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By Ken Shepherd | December 05, 2011 | 12:51

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It's possible I missed something in history class, but I'm pretty sure Davy Crockett never urinated in public as a sign of protest.

I say this because the Washington Post's Pamela Constable and Fredrick Kunkle today compared the Occupy D.C. movement to the Texan freedom fighters at the Alamo in today's 25-paragraph front-page story (emphases mine):

The Occupy D.C. campaign, largely peaceful since its launch two months ago, turned confrontational Sunday when police detained 31 protesters during a tense day-long standoff in McPherson Square. It was the first case of mass arrests at the group’s base camp in Washington, and the clash resembled those between police and Occupy protesters in other cities across the country.

The day began with a seemingly minor dispute over a 15-foot-tall wood shelter that protesters put up Saturday night in the park’s grassy southwest corner. But it soon escalated into a noisy downtown disruption — and a psychological turning point in the protests — after a group of demonstrators defied repeated orders by the U.S. Park Police to dismantle and abandon the half-built shed.

During the day, officers arrested 15 demonstrators and charged them with crossing a police line, Park Police spokesman Sgt. David Schlosser said. Shortly after nightfall, police moved in and detained the protesters who had remained inside the open shed all day, and 16 people were charged with disobeying a lawful police order. One of them also was charged with resisting arrest, indecent exposure and urinating in public.

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Police officials — who have allowed the tent city to remain in a public park — insisted that the building was illegal because it appeared to be a permanent structure and the group had not obtained a permit for it. Whatever the original purpose of the building, it quickly became a lightning rod.

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Although the shelter was constructed under cover of night and created a mood of Alamo-like defiance, Occupy demonstrators said it was not planned to provoke authorities. But the structure created a flash point nonetheless.

Besides a dopey historical analogy, you'll notice that Constable and Kunkle did their level best to treat the Occupiers with kid gloves, starting with the initial reference to the "largely peaceful" nature of the squatters' camp to neutral language that describes conflict as just sort of happening, rather than blaming protesters for being uncooperative and resistant to police enforcing the law.

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If the occupiers are being compared. . .

Submitted by rickbren on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 12:58pm.

. . . the patriots at the Alamo, let's see if we can have them meet their demise in the same way. . .

Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment.
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have them meet their demise in the same way...

Submitted by vrwc13 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:30pm.

...they aren't that commited or brave.

Alamo - they fought and died for freedom

OWS - they whined for entitlements and free tuition

v

The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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Occupy DC & the Alamo - sorta the same

Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:07pm.

The Alamo was the one percent that stood against the rabble led by Santa Anna.
We ae the one percent standing against the rabble led by Santobama.

 

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

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Hey WaPo!

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:07pm.

Just got two words for ya....Bull SH*T!

Speaking as a Texan, there AIN'T no comparison!

-Jon

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Got that right, Brother Jon Texan!

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:13pm.

The idea is ludicrous that defies any definition of "hallucination" I can find.

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Ditto here.

Submitted by Martin2717 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 4:42pm.

Ditto here.

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I agree Jon. I would want to

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:50am.

I agree Jon. I would want to see them face down real people trying to kill them.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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That's what I was thinking rickbren...

Submitted by FearMonger on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:09pm.

then I thought... The Brave Men who made that stand in The Alamo were most definitely part of The 1%.

FearMonger Out.
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Those entitlement-poisoned, stinking brat OWSers at the Alamo?

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:13pm.

That has to be the most ridiculous comparison I have ever read! The OWSers are NOTHING like the Texans who fought at the Alamo.

First, the Texans at the Alamo were all self-sufficient, patriotic and loyal to their cause and their country. They had a purpose in defending their rights and believed in free markets, freedom and self-reliance. The OWSers are a mishmash of trust fund brats and 60s hack has-beens demanding that everyone else be responsible for them, and the entitlement attitude inherent in their demands that student loans be immediately be forgiven and that jobs be given to them is the consummate antithesis of the ideals of the Alamo protectors. Not even by a hallucinatory, liberal orgasmic fantasy are the OWSers close. Not by a picometer.

The writers, who I will collectively call Carbuncle, are either highly intoxicated or just plain stupid--or more likely both.

The Alamo? They wish.............

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The real problems with these

Submitted by ThePickle on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:16pm.

The real problems with these flea and disease infected encampments is the fact that wishy washy local politicians restrained the police from enforcing existing laws and have as such emboldened the Occutwits into engaging further acts of defiance and out right lawless behavior.

If these illegal gatherings had been held to the same standards as any other gathering i.e. proper permits, liability insurance and all the legal requirements routinely imposed on gatherings of this nature, a lot of these confrontations might have been able to be nipped in the bud.

Unfortunately to many local politicians agreed in theory with the supposed message of these idiots and as such failed in their legal duty to treat them as they would any large group of protesters. As such now the law abiding taxpaying citizens are footing the huge bill, to the tune of MILLIONS, that these illegal gatherings have run up because the city county and even state elected officials failed to do their simple duty and uphold the laws that they took an oath to protect and defend.

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I'm fix'n to say these city slickers don't know much about Texan

Submitted by vrwc13 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:24pm.

I'm fix'n to say these city slickers don't know much about Texans or their history anymore that they know about U.S. history and the Constitution...

v

The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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Mor'n likely yer right about

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:29pm.

Mor'n likely yer right about them there city slickers, V.......................now where can ah git me one of them there huntin' licenses??

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Good evening killa

Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:07pm.

Beau frere, we're talking about America and you're giving us quotes of John Kechup from the People's Republic of Masshallucination

 

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I know, Coco............but I

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:16pm.

I know, Coco............but I was drinking my morning coffee and I had this vision flash across my formally drug-addled peabrain of John F**king Kerry, dressed up in buckskin, boots, and a coon-skin hat sitting on his perfectly coiffed hair above his 'why the long face'............riding up to the Alamo on Mr. Ed for a drive-by, so that he could ride on back to DC and claim that he served there!!! Plus, I like the accent - I had an uncle/aunt/cousin that were from Waco, and my ex-wife was from Houston.

You know, I've taken a 'few' doses of LSD in my day (back when it was the 'real deal').........so maybe that was one of those 'acid flashbacks' that I always heard about - but never experienced!!!

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killa

Submitted by cocodrie on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:25pm.

Be careful using Jonnycat's middle name, it can get you in trouble here.

 

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You folks have made some pretty convincing

Submitted by nixon on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 1:57pm.

Arguments, but I'm waiting for Hank Clay's rebuttal before I make up my mind about this topic. ;-)

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Hell, that guy was on another

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:02pm.

Hell, that guy was on another thread last night until forever - getting his sorry okole kicked every which way but loose - I went to bed at around 11 PM Hawaii time, and I think he was still hacking away at his keyboard, trying to make some sense...............

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So........

Submitted by nixon on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:19pm.

Are you delicately hinting that in a contest between 1000 monkeys with 1000 keyboards........
And H K with his keyboard.... That the monkeys will produce a more cogent post ?

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Well, the guy definitly had

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:30pm.

Well, the guy definitly had his hands full..........I never paid much attention to him before last night - but he's definitly one of those guys who's all over the map, but not in the right place. But he seems to have more manners than some of the dolts that we have seen lately.

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What's to think about?

Submitted by jon_torlin on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:14pm.

Aside from the libs in Austin and in various pockets across the state, Texans are a tough bunch and you don't want to piss them off.  This is just about as ridiculous as I've ever heard, and as you can see from some of the reactions including my own on here, you'd have to agree.  Unless you're a lib from Austin. ;-)

I don't know how often it gets said(Doc Sam, let me know if I'm off base on this one), but I've heard it said by many in Texas that Texas didn't join the United States, the US joined Texas, which was one of the reasons the Texas Flag flew above the US Flag at the Capitol.  At least that's the way it oughta be! ;-)

-Jon

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Aside from the libs in Austin

Submitted by vrwc13 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:18pm.


Aside from the libs in Austin and in various pockets across the state (see here)

The sea of red in Texas other than Austin (college town), Houston, Dallas, San Antonio (all large cities with major entitlement populations like many other blue major cities on the map) and lands populated by illegal immigrants (can I say that?).

v

The burden of life is from ourselves, its lightness from the grace of Christ and the love of God. - William Bernard Ullanthorne

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I know that Billy F. Gibbons

Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:33pm.

I know that Billy F. Gibbons is a Texan............and Sam 'Lightnin' Hopkins was from Texas..........as well as Stevie Ray Vaughen, along with a whole sh*tload of other rockin', bluesy, and country singers and musicians..................and that's good enough for me!! Isn't Bo Diddley (or as they might say down in Loo-ee-anna: Beaux Diddley) a Texan also??? I've got one of his CD's where he says/sings that he's from 'South America'...........................meaning 'South Texas'!!!

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You're on target, Jon.

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 6:01pm.

Texas evolved from almost a pure Democrat state (1874 to 1979, or Richard Coke to Dolph Briscoe (governors)) until John Clement was elected Governor in 1978 and took office in 1979. The state legislature was OVERWHELMINGLY Democrat until just the past decade when control finally passed into Republican hands for the first time ever.

As I recall, Texas joined the United States more in line with a treaty. The Joint Resolution for Annexing Texas into the United States very clearly stated that Texas could be dissolved into five total states (four additional states in addition to Texas itself). There is no formal provision in the annexation that would allow Texas to simply secede, but it could subdivide based solely on the legislation passed at the time, provided that the Article IV, section 3 regarding splitting of existing states was observed. Texas has contended that since its annexation was essentially a treaty, it retained the right, granted by congressional authority in the passage of the annexation legislation itself, to subdivide if its voters so desired. In essence, Congress already relented on the issue of subdivision of an existing state, as the constitutional provisions regarding splitting a state were written and existing prior to the annexation of Texas and the joint resolution provided permission to do so. Would make interesting litigation and history if one part of Texas decided it was time to go it alone. Personally, those of us who do not live in the Rio Grande valley would gladly give them permission to saw off that portion of the state and let it drift into the Gulf of Mexico so we would have a better border protection than we do now.

My father always said he believed Texas was not like the United States. His family came here because it was open country, with vast opportunities for the hardworking immigrants (of every conceivable nationality) who settled here in great numbers. My wife's family came here for similar reasons, that being the opportunities and the desire to escape the social limitations that existed as horrible vestiges of the Spanish colonial system which left both of our families with few opportunities and rights. You would've had to experience this to understand it, but much of the Latin American world (particularly South America) lived under a very rigid caste system for centuries and these social barriers stood even after Bolivar and other liberators kicked the Spanish out of their domains. Brazil was not quite as bad from what I am told, but still nothing like the US at the time.

The OWSers have either compared themselves or been compared to Rosa Parks (where is Al Dolt-on's rage on that one?!) and now to the Alamo fighters. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Spoiled trust fund brats, angry unhospitalized psychotics and 60s has-been, blissed-out throwaways are the OWS protesters. They can fantasize all they want, but the only thing they sacrificed was soap, water and deodorant.

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In all honesty, I don't think the author was equating OWS . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 2:18pm.

. . . with the Alamo. The words "created a mood of Alamo-like defiance" seems to reflect metaphorically how the OWSers saw their own situation, and that comes as no surprise.  

I am no fan of OWS and particularly the MSM hype of it, but in this instance, I  just don't see any there there. 

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I agree with Galvanic...

Submitted by Rover on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 4:39pm.

I was thinking the same thing.

Ken, thanks for the investigation and report, but I think you're reading too much into this. The reporters JUST saying the demonstrators became defiant in an Alamo-like way doesn't nearly rise to the level of equating them to the Alamo defenders in any meaningful characteristic.

And insofar as the neutral tone of the article goes, what did we want, a condemnation of the OWS? The reporters DID say "... after a group of demonstrators defied repeated orders by the U.S. Park Police ... ." That's not entirely neutral in my opinion.

I'd have been DELIGHTED to get a neutral tone from the media in its coverage of the Tea Party rallies.

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Still and all,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 12/05/2011 - 9:48pm.

using the phrase " -- created a mood of Alamo-like defiance --", co-opts what was a feeling of determination by fighters, and applies it to what is a determination of feelings, by takers.

A misapplication, indeed.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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The Alamo?? Really?

Submitted by anorm on Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:14am.

Oh. Hell. No.

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The Alamo?? Really?

Submitted by anorm on Tue, 12/06/2011 - 3:14am.

As a 5th generation Texan I say...Oh. Hell. No!

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