPOA, and then to rescind that recission is nothing more than a tempest in the abortion teapot. It’s also an excellent example of the power of bullying.
Susan G. Komen for the Cure is as dedicated to curing breast cancer as Planned Parenthood is dedicated to killing the pre-born. However, when the foundation pulled its funding of PPOA last week, it was a wake-up call, if one were needed, that libs are far more concerned for preserving abortion rights than they are with preserving the lives of women.
Under a torrent of incensed bullying attacks, the foundation quickly seemed to reverse its decision though not before libs launched a withering onslaught of abuse of Komen.
The bullying died down following the apparent reversal, which is ironic since the foundation simply decided to adhere to its previous commitment to pay PPOA over half a million dollars but would provide no additional funding because, despite its advertising, the nation’s most profitable and prolific abortionists doesn’t give a damn about breast cancer.
Komen caved to the bullying tactics then made it clear it won’t support organizations not engaged in breast cancer research or treatment or if they are proven guilty of criminal activities.
As background, Susan Komen died at age 36 in 1980, a victim of the plague of breast cancer after her sister Nancy Goodman Brinker swore to her that she would do all she could to eradicate that scourge. . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=12591.)