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WaPo Double Standard on Modesty: Fashionable for Muslims, Frumpy and Repressive for Christians

By Ken Shepherd | August 10, 2011 | 18:40

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Five years ago Post fashion writer Robin Givhan scoffed at the notion of modest swimwear in a July 14, 2006 column "Ultimate Coverup."

Fast forward to today and the Post's Alison Lake gave Style section readers a gushy look at how "Muslim women shop for ways to bare little."

"Web sites offer modest fashions suitable for summer and pool wear," noted the subheader to Lake's story.

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"U.S. Muslims number about 2.4 million (estimates vary), with about 250,000 in the Washington area, but no major fashion retail chain markets directly to Muslim women," Lake lamented, adding "many struggle to shop locally" and must turn to Internet outlets.

What's more, "in major retail stores, modesty is an afterthought," Lake noted, citing Muslim fashion designer Zeena Altalib of PrimoModa.com.

Lake cited another Muslim designer, Kelly Alsharif who argued that "If a chain store were to carry clothing that appealed to these groups [Muslims and conservative Christians and Jews concerned with modesty], they would have a very loyal customer base."

Overall, the tone of Lake's piece was clear: Muslims can be fashionable while being modest and faithful to religious tradition, but it's a shame that mainstream retail shops don't carry clothing that caters to them.

By contrast, the 2006 column by then-Post fashion critic Robin Givhan derided the notion of women choosing modest swimwear, singling out the Wholesome Wear line:

The makers of WholesomeWear swimsuits would like women to cover up their tummies. And their backs. And their arms. And half their legs. The Oregon company, based outside Portland, sells a collection of swimwear online that consists of a wet suit topped by a dress. The spandex underpinning is not sufficient on its own because bystanders would still be able to make out the curves of the woman's body. The nylon overdress takes care of any audacious display of an hourglass shape.

Givhan noted that Wholesome Wear "is not aimed at practitioners of any religion" but went on to scoff the Christian sensibilities that inform the company's founders (emphasis mine):

"There are still people in this world who prefer modesty," says Joan Ferguson, who handles sales for the company. "So my son, his wife and daughter designed the product."

[...]

WholesomeWear is going into its fifth year and, according to Ferguson, has sold thousands of swimsuits in three styles: culotte, skirted and "slimming," which looks like a loose-fitting housedress. There is an option with the slimming suit to extend the sleeves below the elbows and to lower the hem so it ends just above the ankles. A woman would be swimming in something akin to a choir robe. "These are designed to highlight the face and not the body," Ferguson says. That may be true, but a woman is more than just a disembodied head. Why be fearful of the rest of her?

The company may not be preaching to a specific denomination, but it is nonetheless preaching. Ferguson describes her family as "Christian people who love the Lord." And the swimsuits are "a ministry."

[...]

It's understandable that some men and women may feel frustrated and scandalized in a culture that accommodates micro-miniskirts, cropped halter tops and visible thongs. They want someone to stand up and say, "Put some clothes on, darn it!" But surely, in the search for modesty, wouldn't one stumble across something decent and virtuous before getting all the way to a nylon shroud? Wouldn't a demure tankini do? Or a one-piece with a matching skirt?

[...]

Ferguson says her company isn't on a mission to un-liberate women. "Absolutely not. If people want to buy our suits we're thrilled, but they certainly don't have to," Ferguson says. A person has to have strong convictions "to wear our suits," she says. If you have those convictions, "you're not going to care about the liberation or if you get persecuted and made fun of."

WholesomeWear may appeal to certain people of faith, but it also raises many lamentable body issues with which women grapple. Most women dread buying a swimsuit. The occasion is fraught with irrational feelings of inadequacy. Women often joke that they would wear a muumuu to the beach if they could. The truth is there's nothing to stop them from doing just that. But they know the cure for their insecurity is to let go of cultural expectations and their own skewed self-image. The answer is not to hide the body but to cheer for its ability to swim laps or just sedately float -- in a bit of form-fitting, aerodynamic nylon and Lycra. That's not immodesty; that's confidence.

In the past, the woman on the beach wearing a bikini was the aberration, the spectacle. But now, a woman in a bikini is commonplace. She spans all ages. And there is something especially compelling about an older woman wearing a two-piece swimsuit, not necessarily to display her curves but to underscore her strength.

A woman swaddled in WholesomeWear's knee-length nylon would stand out. Not just because she's covered up but because she's done it in such an unattractive way. Perhaps she is modest or religious or simply someone who really needs to get over the fact she doesn't have legs like Naomi Campbell. But in looking at all that camouflaging fabric, at the layers aimed at obscuring the physique, one wonders how a swimsuit "ministry" can save anyone's soul when such ungainly suits have so little appreciation for beauty.

Image of woman modeling "modern modest swim suit" via PrimoModa.com.

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The media have no problem

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 6:48pm.

The media have no problem chastising Christians for their standards of modesty while praising Muslims for much stricter restrictions enforced by law and beatings.

Christiane Amanpour proved it in spades when she likened Christian women wearing "skirts of a certain length" with "totalitarian regimes." At the same time, she allowed a Muslim woman to describe her wearing the hijab as a sign that she refused to be disrespected.
There is no shortage of hypocrisy and double standards in the media, but there is an absolute absence of embarrassment for their actions.

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Va va BOOM, baby!

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 6:51pm.

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Explosives exposed in bare midriff expose' ---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 7:20pm.

'Dynamite chic', as it were.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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muslim attire

Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 7:22pm.

In any muslim country she would be beaten, raped and then shot or beheaded for wearing such a revealing outfit.

 

Jesus Loves You so much He died for you

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Burkakini

Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 7:35pm.

Too full of germs to be used in public.

Build your own damn pool!

You Didn't Build That.

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upcountry,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 7:39pm.

indeed.

If the woman can afford to 'vacation' in Dubai, I'm sure she could afford her own swimming pool.

Pot-stirrer, no doubt.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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France could only be so lucky

Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 11:52pm.

to have her move out, and take many of her countrymen, and women, with her.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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"There is something

Submitted by ant on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 8:58pm.

"There is something compelling about an older woman wearing a two-piece swimsuit, not necessarily to display her curves but to underscore her strength."
Good grief! Is there anything a libtard won't politicize? Sometimes a swimsuit is just a swimsuit. It is this style of writing, BTW, that had made me sick of reading "journalistic essay"-type prose before I was 22 years old. It is SOOO annoying.

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This is so hypocritical. But

Submitted by tcm14 on Wed, 08/10/2011 - 9:02pm.

This is so hypocritical. But then again, why would the media say anything critical of their muslim allies?

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My #2 son just came back from

Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:01am.

My #2 son just came back from a year in the Persian gulf, where he was running a Coast Guard cutter. He also flew around the area a few times. He said that the Mooooooooooooooooslem women get on the plane in their prescribed attire, but if they are going to a non-Mooooooooooooslem place, it doesn't take them very long to get out of their prescribed clothes and into the fashionable western garb, which, as you well know, is much more revealing and up-to-date. A client of mine, who was a chemical engineer in the oil countries, also has told me the same things. And the Mooooooooooooooslem men don't seem to have any problems partying and drinking and carrying on.......and all of that other evil infidel stuff........when they are away from their stringent environments.

Ahhhhhhhhh, but we can't say anything derogitory about it, can we??? It would be considered 'intolerant', or 'racist', or 'bigoted'!!

Oh yeah, one more thing........virtually ALL of the hookers and prostitutes and bargirls in Bali are Mooooooooooooooooooslems from Java and other places, since Bali is mainly Hindu, and apparantly the Hindo women don't engage in that type of activity.

Ahhhhhh....the religion of Peace and Purity................

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I like women of all faiths

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:05am.

............to have the right to wear a bikini.

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Or not---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:08am.

;o)

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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The way they keep these women

Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:18am.

The way they keep these women covered up, you can probably figure out why the men go abroad - or to Dubai - to get a little more of a viewplane of women. And the ones who can't afford it??? Well.........there are some nice looking goats in the countryside........

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I don't Killa

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:45am.

I think there are some beautiful Arab women out there

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I'm sure there are,

Submitted by killa37 on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:47am.

I'm sure there are, Shawn.........after all, they ARE women!!! I was commenting on the fact that they are HARD TO SEE!!!

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It's true Killa

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:50am.

That is why there is no discrimination on my part when I say they have a right to wear bikinis :-)

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You got a point MD

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:42am.

Nancy Pelosi should be exempt :-)

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You go skeez

Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:18am.

There ain't no women here to see your constant skeezy posts so have at it as usual.

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Give it a rest dude

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 12:40am.

It's getting tired.

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Whatever sniffles.

Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 1:23am.

Wipe your nose. And stop crying.

You knock off the constant skeez. I will give it a rest. Skeezboy.

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I was on topic

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 1:31am.

I'm not crying. Why are you so angry all the time? Hey but everyone is whining and crying but you are all sophisticated. I'm sure Mr Shephard and other contributors love it when you turn the topic to posters love cop killers

Sorry I did not jump when you asked. I must have been out to lunch. I iz sorry.

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Have at it troll.

Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 6:42am.

Once again, we have a 30-something married man old enough to have a teenage daughter of his own making yet another skeezy post he would never ever dare utter in mixed company with his real name attached. And once again, after getting called out on it, his first instinct is to go into full on whine mode. And when that fails, his second instinct is to threaten, yes threaten the poster the tells him to knock it off with the constant sleeze mode. Although we have not reached this stage yet, his third reaction is to slide right into last word troll mode with as many threats, insults, and sarcastic reminders of old posts as he can muster.

So once again shawn, you have at the constant perve mode because it ain't you at all is it? It is the people that are disgusted with your constant perve talk. It is them so they need to be threatened with you alerting the admins to get them to shut the hell up.

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Wow Mr wordy double standard poo poo

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 9:27am.

Nice edit. It was so nice and short the first time. It must have really kept you up for you to change it in the middle of the night

Okay Mr double standard we have a around 50ish person that accuses men of being wordy but according to your edited long winded reply you don't keep your posts short either. At least I don't spite and pretend not to read it out of spite

Second you accuse me of leeching off NBs bandwidth because I create my own forum, but you have no problem derailing any topic you want with your own personal vendettas because you can't help being petty and twisting people's words.

Seriously you need to buy an ab roller to take off that weight you were whining about it, it might make you feel better. Ooops did I just accuse you of whining? Wiping your nose? Pooping your diaper? Frelling you? Up yours? pack sand?

These rules don't apply to the Hypocojerine. Yes I am sure Queenmum a older conservative lady loved it when you called her a shriveled up old prune too. That's not sleazy.

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~Hit the third stage right on cue, I see

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 2:03pm.

.

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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I actually like The Vet

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:18pm.

Nothing would make me happier to end this silly feud. I ignored it when he told me I troll facebook for little girls and I did not even flame back when he told me I could not even post in my own forum

I guess this time, I lost my cool. The vet and I have been buddies for over 3 years. I do not believe this is all his doing. I believe somebody is talking to him behind the scenes turning him against me

This person I believe is emotionally unstable and has extremely thin skin and thinks they are attacked or threatened constantly and have victim mentality. It's unfortunate that this person has such influence on a good guy like the vet

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~You could try asking him

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:31pm.

if any of that is true.
Or you could continue to gratify your petty, spiteful soul with delusions. Your choice.

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No actually

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:39pm.

.........I have seen ample evidence of the personal spiteful things this person has said because this person felt like they were attacked off the pages of NB

Hopefully this person gets help because living with all that pent up anger is not good for anyone.

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~Sure, you hit a bull's-eye there

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:44pm.

You should stick to your day job taunting people you 'like' about their weight and posting style.

Obama's WTF 2012 campaign slogan: "A dog in every pot"
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Thank you for the advice

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:49pm.

Surprised to see you here. I though you were on another one of your self imposed hiatus's because you didn't agree with something a mod said.

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~Ping, ping, ping, ping

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:58pm.

Shawn pots away at the target with his pea-shooter and shoots nothing but his foot.

LOL

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Yes and you have a huge arsenal because

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 8:49pm.

...........everyone knows you never complained or left NB without loudly letting others know you did not appreciate a mods request or they were too slow to respond to one of your requests.

Yes I'm sure that's never happened before.

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Whatever petty little troll.

Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 1:22am.

Me here prediction: ...his third reaction is to slide right into last word troll mode with as many threats, insults, and sarcastic reminders of old posts...

Whatever you petty vindictive little man. You are the only troll here that goes into full on dredge mode every single time someone notes one of your posts is not quite right. The only troll that does this.

...sarcastic reminders of old posts... Why is it others behavior never bothers you until you get some pushback?

...sarcastic reminders of old posts...  Why is it your only criticism of others is AFTER they note some nasty little post you made?

...sarcastic reminders of old posts... Why is it you never ever knock around real trolls yet only seem to go after people you claim to like?

Why is it you get trolled on by various trolls at NewsBusters such as Clarity, Willis_Loon_Johnson, and tenebrous then leave the heavy lifting of knocking them around to others. You even go out of your way to interfere when others takes care of trolls you should have handled yourself.

How many times do I have to say have at it? Have at it little troll that seems to have issues with the posts of others but remains alarmingly quiet until his nastiness is noted. Again have at it.

Oh and shut up Stupid. You can remember what I said 4 years ago about my weight in passing to someone about some long forgotten topic. But you are too stupid to know the definition of prune.

prune - 2. Slang An ill-tempered, stupid, or incompetent person.
 

Yes stupid spiteful little man. Calling someone an ill-tempered, stupid, or incompetent person now counts as sleaze. Oh wait.... Only on your planet does it count.

And lay off the mind reading you stupid spiteful little man. You can't gauge when someone is angry by looking at some words on a page. And you can't predict when someone is turning someone else against you.

The only reason I no longer like you is YOU. Your stupid error ridden posts. Your constant derision of women. And your inability to learn and further yourself, id est my getting into the same arguments with you over and over and over. That is what turned me not some magical mystical fairy whispering in my ear.

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Oky doky dude

Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 1:37am.

Pack sand. Up yours, frell you :-).

Good night.

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...sarcastic reminders of old posts...

Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 1:44am.

And you imagine your are hurting me how by quoting my old posts? Old posts where I am taking care of some troll you took a pass on, instead waiting, to borrow a phrase, to take shots with your little pea-shooter at people you claim to like?

Oh dear, please little vindictive man, please don't quote me anymore. I promise I will stop pointing out your nastiness here. Please. My quotes hurt. My quotes hurt bad.

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Dude be reasonable

Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 2:35am.

No sarcasm on my part. For the first time in a while let's have a discussion okay? I am not asking for us to be good buddies, I am asking you to hear me out. Okay this might be a little long.

You and I were good buddies for three years straight. I have not changed except for the fact I don't initiate conversations legalizing pot anymore. You have disagreed with me many times in the past and you have bested me on more than one occasion and I did not mind losing to you.

However when you started all of a sudden calling me an idiot and comparing me to Satchmo because of an argument I was having with Mr Shy I just had enough. Sorry I am not your lap dog

I defend smut, but I am always respectful about it. I have never posted nudity on NB or am vulgar. I don't use much profanity either

I link or bring up prior posts to prove my points. Just like how I have seen you do much homework for your links. You bring up old posts all the time to people. Do you truly not see the double standard?

So I would respectfully ask this. Please let me know when I was especially sleezy. I do not believe me saying I support the right to all women to wear bikinis sleezy. Thank you vet. See I am being civil here. Please do not twist my words like usual. For example if I said I hope the ladies of NB can join me in a game of marbles, you would use the NB link function and change the words to. Here is Pervy 228 troll demanding NB ladies play with his b@lls

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Whatever.

Submitted by The Vet on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 4:50am.

Now I change your words all of a sudden. Wow.

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Well, if no one else is going to stick up for Jer, I will.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:42pm.

He is NOT emotionally unstable.

 

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Dude he is a lawyer

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:45pm.

And he thinks he is the vets uncle and a he is a lib.

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~That "ba-dump-dump"

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:47pm.

sound you all just heard was shawn throwing Jer under the bus in an effort to curry favor with the judge.

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Oh please

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:50pm.

Jer knows I am joking and SOL and I have never once gotten into a flame match.

Nice try though :-)

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~You had your fingers crossed behind your back too, right?

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:53pm.

.

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Yes

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:55pm.

And there was no pinky swear

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~I concur

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 3:45pm.

Do you concur?

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Yes, robustly!

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 4:02pm.

One of my fave flicks, BTW...

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~Only movie I liked the little twerp in

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 4:06pm.

.

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Blood Diamond was pretty good

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 4:09pm.

Thats about it, though

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~Still haven't seen it, the premise didn't appeal to me

Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 5:56pm.

And honestly, my hubby is the movie buff in the family.

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No wonder Moslem men blow

Submitted by jdhawk on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 1:01am.

No wonder Moslem men blow things up all the time. First they force their women to wear the most rediculous of coverings making them look like sock puppets. Then, whenever they visit anywhere else on the planet, they go straight to porn, stip clubs, and prostitutes.

An example, is that when tracing the whereabouts of the 19 terrorists before they caused 9/11, their credit card statements had strip joint receipts on them. Moslems are apostate when they can get away with it. It is under the boot of their totalitarian regimes that they are forced to conform or face tickets, arrest, incarceration and even death.

Of course, our "watch dog" media seems to miss the sad irony of this - as usual.

Meanwhile, like homosexuals, Moslems are some of liberals' protected classes of people.

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Very true

Submitted by shawn. on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 9:23am.

Very true

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I found it interesting that

Submitted by ant on Thu, 08/11/2011 - 2:15pm.

I found it interesting that after 9/11, the strib-club and alcohol meme was in effect in the press. Interesting that the media would have us believe these terrorist plants go to strip clubs and bars as part of their "cover", a way to "fit in" with our decadent Western culture. Nice little attempt to jab American society with a stick, pathetic and transparent as it was. I know many Americans who don't smoke, drink, or ogle nude women and I have no suspicion they are terrorist sleeper-cells. This lust was already present in these muslim men, no blaming America for that. It really shows how pathetic and schizophrenic the lefttwit media is, on the one hand, we are a rigidly puritan society held hostage by extremist Christians, BUT, muslims must appear to be decadent and lustful to fit in. Yeah, makes alot of sense.

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Okay vet

Submitted by shawn. on Fri, 08/12/2011 - 5:51pm.

Any examples of my post you consider insulting to women yet?

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