Time's Tharoor: 'Occupy Wall Street' Movement 'Believes in Politics,' Unlike Tea Party
Four days after romanticizing how the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement "star[ed] down the NYPD," Time magazine's Ishaan Tharoor set out on the magazine's Global Spin blog to explain "Why You Shouldn't Compare Occupy Wall Street to the Tea Party."
Tharoor essentially argued that the "occupiers" were a global youth movement, that it was populated by the "have nots," and that, unlike the Tea Party, "Occupy Wall Street still believes in politics and government."
Yeah, that's clearly why they're squatting in a private park and refusing to cooperate when the authorities want to clean the grounds.
Tharoor repeats the liberal media meme that "much of the Tea Party's programmatic ire seems directed at the very idea of government," failing to discern that Tea Partiers argue for limited, constitutional government, not for anarchy.
Tharoor laughably added:
The answer, for many of the protesters I've spoken with, is never the wholesale dismantling or whittling away of the capabilities of political institutions (except, perhaps, the Fed), but a subtler disentangling of Wall Street from Washington. Government writ large is not the problem, just the current sort of government.
But the official "call to action" by Occupy Wall Street is a list of leftist actions outside the political system that disregard private property rights and the rule of law (emphasis mine):
1. We call for protests to remain active in the cities. Those already there, to grow, to organize, to raise consciousnesses, for those cities where there are no protests, for protests to organize and disrupt the system.
2. We call for workers to not only strike, but seize their workplaces collectively, and to organize them democratically. We call for students and teachers to act together, to teach democracy, not merely the teachers to the students, but the students to the teachers. To seize the classrooms and free minds together.
3. We call for the unemployed to volunteer, to learn, to teach, to use what skills they have to support themselves as part of the revolting people as a community.
4. We call for the organization of people's assemblies in every city, every public square, every township.
5. We call for the seizure and use of abandoned buildings, of abandoned land, of every property seized and abandoned by speculators, for the people, for every group that will organize them.
"[A]t the end of the day, Occupy Wall Street, like most idealistic social movements, wants real political solutions," Tharoor insisted in his closing paragraph. "They want to fix government, not escape from it."
Holding out for pie-in-the-sky demands, squatting on private property, and calling "general assemblies" to cobble some order out of the inchoate masses is far from a practical approach to "real political solutions" and more like the political escapism that Tharoor protests the OWS is not.
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what is so hard to understand about ststes rights?
Submitted by dmacleo on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:02pm.
we want to give the power back to the states.
they say states can't afford that but base that on the fact so much money leaves the states to go to fed that then comes back as a grant or loan.
stop the middleman functionality of the federal gov.
reverse the money
Submitted by OuttaMyWay on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:25pm.
imagine if you paid federal to local taxes (or state, if you do not pay a local tax) and local to federal.
i bet just campaigning on that would open peoples eyes to how much we pay locally vs nationally.
Like a campaign to say if you make $50,000 you should pay $1500 (3%) to federal government, after all they collect money from all over the nation. and $12,000 to local government., because right now you are paying just the opposite.
I agree.
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:36pm.
The fed should not be collecting taxes and redistributing them to the states. All of us should pay a flat federal tax for federal services such as our military, border protection, etc. Let the states tax us for roads, schools and all the things that affect us locally. Kalifornia, New York, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and Massachusetts would be bankrupt immediately.
good use of quotes in title
Submitted by OuttaMyWay on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:21pm.
define your terms, politics = being liberal.
OWS doesn't believe in politics.
Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:40pm.
Over half of those "trustafarians" espouse violence against our government as a form of revolution. I wonder just how many of those dirtballs would be brave enough to pick up a rifle and defend our country in time of need.
Battered wife syndrome
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 1:54pm.
Guys like Tharoor will continue to love Big Government despite what it does to us because they choose to believe that, deep down inside, Big Government will someday straighten itself out and everyone will live happily ever after.
a global youth movement, that
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 2:47pm.
a global youth movement, that it was populated by the "have nots,"
No. It's populated by the ARE NUTS.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
economic liberty vs economic justice
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 2:59pm.
what's so hard to understand?
That depends, kata
Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 3:02pm.
On who is doing the understanding.
Easy for a conservative, not so much so for a liberal.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
oh I dunno
Submitted by kata on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 6:25pm.
Some liberals get it.
a global youth movement, that
Submitted by rwnewsnut on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 3:03pm.
a global youth movement, that it was populated by the "have nots,"
Is that why they are having things such as MacBook Pros stolen as they are sleeping. Yes - pricey cameras, phones and laptops. Have nots - right.
They are "have nots"...
Submitted by CobraMan on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 3:07pm.
They really are "have nots," they have not someone elses money.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Gimme that!
Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 10/18/2011 - 4:54pm.
No, it's more accurate to describe them as the childish kind of attitude of a petulant kid who takes something without permission from a sibling just because he/she wants it and says "Gimme that!" as he/she grabs it out of their hands. So they are the "gimme-thats." The have-nots are the more innocent ones who make do with what they have.
-Jon
Ishaan Tharoor is a moron, and Time magazine isn't even fit...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Wed, 10/19/2011 - 4:15am.
...to use as toilet paper. Tharoor's premise is completely and totally wrong. First of all, if these spoiled trust fund brats believed in politics, they wouldn't be protesting and demonstrating. Obviously, they think our political system can't get them what they want, hence the Occupy idiocy. And second, those guys in the Guy Fawkes masks? ANARCHISTS! As in, they don't believe in government at all.
The flip side of the falsehood is Tharoor's claim the Tea Party: 1. Doesn't believe in politics. The 2010 election says otherwise. And 2. Doesn't believe in government. We don't have the bizarre and disturbing absolute unconditional faith that government is the infallible and unquestionable answer to every single problem, but we do see it as a necessary evil that should be limited, accountable, and responsible. In his far left weirdo mind, that's blasphemy against the god of government.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.